2020: The Grand Game (CLOSED)

[Hypron]

that's the thing, this China is done with waiting since they got left to dry by Columbia (though that can change with a Columbia player), so it is inclined to believe that if it doesn't press for a return now, the Anglois would never return it all. Going by the 1950s and 1960s perspective. If anything, they'll force Britain to renegotiate the treaty to speed up the return process.

Hmm, let me crunch some numbers....
Anglois would have some things to pull out, but they might could give it back in 1967 if China negotiates for it, with a Labour/Socialist government in London.

[Union Princes]

that would work. That actually works very well with my history timeline

[Hypron]

that would work. That actually works very well with my history timeline

Great. I'll edit it now then.

[Danceria]

Consider me throwing my hat in the ring, should I be Australasia or Brazil?

[Union Princes]

Finished my app. Asia is in for a wild ride

[Hypron]

Looks at Asia
More military resources East of Suez? Check.

[Theyra]

Tempted to join but, not sure of who to go with. Which sounds better, Egypt, India, or Occitaine?

[Huron League]

Nordbight and New Hibernia are mentioned in the alliances, but I can't seem to find anything about them in the alt history overview. Can someone who knows tell me what those two regions/nations are please and thank you?

[Huron League]

Tempted to join but, not sure of who to go with. Which sounds better, Egypt, India, or Occitaine?

Occitaine would be fun.

[Hypron]

Nordbight and New Hibernia are mentioned in the alliances, but I can't seem to find anything about them in the alt history overview. Can someone who knows tell me what those two regions/nations are please and thank you?

From what I can assume with what little info I have, Nordbight seems to be a old Swedish colony, now independent nation in Quebec, Labrador and Ontario, while Hibernia is another name for Ireland, so New Hibernia is an old Irish colony, now independent nation consisting of Nova Scotia and Newfoundland.

[Chedastan]

Interesting, I'm debating if I want to play as one of the Comintern's satellites, and then have a bit of a Hole In the Flag Revolution going on as the internal situation deteriorates for that country for various reasons. Romania or Turkestan are coming to mind, but Poland also intrigues me.

[Chewion]

How long do reservations last?

[Chewion]

Reserve Australasia

[Chewion]

I am thinking of doing an Executive Monarchy Australasia with the monarchy starting with John Hope, 7th Earl of Hopetoun with the idea being that he became the first King of Australia following the first world war after serving as Governor-General. Following WW2, the Monarch's powers are strengthened and set in stone by a new cOnstitution which seeks to balance the role of a strong monarchy, with powers similar to the French presidency, with the powers of a democratically elected parliament. Would something like this be viable?

[Chedastan]

Nationstates Name - Chedastan, sometimes just Ched
Nation Name - The Socialist Republic of Romania
Capital - Bucharest
Type of Government - Communist Satellite State
Ideological Leanings - Hard-Left Nominally, De Facto growingly increasingly Moderate and Centrist judging by the state of public opinion.
Party in Power - Romanian Communist Party
Head of State - General Secretary Ion Iliescu
Image of HoS -

Executive Title - General Secretary of the Romanian Communist Party
Head of Government - Party Leader Emil Constantinescu
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Executive Title - Party Leader of the Romanian Communist Party
Flag -

Total Population - 25.5 Million
Demographics - 88% Romanian
6.50% Hungarian
3.29% Romani
1.29% Other

Military Branches - Ground Forces, Navy, Air Force
Total military size - 250,000 Active, 400,000 Reserves
Breakdown of Ground Sector - 195,000 Active Troops
2000x Tanks
1000x Tanks (Outdated)
2175x AFVs (Including IFVs)
50x MRAPs
55x ARVs
450x SPGs
3750x Artillery (Towed and mortars)
1250x Trucks
180x MRLs
200x Towed Anti-Tank
140x ATGM Launchers
700x AA Systems
50x Radar and Electronic Warfare Systems
Breakdown of Naval Sector - 12,500 Active Sailors
Brown Water Fleet
1x Conventional Submarine
1x Frigate
4x Corvettes
3x Antisubmarine Warfare
4x Missile Corvettes
3x Fast Attack Craft
5x Minelayers
4x Minesweepers
11x Auxiliary Ships

4x Coastal Defense Launchers
5x Martime Helicopters

River Fleet
3x River Monitors
5x Gunboats
12x Patrol Boats
Breakdown of Airforce Sector - 15,500 Air Men
18x Fighters
30x Fighters (outdated)
2x Reconnaissance Planes
100x Attack Aircraft
50x Transport Helicopters
28x Attack Helicopters
24x Trainers
10x UAVs
8x Cargo Transports

Major foreign military suppliers [If Applicable] - The Soviet Union
Extra military information - 27,000 of Active Duty Personnel are split among the Patriotic Guard and Border Patrol. Often seen using reservist equipment.

