Blade and Musket: 19th Century RP (OOC) (Open)

[Madmunch]

Nation Application

NS Name: Arvenia
Nation Name: Dutch Commonwealth (Dutch: Nederlandse Gemenebest)
Government: The Dutch Commonwealth is a federal parliamentary republic with Stadtholder (Stadhouder) as head of state. From 1588 to 1740, it was more confederal and heavily dominated by the House of Orange, who held the title of Stadtholder. During that time, it was known as the Republic of the Seven United Netherlands or simply the Dutch Republic. Once 1740 rolled in, a new constitution, mostly inspired by British politics, was written down to change the political structure and turn the Netherlands into a more federal parliamentary republic, as well as formally renaming it to the Dutch Commonwealth. With this change, the relatively unimportant Grand Pensionary (Raadpensionaris) was replaced by a more powerful Prime Minister (Premier or Minister-President), who is accompanied by the Council of Ministers (Raad van Ministers), which had replaced the Council of State (Raad van State). As a result, the Stadtholder was relegated to a more ceremonial role (like a constitutional monarch or a ceremonial president), while still being technically the Commander-in-Chief of the Dutch military. On the other hand, more political power has been given to both the States-General (Staten-Generaal) and the newly-formed Council of Ministers. The States-General consists of the upper First Chamber (Eerste Kamer der Staten-Generaal), who represents the seven Dutch provinces, and the lower Second Chamber (Tweede Kamer der Staten-Generaal), which represents the general population. The First Chamber is headed by a President (Voorzitter van de Eerste Kamer), while the Second Chamber is headed by a Speaker (Voorzitter van de Tweede Kamer). The Dutch Commonwealth has currently two opposing parties, the conservative Orange Party (Oranje Partij) and the liberal Blue Party (Blauwe Partij). The former advocates for the Stadtholder to have more political power, as well as turn the Netherlands into a monarchy, while the latter advocates for the States-General to remain powerful, as well as make the Netherlands more republican. The Dutch Commonwealth is seemingly more liberal than the rest of Europe, which is evident by the legal use of cannabis and a relative lack of hostility towards Jews. The current Stadtholder is Prince William V of Orange, while the current Prime Minister is Rutger Jan Schimmelpenninck, a member of the Blue Party.

Territory: Netherlands, Suriname, Panama, Netherlands Antilles, Northeast Brazil, Pará, Tocantins, Dutch Gold Coast, Eastern Cape, Maldives, Laccadives, Maluku Islands, Lesser Sunda Islands and Western New Guinea
Map Color: Orange
Population: 1,880,500 (homeland only)

Military: The Dutch military consists of the Dutch Army (Landmacht) and the Dutch Navy (Zeemacht). There are currently 200,000 military personnel in the Dutch Commonwealth, which would be 120,000 in the Army and 80,000 in the Navy. The Army is composed of Dutch troops and foreign mercenaries, who are usually armed with muskets, pistols, swords and bombs. The Army also has horses and cannons. The Navy is composed of Dutch sailors and foreign volunteers. Dutch naval vessels range from a few ships-of-the-line and frigates to many gunboats. The Navy is also currently working on "underwater vessels". The Dutch military operates both at home and overseas. Regardless, the Dutch military seems to have better equipment and quality following political reforms in 1740. Also, each Dutch city possesses a police-like guard force usually called "schutterij".

History: Same as IRL, albeit there were certain exceptions between 1588 and 1740. In 1610, the Netherlands, then known as the Dutch Republic, colonized parts of modern-day Indonesia through the Dutch East India Company, which led to conflict with the New Majaphit Sultanate. In 1648, the Netherlands were able to defeat Portuguese troops in the Battle of Guararapes. Six years later, after more Dutch victories, the Treaty of Mauritsstad was signed, which gave the Netherlands more territories in Brazil. These territories include the present-day states of Pará and Tocantins, as well as most of Northeast Brazil. The Netherlands later went on to colonize Panama, Maldives, Laccadives and parts of South Africa.

