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Madrinpoor
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Postby Madrinpoor » Sat Apr 23, 2022 6:34 am

Sutalia wrote:
Madrinpoor wrote:Anti-warranty bill of 2007

Does that already exist in-universe, or is that a proposed alternate title?

Yeah, it was a joke, haha
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Postby New Luciannova » Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:12 am

When do we vote for the Speaker?

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Postby Meretica » Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:17 am

New Luciannova wrote:When do we vote for the Speaker?

I'm assuming that the campaigns for Speaker will start after the date change and that we'll vote on that after each caucus has its candidate.
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Postby Prince Kropotkin » Sat Apr 23, 2022 8:19 am

Madrinpoor wrote:There won't be a Republican whip on this bill.

Ryan: Thanks.

Regan: WTF.

Anyway, for some reason the forum really doesn't like that Congressional bill image and it wouldn't let me edit the post with it in it, so I've just edited it out.

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Postby Cybernetic Socialist Republics » Sat Apr 23, 2022 3:31 pm

Alright, Re-imagiend and Reapped as just a first lady

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NS Nation Name: Cybernetic Socialist Republics
Character Name: Talise Fleming (nee Mabus)
Character Gender: Female
Character Age: 41 (October 17th 1965)
Character Height: 6'0
Character Weight: 175 Pounds
Character Position/Role/Job:
  • First Lady of Pennsylvania (2003-)
  • Senior executive United American Nurses (1999-2003)
  • Júnior executive at American Nurses Association (1994-1999)
  • Staff on Task Force on National Health Care Reform (1993-1994)
  • US Army Reserve Nurse (1987-2007)
  • Health Policy Staff for Centrist Democrat Think Tank (1987-1993)

Character Country/State of Birth: Phoenix, Arizona

Character State of Residence: Pennsylvania

Character Party Affiliation:

  • Democratic Party (1983-)

Main Strengths:
  • Convincing Frontierswoman
  • Physically and Vocally Attractive
  • 'Pink-collar' and Veteran Appeal.
  • Health Policy Wonk

Main Weaknesses:
  • Jealous
  • Regimental
  • Snide

Biography:

Born June 6th, 1965 in Phoenix, Arizona to her father Hyatt Mabus and mother, Dorothy Mabus (nee Morrison) in. Her parents met at University of Pennsylvania, though both were born in Arizona. Her father, A white catholic democrat studying finance and her mother an apache tribe feminist and member of the Socialist Party. They'd however would grow to be influenced by both the losses of the New Left and development of their careers to move toward the political center. Her father would work for an investment firm in Arizona and her mother would work for centrist democrat Arizona Attorney General and later Governor Bruce Babbitt. Despite being born in the city, her parents would regularly take her on trips to the ranches of friends and family, leading her to learn how to ride and horse and shoot from a young age, along with a rudimentary understanding of cattle raising,

Talise was a star student and owning to bother of her parents genes, a star athlete, getting a basketball scholarship to her parents alma mater. She'd got to Nursing School in university while playing division 1 basketball, completing in 1983. She'd then before starting her first year of law school before transferring to Harvard where she met and dated Upton Robert Fleming. During their time in law school the two would regularly argue about the merits of their respective wing of the democratic party, with the founding of the Democratic Leadership Council with it's centrist leaning beings particularly target of discussion. Talise's up bringing lead her to be very much pro DLC while Upton was firmly anti. For Talise, it was a matter of utilitarian pragmatism than a question of morality, but she did find her self drifting toward Upton's economic views and pulling him towards her scoop jackson inspired foreign policy views. One of their conversations lead Talise to decide that she'd sign up to become a reserve army nurse directly after completing law school. Talise and Upton would marry in 1987 and as she insisted that she would, she signed up to be an army reserve nurse.

In 1988, she would have twins with Upton while she worked with a think tank associated with the Democratic Leadership Council, in a role as a health policy advisor. In 1990, she was called up to serve with the 44th Medical Brigade during the first gulf war, the single longest period of time that she spent actually working as a front-line nurse aside from the state-side service she did as an army reserve nurse, but none the less one that provided a very unique and high intensity experience. After the end of her tour of duty, she'd continue to work in her old think tank position before ending up working on the [not-clinton] Campaign in a health policy advisor role. In that position she, among the rest of those serving in that role, would end up coming in contact not too infrequently with the soon to be first lady. In 1993, when [not-clinton] commissioned a team produce a health care reform bill and but his wife in chart, Talise was one of the members of the team. While she made the specifics of her feelings about the proceedings unknown to anyone but her husband, she grew increasingly disillusioned with the way that her fellow staff and congressional democrats approached the problem, feeling that they over emphasized compromise with a health insurance industry that treated the program as as existential threat regardless of how they moderated it, leading to the addition of complexity and clauses that simply undermined the attractiveness of the plan to those that would vote for it.

After the failure of the health care plan in 1994, Talise would leave working in the administration to instead work with American Nurses Association learning from the failure of health care reform due to the power of organizational against it in form of the insurance companies that's lose out vs. the lack of strong organizational support behind it in the form of medical worker and patient organizations, she spent the next 5 years working for colleagues within the ANA interested in forming an AFL-CIO affiliated union for nurses, figuring that not only would it be useful in advancing more direct interests of nurses, it'd also serve as a institution might be capable of lending structural support for future attempts at healthcare reform. United American Nurses would form in 1999 and she'd spend the better part of the next 4 years trying to set the ground work to merge with the nursing unions that existed within individual states.

When her husband became governor of Pennsylvania, she resigned from her role in the UAN and put her full focus on her job as First Lady of Pennsylvania. Upton, born and raised in a suburban and having worked in cities for more or less all of his life, simply did not have the touch when it came to rural America that she did. As a consequence, both his primary and governorship wins depend heavily on high turnout in the cities. Her job, therefore, as First Lady, became being a sort of 'rural American whisperer to her husband more than anything else, while also frequently being out on fact finding and agenda promoting missions in rural Pennsylvania. As a consequence of both, his image improved. Officially, however, her focus was on advocating for veterans and military families. Talise would end up becoming some what of a beloved figure among Pennsylvania democratic party, while also getting to know the struggles of rural Pennsylvanians and having the general respect of the average rural Pennsylvanian, with better approval than her husband in that regard.

She would lead the Army Reserve before Upton announced his presidential campaign. While very supportive of her husband's choice to run for president, they agreed that they'd for the most part under emphasize her public role until late April when they'd campaign together in her home state of Arizona. This didn't mean she wasn't completely sperate from his campaign thought. While they avoided the potentially negative optics of putting her directly in charge, Talise would play an advisory role in coming up with a health care proposal for her husband to campaign on. Learning from the failure of health reform in the 90s, Talise Fleming was a strong advocate of presenting a plan that'd give no quarter to the health insurance industry and would come out of the gates punching it in the mouth.

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Postby Dentali » Sat Apr 23, 2022 4:43 pm

Meretica wrote:
New Luciannova wrote:When do we vote for the Speaker?

I'm assuming that the campaigns for Speaker will start after the date change and that we'll vote on that after each caucus has its candidate.



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Postby Jovuistan » Sat Apr 23, 2022 4:55 pm

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NS Nation Name: Jovuistan
Character Name: Anthony "Tony" Boesch
Character Gender: Male
Character Age: 48
Character Height: 6'3"
Character Weight: 181 lbs
Character Position/Role/Job: U.S. Representative from Wisconsin's 1st District (2001-Present), Wisconsin State Senator (1995-2001)
Character Country/State of Birth: Wisconsin
Character State of Residence: Wisconsin
Character Party Affiliation: Republican
Faceclaim: Dominic Perrottet
Main Strengths: Bipartisan, reasonable, popular with suburban voters and moderates, deep party ties.
Main Weaknesses: Boring, career politician, conservatives take issue with some of his positions, doesn't make waves.
Biography: Anthony Boesch was born on December 22nd, 1958 in Madison, Wisconsin. The middle child, his father worked at a biotech firm, while more importantly, his mother was a legislative director for Senator Alexander Wiley. It was her who influenced the young Tony to become active in politics. Politically conscious and aligned with the politics of Reagan, Tony sought a degree in political science at UW–Madison. He wrote for The Daily Cardinal and graduated with a B.A. in political science in 1980.

Upon graduation, Tony chose to move to Racine, finding an opportunity to work on a State Assembly candidate's campaign. This experience allowed him to see electoral politics more up close than ever, and he was able to use the opportunity to build his name recognition among Republican officials in the state. He was hired as a Congressional Aide to Senator Kasten in 1982, giving him the chance to become more familiar in Congress and further build his connections. At the same time, Tony honed his writing abilities, and he was eventually hired as a speechwriter for (not-Tommy Thompson) in 1986. Considered to be a coherent speaker and good friend of the Governor, he was appointed (not-Thompson)'s press secretary in 1991.

Tony became a more public figure in the media due to his new position, allows him to boost his status in the party. In 1994, the 21st District of the Wisconsin State Senate was considered to be very critical, and very competitive. It just so happened that Tony happened to live in the area, and so he was tapped by the party to run for the open seat. His name recognition and connections to the party establishment, along with his effective messaging as a fresh and innovative voice for Wisconsin, allowed him to win the primary, and after a tight general election, Tony's youthful energy and solid war chest backing him managed to secure a victory.

In the State Senate, Tony gained a reputation as "the bridge" between Republicans and Democrats in the fiercely divided State Senate. Though he mostly stuck to the party line and acted as a fiscal conservative, Tony was willing to work with both parties, and was praised by his colleagues for being a respectable and negotiable member of the chamber. While he remained loyal to the Governor, pushing through welfare reform and tax cuts, his efforts to bring both parties into the room to talk things out made him favorable to his electorate, and he was able to win re-election despite the vulnerability of his district.

With Wisconsin's 1st Congressional District left open in 2000, Tony was courted as the perfect candidate to hold the safe seat. A combination of his popularity in his district, connections to state party officials, and effective campaigning in urban and suburban areas allowed him to easily win the primary. In the general election, no one was shocked when he won the safe seat, winning with over 2/3rds of the vote.

