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Arvenia
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Postby Arvenia » Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:06 pm

Chewion wrote:
Arvenia wrote:Okay. Anyway, I'm sending the Czechoslovak Army to Sudan.

Ok, well right now the only place you can reliably go is Port Sudan.

Should I send in a CASA C-295 carrying Czechoslovak troops to Djibouti or Port Sudan? They will come to evacuate all Czechoslovak diplomats from Khartoum.
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Postby Chewion » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:28 pm

Arvenia wrote:
Chewion wrote:Ok, well right now the only place you can reliably go is Port Sudan.

Should I send in a CASA C-295 carrying Czechoslovak troops to Djibouti or Port Sudan? They will come to evacuate all Czechoslovak diplomats from Khartoum.

I would say send them to Djibouti until Port Sudan is fully secured.
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Postby Arvenia » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:29 pm

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Arvenia wrote:Should I send in a CASA C-295 carrying Czechoslovak troops to Djibouti or Port Sudan? They will come to evacuate all Czechoslovak diplomats from Khartoum.

I would say send them to Djibouti until Port Sudan is fully secured.

Okay.
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Postby American Pere Housh » Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:16 pm

Chewion wrote:
Arvenia wrote:Okay. Anyway, I'm sending the Czechoslovak Army to Sudan.

Ok, well right now the only place you can reliably go is Port Sudan.

I'm gonna send additional troops and equipment via sea in my next post so I should have that up sometime over the next few days.
Government Type: Militaristic Republic
Leader: President Alexander Jones
Prime Minister: Isabella Stuart-Jones
Secretary of Defense: Hitomi Izumi
Secretary of State: Eliza 'Vanny' Cortez
Time: 2023
Population: MT-450 million
Territory: All of North America, The Islands of the Caribbean and the Philippines

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Postby The Felan Federation » Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:39 am

American Pere Housh wrote:
Chewion wrote:Ok, well right now the only place you can reliably go is Port Sudan.

I'm gonna send additional troops and equipment via sea in my next post so I should have that up sometime over the next few days.


Still waiting...

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Postby Chewion » Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:38 am

The Felan Federation wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote:I'm gonna send additional troops and equipment via sea in my next post so I should have that up sometime over the next few days.


Still waiting...

Thanksgiving slowed everyone down.
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Postby Tsarstvo Alyaski » Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:56 am

So... Hello again! If you've seen anything about my nation before (Especially so the OOC dispatch), you might recognise that I am the same person that also controls the -United Nations Space Alliance-. If you didn't know before, well... Now you do!
When this RP was in it's original stages, I took interest in it and joined up as a relatively unknown nation, by the name of Timor-Leste! And, after a few months I'm interested in reinvigorating my P2tM experience (Though I have already done that by creating The Century that changed Everything), and... Well, I might as well join back here. Perhaps I joined and left too quickly before, so if you really want to, consider this application and potential joining as retribution for my actions previous, I guess!

Anyways, I'm not going to be joining back as Timor-Leste, as you'll see below. I'm interested in mixing things up, perhaps becoming a little more active with a more powerful, not to mention... Interesting nation (My historical changes will defo make it moreso :p )


NationStates Name: The Russian Empire (Tsarstvo Alyaski)


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República Popular de las Cuatro Regiones
The People's Republic of the Four Regions

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Nation (Shortened) Name: Tawantinsuyu, Las Cuatro Regiones, The Four Regions
(Unofficial, yet popularly used) Peru
Capital: Cusco
Territory: Map link
Population: 31,296,500
Official Language(s): Spanish, Quecha
Recognized Languages: Aymara, Various indigenous languages, English, French, Portuguese

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Head of State: Agustín Dengra Atenas




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Head of Government: Agustín Dengra Atenas


Legislature Name: Los Consejos Socialistas de las Cuatro Regiones
The Socialist Councils of the Four Regions
Party(s) in Power: Partido Social Consumista (44%), Nuevo Partido Demócrata (18%), Movimiento soviético de las cuatro regiones (13%) Movimiento Vanguardia del Pueblo (9%), Others (16%)


Okay, so I want to elaborate on how the political system of this new, Socialist Peru would work real quick... So, though I'll elaborate on this if needed and/or the moderators want to talk about this with me, I want to say for now (As to not bloat out this submission too much) that the new government works through Democratic centralism, where the people's votes for select policy, change, etc. translate directly. Argument and change to decision can only be made if a majority is not reached, otherwise all people and parties must adhere to the decision without conversation.