In 1740, due to political instability, the Netherlands went through a series of political reforms called the "Blue Revolution" (Blauwe Revolutie). These reforms changed Dutch politics forever. The Stadtholder now has less power, while the States-General became a powerful institution and set up two chambers within it. The Grand Pensionary was replaced by a new position called Prime Minister. Both the Dutch military and the Dutch economy improved, while the Dutch Republic was renamed to the Dutch Commonwealth. However, as a result, conflict brewed between the supporters of the Stadtholder and the supporters of the Blue Revolution, thus creating two political factions. These are the conservative "Orange Party" and the liberal "Blue Party". Ever since, power has shifted between both factions through election.

Now, it is 1800 and the Dutch Commonwealth is prepared for a brand new century, as there will be many challenges coming along the way.

Any further info: Nope
Do you acknowledge and understand the rules: Yes

BladeAndMusket (Do not remove)

Application finished!

Once again I reiterate that the British controls the Cape of Good Hope in it's entirety. Not just the Western part or province.

EDIT

So your claim on the Eastern Cape is a big no-no for me unfortunately

[Hanovereich]

Nation Application

NS Name: Arvenia
Nation Name: Dutch Commonwealth (Dutch: Nederlandse Gemenebest)
Government: The Dutch Commonwealth is a federal parliamentary republic with Stadtholder (Stadhouder) as head of state. From 1588 to 1740, it was more confederal and heavily dominated by the House of Orange, who held the title of Stadtholder. During that time, it was known as the Republic of the Seven United Netherlands or simply the Dutch Republic. Once 1740 rolled in, a new constitution, mostly inspired by British politics, was written down to change the political structure and turn the Netherlands into a more federal parliamentary republic, as well as formally renaming it to the Dutch Commonwealth. With this change, the relatively unimportant Grand Pensionary (Raadpensionaris) was replaced by a more powerful Prime Minister (Premier or Minister-President), who is accompanied by the Council of Ministers (Raad van Ministers), which had replaced the Council of State (Raad van State). As a result, the Stadtholder was relegated to a more ceremonial role (like a constitutional monarch or a ceremonial president), while still being technically the Commander-in-Chief of the Dutch military. On the other hand, more political power has been given to both the States-General (Staten-Generaal) and the newly-formed Council of Ministers. The States-General consists of the upper First Chamber (Eerste Kamer der Staten-Generaal), who represents the seven Dutch provinces, and the lower Second Chamber (Tweede Kamer der Staten-Generaal), which represents the general population. The First Chamber is headed by a President (Voorzitter van de Eerste Kamer), while the Second Chamber is headed by a Speaker (Voorzitter van de Tweede Kamer). The Dutch Commonwealth has currently two opposing parties, the conservative Orange Party (Oranje Partij) and the liberal Blue Party (Blauwe Partij). The former advocates for the Stadtholder to have more political power, as well as turn the Netherlands into a monarchy, while the latter advocates for the States-General to remain powerful, as well as make the Netherlands more republican. The Dutch Commonwealth is seemingly more liberal than the rest of Europe, which is evident by the legal use of cannabis and a relative lack of hostility towards Jews. The current Stadtholder is Prince William V of Orange, while the current Prime Minister is Rutger Jan Schimmelpenninck, a member of the Blue Party.

Territory: Netherlands, Suriname, Panama, Netherlands Antilles, Northeast Brazil, Pará, Tocantins, Dutch Gold Coast, Eastern Cape, Maldives, Laccadives, Maluku Islands, Lesser Sunda Islands and Western New Guinea
Map Color: Orange
Population: 1,880,500 (homeland only)

Military: The Dutch military consists of the Dutch Army (Landmacht) and the Dutch Navy (Zeemacht). There are currently 200,000 military personnel in the Dutch Commonwealth, which would be 120,000 in the Army and 80,000 in the Navy. The Army is composed of Dutch troops and foreign mercenaries, who are usually armed with muskets, pistols, swords and bombs. The Army also has horses and cannons. The Navy is composed of Dutch sailors and foreign volunteers. Dutch naval vessels range from a few ships-of-the-line and frigates to many gunboats. The Navy is also currently working on "underwater vessels". The Dutch military operates both at home and overseas. Regardless, the Dutch military seems to have better equipment and quality following political reforms in 1740. Also, each Dutch city possesses a police-like guard force usually called "schutterij".