In Congress, Tony Boesch has been considered an overall conservative, though with an independent streak. He was a co-sponsor of the Cush tax cuts and stayed with the party line. At the same time, he worked with Democrats to work out deals that favored both parties. He has been a supporter of the Iraq War and the PATRIOT Act and opposes abortion. He co-sponsored and helped write the Tax Relief and Health Care Act of 2006, and supported the 2006 Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act. He has however been notably more open to civil unions for same-sex couples than most Republicans. He currently privately favors Calalo and Eriksen in the Presidential primary.
Other Info: Married to Denise Hoover since 1987. Has one child. On the Budget, Financial Services, and Oversight committees.

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Postby Dentali » Sun Apr 24, 2022 2:31 pm

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Madrinpoor
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Postby Madrinpoor » Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:35 pm

Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:Alright, Re-imagiend and Reapped as just a first lady

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Character Application and Information Sheet


NS Nation Name: Cybernetic Socialist Republics
Character Name: Talise Fleming (nee Mabus)
Character Gender: Female
Character Age: 41 (October 17th 1965)
Character Height: 6'0
Character Weight: 175 Pounds
Character Position/Role/Job:
  • First Lady of Pennsylvania (2003-)
  • Senior executive United American Nurses (1999-2003)
  • Júnior executive at American Nurses Association (1994-1999)
  • Staff on Task Force on National Health Care Reform (1993-1994)
  • US Army Reserve Nurse (1987-2007)
  • Health Policy Staff for Centrist Democrat Think Tank (1987-1993)

Character Country/State of Birth: Phoenix, Arizona

Character State of Residence: Pennsylvania

Character Party Affiliation:

  • Democratic Party (1983-)

Main Strengths:
  • Convincing Frontierswoman
  • Physically and Vocally Attractive
  • 'Pink-collar' and Veteran Appeal.
  • Health Policy Wonk

Main Weaknesses:
  • Jealous
  • Regimental
  • Snide

Biography:

Born June 6th, 1965 in Phoenix, Arizona to her father Hyatt Mabus and mother, Dorothy Mabus (nee Morrison) in. Her parents met at University of Pennsylvania, though both were born in Arizona. Her father, A white catholic democrat studying finance and her mother an apache tribe feminist and member of the Socialist Party. They'd however would grow to be influenced by both the losses of the New Left and development of their careers to move toward the political center. Her father would work for an investment firm in Arizona and her mother would work for centrist democrat Arizona Attorney General and later Governor Bruce Babbitt. Despite being born in the city, her parents would regularly take her on trips to the ranches of friends and family, leading her to learn how to ride and horse and shoot from a young age, along with a rudimentary understanding of cattle raising,

Talise was a star student and owning to bother of her parents genes, a star athlete, getting a basketball scholarship to her parents alma mater. She'd got to Nursing School in university while playing division 1 basketball, completing in 1983. She'd then before starting her first year of law school before transferring to Harvard where she met and dated Upton Robert Fleming. During their time in law school the two would regularly argue about the merits of their respective wing of the democratic party, with the founding of the Democratic Leadership Council with it's centrist leaning beings particularly target of discussion. Talise's up bringing lead her to be very much pro DLC while Upton was firmly anti. For Talise, it was a matter of utilitarian pragmatism than a question of morality, but she did find her self drifting toward Upton's economic views and pulling him towards her scoop jackson inspired foreign policy views. One of their conversations lead Talise to decide that she'd sign up to become a reserve army nurse directly after completing law school. Talise and Upton would marry in 1987 and as she insisted that she would, she signed up to be an army reserve nurse.

In 1988, she would have twins with Upton while she worked with a think tank associated with the Democratic Leadership Council, in a role as a health policy advisor. In 1990, she was called up to serve with the 44th Medical Brigade during the first gulf war, the single longest period of time that she spent actually working as a front-line nurse aside from the state-side service she did as an army reserve nurse, but none the less one that provided a very unique and high intensity experience. After the end of her tour of duty, she'd continue to work in her old think tank position before ending up working on the [not-clinton] Campaign in a health policy advisor role. In that position she, among the rest of those serving in that role, would end up coming in contact not too infrequently with the soon to be first lady. In 1993, when [not-clinton] commissioned a team produce a health care reform bill and but his wife in chart, Talise was one of the members of the team. While she made the specifics of her feelings about the proceedings unknown to anyone but her husband, she grew increasingly disillusioned with the way that her fellow staff and congressional democrats approached the problem, feeling that they over emphasized compromise with a health insurance industry that treated the program as as existential threat regardless of how they moderated it, leading to the addition of complexity and clauses that simply undermined the attractiveness of the plan to those that would vote for it.

After the failure of the health care plan in 1994, Talise would leave working in the administration to instead work with American Nurses Association learning from the failure of health care reform due to the power of organizational against it in form of the insurance companies that's lose out vs. the lack of strong organizational support behind it in the form of medical worker and patient organizations, she spent the next 5 years working for colleagues within the ANA interested in forming an AFL-CIO affiliated union for nurses, figuring that not only would it be useful in advancing more direct interests of nurses, it'd also serve as a institution might be capable of lending structural support for future attempts at healthcare reform. United American Nurses would form in 1999 and she'd spend the better part of the next 4 years trying to set the ground work to merge with the nursing unions that existed within individual states.

When her husband became governor of Pennsylvania, she resigned from her role in the UAN and put her full focus on her job as First Lady of Pennsylvania. Upton, born and raised in a suburban and having worked in cities for more or less all of his life, simply did not have the touch when it came to rural America that she did. As a consequence, both his primary and governorship wins depend heavily on high turnout in the cities. Her job, therefore, as First Lady, became being a sort of 'rural American whisperer to her husband more than anything else, while also frequently being out on fact finding and agenda promoting missions in rural Pennsylvania. As a consequence of both, his image improved. Officially, however, her focus was on advocating for veterans and military families. Talise would end up becoming some what of a beloved figure among Pennsylvania democratic party, while also getting to know the struggles of rural Pennsylvanians and having the general respect of the average rural Pennsylvanian, with better approval than her husband in that regard.

She would lead the Army Reserve before Upton announced his presidential campaign. While very supportive of her husband's choice to run for president, they agreed that they'd for the most part under emphasize her public role until late April when they'd campaign together in her home state of Arizona. This didn't mean she wasn't completely sperate from his campaign thought. While they avoided the potentially negative optics of putting her directly in charge, Talise would play an advisory role in coming up with a health care proposal for her husband to campaign on. Learning from the failure of health reform in the 90s, Talise Fleming was a strong advocate of presenting a plan that'd give no quarter to the health insurance industry and would come out of the gates punching it in the mouth.

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NS Nation Name: Jovuistan
Character Name: Anthony "Tony" Boesch
Character Gender: Male
Character Age: 48
Character Height: 6'3"
Character Weight: 181 lbs
Character Position/Role/Job: U.S. Representative from Wisconsin's 1st District (2001-Present), Wisconsin State Senator (1995-2001)
Character Country/State of Birth: Wisconsin
Character State of Residence: Wisconsin
Character Party Affiliation: Republican
Faceclaim: Dominic Perrottet
Main Strengths: Bipartisan, reasonable, popular with suburban voters and moderates, deep party ties.
Main Weaknesses: Boring, career politician, conservatives take issue with some of his positions, doesn't make waves.
Biography: Anthony Boesch was born on December 22nd, 1958 in Madison, Wisconsin. The middle child, his father worked at a biotech firm, while more importantly, his mother was a legislative director for Senator Alexander Wiley. It was her who influenced the young Tony to become active in politics. Politically conscious and aligned with the politics of Reagan, Tony sought a degree in political science at UW–Madison. He wrote for The Daily Cardinal and graduated with a B.A. in political science in 1980.

Upon graduation, Tony chose to move to Racine, finding an opportunity to work on a State Assembly candidate's campaign. This experience allowed him to see electoral politics more up close than ever, and he was able to use the opportunity to build his name recognition among Republican officials in the state. He was hired as a Congressional Aide to Senator Kasten in 1982, giving him the chance to become more familiar in Congress and further build his connections. At the same time, Tony honed his writing abilities, and he was eventually hired as a speechwriter for (not-Tommy Thompson) in 1986. Considered to be a coherent speaker and good friend of the Governor, he was appointed (not-Thompson)'s press secretary in 1991.

Tony became a more public figure in the media due to his new position, allows him to boost his status in the party. In 1994, the 21st District of the Wisconsin State Senate was considered to be very critical, and very competitive. It just so happened that Tony happened to live in the area, and so he was tapped by the party to run for the open seat. His name recognition and connections to the party establishment, along with his effective messaging as a fresh and innovative voice for Wisconsin, allowed him to win the primary, and after a tight general election, Tony's youthful energy and solid war chest backing him managed to secure a victory.

In the State Senate, Tony gained a reputation as "the bridge" between Republicans and Democrats in the fiercely divided State Senate. Though he mostly stuck to the party line and acted as a fiscal conservative, Tony was willing to work with both parties, and was praised by his colleagues for being a respectable and negotiable member of the chamber. While he remained loyal to the Governor, pushing through welfare reform and tax cuts, his efforts to bring both parties into the room to talk things out made him favorable to his electorate, and he was able to win re-election despite the vulnerability of his district.

With Wisconsin's 1st Congressional District left open in 2000, Tony was courted as the perfect candidate to hold the safe seat. A combination of his popularity in his district, connections to state party officials, and effective campaigning in urban and suburban areas allowed him to easily win the primary. In the general election, no one was shocked when he won the safe seat, winning with over 2/3rds of the vote.

