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Postby Countesia » Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:38 am

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Sao Nova Europa wrote:Got an idea. What if we made a HoI4 mod out of this setting?

I would love to see that.


I've played both Europa Universalis and Crusader Kings.

I have never been able to figure out how TF to play either of them and never touched them again :( I've seen that Hearts of Iron is a very similar game in terms of how its played since they're all Paradox games.
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Postby Remnants of Exilvania » Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:40 am

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Arvenia wrote:I would love to see that.


I've played both Europa Universalis and Crusader Kings.

I have never been able to figure out how TF to play it. :( I've seen that Hearts of Iron is a very similar game in terms of how its played.

Not really. A lot of the old Paradox fans are actually pretty mad about how simplistic Hearts of Iron 4 is compared to previous titles.

It has become less so over time but eh...
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I may be a bit delayed on my first post got some bad family news spring up last night so imma take some time to settle my head
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Postby Remnants of Exilvania » Wed Apr 06, 2022 7:52 am

Draos wrote:I may be a bit delayed on my first post got some bad family news spring up last night so imma take some time to settle my head

No worries, things like that happen and I hope you take the appropriate time for yourself before forcing yourself through any posts.
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Postby Rygondria » Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:23 am

Any advice on describing a planned economy?

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Postby Tracian Empire » Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:26 am

Rygondria wrote:Any advice on describing a planned economy?

Even a planned economy has its focuses, although those focuses might not be necessarily the best ones, but the ones the party finds important (like Stalin's obsession with heavy industry).

Other than that I imagine that the GDR would have at least taken some steps towards an attempted autarky. It's not completely isolated, it would still have the socialist Eastern European nations and Britain to trade with, but it's likely that France would have attempted to negotiate an economic cordon sannitaire around it.

Plus there is also the question of how planned it is. Are you going full Five Year Plan mode?
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Postby Rygondria » Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:35 am

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Rygondria wrote:Any advice on describing a planned economy?

Even a planned economy has its focuses, although those focuses might not be necessarily the best ones, but the ones the party finds important (like Stalin's obsession with heavy industry).

Other than that I imagine that the GDR would have at least taken some steps towards an attempted autarky. It's not completely isolated, it would still have the socialist Eastern European nations and Britain to trade with, but it's likely that France would have attempted to negotiate an economic cordon sannitaire around it.

Plus there is also the question of how planned it is. Are you going full Five Year Plan mode?

Honestly seeing as Germany was already rather heavily industrialized even after the war I Don’t think Thällman would go all in with a Stalinist style plan, oh there would be aspects of it sure, but it would probably be alot easier…if not still probably disruptive along with the Partial Autarky measures

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Postby Hanovereich » Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:36 am

Hmm, is the UK available?

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Postby Tracian Empire » Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:38 am

Hanovereich wrote:Hmm, is the UK available?

With the caveat that it would have to be socialist or at the very least socialist leaning, so Britain is available, but the United Kingdom not really.

Alternatively if you wish to specifically play a British loyal regime, you could play a British regime in exile, maybe in Canada, Kaiserreich style. There was a reservation for such a concept that expired earlier today.
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Postby Hanovereich » Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:40 am

Socialist UK? I'm for it.

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Postby Tracian Empire » Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:43 am

Hanovereich wrote:Socialist UK? I'm for it.

Nice
Then please make a reservation using the official form
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Postby Hanovereich » Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:46 am

Reservation

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Postby Tracian Empire » Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:55 am

Hanovereich wrote:
Reservation

Nation Name: People's Republic of Britain
Territory: Former British Empire, except for Canada
Tech Tree: British
#JDMZVUM1QC (Do not delete this, it is used to keep track of the apps)

*Note: Reservations will last for 48 hours. The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting and removing reservations.

Colonies for Britain are a complicated matter. Partially because of the inherent clash between having colonies and socialism, and partially because a nation that just went through a revolution would find it difficult to take back control of lost colonies.

You could have some colonies, with the notion that Britain would have either exported its revolution there or there would have been local revolutions that later pledged their loyalty to Britain, but you would be unable to have the entire former British Empire.
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Postby Intermountain States » Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:55 am

Time to fund Irish rebels. Come out ye black and tans indeed.
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Postby Arvenia » Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:56 am

Hanovereich wrote:
Reservation

Nation Name: People's Republic of Britain
Territory: Former British Empire, except for Canada
Tech Tree: British
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*Note: Reservations will last for 48 hours. The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting and removing reservations.

Maybe you could be a British version of the USSR.
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Postby Hanovereich » Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:59 am

Tracian Empire wrote:
Hanovereich wrote:
Reservation

Nation Name: People's Republic of Britain
Territory: Former British Empire, except for Canada
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*Note: Reservations will last for 48 hours. The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting and removing reservations.