GDP - Equivalent to 93bil. USD
Currency - The Romanian Leu, however the Soviet Ruble holds much more weight in economic dealings.
Major import/export partners - All trade is rather exclusive to the COMINTERN, which mainly means the Soviet Union and other satellite states, with some exceptions to more neutral powers in the region.

Public Goals - Reinstate full public order and confidence in the Communist Party's Government/ Achieve victory in Kosovo and Bosnia/ Give Hungary a political thrashing/ Negotiated irredentism for Bessarabia and Dobruja
Private Goals - Achieve full independence from the Soviet Union/ Democratize and create a means of balance between the West and East through full reforms in government and drastic change in policy.
Major Domestic Issues - The Hole in Flag Revolution/ Rising debt/ Breadlines/ The Legacy of Ceaușescu
Major Foreign Issues - The Hungarian Snafu/ The Balkans/ The Kremlin over Bessarabia and Dobruja

History -
Much of Romania's history throughout the early half of the 20th Century following WWI had been defined by a series of radical societal swifts that had been able to occur due to a culminating failure of the old kingdom's monarch, King Carol II. With the country plunged into debt due to the frivolous spending by the King's estate and the drawn out aftermath of the Berlin Stock Market Crash of 1930. Leading to rising inflation and grain prices threatening the livelihood of the average working Romanian peasant. Naturally this led to mass dissent internally, especially by the Romanian Communists. Having been both embolden by the presence of the nearby Soviet Union supporting them, and the swift domestic growth of the Agrarian centric Ploughmen's Front made in response to wheat shortages and fears of widespread famine. In the lead up to WWII, a communist-led mass uprising quickly made for the swift removal of Carol II and most of the Royal Family along with his 'bourgeoisie' cronies. With Petru Groza being the country's first Prime Minister not under the bootlick of Carol's regime.

However this stunning domestic victory was quickly washed away by 1941 when both the more internally stabled Hungary and Bulgaria simultaneously invaded Romania, throwing Groza's government into jeopardy as his Agrarian based communist state was put to the test and quickly failing. On top of that, King Michael I attempted to coup what little was holding Groza's government together. With little hope of fending off the invaders by itself, Groza made a plea for the Soviet Union to fully step in and take full control of both of Romania's domestic and foreign affairs, officially becoming a satellite state to them. The tide to the war soon turned in favor of the Comintern and by extension Romania as it continued until 1945, with Groza's new puppet regime also managing to stabilize the country's internal situation for the most part during the rest of the war with much of the weight being held by the Soviets.

As the Cold War began between East and West in the awkward aftermath of the Treaty of Copenhagen, the situation remained somewhat stable throughout the next couple of decades in Romania, as the country was rebuilt under a true Soviet model, much to the displeasure of the original vision of a Agrarian society under the early Romanian communists.

This would change with the introduction of Nicolae Ceaușescu as the country's General Secretary however in 1965, as his rule consolidated a cult of personality surrounding him, as well as a very blatant dependence to the Kremlin as he sought to revitalize and modernize the nation, much to the lack of understanding of the cost and actual benefit that would entail to his countrymen. It wasn't long that Romania acquire so much debt in its efforts that it had to start liquidating assets at such an alarming rate that further hampered its own populace as society degraded to unmanageable levels. Added to the enforced "Second Baby Boom" that only succeeded in creating many young jobless adults with no where to go, it became very clear late into the 80s that Ceaușescu's rule was on burrowed time, and indeed it was on a faithful December day in 89' that him and his wife were captured and then executed in public television in what would later be known as the Bucharest Spring.

Very swiftly and quickly, the Soviet Union once again stepped in to restore order to Romania, however it was clear that revolutionary sentiment to democratize and remove Romania from Soviet influence remained virulent from the 90s and into the present, as the increasing desire to join the West became only more entrenched over time among the growing Opposition in Romania. Even with the watchful eye of the Soviet installed Ion Iliescu tasked with ensuring that Romania remained part of the Comintern under a supposed popular Romanian sentiment, it has only become more untenable as Hungary and the Balkans once again became major points of contention that Romanian population has with the current satellite regime. General Secretary Iliescu could only assume that a major victory in foreign policy will help to legitimatize his regime further among his people, however his ailing health and age leaves the future of Romania into uncertain balance once more, as several figures within are biding for control over a once again weakened state, both within the Party and outside of it. Only the coming future will tell what becomes of Romania, stuck between two worlds.