GDP (PPP): $304,718,000,000
GDP per Capita (PPP): $9,097
Currency: Inti
Military Information: Ejército Popular de las Cuatro Regiones
The Four Regions Popular Military

  • Manpower
    310,000 (Total)
    85,000 (Active)
    145,000 (Reserve)
    80,000 (Paramilitary)

La Guardia Revolucionaria
The Revolutionary Guard (Army)

  • Land Armaments
    60 (Tanks)
    500 (Armoured Vehicles)
    11 (Self Propelled Artillery)
    195 (Towed Artillery)
    40 (Rocket Projectors)


La Flota de las Cuatro Regiones
The Fleet of the Four Regions (Navy)

  • Naval Strength
    5 (Frigates)
    4 (Corvettes)
    4 (Submarines)
    8 (Patrol Vessels)


La fuerza aérea popular
The People's Airforce


  • Airforce power
    10 (Fighters/Interceptors)
    19 (Dedicated Attack)
    30 (Transport)
    45 (Trainers)
    8 (Special Mission)
    65 (Helicopters)
    9 (Attack Helicopters)


Alliances: Foro de São Paulo


History Changes:


General changes:
MRTA pursues a more aggressive and active campaign of destabilization within Peru, focusing on political assassination, chaotic aggression against governmental functions and the military, to facilitate the original goal to cause such a great and horrible reaction from the government that the Proletariat would be forced to consider the reality of the situation and actively pursue change. In addition, the rivalry between MRTA and Shining Path would be worse than OTL through the MRTA's actions to muscle in on the latter's operations, including expanding operations from urban centres to the countryside that Shining Path claimed great influence over. The violence that Shining Path would cause against both the MRTA, Government and common people would cause the Maoist Terrorist Group's downfall as the People and Government begin to brutally repress the group, only exarserbated by MRTA's use of scapegoating against their socialist rivals to deflect blame from themselves...

MRTA actions would cause the Government of Peru to begin brutal repression, which would succeed partly in reducing the terroristic actions of both Shining Path and MRTA, however even moreso than OTL would cause the people, who become incriminated, repressed, imprisoned and killed even so would protest, peacefully and violently (Especially so in the later years of the Peruvian Government's collapse) against the Government.

17th of May, 1991: MRTA terrorists, spurred on by President Alberto Fujimori's repressive and hostile actions towards the group, would successfully ambush Región Militar del Oriente headquarters within Iquitos. The building sustains heavy damage from fires spurred on by Molotov Cocktails, 17 soldiers killed or wounded and 2 officers killed in the fire and gunfire.

19th of May, 1991: A single individual claiming loyalty to MRTA captured and interrogated, successfully claims to Government to be from Shining Path and claims that the Maoist terrorist group orchestrated the attack on the Región Militar del Oriente headquarters.
Governmental State of Emergency declared in Loreto region, military across the country begins brutal repression of suspected members of Shining Path and MRTA, leading to hundreds of innocent civilians becoming incarcerated, injured or killed in the operations

28th of July, 1991: Peruvian President Alberto Fujimori successfully assassinated by MRTA terrorists in Lima on during an address focusing on the one year since inauguration.

11th of August, 1991: Vladimiro López Trigoso successfully coups a divided government which had still yet to inaugurate a president after Alberto Fujimori's assassination, becomes President of Peru and de facto turns the country into a military dictatorship.

Later 1991 a.d : Peruvians begin peaceful and violent protest against the military dictatorship, upon immediate repression of civil rights, freedoms and repression by Vladimiro López Trigoso's cabinet... Vladimiro López Trigoso declares a national state of emergency and begins brutally attacking terroristic groups such as MRTA and Shining Path, causing untold civilian casualties in crossfires, human rights violations by Shining Path and the Military of Peru.