Colonies for Britain are a complicated matter. Partially because of the inherent clash between having colonies and socialism, and partially because a nation that just went through a revolution would find it difficult to take back control of lost colonies.

You could have some colonies, with the notion that Britain would have either exported its revolution there or there would have been local revolutions that later pledged their loyalty to Britain, but you would be unable to have the entire former British Empire.


Then could I have a few satellite states, sort of like the Warsaw Pact?

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Postby Tracian Empire » Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:01 am

Hanovereich wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:Colonies for Britain are a complicated matter. Partially because of the inherent clash between having colonies and socialism, and partially because a nation that just went through a revolution would find it difficult to take back control of lost colonies.

You could have some colonies, with the notion that Britain would have either exported its revolution there or there would have been local revolutions that later pledged their loyalty to Britain, but you would be unable to have the entire former British Empire.


Then could I have a few satellite states, sort of like the Warsaw Pact?

The exact form in which they're organized would be your choice (though clearly they couldn't be officially colonies), but yeah.
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Postby Rygondria » Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:06 am

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Postby Draos » Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:59 am

Hanovereich wrote:
Reservation

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Postby Countesia » Wed Apr 06, 2022 11:03 am

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Postby Draos » Wed Apr 06, 2022 11:07 am

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Postby New Neros » Wed Apr 06, 2022 11:16 am

Tracian Empire wrote:
Hanovereich wrote:
Reservation

Nation Name: People's Republic of Britain
Territory: Former British Empire, except for Canada
Tech Tree: British
#JDMZVUM1QC (Do not delete this, it is used to keep track of the apps)

*Note: Reservations will last for 48 hours. The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting and removing reservations.

Colonies for Britain are a complicated matter. Partially because of the inherent clash between having colonies and socialism, and partially because a nation that just went through a revolution would find it difficult to take back control of lost colonies.

You could have some colonies, with the notion that Britain would have either exported its revolution there or there would have been local revolutions that later pledged their loyalty to Britain, but you would be unable to have the entire former British Empire.


I'd say let 'em keep a bunch of islands and stations throughout the globe to help the People's Navy projection power and export the revolution

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Rygondria wrote:Any advice on describing a planned economy?

Even a planned economy has its focuses, although those focuses might not be necessarily the best ones, but the ones the party finds important (like Stalin's obsession with heavy industry).

Other than that I imagine that the GDR would have at least taken some steps towards an attempted autarky. It's not completely isolated, it would still have the socialist Eastern European nations and Britain to trade with, but it's likely that France would have attempted to negotiate an economic cordon sannitaire around it.

Plus there is also the question of how planned it is. Are you going full Five Year Plan mode?


I'm personally having India go through attempted autarky in the past due to international isolation, with the Five Year Plans being split three ways on agriculture, light industry, and heavy industry so we can ensure all sectors of the economy are doing horrendously at once. The government would charge a bureau with collecting information on economic outputs, projected inputs, and set targets from there. Coupled with government price setting, it all sounds like a great way to just fudge numbers until you collapse in the 90s.
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Postby Rygondria » Wed Apr 06, 2022 11:41 am

New Neros wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:Colonies for Britain are a complicated matter. Partially because of the inherent clash between having colonies and socialism, and partially because a nation that just went through a revolution would find it difficult to take back control of lost colonies.

You could have some colonies, with the notion that Britain would have either exported its revolution there or there would have been local revolutions that later pledged their loyalty to Britain, but you would be unable to have the entire former British Empire.


I'd say let 'em keep a bunch of islands and stations throughout the globe to help the People's Navy projection power and export the revolution

Tracian Empire wrote:Even a planned economy has its focuses, although those focuses might not be necessarily the best ones, but the ones the party finds important (like Stalin's obsession with heavy industry).

Other than that I imagine that the GDR would have at least taken some steps towards an attempted autarky. It's not completely isolated, it would still have the socialist Eastern European nations and Britain to trade with, but it's likely that France would have attempted to negotiate an economic cordon sannitaire around it.

Plus there is also the question of how planned it is. Are you going full Five Year Plan mode?


I'm personally having India go through attempted autarky in the past due to international isolation, with the Five Year Plans being split three ways on agriculture, light industry, and heavy industry so we can ensure all sectors of the economy are doing horrendously at once. The government would charge a bureau with collecting information on economic outputs, projected inputs, and set targets from there. Coupled with government price setting, it all sounds like a great way to just fudge numbers until you collapse in the 90s.

I say…truly a bulwark of the revolution in Asia, Thällman will be proud

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Postby Intermountain States » Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:43 pm

Well it looks like southern Germany is free for the the German commies
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