History: Same as IRL, albeit there were certain exceptions between 1588 and 1740. In 1610, the Netherlands, then known as the Dutch Republic, colonized parts of modern-day Indonesia through the Dutch East India Company, which led to conflict with the New Majaphit Sultanate. In 1648, the Netherlands were able to defeat Portuguese troops in the Battle of Guararapes. Six years later, after more Dutch victories, the Treaty of Mauritsstad was signed, which gave the Netherlands more territories in Brazil. These territories include the present-day states of Pará and Tocantins, as well as most of Northeast Brazil. The Netherlands later went on to colonize Panama, Maldives, Laccadives and parts of South Africa.

In 1740, due to political instability, the Netherlands went through a series of political reforms called the "Blue Revolution" (Blauwe Revolutie). These reforms changed Dutch politics forever. The Stadtholder now has less power, while the States-General became a powerful institution and set up two chambers within it. The Grand Pensionary was replaced by a new position called Prime Minister. Both the Dutch military and the Dutch economy improved, while the Dutch Republic was renamed to the Dutch Commonwealth. However, as a result, conflict brewed between the supporters of the Stadtholder and the supporters of the Blue Revolution, thus creating two political factions. These are the conservative "Orange Party" and the liberal "Blue Party". Ever since, power has shifted between both factions through election.

Now, it is 1800 and the Dutch Commonwealth is prepared for a brand new century, as there will be many challenges coming along the way.

Any further info: Nope
Do you acknowledge and understand the rules: Yes

BladeAndMusket (Do not remove)

It looks good, accepted, though without the Eastern Cape.

[Ovstylap]

I'm actually fine with everything except the mainland Indian colonies

I've been operating in the IC on the expectation that Great Britain was the sole dominant force on the Indian peninsular. And that they'll eventually (hopefully) consume it once they've dealt with all the internal hoohas going on right now. So having remaining French presence onboard will sort of throw that in the works, as I would have written differently if I knew they were still there in India. Imo, I think it's best to assume that the details of the Treaty of Paris were the same as OTL save that the British refused to give back the regions they conquered in India.

As for the rest, as long as your claims don't include anything I've already listed in my app (which doesn't look like so far), It's all good.

On another note. Really appreciate you checking with us first on this stuff

EDIT

Oh and loving that there is still some type of monarchy present after the revolution. This will really make interactions quite interesting I believe

Thank you very much for your approvals, I shall amend my reservation to represent your request that France does not officially run any colonies/outposts. Would it be fair to agree that perhaps those towns and ports have a slight degree of autonomy, or perhaps there's a little bit of resentment at British taxes and tariffs, which we could potentially use as a route for a little bit of RP on the subcontinent even if it's more minor things such as smuggling rings, protests and the like?

The French colonial empire is quite interesting due to the number of changes the various colonies went through being occupied repeatedly and the like. I believe at the Treaty of Paris for instance, Guadeloupe was considered so important (i.e rich) that the French ceded their claims in modern day Canada in exchange for Britain returning Guadeloupe.
Perhaps we could say that Britain compensated for its takeover of those towns by refusing to impose new taxes on them for say ten years, and/or there is a Representative Board of French Interests or something along those lines, with a few delegates to try and represent the interests of French speakers and traders in the region. So it would be another interest group rather than an actual direct threat to Britain's dominance?

And of course I want to run these things by you guys! I want it to not contradict anyone's lore. Please let me know what you think Madmunch!

[Arvenia]