1992 to 1994: Faux civil war between Civilian protestors, the Military of Peru and terroristic elements of the country erupts, though the crumbling government successfully maintains a façade of control in order to protect Peru from foreign elements which would only complicate efforts to stabilize, as had been believed by Vladimiro López Trigoso.
Members of MRTA and Shining Path begin to split off into certain separate groups. Most notably, two non-governmental organisations would form, known as Nuevo Partido Demócrata and Movimiento soviético de Perú (Renamed to Movimiento soviético de las cuatro regiones upon the establishment of the new government) that would successfully force a new government of Peru upon the disillusionment of Vladimiro López Trigoso. As of the current day both groups claim that they resented both MRTA and Shining Path's actions and act in opposition to terrorism, though it is theorised that the members had formally completely cooperated with both groups, and are faking self-hatred to win the support of the people.

20th of November, 1994: Vladimiro López Trigoso killed in his home by MRTA terrorists, whom had worn black ski masks and wielded 12 gauge shotguns as they stormed into his home, overcoming initial resistance quickly... Protestors which filled the streets looked onwards without attempting to stop the terrorists. Reports say that many cheered and clapped for the action, seeing the MRTA as the lesser evil at the time.

Late 1994 a.d: A group of peasants, indigenous peoples and military soldiers who had dissented from their ranks, either due to being closeted supporters of antagonists to Vladimiro López Trigoso's cabinet, or otherwise unwilling to continue supporting a government which they viewed as morally bankrupt across the country form Partido Social Consumista, an NGO which would be legalized as a party of the new government upon it's establishment and as of the modern day is the most supported party of the country.

22nd of November, 1994: Partido Social Consumista, Nuevo Partido Demócrata and Movimiento soviético de Perú convene in Cusco, and discuss the establishment of a Direct Democratic People's Republic after the killing of Military Dictator Vladimiro López Trigoso... MRTA terrorists wreak havoc in the streets of Cusco and cause the local government to forcibly exile themselves in fear or repression or even their own lives.

23rd of November, 1994: In union, Partido Social Consumista, Nuevo Partido Demócrata and Movimiento soviético de Perú capitalizes on MRTA's actions and establishes the new government, and declares the People's Republic of the Four Regions with popular support. Lima remains in chaos through the disjointed government, riots by the common people and continued guerilla warfare by MRTA and Shining Path, and the military splinters due to the loss of the commander-in-chief...

20th of December, 1994: A militia formed by the People's Republic of the Four Regions across the country march on Lima, Peruvian military flounders and ineffectively provides opposition. Lima overcome by the militia and ringleaders demand for the Peruvian government to disband and accept the jurisdiction of the People's Republic of the Four Regions.
The new government promises amnesty for the soldiers of the military should they align with Cusco and accept the new government.

1994 to 1996 a.d: Military of Peru disbanded as the Ejército Popular de las Cuatro Regiones is formed in return. Soldiers and officers who would not conform are either incarcerated, form guerilla factions that would terrorize the Four Regions to the modern day as MRTA and Shining Path had did before them or escape and seek refuge within foreign soil. Reactionary factions or otherwise guerilla fighters loyal to the previous regime of Peru splinter into disunited groups aiming to overthrow the People's Republic of the Four Regions, much like the revolution that had spelt the end of the previous regime of Peru.

26th of January, 1995: The Cenepa War between the People's Republic of the Four Regions and Ecuador begins. Guerilla forces acting against the new government side with Ecuador...
War ends in a stalemate between the two countries. White Peace enforced on the 18th of May, 1995. Tensions between Tawantinsuyu and Ecuador remain.

1995 a.d: Cusco develops the Police Force of Tawantinsuyu considerably through funding, a decision elected by the people in response to heightened aggression from terroristic forces such as the Movimiento de Restauración del Perú and Vigilias de la democracia peruana. Attacks remained in frequency yet would result in less fatalities due to Police counterinsurgency operations.

1996 to 2021 a.d: Modern day of the People's Republic of the Four Regions... The Dominant ideology pertained by the common people and represented by Partido Social Consumista of Market Socialism would allow for a slow increase in human development and the growth of the value of the Inti... Tawantinsuyu has hosted many Forums of São Paulo throughout it's existence and leads talks through the International Meeting of Communist and Workers' Parties for the creation of a Fifth International alongside Venezuela.
The country has seen much turmoil and is considered a developed, yet poor nation as of the current day. The Peruvian economy is seen as more stable than their socialist brother of Venezuela yet remains one of the weakest in South America though recovery has, and still is ongoing.