In Congress, Tony Boesch has been considered an overall conservative, though with an independent streak. He was a co-sponsor of the Cush tax cuts and stayed with the party line. At the same time, he worked with Democrats to work out deals that favored both parties. He has been a supporter of the Iraq War and the PATRIOT Act and opposes abortion. He co-sponsored and helped write the Tax Relief and Health Care Act of 2006, and supported the 2006 Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act. He has however been notably more open to civil unions for same-sex couples than most Republicans. He currently privately favors Calalo and Eriksen in the Presidential primary.
Other Info: Married to Denise Hoover since 1987. Has one child. On the Budget, Financial Services, and Oversight committees.

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Postby Prince Kropotkin » Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:41 pm

Jovuistan wrote:Second call for co-sponsors for this anti-Iraq War bill.

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War On Terror and Iraq Reassessment Act

A BILL
To reassess and refocus the United States' war on terror, begin a gradual redeployment of U.S. Armed Forces from Iraq, and provide the U.S. Armed Forces with the resources needed to fight terrorism abroad.

Sponsor: Carole Martel (D-CA)
Senate Sponsors:
House Sponsors: John Mattox (D-MA7)


Total Expense: $55,438,650,000

SECTION 1: SHORT TITLE
    This Act may be cited as the "War On Terror and Iraq Reassessment Act".

SECTION 2: EMERGENCY DEFENSE APPROPRIATIONS
    In addition to current funds, the following funds shall be appropriated:

    Military Personnel, Army - $8,800,300,000

    Military Personnel, Navy - $1,100,400,000

    Military Personnel, Marine Corps - $1,500,000,000

    Military Personnel, Air Force - $1,200,500,000

    Reserve Personnel, Army - $140,200,000

    Reserve Personnel, Navy - $86,000,000

    Reserve Personnel, Marine Corps - $5,600,000

    Reserve Personnel, Air Force - $11,500,000

    National Guard Personnel, Army - $540,200,000

    National Guard Personnel, Air Force - $44,000,000

    Operation and Maintenance, Army - $20,300,300,000

    Operation and Maintenance, Navy - $4,600,600,000, of which up to $120,000,00 shall be transferred to Coast Guard.

    Operation and Maintenance, Marine Corps - $1,100,600,000

    Operation and Maintenance, Air Force - $6,600,800,000

    Operation and Maintenance, Defense-Wide - $2,700,400,000 of which--
    (1) no more than $25,000,000 may be used for the Combatant Commander Initiative fund, to be used in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom; and
    (2) no more than $200,000,000, to remain available until expended, may be used for payments to reimburse Pakistan, Jordan, and other key cooperating nations, for logistical, military, and other support provided to United States military operations, notwithstanding any other provision of law.

    Operation and Maintenance, Army Reserve - $74,000,000

    Operation and Maintenance, Navy Reserve - $111,000,000

    Operation and Maintenance, Marine Corps Reserve - $13,500,000

    Operation and Maintenance, Air Force Reserve - $10,100,000

    Operation and Maintenance, Army National Guard - $83,500,000

    Operation and Maintenance, Air National Guard - $38,400,000

    Afghanistan Security Forces Fund - $5,900,400,000, to remain available until September 30th, 2008.

    Iraq Security Forces Fund - $3,800,300,000, to remain available until September 30th, 2008.

    Iraq Freedom Fund - $350,600,000, to remain available for transfer until September 30, 2008: Provided that up to $50,000,000 may be obligated and expended for purposes of the Task Force to Improve Business and Stability Operations in Iraq.

    Appropriations provided in this section are available for obligation until September 30, 2007, unless otherwise provided in this section.

    A total of 85% of the funds appropriated in this section for operation and maintenance shall not be available for obligation until the Secretary of Defense submits to the congressional defense committees a report detailing the use of Department of Defense-funded service contracts conducted in the theater of operations in support of United States military and reconstruction activities in Iraq and Afghanistan: Provided that the report shall provide detailed information specifying the number of contracts and contract costs used to provide services in fiscal year 2006, with sub-allocations by major service categories, as well as include estimates of the number of contracts to be executed in fiscal year 2007, and include the number of contractor personnel in Iraq and Afghanistan funded by the Department of Defense, and also provided that the report shall be submitted to the congressional defense committees not later than August 1st, 2007.

SECTION 3: Reassessment of Iraq Operations
    Section 9010 of division A of Public Law 109-289 is amended by striking "2007" in each place it appears and inserting "2008".

    No funds made available by this act or any other act may be obligated or expended by the United States to establish any military installation or base for the purpose of providing for the permanent stationing of United States Armed Forces in Iraq or to exercise United States control over any oil resource of Iraq.

    Not later than 30 days after the date of enactment of this act, the Secretary of Defense shall submit a report to the congressional defense committees that contains individual transition readiness assessments by unit of Iraq and Afghanistan security forces. The Secretary of Defense shall submit updates to the report to the congressional defense committees every 90 days following the first report until October 1st, 2008. The report and updates of the report shall be submitted in classified form.

    Increases the number of heavy and light armored vehicles authorized to be purchased by DOD for force protection purposes in Iraq and Afghanistan from 20 to 287.

    Up to $155,000,000 from funds for the Iraq Security Forces Fund for fiscal year 2007 may be used, notwithstanding any other provision of law, to provide assistance to the Government of Iraq to support the disarmament demobilization, and reintegration of militias and illegal armed groups.

    $750,000 is provided to the Department of Defense to commission an independent, private sector entity, which operates as a 501(c)(3) with recognized credentials and expertise in military affairs, to prepare an independent report assessing the following:

    (1) The readiness of the Iraqi Security Forces to assume responsibility for maintaining the territorial integrity of Iraq, denying international terrorists a safe haven, bringing greater security to Iraq's 18 provinces in the next 12-18 months, and bringing an end to sectarian violence to achieve national reconciliation.

    (2) The training, equipping, command, control, intelligence capabilities, and logistics capacity of the Iraqi Security Forces.

    The designated private sector entity shall provide an unclassified report, with a classified annex, containing its finding to the House and Senate Armed Services, Appropriations, Foreign Relations, and Intelligence committees.

    $60,000,000 shall be provided to non-governmental organizations in Iraq for economic and social development programs and activities in areas of conflict.

    $60,000,000 shall be provided for the United States Agency for International Development, for democracy, human rights, and rule of law programs in Iraq, provided that not later than 60 days after enactment of this Act, the Secretary of State shall submit a report to the Committees on Appropriations describing a comprehensive, long-term strategy, with goals and expected results, for strengthening and advancing democracy in Iraq.

    $5,000,000 shall be provided to operations to rescue Iraqi scholars.

    The Department of State shall provide members of the Government Accountability Office (GAO) the country clearances, life support, and logistical and security support necessary to establish a GAO presence in Iraq for periods of not less than 45 days. The GAO shall use this presence to facilitate effective oversight of programs and activities in Iraq.

    The President shall appoint a Coordinator for Iraq Assistance who shall be responsible for developing and implementing an overall strategy for political, economic, and military assistance for Iraq.

    None of the funds made available by this act or any other act may be used to deploy any unit of the Armed Forces to Iraq unless the chief of the military department concerned has certified to the defense and appropriations committees at least 15 days in advance that such unit is fully mission capable.

    None of the funds made available by this act or any other act may be used to initiate, execute, or continue any order that has the effect of extending the deployment for Operation Iraqi Freedom of any unit of the:

    (1) Army, Army Reserve, or Army National Guard beyond 365 days.

    (2) Marine Corps or Marine Corps Reserve beyond 210 days.

    None of the funds made available by this act or any other act may be used to initiate, execute, or continue any order that has the effect of deploying for Operation Iraqi Freedom any unit of the:

    (1) Army, Army Reserve, or Army National Guard if such unit has been deployed within the previous 365 consecutive days.

    (2) Marine Corps or Marine Corps Reserve if such unit has been deployed within the previous 210 consecutive days.

    The Secretary of Defense shall formulate and commence a plan to redeploy U.S. Armed Forces from Iraq no later than October 1st, 2007, with the goal of completing such redeployment within 180 days.

    Notwithstanding any other provision of law, funds appropriated or otherwise made available in this or any other Act are immediately available for obligation and expenditure to plan and execute a safe and orderly redeployment of the U.S. Armed Forces from Iraq.

    After the appropriate redeployment period, the Secretary of Defense is prohibited from deploying or maintaining members of the Armed Forces in Iraq for any purpose other than:

    (1) protecting American diplomatic facilities, American citizens, and other U.S. forces.

    (2) serving in roles consistent with customary diplomatic positions.

    (3) engaging in targeted special actions limited in duration and scope to killing or capturing members of al-Qaeda and other terrorist organizations.

    (4) training and equipping members of the Iraqi Security Forces.

Ryan Gaines (D-OR-3) and Regan Storm (R-CT-4).

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Prince Kropotkin wrote:
Jovuistan wrote:Second call for co-sponsors for this anti-Iraq War bill.

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War On Terror and Iraq Reassessment Act

A BILL
To reassess and refocus the United States' war on terror, begin a gradual redeployment of U.S. Armed Forces from Iraq, and provide the U.S. Armed Forces with the resources needed to fight terrorism abroad.

Sponsor: Carole Martel (D-CA)
Senate Sponsors:
House Sponsors: John Mattox (D-MA7)


Total Expense: $55,438,650,000

SECTION 1: SHORT TITLE
    This Act may be cited as the "War On Terror and Iraq Reassessment Act".

SECTION 2: EMERGENCY DEFENSE APPROPRIATIONS
    In addition to current funds, the following funds shall be appropriated:

    Military Personnel, Army - $8,800,300,000

    Military Personnel, Navy - $1,100,400,000

    Military Personnel, Marine Corps - $1,500,000,000

    Military Personnel, Air Force - $1,200,500,000

    Reserve Personnel, Army - $140,200,000

    Reserve Personnel, Navy - $86,000,000

    Reserve Personnel, Marine Corps - $5,600,000

    Reserve Personnel, Air Force - $11,500,000

    National Guard Personnel, Army - $540,200,000

    National Guard Personnel, Air Force - $44,000,000

    Operation and Maintenance, Army - $20,300,300,000

    Operation and Maintenance, Navy - $4,600,600,000, of which up to $120,000,00 shall be transferred to Coast Guard.