Nation Application

NS Name: Arvenia
Nation Name: Dutch Commonwealth (Dutch: Nederlandse Gemenebest)
Government: The Dutch Commonwealth is a federal parliamentary republic with Stadtholder (Stadhouder) as head of state. From 1588 to 1740, it was more confederal and heavily dominated by the House of Orange, who held the title of Stadtholder. During that time, it was known as the Republic of the Seven United Netherlands or simply the Dutch Republic. Once 1740 rolled in, a new constitution, mostly inspired by British politics, was written down to change the political structure and turn the Netherlands into a more federal parliamentary republic, as well as formally renaming it to the Dutch Commonwealth. With this change, the relatively unimportant Grand Pensionary (Raadpensionaris) was replaced by a more powerful Prime Minister (Premier or Minister-President), who is accompanied by the Council of Ministers (Raad van Ministers), which had replaced the Council of State (Raad van State). As a result, the Stadtholder was relegated to a more ceremonial role (like a constitutional monarch or a ceremonial president), while still being technically the Commander-in-Chief of the Dutch military. On the other hand, more political power has been given to both the States-General (Staten-Generaal) and the newly-formed Council of Ministers. The States-General consists of the upper First Chamber (Eerste Kamer der Staten-Generaal), who represents the seven Dutch provinces, and the lower Second Chamber (Tweede Kamer der Staten-Generaal), which represents the general population. The First Chamber is headed by a President (Voorzitter van de Eerste Kamer), while the Second Chamber is headed by a Speaker (Voorzitter van de Tweede Kamer). The Dutch Commonwealth has currently two opposing parties, the conservative Orange Party (Oranje Partij) and the liberal Blue Party (Blauwe Partij). The former advocates for the Stadtholder to have more political power, as well as turn the Netherlands into a monarchy, while the latter advocates for the States-General to remain powerful, as well as make the Netherlands more republican. The Dutch Commonwealth is seemingly more liberal than the rest of Europe, which is evident by the legal use of cannabis and a relative lack of hostility towards Jews. The current Stadtholder is Prince William V of Orange, while the current Prime Minister is Rutger Jan Schimmelpenninck, a member of the Blue Party.

Territory: Netherlands, Suriname, Panama, Netherlands Antilles, Northeast Brazil, Pará, Tocantins, Dutch Gold Coast, Eastern Cape, Maldives, Laccadives, Maluku Islands, Lesser Sunda Islands and Western New Guinea
Map Color: Orange
Population: 1,880,500 (homeland only)

Military: The Dutch military consists of the Dutch Army (Landmacht) and the Dutch Navy (Zeemacht). There are currently 200,000 military personnel in the Dutch Commonwealth, which would be 120,000 in the Army and 80,000 in the Navy. The Army is composed of Dutch troops and foreign mercenaries, who are usually armed with muskets, pistols, swords and bombs. The Army also has horses and cannons. The Navy is composed of Dutch sailors and foreign volunteers. Dutch naval vessels range from a few ships-of-the-line and frigates to many gunboats. The Navy is also currently working on "underwater vessels". The Dutch military operates both at home and overseas. Regardless, the Dutch military seems to have better equipment and quality following political reforms in 1740. Also, each Dutch city possesses a police-like guard force usually called "schutterij".

History: Same as IRL, albeit there were certain exceptions between 1588 and 1740. In 1610, the Netherlands, then known as the Dutch Republic, colonized parts of modern-day Indonesia through the Dutch East India Company, which led to conflict with the New Majaphit Sultanate. In 1648, the Netherlands were able to defeat Portuguese troops in the Battle of Guararapes. Six years later, after more Dutch victories, the Treaty of Mauritsstad was signed, which gave the Netherlands more territories in Brazil. These territories include the present-day states of Pará and Tocantins, as well as most of Northeast Brazil. The Netherlands later went on to colonize Panama, Maldives, Laccadives and parts of South Africa.

In 1740, due to political instability, the Netherlands went through a series of political reforms called the "Blue Revolution" (Blauwe Revolutie). These reforms changed Dutch politics forever. The Stadtholder now has less power, while the States-General became a powerful institution and set up two chambers within it. The Grand Pensionary was replaced by a new position called Prime Minister. Both the Dutch military and the Dutch economy improved, while the Dutch Republic was renamed to the Dutch Commonwealth. However, as a result, conflict brewed between the supporters of the Stadtholder and the supporters of the Blue Revolution, thus creating two political factions. These are the conservative "Orange Party" and the liberal "Blue Party". Ever since, power has shifted between both factions through election.

Now, it is 1800 and the Dutch Commonwealth is prepared for a brand new century, as there will be many challenges coming along the way.

Any further info: Nope
Do you acknowledge and understand the rules: Yes

BladeAndMusket (Do not remove)

It looks good, accepted, though without the Eastern Cape.

Okay. But at least I got a part of Brazil!

[Ovstylap]

Okay. But at least I got a part of Brazil!

Just checking that your claims in South America don't make the French claim on French Guiana obsolete right?