[The National Dominion of Hungary]

I did reserve Italy btw

Ooops sorry my bad, roster is updated!

Anything I should know about Sweden or Denmark?

Constitutional Monarchies, relatively similar to IRL. Sweden was a decent colonial power in history with much of western Canada being a Swedish colony. Scandinavia may have a Nordic Union thing going on. A minor alliance between the Nordic states similar to the IRL EU.

Big beautiful Anglois app

Amazing work Hypron, loving the app, accepted unless you don't feel like it needs major reworks.

Also, you sure about Hong Kong being part of China? As in sure-sure that you want to switch that territory before the IC and amend the lore?

Finished my app. Asia is in for a wild ride

All right there's a lot there to unpack, gonna get some sleep after my night-shift now and then give it a second thorough read-through.

Consider me throwing my hat in the ring, should I be Australasia or Brazil?

Both are currently reserved at the moment, but the world is big, maybe Indonesia, Japan or the Philippines? A growing Ethiopia extending itself in eastern Africa? One of the post-war South African states maybe?

Tempted to join but, not sure of who to go with. Which sounds better, Egypt, India, or Occitaine?

Either one would be great to have on board, which one would you like to play the most? They all have a lot of opportunities.

Nordbight and New Hibernia are mentioned in the alliances, but I can't seem to find anything about them in the alt history overview. Can someone who knows tell me what those two regions/nations are please and thank you?

From what I can assume with what little info I have, Nordbight seems to be a old Swedish colony, now independent nation in Quebec, Labrador and Ontario, while Hibernia is another name for Ireland, so New Hibernia is an old Irish colony, now independent nation consisting of Nova Scotia and Newfoundland.

Exactly this

I am thinking of doing an Executive Monarchy Australasia with the monarchy starting with John Hope, 7th Earl of Hopetoun with the idea being that he became the first King of Australia following the first world war after serving as Governor-General. Following WW2, the Monarch's powers are strengthened and set in stone by a new cOnstitution which seeks to balance the role of a strong monarchy, with powers similar to the French presidency, with the powers of a democratically elected parliament. Would something like this be viable?

Hmmm seems quite workable, but perhaps as a Grand Duchy or Principality or something along those lines in order to not offend Anglois during the transition by proclaiming a full monarchy?

App snip

Looks great thus far, really solid groundwork! Time to ship some counterrevolutionaries to the gulag welcome my loyal COMINTERN allies.

[Hypron]

Big beautiful Anglois app

Amazing work Hypron, loving the app, accepted unless you don't feel like it needs major reworks.

Also, you sure about Hong Kong being part of China? As in sure-sure that you want to switch that territory before the IC and amend the lore?

I mean, as much as I would want a Anglois/British Hong Kong, I also don't want to cause conflict with other people's apps, so I'm fine with it either way unless China's app changes to where I can keep it.

[Chewion]

I did reserve Italy btw

Ooops sorry my bad, roster is updated!

Anything I should know about Sweden or Denmark?

Constitutional Monarchies, relatively similar to IRL. Sweden was a decent colonial power in history with much of western Canada being a Swedish colony. Scandinavia may have a Nordic Union thing going on. A minor alliance between the Nordic states similar to the IRL EU.

Big beautiful Anglois app

Amazing work Hypron, loving the app, accepted unless you don't feel like it needs major reworks.

Also, you sure about Hong Kong being part of China? As in sure-sure that you want to switch that territory before the IC and amend the lore?

Finished my app. Asia is in for a wild ride

All right there's a lot there to unpack, gonna get some sleep after my night-shift now and then give it a second thorough read-through.

Consider me throwing my hat in the ring, should I be Australasia or Brazil?

Both are currently reserved at the moment, but the world is big, maybe Indonesia, Japan or the Philippines? A growing Ethiopia extending itself in eastern Africa? One of the post-war South African states maybe?

Tempted to join but, not sure of who to go with. Which sounds better, Egypt, India, or Occitaine?

Either one would be great to have on board, which one would you like to play the most? They all have a lot of opportunities.

From what I can assume with what little info I have, Nordbight seems to be a old Swedish colony, now independent nation in Quebec, Labrador and Ontario, while Hibernia is another name for Ireland, so New Hibernia is an old Irish colony, now independent nation consisting of Nova Scotia and Newfoundland.