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Царство Аляски, or the Russian Empire lives on in it's old colony, Alaska after the conclusion of the Russian Revolution of 1917. Standing with it's allies against the Moscow Accord of Russia and it's alliance members, nevertheless world tensions dwindle and the people of Alaska grow ever more desensitised with the conservative status quo, and their insistence on clinging to a now redundant past.
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The Free Territory of Makhnovia
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Postby The Free Territory of Makhnovia » Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:12 am

Nationstates Name: Free Territory of Makhnovia
Nation Name: Socialist Federative Republic of Brazil

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Tsarstvo Alyaski
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Postby Tsarstvo Alyaski » Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:42 am

The Free Territory of Makhnovia wrote:Socialist Federative Republic of Brazil


Hmmmmmm...
Partners in crime?

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Deblar
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Postby Deblar » Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:58 am

Ayo, Latin American buddies. Not only that, they’re also socialists

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Postby The Free Territory of Makhnovia » Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:31 am

Deblar wrote:Ayo, Latin American buddies. Not only that, they’re also socialists


Yes, we gonna make Latin American alliance. Foro do Sao Paulo will be super strong. :)

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Postby The Free Territory of Makhnovia » Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:22 am

Nationstates Name: Free Territory of Makhnovia
Nation Name: Socialist Federative Republic of Brazil
Capital:Brasilia
Territory: same as Brazil in real life
Population: a little over 210 million
Official Language:Portuguese
Recognized Languages:A bunch of indigenous and minority languages- like in IRL Brazil, they are too numerous to count here.
Flag:
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Head of State: Emilio do Santos
HoS Picture:Image
Head of Government: Emilio do Santos
HoG Picture (If different from HoS):
Legislature Name: Bicameral National Congress comprised of Chamber of deputies and Senate
Party in Power (If bicameral note who controls each): Coalition of PCB (Partido Comunista Brasileiro), PT (Partido dos Trabalhadores),PCdoB Partido Comunista do Brasil, and PDT (Partido Democrático Trabalhista) has comfortable majority in chamber of deputies and narrow majority (three seats) in the Senate.

GDP (PPP): $1.491 trillion
Currency: fifth cruzeiro

Military Information (If different from irl you must indicate that here): No change from IRL military.

Alliances (If different from IRL): Foro do Sao Paolo.

History Changes (Subject to review and approval by OP and Co-OP): History of Brazil changes in 2006 when PT president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva decided to negotiate broad leftist coalition instead of pandering to the parties of the center. Leftist coalition gained massive popular support when young and ambitious general secretary of PCdoB Emilio do Santos presented its comprehensive plan of poverty eradication which destabilized the country, but resulted in greatest political engagement of marginalized groups in Brazil- urban poor, landless peasants and even some favela gangs came in support of government and against the oligarchies. Soon many major industries were nationalized, land was distributed to the peasants and deforestation was stopped. Those measures found great opposition with agrobusinesses and short civil conflict was fought in the state of Para and parts of Brazilian interior between 2008 and 2010, resulting in government victory. The newfound militancy of the communists made them much greater factor in the government and after another electional victory in 2010, where coalition won most state legislatures and both houses, Lula withdrew from politics in 2014 and endorsed Emilio do Santos as next presidential candidate. Santos won in 2014 with large margin, enacted monetary reform and connected with neighboring communist countries, while spearheading wide social programs and empowering huge national industries like petrol and agriculture, while allowing more market freedom and private initiative in tourism and service sectors, which proved to be the winning combination, despite creating new class of "red billionaires" in the cities, whose new income mostly came from hotels and resorts. New rich were privileged by socialist government, which caused a bit of the stir with many more extreme members of the party, but rise in living standard compensated for the lack of ideological rigidity. Do Santos faced stronger electional challenge in 2018, with far right presenting a strong candidate, while a coalition of urban left wing and green parties decided to split the vote in the first round of elections. Do Santon managed to win narrowly and supermajority in chambers was lost, while coalition still dominated the National Congress. In previous three years, Emilio do Santos has decided to fight a war against organized crime, increase manufacturing sector and mining and spearhead global environmental movement. He already started campaigning for his reelection next year.