[Arvenia]

Okay. But at least I got a part of Brazil!

Just checking that your claims in South America don't make the French claim on French Guiana obsolete right?

Nope, France still has French Guiana.

[Madmunch]

Thank you very much for your approvals, I shall amend my reservation to represent your request that France does not officially run any colonies/outposts. Would it be fair to agree that perhaps those towns and ports have a slight degree of autonomy, or perhaps there's a little bit of resentment at British taxes and tariffs, which we could potentially use as a route for a little bit of RP on the subcontinent even if it's more minor things such as smuggling rings, protests and the like?

The French colonial empire is quite interesting due to the number of changes the various colonies went through being occupied repeatedly and the like. I believe at the Treaty of Paris for instance, Guadeloupe was considered so important (i.e rich) that the French ceded their claims in modern day Canada in exchange for Britain returning Guadeloupe.
Perhaps we could say that Britain compensated for its takeover of those towns by refusing to impose new taxes on them for say ten years, and/or there is a Representative Board of French Interests or something along those lines, with a few delegates to try and represent the interests of French speakers and traders in the region. So it would be another interest group rather than an actual direct threat to Britain's dominance?

And of course I want to run these things by you guys! I want it to not contradict anyone's lore. Please let me know what you think Madmunch!

Lol resentment of any kind is more or less a given right now with how the EIC has been treating India the last few decades.

How about both. No new imposes of taxes for the following decade after the signing of the treaty as well as having a French Board represent French mercantile interests. You could also have a French Board representing their interests in their former Indian colonies as well. I think this opens up more opportunities for further interactions. If you like, we can even collab on some French interference with current events going on in India.

Example, maybe the French are somehow secretly supporting all and any resistance against British occupation on the peninsular. Currently, Great Britain might be facing the coming of the 2nd Anglo-Maratha War as well as a possible insurrection with Pazhassi Raja and his partisans. So yeah, can spice things up alittle with French involvement perhaps. But I leave it up to you in this regard. Just let me know if u have any more ideas that can make things fun around there. I'm all ears

[Ovstylap]

Lol resentment of any kind is more or less a given right now with how the EIC has been treating India the last few decades.

How about both. No new imposes of taxes for the following decade after the signing of the treaty as well as having a French Board represent French mercantile interests. You could also have a French Board representing their interests in their former Indian colonies as well. I think this opens up more opportunities for further interactions. If you like, we can even collab on some French interference with current events going on in India.

Example, maybe the French are somehow secretly supporting all and any resistance against British occupation on the peninsular. Currently, Great Britain might be facing the coming of the 2nd Anglo-Maratha War as well as a possible insurrection with Pazhassi Raja and his partisans. So yeah, can spice things up alittle with French involvement perhaps. But I leave it up to you in this regard. Just let me know if u have any more ideas that can make things fun around there. I'm all ears

Sounds fantastic, and much more plausible than the random idea I had previously of a French merchant trying to stir up trouble among the sepoys! It'll be good to have different interactions between France and Britain in different parts of the world, with some being aligned to whichever government, and if there's any regime changes there'd also be the Revolutionary or Royalist exiles/loyalists abroad!

[Madmunch]

Sounds fantastic, and much more plausible than the random idea I had previously of a French merchant trying to stir up trouble among the sepoys! It'll be good to have different interactions between France and Britain in different parts of the world, with some being aligned to whichever government, and if there's any regime changes there'd also be the Revolutionary or Royalist exiles/loyalists abroad!

I agree. The fact France might still have a monarchy around is in itself really interesting and I think will open up to some really unique alt events for this timeline. Can't wait for u post once yer been accepted!

[New Kowloon Bay]

Sounds fantastic, and much more plausible than the random idea I had previously of a French merchant trying to stir up trouble among the sepoys! It'll be good to have different interactions between France and Britain in different parts of the world, with some being aligned to whichever government, and if there's any regime changes there'd also be the Revolutionary or Royalist exiles/loyalists abroad!

I agree. The fact France might still have a monarchy around is in itself really interesting and I think will open up to some really unique alt events for this timeline. Can't wait for u post once yer been accepted!

Hey Madmunch, how are we going to RP the meeting between the East and West?