    Operation and Maintenance, Marine Corps - $1,100,600,000

    Operation and Maintenance, Air Force - $6,600,800,000

    Operation and Maintenance, Defense-Wide - $2,700,400,000 of which--
    (1) no more than $25,000,000 may be used for the Combatant Commander Initiative fund, to be used in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom; and
    (2) no more than $200,000,000, to remain available until expended, may be used for payments to reimburse Pakistan, Jordan, and other key cooperating nations, for logistical, military, and other support provided to United States military operations, notwithstanding any other provision of law.

    Operation and Maintenance, Army Reserve - $74,000,000

    Operation and Maintenance, Navy Reserve - $111,000,000

    Operation and Maintenance, Marine Corps Reserve - $13,500,000

    Operation and Maintenance, Air Force Reserve - $10,100,000

    Operation and Maintenance, Army National Guard - $83,500,000

    Operation and Maintenance, Air National Guard - $38,400,000

    Afghanistan Security Forces Fund - $5,900,400,000, to remain available until September 30th, 2008.

    Iraq Security Forces Fund - $3,800,300,000, to remain available until September 30th, 2008.

    Iraq Freedom Fund - $350,600,000, to remain available for transfer until September 30, 2008: Provided that up to $50,000,000 may be obligated and expended for purposes of the Task Force to Improve Business and Stability Operations in Iraq.

    Appropriations provided in this section are available for obligation until September 30, 2007, unless otherwise provided in this section.

    A total of 85% of the funds appropriated in this section for operation and maintenance shall not be available for obligation until the Secretary of Defense submits to the congressional defense committees a report detailing the use of Department of Defense-funded service contracts conducted in the theater of operations in support of United States military and reconstruction activities in Iraq and Afghanistan: Provided that the report shall provide detailed information specifying the number of contracts and contract costs used to provide services in fiscal year 2006, with sub-allocations by major service categories, as well as include estimates of the number of contracts to be executed in fiscal year 2007, and include the number of contractor personnel in Iraq and Afghanistan funded by the Department of Defense, and also provided that the report shall be submitted to the congressional defense committees not later than August 1st, 2007.

SECTION 3: Reassessment of Iraq Operations
    Section 9010 of division A of Public Law 109-289 is amended by striking "2007" in each place it appears and inserting "2008".

    No funds made available by this act or any other act may be obligated or expended by the United States to establish any military installation or base for the purpose of providing for the permanent stationing of United States Armed Forces in Iraq or to exercise United States control over any oil resource of Iraq.

    Not later than 30 days after the date of enactment of this act, the Secretary of Defense shall submit a report to the congressional defense committees that contains individual transition readiness assessments by unit of Iraq and Afghanistan security forces. The Secretary of Defense shall submit updates to the report to the congressional defense committees every 90 days following the first report until October 1st, 2008. The report and updates of the report shall be submitted in classified form.

    Increases the number of heavy and light armored vehicles authorized to be purchased by DOD for force protection purposes in Iraq and Afghanistan from 20 to 287.

    Up to $155,000,000 from funds for the Iraq Security Forces Fund for fiscal year 2007 may be used, notwithstanding any other provision of law, to provide assistance to the Government of Iraq to support the disarmament demobilization, and reintegration of militias and illegal armed groups.

    $750,000 is provided to the Department of Defense to commission an independent, private sector entity, which operates as a 501(c)(3) with recognized credentials and expertise in military affairs, to prepare an independent report assessing the following:

    (1) The readiness of the Iraqi Security Forces to assume responsibility for maintaining the territorial integrity of Iraq, denying international terrorists a safe haven, bringing greater security to Iraq's 18 provinces in the next 12-18 months, and bringing an end to sectarian violence to achieve national reconciliation.

    (2) The training, equipping, command, control, intelligence capabilities, and logistics capacity of the Iraqi Security Forces.

    The designated private sector entity shall provide an unclassified report, with a classified annex, containing its finding to the House and Senate Armed Services, Appropriations, Foreign Relations, and Intelligence committees.

    $60,000,000 shall be provided to non-governmental organizations in Iraq for economic and social development programs and activities in areas of conflict.

    $60,000,000 shall be provided for the United States Agency for International Development, for democracy, human rights, and rule of law programs in Iraq, provided that not later than 60 days after enactment of this Act, the Secretary of State shall submit a report to the Committees on Appropriations describing a comprehensive, long-term strategy, with goals and expected results, for strengthening and advancing democracy in Iraq.

    $5,000,000 shall be provided to operations to rescue Iraqi scholars.

    The Department of State shall provide members of the Government Accountability Office (GAO) the country clearances, life support, and logistical and security support necessary to establish a GAO presence in Iraq for periods of not less than 45 days. The GAO shall use this presence to facilitate effective oversight of programs and activities in Iraq.

    The President shall appoint a Coordinator for Iraq Assistance who shall be responsible for developing and implementing an overall strategy for political, economic, and military assistance for Iraq.

    None of the funds made available by this act or any other act may be used to deploy any unit of the Armed Forces to Iraq unless the chief of the military department concerned has certified to the defense and appropriations committees at least 15 days in advance that such unit is fully mission capable.

    None of the funds made available by this act or any other act may be used to initiate, execute, or continue any order that has the effect of extending the deployment for Operation Iraqi Freedom of any unit of the:

    (1) Army, Army Reserve, or Army National Guard beyond 365 days.

    (2) Marine Corps or Marine Corps Reserve beyond 210 days.

    None of the funds made available by this act or any other act may be used to initiate, execute, or continue any order that has the effect of deploying for Operation Iraqi Freedom any unit of the:

    (1) Army, Army Reserve, or Army National Guard if such unit has been deployed within the previous 365 consecutive days.

    (2) Marine Corps or Marine Corps Reserve if such unit has been deployed within the previous 210 consecutive days.

    The Secretary of Defense shall formulate and commence a plan to redeploy U.S. Armed Forces from Iraq no later than October 1st, 2007, with the goal of completing such redeployment within 180 days.

    Notwithstanding any other provision of law, funds appropriated or otherwise made available in this or any other Act are immediately available for obligation and expenditure to plan and execute a safe and orderly redeployment of the U.S. Armed Forces from Iraq.

    After the appropriate redeployment period, the Secretary of Defense is prohibited from deploying or maintaining members of the Armed Forces in Iraq for any purpose other than:

    (1) protecting American diplomatic facilities, American citizens, and other U.S. forces.

    (2) serving in roles consistent with customary diplomatic positions.

    (3) engaging in targeted special actions limited in duration and scope to killing or capturing members of al-Qaeda and other terrorist organizations.

    (4) training and equipping members of the Iraqi Security Forces.

Ryan Gaines (D-OR-3) and Regan Storm (R-CT-4).

Regan Storm really wants to lose doesn't she
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Postby Prince Kropotkin » Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:26 pm

Not really. She saw what happened to Rob Simmons and is trying to avoid that same fate.

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Postby Jovuistan » Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:06 pm

Prince Kropotkin wrote:
Jovuistan wrote:Second call for co-sponsors for this anti-Iraq War bill.

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War On Terror and Iraq Reassessment Act

A BILL
To reassess and refocus the United States' war on terror, begin a gradual redeployment of U.S. Armed Forces from Iraq, and provide the U.S. Armed Forces with the resources needed to fight terrorism abroad.

Sponsor: Carole Martel (D-CA)
Senate Sponsors:
House Sponsors: John Mattox (D-MA7)


Total Expense: $55,438,650,000

SECTION 1: SHORT TITLE
    This Act may be cited as the "War On Terror and Iraq Reassessment Act".

SECTION 2: EMERGENCY DEFENSE APPROPRIATIONS
    In addition to current funds, the following funds shall be appropriated:

    Military Personnel, Army - $8,800,300,000

    Military Personnel, Navy - $1,100,400,000

    Military Personnel, Marine Corps - $1,500,000,000

    Military Personnel, Air Force - $1,200,500,000

    Reserve Personnel, Army - $140,200,000

    Reserve Personnel, Navy - $86,000,000

    Reserve Personnel, Marine Corps - $5,600,000

    Reserve Personnel, Air Force - $11,500,000

    National Guard Personnel, Army - $540,200,000

    National Guard Personnel, Air Force - $44,000,000

    Operation and Maintenance, Army - $20,300,300,000

    Operation and Maintenance, Navy - $4,600,600,000, of which up to $120,000,00 shall be transferred to Coast Guard.

    Operation and Maintenance, Marine Corps - $1,100,600,000

    Operation and Maintenance, Air Force - $6,600,800,000

    Operation and Maintenance, Defense-Wide - $2,700,400,000 of which--
    (1) no more than $25,000,000 may be used for the Combatant Commander Initiative fund, to be used in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom; and
    (2) no more than $200,000,000, to remain available until expended, may be used for payments to reimburse Pakistan, Jordan, and other key cooperating nations, for logistical, military, and other support provided to United States military operations, notwithstanding any other provision of law.

    Operation and Maintenance, Army Reserve - $74,000,000

    Operation and Maintenance, Navy Reserve - $111,000,000

    Operation and Maintenance, Marine Corps Reserve - $13,500,000

    Operation and Maintenance, Air Force Reserve - $10,100,000

    Operation and Maintenance, Army National Guard - $83,500,000

    Operation and Maintenance, Air National Guard - $38,400,000

    Afghanistan Security Forces Fund - $5,900,400,000, to remain available until September 30th, 2008.

    Iraq Security Forces Fund - $3,800,300,000, to remain available until September 30th, 2008.

    Iraq Freedom Fund - $350,600,000, to remain available for transfer until September 30, 2008: Provided that up to $50,000,000 may be obligated and expended for purposes of the Task Force to Improve Business and Stability Operations in Iraq.

    Appropriations provided in this section are available for obligation until September 30, 2007, unless otherwise provided in this section.