Exactly this

I am thinking of doing an Executive Monarchy Australasia with the monarchy starting with John Hope, 7th Earl of Hopetoun with the idea being that he became the first King of Australia following the first world war after serving as Governor-General. Following WW2, the Monarch's powers are strengthened and set in stone by a new cOnstitution which seeks to balance the role of a strong monarchy, with powers similar to the French presidency, with the powers of a democratically elected parliament. Would something like this be viable?

Hmmm seems quite workable, but perhaps as a Grand Duchy or Principality or something along those lines in order to not offend Anglois during the transition by proclaiming a full monarchy?

App snip

Looks great thus far, really solid groundwork! Time to ship some counterrevolutionaries to the gulag welcome my loyal COMINTERN allies.

What if Australasia initially goes to a Principality until after WW2 when it transfers to a fully independent Kingdom with strong ties to the mother country by remaining in the Commonwealth or whatever replaces it in this RP. I’m thinking that in the 80’s or something it becomes an Empire with Papua New Guinea, New Zealand, and any other different regions having their own King

[The National Dominion of Hungary]

Finished app snip

I like it, lots of good work there UP but as I said, there's alot to unpack here too. I'd be willing to go with some of the changes to the established lore, I would be willing to have the Protected Republic of China not exist, so Dailan, Quingdao and Taiwan would be Chinese, as well as Hong Kong (Suuuure you're all right with that Hypron???). Tibet would be a nominally independent state, but safely in the SCO and given China's large economic and political influence would functionally more or less be a Chinese province. Spontaneously I'd like Korea to remain as it is, being the only other member of the GEACPS if we go with the Protected Republic never existing, lots of potential for shenanigans. I would appreciate something on the Vietnam War as well, as part of the Sino-Soviet Split and perhaps leading to Dai Li making the decision to modernize China in it's wake leading to the massive economic boom later.

[Chewion]

Is Fiji in Australasia?

[Rygondria]

Honestly, i'm kinda tempted too have Italy have some sort of vested interests in the middle east and north africa, they would be in a position to act on them, especially since they haven't appeared to be neutered by any of the world wars

[Theyra]

Tempted to join but, not sure of who to go with. Which sounds better, Egypt, India, or Occitaine?

Either one would be great to have on board, which one would you like to play the most? They all have a lot of opportunities.

I guess out of the three, Egypt would be the most.

[The National Dominion of Hungary]

What if Australasia initially goes to a Principality until after WW2 when it transfers to a fully independent Kingdom with strong ties to the mother country by remaining in the Commonwealth or whatever replaces it in this RP. I’m thinking that in the 80’s or something it becomes an Empire with Papua New Guinea, New Zealand, and any other different regions having their own King

That was the whole reason I mentioned the Principality thing, the Commonwealth is based on having the Anglois/British monarch as head of state. But that's IRL, if Hypron would be okay with having full monarchies as part of the Commonwealth I suppose that's cool. Maybe a central Kingdom of Australia with the Principalities of New Zealand and New Guinea as constituents?

Also would be cool if you went with New Guinea being an ex-German colony descended from Deutsch-Neu-Guinea.

[The National Dominion of Hungary]

Either one would be great to have on board, which one would you like to play the most? They all have a lot of opportunities.

I guess out of the three, Egypt would be the most.

Want me to reserve it for you?

Honestly, i'm kinda tempted too have Italy have some sort of vested interests in the middle east and north africa, they would be in a position to act on them, especially since they haven't appeared to be neutered by any of the world wars

Indeed it never was and thought you might, what did you have in mind? I suppose Italy would be the main Entente nation involving itself in the UAR Civil War if nothing else.

Is Fiji in Australasia?

Nope, Anglois

[Rygondria]

I guess out of the three, Egypt would be the most.

Want me to reserve it for you?

Honestly, i'm kinda tempted too have Italy have some sort of vested interests in the middle east and north africa, they would be in a position to act on them, especially since they haven't appeared to be neutered by any of the world wars

Indeed I thought you might, what did you have in mind? I suppose Italy would be the main Entente nation involving itself in the UAR Civil War if nothing else.

They would definitely heavily involved in the UAR's civil war, especially along the coastline, probably favoring the Hashemites and the Maronites. Was thinking that maybe they got a piece of the middle eastern influence the Anglois did after the great war did sort of like the French though i could be wrong with that. For North Africa, they would definitely focus on keeping their influence strong on Tunisia and Libya, especially Libya because of the Oilfields. They might be wary of Egypt but not to the scale of say...the Comintern in the Balkans.