[Madmunch]

I agree. The fact France might still have a monarchy around is in itself really interesting and I think will open up to some really unique alt events for this timeline. Can't wait for u post once yer been accepted!

Hey Madmunch, how are we going to RP the meeting between the East and West?

Would u like to TG it out later and then combined post it ICly? Or prefer to just stick to individual IC posts?

[Hanovereich]

I work on GMT. And yes, you can move to France if there is no French player after today.

Thank you very much. For the purposes of easy reference I'll place my reservation here in case the expiry time occurs in the few hours after I've left. Of course I'll stick with Bavaria if Imperial does renew before then.

Reservation

NS Name: Ovstylap
Nation Name: Kingdom of France
Territory:
Europe:All remaining mainland French territory.
The Carribean: Hispaniola (today's Haiti and the Dominican Republic, assuming Spain still gives the Dominican Republic part in 1795). Guadeloupe, Martinique, and Saint Lucia (Again assuming no occupation by the British as there was no First Coalition War yet).
South America: French Guiana (assuming the Dutch haven't taken it).
Africa: Trading posts and settlements in Senegal (1624), various outposts and settlements in Madagascar.
India and Indian Ocean: In OTL the French colonies of Chandernagore (1673), Pondichéry (1674), Yanam (1723), Mahe (1725), and Karikal (1739) were all returned to France after the Seven Years War. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_co ... 1-1739.png
Île de Bourbon (Réunion), Isle de France (Mauritius), and the Seychelles in the Indian Ocean.

Any further info: This will only be if the current France reservation is not renewed. I know that I shall need the permissions of the relevant colonial powers to retain these given colonies/to confirm they haven't already been fully claimed, and at least to acknowledge the presence of French settlers/trading interests there if they have been claimed.

This France is currently a constitutional monarchy, following a more moderate revolution due to political intricacies and the actions of key characters/absence of historical figures for given reasons, and as such did not alienate the European powers to the point of war, even though there is concern about the extent of Revolutionary influence.
Do you acknowledge and understand the rules: Yes

BladeAndMusket (do not remove)

Madmunch, Arvenia, Tysoania, please can you confirm if you are okay for France to currently own the signposted territories, and if not please do let me know and I can amend this today or after the weekend assuming Imperial does not renew their France application. Thank you!

Let me just put this here so I can remember it.

[Cetacea]

I agree. The fact France might still have a monarchy around is in itself really interesting and I think will open up to some really unique alt events for this timeline. Can't wait for u post once yer been accepted!

Hey Madmunch, how are we going to RP the meeting between the East and West?

here come the dreaded British!

The New Majapahit Sultanate already trade with India and so will engage with the British and their sepoy at Pinang and include some of the local resident Chinese merchants in those discussions. Then of course we will offer to escort the British through the Malacca Straits and via the Sea of Champa to Canton - I am assuming that the Canton system is in place.

There has been significant Chinese presence on the Malay Peninsula for few centuries, and a feature of the Malay Chinese is Kongsi (dialect/clan associations) that provide commercial and social support and protection for the resident chinese community.
The covert and sometimes outright criminal activities of these Kongsi is an open secret which the New Majapahit Sultanate tolerates because it helps maintain stability in the Chinese community and provides a means to gain insider news and rumours about affairs in Imperial China.
I'll definitely be using them to keep track of things in China - so feel free to use them too

[Greater Liverpool]

My first post is up

[American Pere Housh]

Map updated with Austria and a bigger British Canada.

I would like to challenge that ruling as I already mentioned American troops there plus I also mentioned American ownership of said territory in my first post.

[Madmunch]

Map updated with Austria and a bigger British Canada.

I would like to challenge that ruling as I already mentioned American troops there plus I also mentioned American ownership of said territory in my first post.

My app which was posted and accepted before you came onboard clearly already stated my claims. Yes the map wasn't colored accordingly and that I admit is my mistake for failing to do so properly. But I had a feeling I might have missed out something on that regard, which was why I took the extra liberty to write down some of my territorial claims beforehand, just to be sure.

So you should have checked with me first or with OP before posting what you posted. But unfortunately you didn't

[Tysoania]

Map updated with Austria and a bigger British Canada.

I would like to challenge that ruling as I already mentioned American troops there plus I also mentioned American ownership of said territory in my first post.