    A total of 85% of the funds appropriated in this section for operation and maintenance shall not be available for obligation until the Secretary of Defense submits to the congressional defense committees a report detailing the use of Department of Defense-funded service contracts conducted in the theater of operations in support of United States military and reconstruction activities in Iraq and Afghanistan: Provided that the report shall provide detailed information specifying the number of contracts and contract costs used to provide services in fiscal year 2006, with sub-allocations by major service categories, as well as include estimates of the number of contracts to be executed in fiscal year 2007, and include the number of contractor personnel in Iraq and Afghanistan funded by the Department of Defense, and also provided that the report shall be submitted to the congressional defense committees not later than August 1st, 2007.

SECTION 3: Reassessment of Iraq Operations
    Section 9010 of division A of Public Law 109-289 is amended by striking "2007" in each place it appears and inserting "2008".

    No funds made available by this act or any other act may be obligated or expended by the United States to establish any military installation or base for the purpose of providing for the permanent stationing of United States Armed Forces in Iraq or to exercise United States control over any oil resource of Iraq.

    Not later than 30 days after the date of enactment of this act, the Secretary of Defense shall submit a report to the congressional defense committees that contains individual transition readiness assessments by unit of Iraq and Afghanistan security forces. The Secretary of Defense shall submit updates to the report to the congressional defense committees every 90 days following the first report until October 1st, 2008. The report and updates of the report shall be submitted in classified form.

    Increases the number of heavy and light armored vehicles authorized to be purchased by DOD for force protection purposes in Iraq and Afghanistan from 20 to 287.

    Up to $155,000,000 from funds for the Iraq Security Forces Fund for fiscal year 2007 may be used, notwithstanding any other provision of law, to provide assistance to the Government of Iraq to support the disarmament demobilization, and reintegration of militias and illegal armed groups.

    $750,000 is provided to the Department of Defense to commission an independent, private sector entity, which operates as a 501(c)(3) with recognized credentials and expertise in military affairs, to prepare an independent report assessing the following:

    (1) The readiness of the Iraqi Security Forces to assume responsibility for maintaining the territorial integrity of Iraq, denying international terrorists a safe haven, bringing greater security to Iraq's 18 provinces in the next 12-18 months, and bringing an end to sectarian violence to achieve national reconciliation.

    (2) The training, equipping, command, control, intelligence capabilities, and logistics capacity of the Iraqi Security Forces.

    The designated private sector entity shall provide an unclassified report, with a classified annex, containing its finding to the House and Senate Armed Services, Appropriations, Foreign Relations, and Intelligence committees.

    $60,000,000 shall be provided to non-governmental organizations in Iraq for economic and social development programs and activities in areas of conflict.

    $60,000,000 shall be provided for the United States Agency for International Development, for democracy, human rights, and rule of law programs in Iraq, provided that not later than 60 days after enactment of this Act, the Secretary of State shall submit a report to the Committees on Appropriations describing a comprehensive, long-term strategy, with goals and expected results, for strengthening and advancing democracy in Iraq.

    $5,000,000 shall be provided to operations to rescue Iraqi scholars.

    The Department of State shall provide members of the Government Accountability Office (GAO) the country clearances, life support, and logistical and security support necessary to establish a GAO presence in Iraq for periods of not less than 45 days. The GAO shall use this presence to facilitate effective oversight of programs and activities in Iraq.

    The President shall appoint a Coordinator for Iraq Assistance who shall be responsible for developing and implementing an overall strategy for political, economic, and military assistance for Iraq.

    None of the funds made available by this act or any other act may be used to deploy any unit of the Armed Forces to Iraq unless the chief of the military department concerned has certified to the defense and appropriations committees at least 15 days in advance that such unit is fully mission capable.

    None of the funds made available by this act or any other act may be used to initiate, execute, or continue any order that has the effect of extending the deployment for Operation Iraqi Freedom of any unit of the:

    (1) Army, Army Reserve, or Army National Guard beyond 365 days.

    (2) Marine Corps or Marine Corps Reserve beyond 210 days.

    None of the funds made available by this act or any other act may be used to initiate, execute, or continue any order that has the effect of deploying for Operation Iraqi Freedom any unit of the:

    (1) Army, Army Reserve, or Army National Guard if such unit has been deployed within the previous 365 consecutive days.

    (2) Marine Corps or Marine Corps Reserve if such unit has been deployed within the previous 210 consecutive days.

    The Secretary of Defense shall formulate and commence a plan to redeploy U.S. Armed Forces from Iraq no later than October 1st, 2007, with the goal of completing such redeployment within 180 days.

    Notwithstanding any other provision of law, funds appropriated or otherwise made available in this or any other Act are immediately available for obligation and expenditure to plan and execute a safe and orderly redeployment of the U.S. Armed Forces from Iraq.

    After the appropriate redeployment period, the Secretary of Defense is prohibited from deploying or maintaining members of the Armed Forces in Iraq for any purpose other than:

    (1) protecting American diplomatic facilities, American citizens, and other U.S. forces.

    (2) serving in roles consistent with customary diplomatic positions.

    (3) engaging in targeted special actions limited in duration and scope to killing or capturing members of al-Qaeda and other terrorist organizations.

    (4) training and equipping members of the Iraqi Security Forces.

Ryan Gaines (D-OR-3) and Regan Storm (R-CT-4).

A bit late to add them as co-sponsors but thank you for the support.
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Postby Prince Kropotkin » Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:09 pm

May I ask why it is too late? The bill hasn't even been introduced in the House yet. Typically a cosponsor can be added at any point right up until the final vote.

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Postby Jovuistan » Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:49 pm

Prince Kropotkin wrote:May I ask why it is too late? The bill hasn't even been introduced in the House yet. Typically a cosponsor can be added at any point right up until the final vote.

I'll edit them into it in that case.
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New Luciannova wrote:
Madrinpoor wrote:


1. FL-04 is very white now and back then
2. No drug mule, that's just too unrealistic...
3. Needs more weaknesses
4. Can you add some more bio
5. No Marco Rubio, faceclaims have to be from different states

1.I'll change him to FL-18.
2. I do not see how a child in the ghetto being tricked into being a drug mule is unrealistic. It is quite often in poorer communities for youths to be exploiting in trafficking unknowingly. Mule can refer to international travel, he was simply delivering packages of unknown contents about the genera area.

3-5 I have no objections to and will improve upon.

Okay, I've read this again, there are other problems with the app.

1. Wet foot, dry foot. There are no "Cuban illegal immigrants" unless they don't even apply for a visa.
2. What I mean is unrealistic is that he could totally reform and turn his life around...it is unbelievably unrealistic that a 13-year-old in the ghetto who gets out of jail can become a perfect shiny Republican veteran borderline Mary Sue. If you or another admin wants to argue with me that's fine.
3. ...how did he earn a bronze star, please explain that...
4. Felons can't enlist in the army unless granted a special waver by the DoD.
5. I don't get the next to last sentence, "Despite being in a red district he knocked on every door"
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Postby New Luciannova » Mon Apr 25, 2022 11:22 am

Madrinpoor wrote:
New Luciannova wrote:
1. FL-04 is very white now and back then
2. No drug mule, that's just too unrealistic...
3. Needs more weaknesses
4. Can you add some more bio
5. No Marco Rubio, faceclaims have to be from different states

1.I'll change him to FL-18.
2. I do not see how a child in the ghetto being tricked into being a drug mule is unrealistic. It is quite often in poorer communities for youths to be exploiting in trafficking unknowingly. Mule can refer to international travel, he was simply delivering packages of unknown contents about the genera area.

3-5 I have no objections to and will improve upon.

Okay, I've read this again, there are other problems with the app.

1. Wet foot, dry foot. There are no "Cuban illegal immigrants" unless they don't even apply for a visa.
2. What I mean is unrealistic is that he could totally reform and turn his life around...it is unbelievably unrealistic that a 13-year-old in the ghetto who gets out of jail can become a perfect shiny Republican veteran borderline Mary Sue. If you or another admin wants to argue with me that's fine.
3. ...how did he earn a bronze star, please explain that...
4. Felons can't enlist in the army unless granted a special waver by the DoD.
5. I don't get the next to last sentence, "Despite being in a red district he knocked on every door"


1. That is true, and I know the law very well, I can tailor that as needed.
2. Some juvenile offenders do desperately reform, some do not. I hardly think a person who is short-tempered and highly judgemental, especially with a rumored wandering eye, and may be cozy with organized crime figures is a Mary Sue.
3. It is not overly hard to win in combat, especially if you're engaged multiple times.
4. I don't know the policy with juvenile offenders, oftentimes your record is wiped clean at 18.
5. He did an aggressive door-to-door campaign. Even though his district would be an easy win for any Republican candidate, he campaigned hard and gave it 100%.

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ANNOUNCEMENT

Dem debate here:

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=517071

Woolworth doesn't meet the polling threshold (sorry dude) but Littenbaum does
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Postby The Sarangtus Lands » Mon Apr 25, 2022 12:03 pm

Madrinpoor wrote:ANNOUNCEMENT

Dem debate here:

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=517071

Woolworth doesn't meet the polling threshold (sorry dude) but Littenbaum does

Woolworth dropped out anyway
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Postby Mareadmonte » Mon Apr 25, 2022 12:32 pm

The Sarangtus Lands wrote:
Madrinpoor wrote:ANNOUNCEMENT

Dem debate here:

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=517071

Woolworth doesn't meet the polling threshold (sorry dude) but Littenbaum does

Woolworth dropped out anyway


This.

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Postby Madrinpoor » Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:08 pm

Mareadmonte wrote:
The Sarangtus Lands wrote:Woolworth dropped out anyway


This.

Right I forgot
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Postby Madrinpoor » Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:13 pm

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Madrinpoor wrote:Okay, I've read this again, there are other problems with the app.