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Postby Deblar » Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:27 am

The Free Territory of Makhnovia wrote:
Deblar wrote:Ayo, Latin American buddies. Not only that, they’re also socialists


Yes, we gonna make Latin American alliance. Foro do Sao Paulo will be super strong. :)

Aw yeah, a Latin American socialist alliance. Count me the hell in.

And just to clarify, I am Cuba

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Postby Tsarstvo Alyaski » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:33 am

Well, this is interesting...
So, in the span of a decade Latin America has seen two new Red countries sprout out, and one still clinging on in the underbelly of the U.S.A
(I wonder how the USA will treat this all)

So I guess if we get accepted, first point of call is making a proper alliance out of the Foro de São Paulo?

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Postby The Free Territory of Makhnovia » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:40 am

Tsarstvo Alyaski wrote:Well, this is interesting...
So, in the span of a decade Latin America has seen two new Red countries sprout out, and one still clinging on in the underbelly of the U.S.A
(I wonder how the USA will treat this all)

So I guess if we get accepted, first point of call is making a proper alliance out of the Foro de São Paulo?


Yes, to move towards some kind of Latin American EU/Warsaw Pact. The thing is, South America has bunch of resources both in terms of material and expertise. If we pool that together we can develop Latam potentials quite rapidly.

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:27 pm

Tsarstvo Alyaski wrote:Well, this is interesting...
So, in the span of a decade Latin America has seen two new Red countries sprout out, and one still clinging on in the underbelly of the U.S.A
(I wonder how the USA will treat this all)

So I guess if we get accepted, first point of call is making a proper alliance out of the Foro de São Paulo?

Well in the 90s the US was more focused elsewhere. By the 2000s, about the only place anyone was willing to make a stink over was Afghanistan for, well, obvious reasons.
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Postby Tsarstvo Alyaski » Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:34 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:Well in the 90s the US was more focused elsewhere. By the 2000s, about the only place anyone was willing to make a stink over was Afghanistan for, well, obvious reasons.


Y eah
Fair enough...

It's going to be weird tho that all of a sudden two countries of South America, one quite influential indeed becomes Red
(Even if IC it happened at least one and a half decade ago)

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Postby The Free Territory of Makhnovia » Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:41 pm

Tsarstvo Alyaski wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:Well in the 90s the US was more focused elsewhere. By the 2000s, about the only place anyone was willing to make a stink over was Afghanistan for, well, obvious reasons.


Y eah
Fair enough...

It's going to be weird tho that all of a sudden two countries of South America, one quite influential indeed becomes Red
(Even if IC it happened at least one and a half decade ago)


Brazil was IRL close to going red IRL during Lula presidency, instead of merely being pink. Only think preventing that was PT unable to make viable coalition with other left parties and had depended on support of the centrist which ended in...Yeah, this now.
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Postby Tsarstvo Alyaski » Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:46 pm

The Free Territory of Makhnovia wrote:Brazil was IRL close to going red IRL during Lula presidency, instead of merely being pink. Only think preventing that was PT unable to make viable coalition with other left parties and had depended on support of the centrist which ended in...Yeah, this now.


Meanwhile Tawantinsuyu/Peru during the early 1990's:
*Random noises, screams and gunfire*

Oh, btw do you have any idea how you'll pursue the empowerment of the Foro de São Paulo should your app be accepted?
That's probably important to stipulate :)
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Царство Аляски, or the Russian Empire lives on in it's old colony, Alaska after the conclusion of the Russian Revolution of 1917. Standing with it's allies against the Moscow Accord of Russia and it's alliance members, nevertheless world tensions dwindle and the people of Alaska grow ever more desensitised with the conservative status quo, and their insistence on clinging to a now redundant past.
Current date : 7th of April, 2019.