If the US would like to support their side with force of arms, don't forget that Spain helped out in the American Revolution and would probably be willing to pitch in again. Anything to keep the rivals down.

[American Pere Housh]

I would like to challenge that ruling as I already mentioned American troops there plus I also mentioned American ownership of said territory in my first post.

If the US would like to support their side with force of arms, don't forget that Spain helped out in the American Revolution and would probably be willing to pitch in again. Anything to keep the rivals down.

Thank you for being a great ally.

I would like to challenge that ruling as I already mentioned American troops there plus I also mentioned American ownership of said territory in my first post.

My app which was posted and accepted before you came onboard clearly already stated my claims. Yes the map wasn't colored accordingly and that I admit is my mistake for failing to do so properly. But I had a feeling I might have missed out something on that regard, which was why I took the extra liberty to write down some of my territorial claims beforehand, just to be sure.

So you should have checked with me first or with OP before posting what you posted. But unfortunately you didn't

I'm laying claim to the territory so I guess the area is under dispute.

[Madmunch]

I'm laying claim to the territory so I guess the area is under dispute.

You can dispute it as you wish. As long as it's clear that the region is under British control right now.

[American Pere Housh]

I'm laying claim to the territory so I guess the area is under dispute.

You can dispute it as you wish. As long as it's clear that the region is under British control right now.

You won't start stealing my sailors like IRL, will you?

[Madmunch]

You can dispute it as you wish. As long as it's clear that the region is under British control right now.

You won't start stealing my sailors like IRL, will you?

And provide a proper justification or casus belli for America to declare war? don't see a reason why I should right now.

[Hanovereich]

Thank you very much. For the purposes of easy reference I'll place my reservation here in case the expiry time occurs in the few hours after I've left. Of course I'll stick with Bavaria if Imperial does renew before then.

Reservation

NS Name: Ovstylap
Nation Name: Kingdom of France
Territory:
Europe:All remaining mainland French territory.
The Carribean: Hispaniola (today's Haiti and the Dominican Republic, assuming Spain still gives the Dominican Republic part in 1795). Guadeloupe, Martinique, and Saint Lucia (Again assuming no occupation by the British as there was no First Coalition War yet).
South America: French Guiana (assuming the Dutch haven't taken it).
Africa: Trading posts and settlements in Senegal (1624), various outposts and settlements in Madagascar.
India and Indian Ocean: In OTL the French colonies of Chandernagore (1673), Pondichéry (1674), Yanam (1723), Mahe (1725), and Karikal (1739) were all returned to France after the Seven Years War. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_co ... 1-1739.png
Île de Bourbon (Réunion), Isle de France (Mauritius), and the Seychelles in the Indian Ocean.

Any further info: This will only be if the current France reservation is not renewed. I know that I shall need the permissions of the relevant colonial powers to retain these given colonies/to confirm they haven't already been fully claimed, and at least to acknowledge the presence of French settlers/trading interests there if they have been claimed.

This France is currently a constitutional monarchy, following a more moderate revolution due to political intricacies and the actions of key characters/absence of historical figures for given reasons, and as such did not alienate the European powers to the point of war, even though there is concern about the extent of Revolutionary influence.
Do you acknowledge and understand the rules: Yes

BladeAndMusket (do not remove)

Madmunch, Arvenia, Tysoania, please can you confirm if you are okay for France to currently own the signposted territories, and if not please do let me know and I can amend this today or after the weekend assuming Imperial does not renew their France application. Thank you!

Let me just put this here so I can remember it.

Looks like France is yours. Noted.

[Arvenia]

You can dispute it as you wish. As long as it's clear that the region is under British control right now.

You won't start stealing my sailors like IRL, will you?

Did the British actually steal American sailors in our timeline?

[New Kowloon Bay]

I hope the player who reserves Japan makes an application. It seems it would be fun to see how it goes.

[Madmunch]

Did the British actually steal American sailors in our timeline?

Not this one no.

Also. Just a heads up. Had to make a slight edit and changed the name of my Lord Admiral into someone else. Realised I mistakenly used the same historical person as my envoy to the Sultanate which doesn't make sense as he was attending a cabinet meeting as well during that time