1. Wet foot, dry foot. There are no "Cuban illegal immigrants" unless they don't even apply for a visa.
2. What I mean is unrealistic is that he could totally reform and turn his life around...it is unbelievably unrealistic that a 13-year-old in the ghetto who gets out of jail can become a perfect shiny Republican veteran borderline Mary Sue. If you or another admin wants to argue with me that's fine.
3. ...how did he earn a bronze star, please explain that...
4. Felons can't enlist in the army unless granted a special waver by the DoD.
5. I don't get the next to last sentence, "Despite being in a red district he knocked on every door"


1. That is true, and I know the law very well, I can tailor that as needed.
2. Some juvenile offenders do desperately reform, some do not. I hardly think a person who is short-tempered and highly judgemental, especially with a rumored wandering eye, and may be cozy with organized crime figures is a Mary Sue.
3. It is not overly hard to win in combat, especially if you're engaged multiple times.
4. I don't know the policy with juvenile offenders, oftentimes your record is wiped clean at 18.
5. He did an aggressive door-to-door campaign. Even though his district would be an easy win for any Republican candidate, he campaigned hard and gave it 100%.

2. I see. And I know you're not trying to make one cause I trust you, but the weakness list doesn't necessarily reflect all that. He has three, two of which aren't really very impactful, and the other one is as common as a gay Pope, in political circles.
3. Bronze stars are awarded for exceptional heroism, and they are overly hard to get, and there is one sentence about his military career. I would like some more if you want to keep that in, otherwise you could drop it.
4. I don't know the law totally, but from a cursory search, yes, juvenile felonies can stand in the way of enlistment. On top of that, this wasn't a misdemeanor or something, this was drug smuggling.
5. Ok, I see.
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NS Nation Name: Vaquas

Character Name: Sutton Owen Seidel

Character Gender: Male

Character Age: 58

Character Height: 6’6

Character Weight: 247 lbs

Character Position/Role/Job: GOP Megadonor and Influence Holder (1992 - Present)
Owner of the Dallas Cowboys (1989 - Present)
Chairman and CEO of the Seidel Corporation (1972 - Present)
NFL Superstar (1971 - 1980)

Character Country/State of Birth: Missouri

Character State of Residence: Texas

Character Party Affiliation: Republican

Faceclaim: Punished Mike Rounds
Main Strengths:

L'état, c'est moi (at least in Texas): Sutton Seidel's political influence has permeated every nook and cranny of Texas politics, from federal officeholders to city comptrollers and council members, and the state party apparatus is at least in part an extension of his own political project, limited as that is. If some regulation needs to be axed in the lone star state, its as good as done the moment he picks up the phone. If someone is posing problems, dirt on them is likely to leak out sooner or later. The stars at night are big and bright, the song goes, if Sutton Seidel says they are.

Fair and Unbalanced: Seidel's influence is not confined strictly to Texas, and while he also has limited sway in Louisiana and Arkansas, some argue his most powerful allies are in national media, with his many companies often advertising on Fox News and Right-Wing radio programs. Appearing every so often on Hannity or Beck or Limbaugh as a "one of a kind hall of famer" or "rags to riches example of the American Dream", the Republican ecosystem eats him up, and while its not cheap, Sutton can certainly afford it.

Captain Comeback: Sutton has influence beyond simple politics, and while his political endeavors are significant, many more Americans know him as one of the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history, with some even considering him the best. Among those in his age demographic, Seidel is a household name, and even today many aspiring athletes look to his example, resulting in many holding a positive view of the former athlete entirely divorced from politics.
Main Weaknesses:


It was an accident: The death of Sutton's wife created a media frenzy and divided the nation, and even now years later there are a significant number of Americans, including one of his own daughters, who are convinced that Seidel murdered his wife in cold blood. As such, he has been castigated on late night, poked at by edgy comedians, slammed by liberal democrats, and protested against by victims advocates, and while Seidel would never admit it, he is deeply bothered by this. Whether out of guilt from the consequences of his actions or anger at false and painful accusations, well, only he knows.

You won't like me when I'm angry: Seidel struggles with significant emotional instability and anger issues, and while he attempts to hide this behind a façade of collected and tactile business acumen, it has more than once cost him opportunities and frightened political allies. Seidel has had to be stopped from physically assaulting someone in his offices multiple times, and has on many occasions berated and bullied staff to the point of tears and resignation. Depsite recognizing this as a small problem, the man sees no point in altering his behavior, and the medicines prescribed to help tackle such issues go untaken in medicine cabinets scattered across his properties.

Its just Business: As a multi-billionaire, Seidel would be lying if he told someone that all of his investments were made without... foresight. Though it would be exceedingly difficult to prove anything, it is almost certain that in the course of his business and political dealings Sutton has crossed wires and manipulated either the markets or the legislature to his own benefit, making him reviled by campaign finance reformers, anti-corruption watchdogs, and those refraining from unfair business practices. These grumblings have only intensified since his son took office in the Senate, but the older Seidel assures the public that his oldest progeny is his own man. Who truly believes that is anyone's guess.


Biography: Born June 16, 1949 in Trenton, Missouri to Ted and Frida Seidel, Sutton was the fourth of seven children, raised in a poor, neglected area of the state without much in the way of amenities or recreation. Ted Seidel was a policeman, the oldest of 10 siblings himself and an alcoholic who would often redirect the anger built up on the job onto his own children and his wife via both verbal and physical abuse. Frida Seidel would work in an assembly line before being forced to quit her job by her husband in 1954, after which she would devote herself fully to taking care of the children, to the best of her limited ability. The family surviving on only one source of income in a house far too small to accommodate such a large group, Sutton and his siblings would often go hungry, most of his full meals coming from friends when he would visit their houses for sleepovers or to complete homework. Sutton would often attend school after being beaten early in the morning by his father, with visible bruises and a distinct lack of sleep, but at no time during this early stage of his life would a teacher or other adult intervene on his behalf. Initial childhood aspirations to enter nursing as his grandmother had were beaten out of him after a pamphlet concerning the matter from the middle school’s career day was discovered by his father, as were considerations of becoming an author. Life would change dramatically at age 14, when, after a community Fourth of July event, Sutton bore witness to the sexual assault of his young sister, Suzette, at the hands of his father. Blinded by rage and shock, Sutton would retrieve one of the house’s many firearms and shoot Ted Seidel several times, killing him instantly. Ultimately, Sutton would not face legal consequences for the killing due to the circumstances, though that would not mark the end of his tribulations. Just 9 days following his father’s death, Frida Seidel would commit suicide, throwing herself from a bridge and drowning in a nearby creek.

Sutton was thoroughly traumatized by these events and would undergo mandatory counseling for the next four years, him and his younger siblings moving in with their aging and recently widowered grandfather in Texarkana, Texas. Quiet, reserved, and still processing what had happened during his first year in a new place, it was in his sophomore year of high school that Seidel would turn to Christ, regularly attending a Lutheran church in town and becoming quickly well liked as an involved and devout member of the congregation, activity encouraged by his grandfather, a retired pastor himself. Finding community for the first time in his life, Sutton used the church group as a support system and soon thereafter flourished. Sutton would also participate in high school football, discovering an extraordinary natural talent for it and eventually becoming the consistent MVP of the team. Here in Texarkana, Seidel would come into his own, becoming very popular with his peers and even falling in love with the preacher’s daughter, Mary Patterson. He would perform decently in school, excelling particularly in English with the help of a good self-sought tutor, but his sports talent would be what drew the most attention, his incredible high school football career ultimately landing him a full ride scholarship to the University of Texas at Austin, where he would play for the Longhorns and become the team’s star quarterback. He would rush the Phi Delta Theta fraternity and become deeply involved with its on campus dealings, including more than one incident of hazing, though his star status on the football team would absolve him of any consequence for these occurrences. Though most areas of his life saw further improvement in college, his relationship with Ms. Patterson deteriorated and the two ended their long-time relationship during his sophomore year, with Stenson having numerous girlfriends during the remainder of his college life. Deferred from the draft due to his academic and athletic careers, Sutton would nevertheless lose two good friends to the conflict, including his best friend, an African-American and former teammate by the name of Milton Jefferson, something that would weigh on him heavily. Nevertheless, he would persist with his endeavors and finish college with a plethora of accolades, including a degree in business, two national college championships, a Maxwell Award and a Heisman in 1970 as well.

An extraordinary star player, he would immediately be drafted into the NFL upon his graduation in 1971, playing for the Dallas Cowboys, with whom he would spend 9 seasons total. During his second season, he would marry his girlfriend of a year and a half, Lillian Kitts. In the national spotlight after groundbreaking performances, Stetson would take over as Quarterback of the team in 1975, going down as one of, if not the greatest, quarterbacks of all time after leading the Cowboys to Victory in the ‘75, ‘77, and ‘78 Superbowls, winning SB MVP in ‘75 and ‘78. Seidel’s most famous moment was the "Hail Mary pass" in the 1975 playoff game against the Minnesota Vikings. With seconds on the clock and the Cowboys trailing 14–10, Seidel launched a 50-yard pass to wide receiver Drew Pearson, who caught the pass and strode into the end zone for a 17–14 victory. After the game, Seidel told the press that he threw the ball and said a "Hail Mary". Since then, any last-second pass to the end zone in a desperate attempt to score a game-winning or tying touchdown is referred to as a "Hail Mary" pass, and the term has entered colloquial use. Sutton would earn nicknames like “Sizzling Sutton” for his good looks and speed on the field, "Captain America" as quarterback of “America's Team”, and also "Captain Comeback" due to his late game heroics, and he would become a household name in the late 70’s. Sutton would unfortunately injure himself goofing off with teammates during practice in 1979, and he would retire in 1980 after a 9 season career. During his offseasons, Seidel’s hands were not idle, building a business off of his name via the self-nomered Seidel Corporation, with successful ventures into sportswear, real estate, breakfast cereal and even a successful line of toys based off of famous sportsmen (and later women). As a result, Seidel would exit the NFL a multimillionaire, and would use his newfound wealth and free time to broaden his investment portfolio even further and capitalize on numerous and varied lucrative opportunities both foreign and domestic. It was in 1980 when he would also first develop a relationship with politics, donating handsomely to Ronald Reagan and stumping for the candidate across the country, calling him “inspiring” and “everything an American President should be”. Seidel’s children would come in ‘75, ‘79, and ‘81, Shawn, Chloe, and Julia respectively.

During the 80’s, Seidel primarily worked on expanding and broadening his business, an entity whose tentacles would aim to reach into every lucrative sector in the U.S from wine, to film and publishing, even to luggage. Using his fame to forge partnerships with those already entrenched in various sectors, including his good friend Hoss Manot, he would also grow close to newcomers in the scene, the most fateful of which was the founder of the fledgling Microsoft, Bill Gates, who would convince Seidel to invest after an initial hesitancy to do so. The investment, along with the many others made, would catapult Seidel into gross wealth, with the former athlete reaching a net worth of several billion dollars and allowing him to invest the capital necessary to permanently entrench himself as a power player in the Sportswear, Publishing, and Toy industries. It was during this time that his marriage would become shaky and he would stray heavily from his faith, with several affairs damaging his relationship with his wife and a cocaine habit resulting in more than a few dangerous benders and close calls with the law. Seidel would live the high life, partying with the likes of close friend Tripp Baylor as his wife began finding it hard to recognize him anymore, and accepting entries into Halls of Fame while missing his kids’ dance recitals and sports games. He would even purchase his former NFL team in 1989 for $180 Million, and become intimately involved with the team's decision making, sometimes to its benefit, sometimes otherwise. He would father two bastard children during this time, Richard Orrin Chase with actress Penelope Chase in 1987 and Rodrigo Manuel Hernandez with a maid at his Cancun, Mexico residence in 1990.

With a rise so significant and fruitful, it was only a matter of time before Icarus flew too close to the sun. On May 23rd, 1991, Sutton, along with his wife and three children, went on a trip to the Grand Canyon. The couple spent the entirety of the trip to the location arguing, and as the day progressed, the two became more incensed with one another, with witnesses to the behavior of the pair that day describing it as “incredibly hostile and upsetting.” At around 3:45 PM, the family found themselves at a large rock formation overlooking the canyon, and the lone non-family witness to the scene described the interaction he heard between the two adults as “almost unbelievably angry.” At some point, the couple found themselves near the edge of the rocks, and as the argument hit a fever pitch, something happened, though exactly what depends on who you ask. According to Sutton Seidel, Shawn Seidel, and Chloe Seidel, Lillian Seidel lost her footing in the heat of the moment and fell, 221 feet, to her death, screaming all the while and dying upon impact with a large rock below. According to Sutton’s youngest daughter, Julia, however, Mr. Seidel violently pushed her mother from the cliffside to her death. The immediate aftermath of the incident was a media firestorm, with national headline news laser focused on the former NFL star turned businessman and what role he may have played in his wife’s demise. Much was made of his daughter’s accusation, to the point that the Federal Bureau of Investigation opened a probe into the matter before dismissing it due to lack of evidence, and significant damage was done to his personal brand. Despite maintaining his innocence, Sutton lost his seat on a number of corporate boards, including Microsoft’s, and suddenly partners who had stuck by him for years were too busy to take a call. His affairs were exposed as the tabloids ran story after story about the former golden boy’s personal life, sketchy business ventures, and the civil suit brought against him by the family of the deceased. Settling out of court for an undisclosed amount of money and signing away custody of his youngest daughter to her maternal grandparents, Sutton became a recluse, sheltering himself with his other two children in his home in rural Germany for a good year as the firestorm slowly subsided. When he emerged, his reputation was badly tattered, his body and mind were sober, and no amount of money in the world was going to be able to fix the hole that had been left in his life.

Or would it?

Given the cold shoulder by his old friend Manot as he launched his independent campaign for the Presidency in ‘92, an idea was hatched in Sutton’s brain on a cold day in Cologne. The strongest tentacle arms of the Seidel Corporation were largely shielded from the fallout of that fateful day given their independent branding and marketing, so he had continued to reap financial rewards from his most profitable enterprises, leaving him with more money than he knew what to do with, even after ceding the Florida properties and a sizable sum to the in-laws. Money that could be used to buy not only influence, but public defenders. Hence, Sutton Seidel’s career as a GOP megadonor had begun. Funneling millions of dollars into the campaign to reelect Cush Sr. and millions more into downballot primary and general election races, Sutton Seidel suddenly, seemingly overnight, had a legion of Republican electeds eager to defend him when the subject was occasionally broached in interviews. With the tide of public opinion washing past him and his reputation stabilizing (but never fully recovering to its high) with subsequent event appearances and strategically sympathetic interviews, Seidel once again found his place in the world, though this time pulling strings behind the scenes instead of acting center stage. He would meanwhile fully clean up his act, embracing, recognizing, and legally adopting his two illegitimate children and permanently abandoning both drugs and alcohol. He would also quite publicly return to regular church services and begin to describe himself as a “born again” christian, converting to Methodism. Seidel would relocate his primary residence back to Dallas and would begin an extremely expensive influence campaign that would bear fruit in a horde of newly influenced congressmen and state legislators brought in by the Republican Revolution of 1994, including being the largest individual donor to the Cush Jr. Gubernatorial bid in Texas. Throughout the remainder of the 1990’s, Seidel would build a reputation as a donor who rewarded loyalty, financing upstart campaigns to unseat incumbents if they proved unwilling to move in the direction of the conglomerate’s interests but also fighting back against radical and racist challengers where they arose, particularly in the State of Texas. Seidel would support Not-Dole’s ‘96 Bid and attend the RNC, though he would not speak. He would also remarry in ‘96, to his former maid Mariana Hernandez, now Mariana Seidel, in a private ceremony. In 1997 his grandfather would die at a very advanced age, severing one of Sutton’s strongest ties to the world before his fame and fortune. He would arrange an extravagant funeral, and would lay his grandfather to rest himself.

As the 2000 Election cycle approached, Seidel hitched his wagon to Cush Jr. yet again, this time on its way to the White House, buying his way into a seat at the campaign’s roundtable and serving as a surrogate as well as a donor. He would develop a personal relationship with Cush Jr, not as significant as the one he had developed with his father but one strong enough to call him a friend. Despite this, Seidel’s advice not to select Not-Cheney to accompany him on the ticket would fall on deaf ears, much to the man’s chagrin. When Cush ultimately won the election, not without the drama of the SCOTUS debacle, it was floated that perhaps Seidel would join the Administration’s cabinet. This would not come to pass, with Seidel instead seeking to influence the Presidency in an unofficial capacity as a “Presidential Advisor”. Seidel would continue to support Cush and his agenda heavily up until the invasion of Iraq in 2003, when his support for the Commander-In-Chief would suddenly lessen, with more resources being diverted to downballot candidates such as Governor Pender, Not-Vitter in Louisiana, and his son’s campaign for Texas’ 4th Congressional District. After achieving victories in those races, Seidel would deeply involve himself in cleanup efforts post-Katrina, donating a sizable amount of cash to contain and reverse the damage done and assisting volunteers in person, sparking speculation among political media types about his ultimate intentions.

In late 2005, it became clear that the incumbent Senator from Texas would retire, taking a posting in the Cush administration. Many expected a fierce primary battle among prominent Texas Republicans, with several having waited for such an opening for years. This battle, however would not come to pass. Leveraging the power he had begun to wield as the “Silent King of Texas Politics”, Seidel whipped up the support of those whose pocketbooks he controlled, including Governor Pender, and backed his son, an inexperienced 30 year old congressional freshman, for the Senate seat. The move would shock many, and the incumbent Lieutenant Governor would launch a challenge to Shawn Seidel anyhow, blasting him as inexperienced and a product of nepotism. This would prove a fatal mistake, with a wide variety of stories suddenly popping up in Texas media outlets about the Lt. Gov’s use of blackface in college, sexist comments towards women, and inappropriate groping in years gone by. With the state party backing Seidel’s spawn, the Lieutenant Governor’s career was destroyed, losing in the primary 33 to 56 and retiring into obscurity after being pressured to resign by Governor Pender. This would cement Sutton’s iron stranglehold on Texas' political landscape, his son winning a convincing victory over a generic democrat and his influence now permeating both Senate Seats, The Governor’s Mansion, and most of the House delegation.

Now, its 2007, and an open national primary on the Republican side is leaving Seidel scratching his head and wondering which horse to back, with nobody yet catching his eye. With his close friend Tripp Baylor running on the Democratic side and a dissatisfaction with Cush settling deeply within him, some wonder if Seidel will endorse anyone at all. Only time will tell.
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Racial background and Languages: Seidel is of German and Irish ancestry, and while his red hair had darkened with age, he is still quite proud of his heritage, paying genealogists to trace both sides of his family tree back as far as they could go. While Seidel is not fluent in any languages other than English, he has picked up a little bit of Spanish both in the course of his business in Mexico and via his wife.

Prominent Corporations, Net Worth, Residential Properties: While the Seidel Corporation owns a plethora of entities scattered across the entire spectrum of business and finance, the most prominent and successful ventures have been in Sportswear, Publishing, and the Toy market. Astylos, a luxury sportswear brand promoted and worn by the Cowboys and numerous other individuals and teams across the sports world, is the most financially prosperous of the three, raking in billions of dollars in revenue a year and providing the Seidels and their associates with the bulk of their wealth. Long Reach Publishing Co., a self described "freedom based" publisher of both fiction and right-wing political literature, has gained significant market share for publishing novels and manifestos that many other publishers have passed on, at times resulting in success, as was the case with the critically acclaimed "Valero Murders" series, and sometimes resulting in controversy, as was the case when the group published a conservative author's book which included racist caricatures and anti-Semitic remarks (the book would be pulled from publication after its author allegedly violated their contract). The third entity, and surprisingly most interesting to Seidel, is Springboard a toy company most known for its sports-related toys, foam guns, and athletic action figures, which have recently expanded to a line of prominent female athletes. Of the three, this is where Seidel takes the most hands on role, and it is where his non-estranged daughter is being groomed for business. Sutton Seidel's net worth is most widely estimated to be somewhere between 9 and 10 Billion Dollars, though various estimates have ballparked figures slightly higher or lower. The family had residences in 9 of the 50 States (Texas, Arkansas, Louisiana, California, New York, Washington, Virginia, North Carolina, and Illinois) as well as Ireland, Mexico, Germany, Spain, and The Philippines.

Spouse, Children, Pets: Mariana Carmen Seidel (née; Hernandez) was born on February 8th, 1966 in Cancun, Mexico, the daughter of a tour guide and a server. She is a homemaker, spending most of her time looking after the Seidel children, having been accepted by Shawn and Chloe as a motherly figure. She is also considering spearheading a Seidel Corp. backed foray into the hospitality industry. She has been married to Sutton since May 7th, 1996.

Shawn Tyler Seidel was born on August 1st, 1975, in Austin, Texas. He attended the University of Texas at Austin and received a bachelor's degree in political science before attending law school at Yale. After spending three years in the legal division of the Seidel Corporation, Shawn would run for Congress in Texas' 4th Congressional District with the help of his father and win. In 2006, he would be thrust into an unexpected race for U.S. Senate, and again on the basis of his name he was carried into office. He is unmarried. His mother is Sutton Seidel's deceased wife.

Chloe Hannah Seidel was born on October 3rd, 1979, in Miami, Florida. She attended the University of Texas at Austin and received a bachelor's degree in engineering before assuming a position within the corporate ranks of Springboard. She is currently dating Mark O'Sullivan, an Irish national and son of the Irish ambassador to the United States.

Julia Mary Kitts was born on March 30th, 1981 in New York, New York. She is completely estranged from her father and has no contact with him of any kind. She took the name of her maternal grandparents upon her adoption by them and is the beneficiary of assets granted to the family in the settled civil lawsuit following the death of her mother. She attended Florida State University and graduated with a degree in sociology. She is currently employed as a caseworker in the Florida child protective services system and is unmarried.

Richard Orrin Chase-Seidel was born on January 10th, 1987 in Los Angeles, California. He is the son of Sutton Seidel and Actress Penelope Chase-Winston, born as the result of an affair had by the couple in the mid 80's. Sutton Seidel legally adopted his son in 1993 and is on good terms with his mother. Richard currently attends UCLA and is pursuing a degree in interior design. He is unmarried.

Rodrigo Manuel Seidel was born on November 3, 1990, in Cancun, Mexico. He is the son of Sutton Seidel and his then maid and current wife, Mariana Seidel. He was legally recognized and adopted by Sutton in 1993 and was raised in Seidel's primary residence in the United States. He currently attends a private high school in the Dallas-Fort Worth Metropolitan area.

The Seidel family owns a number of pets at various residences, though the domestic companions closest to Sutton's heart are his two Tibetan Mastiffs, Otto and Ellie, who have been a part of the family for 6 years.

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NS Nation Name: Vaquas

Character Name: Shawn Tyler Seidel

Character Gender: Male

Character Age: 30

Character Height: 6’2

Character Weight: 175 lbs

Character Position/Role/Job: United States Senator from Texas (2007 - Present)
Congressman from Texas’ 4th Congressional District (2005 - 2007)
Corporate Attorney (2000 - 2005)

Character Country/State of Birth: Texas

Character State of Residence: "Texas" (Really DC)

Character Party Affiliation: Republican

Faceclaim: Brian Sims, preferably younger
Main Strengths:

My father will hear about this: While it may be tempting to mess with the junior Senator from Texas, making an enemy of him would more likely than not bring one of the most powerful influencers in Republican politics down on your neck like an executioner’s axe. Not something most would seek out in a town where most people have secrets they don’t want exposed.

The A-Team: Senator Seidel is surrounded by an extraordinary staff of PR experts, stylists, speechwriters and others who make sure that the image he projects is one of confidence, capability, and conservatism. They’re getting paid good money to make sure not a single hair is out of place, not a single word off script, and it has paid off.

What a nice young man: As a result of his careful manipulation, the perception of the Senator is that he is a nice young man, adding a youthful and charismatic touch to the people of Texas’ congressional representation and making him not only popular back home for now, but widely seen as attractive and a sought after bachelor.
Main Weaknesses:

Daddy’s boy: Shawn, relatively new in Washington, is widely perceived as the voting arm of his father in the U.S. Senate, and as such he is mocked in some circles, feared in others, and treated in a lukewarm manner by most. This has also preemptively damaged his relationships with Democrats, many of whom view his father as a cancer on American democracy or at best a significant political foe.

Thrown into the deep end: Shawn Seidel has no idea how Washington is supposed to work. He can get through functions, smile and wave, work through meetings and press conferences, but the court intrigue of Washington is completely lost on him, rendering him somewhat vulnerable to those sorts of maneuverings- provided his dad doesn’t find out.

Skeletons in the Closet: If you hooked Shawn Seidel up to a polygraph and asked him if he was a completely heterosexual man, he would probably fail the test, or at least refuse to take it. Now, polygraphs are wrong all the time, not an accurate measure of anything, but that’s certainly an interesting fact. A couple of the men he has known in the past definitely think so, anyways.
Biography: Shawn Tyler Seidel was born on August 1st, 1975 in Austin, Texas to Sutton and Lillian Sedel. Born into comfort and luxury, Shawn wanted for nothing, idolizing his father as a great hero in his early childhood and hoping to one day follow in his footsteps as a professional athlete. This perception would warp as the elder Seidel began spending less and less time with his children, but Shawn would always maintain a positive perception of his father, his own identity confused and unsure in the shadow of such an accomplished athlete and businessperson and his mother doing her best to hide the dark history that preceded his dad’s success. Attending private schools the entirety of his childhood, Shawn would be popular, but never leader of the pack, more comfortable doing as he was told then venturing out on his own and taking initiative. As the years went on, Shawn realized a few things about himself that he would keep hidden, and discarded a few dreams which seemed unrealistic given his position in the social hierarchy and the expectations levied on him as the oldest son and presumed heir to a vast fortune.

When the incident occurred at the Grand Canyon involving his mother’s death, Shawn, having not seen what occurred due to being preoccupied with a lizard racing across a rock, believed his father and middle sister’s accounting of events, viewing the occurrence as a horrible and avoidable accident rather than any act of malice on the part of his father. He was traumatized by the event, undergoing therapy and developing a bizarre feeling of guilt for having not saved his mother from her fall, or even fallen himself in her place. His father, sobered and more present in his life now, would take a more active role, encouraging his son’s participation in high school basketball and enforcing his consistent church attendance, much to the younger Seidel’s chagrin. Shawn would graduate with decent grades and attend his father’s Alma Mater, UT-Austin, joining the same fraternity his dad had been a part of and joining the university’s basketball team, though he was never an exceptional player. Eschewing a degree in business first to pursue philosophy, Shawn would be talked into instead majoring in political science, a pursuit which he would take to well despite no real passion existing for the subject. While Shawn would have several girlfriends throughout college, no relationship lasted longer than 6 months.

Graduating in 1997, Shawn would be pushed by a professor of his to attend law school, his father’s wealth and connections allowing him to attend Yale, where he would struggle, but make it through with the help of a good friend. Upon graduation, he would be placed within the structure of the Seidel Corporation, familiarizing himself with its legal department and often accompanying his father to business meetings and political events. He would have a brief relationship with the daughter of a Seidel Corp. board member, but the relationship would be cut short following her pregnancy, which she would abort over his objections.

In 2003, Shawn would be approached by his father with a seemingly ridiculous proposition: run for elected office, and serve in the United States Congress. While he initially opposed the idea, his father’s insistence made it difficult to refuse, and he would eventually throw his hat into the ring for the open seat, winning it easily over a small town mayor due to a combination of natural charisma and a fuckload of his dad’s cash funneling into the campaign. Once sworn in, Shawn was surrounded by a crack team hired by his father to prune and construct his image as a young, charismatic and vibrant rising star in Texas politics, as opposed to what he was in reality, an unengaged nepotism hire. His single term in the house was completely uneventful, towing the party line and mostly appearing on cable and talk radio to boost his profile rather than legislating.

He would be blindsided in 2005 when his father would essentially coerce him into running for Senate, assuring his son that victory was guaranteed but creating a small rift between the two as the younger Seidel recognized his lack of experience and took issue with being forced into a position where his every move would be under heavy scrutiny. Ultimately succumbing to his father’s wishes, Shawn ran an effective, though not terribly inspired, campaign, and won the primary largely due to his father’s smearing of his only significant opponent, the state’s Lieutenant Governor. He would coast to victory in the general election, and take office in January 2007 as the youngest member of the U.S. Senate.

Since taking the oath, Shawn has essentially acted as an extension of his father, towing the party line on issues in lockstep with his dad’s and breaking with it on the issues where the elder Seidel disagreed with party orthodoxy. Out of his depth and treading water with few friends, Shawn faces an internal crisis, wondering if he should attempt to carve out his own identity away from his father, or hold back from biting the hand that has fed him his entire life. One thing is for sure, with a presidential election underway and Washington beginning to buzz with activity, Shawn is going to have a lot of choices to make.
Other Info:

Racial Background and Languages: Just like his father, Shawn has Irish and German heritage, though he also has some Danish influence on his mother’s side. Shawn studied Spanish in college, and has a decent grasp on the language.

Spouse, Children, Pets: Shawn has never been married and has no children, though he is an eligible bachelor in Washington and has an active dating life. His primary residence is the Seidel home in Northern Virginia, spending most of his time there and in DC instead of back in Texas. It is there that he keeps a rather eccentric animal as his pet: a domesticated de-scented Skunk, 3 years of age, named Stripe, an animal with dubious legal status in the State of Virginia.

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Former Republican. Liberal Internationalist. Pick your battles.

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