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Postby The Free Territory of Makhnovia » Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:52 pm

I was thinking about starting with a series of joint agreement dealing with two things: 1. creating a strong defensive military block against imperialism (with possibility of conducting joint military operations to support anti-fascist and anticapitalist movements worldwide) 2. Coordinated economic cooperation between left wing regimes in Latam: joint infrastructure projects, trade zones, mutually beneficial economic planning. Of course that also means coordinated voting block in the UN with goal of placing one of us as a permanent member in the Security Council.

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:47 pm

The Free Territory of Makhnovia wrote:I was thinking about starting with a series of joint agreement dealing with two things: 1. creating a strong defensive military block against imperialism (with possibility of conducting joint military operations to support anti-fascist and anticapitalist movements worldwide) 2. Coordinated economic cooperation between left wing regimes in Latam: joint infrastructure projects, trade zones, mutually beneficial economic planning. Of course that also means coordinated voting block in the UN with goal of placing one of us as a permanent member in the Security Council.

I don't think there is a way to add a permanent member, as the five permanent members were decided in 1945 at the founding of the UN.
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Postby The Free Territory of Makhnovia » Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:53 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
The Free Territory of Makhnovia wrote:I was thinking about starting with a series of joint agreement dealing with two things: 1. creating a strong defensive military block against imperialism (with possibility of conducting joint military operations to support anti-fascist and anticapitalist movements worldwide) 2. Coordinated economic cooperation between left wing regimes in Latam: joint infrastructure projects, trade zones, mutually beneficial economic planning. Of course that also means coordinated voting block in the UN with goal of placing one of us as a permanent member in the Security Council.

I don't think there is a way to add a permanent member, as the five permanent members were decided in 1945 at the founding of the UN.


There has been suggestions to amend the charter in a way that increases the number of permanent members (from India, and more recently, from Erdogan) and suggestions to remove permanent membership. But it is something that has to pass general assembly and avoid veto from permanent members.

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:59 pm

OK, I've done some more research. There is a longstanding proposal for Germany, India, Brazil, and Japan to be added to the Permanent Members of the UNSC. However, there is an equally longstanding opposition to all four. Pakistan consistently lobbies against India's addition, Italy and Spain against Germany, Mexico, Colombia, and Argentina against Brazil, and South Korea against Japan. Other nations that lobby against the expansion of the permanent membership include Canada, Indonesia, Turkey, and Malta.

Basically, there are two "blocs" you could say in this regard. Germany, India, Brazil, and Japan all support each other being added to the P5 grouping (collectively they are the G4). The opposition is the Uniting for Consensus group of nations (also known as the Coffee Club). Basically, while the G4 just want to make the P5 into the P9, the Coffee Club prefers to holdout for a broader consensus and is more in favor of expanding the number of temporary members.

Of course, any reform requires two thirds of the UN General Assembly to accept it in a vote and then also ratify it, as well as all five current Permanent UNSC members agree to it. As far as the P5 members go, the United States, IRL, is open to the idea (as am I, which by extension means my USA is open to it). IRL the UK and France both support such reforms, as does Russia. I'm not sure about China's position on the matter.

So, overall, it is possible but very difficult. Basically, you need to get 129 nations to vote yes twice, with five nations in particular also voting yes.
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Postby The Free Territory of Makhnovia » Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:02 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:OK, I've done some more research. There is a longstanding proposal for Germany, India, Brazil, and Japan to be added to the Permanent Members of the UNSC. However, there is an equally longstanding opposition to all four. Pakistan consistently lobbies against India's addition, Italy and Spain against Germany, Mexico, Colombia, and Argentina against Brazil, and South Korea against Japan. Other nations that lobby against the expansion of the permanent membership include Canada, Indonesia, Turkey, and Malta.

Basically, there are two "blocs" you could say in this regard. Germany, India, Brazil, and Japan all support each other being added to the P5 grouping (collectively they are the G4). The opposition is the Uniting for Consensus group of nations (also known as the Coffee Club). Basically, while the G4 just want to make the P5 into the P9, the Coffee Club prefers to holdout for a broader consensus and is more in favor of expanding the number of temporary members.

Of course, any reform requires two thirds of the UN General Assembly to accept it in a vote and then also ratify it, as well as all five current Permanent UNSC members agree to it. As far as the P5 members go, the United States, IRL, is open to the idea (as am I, which by extension means my USA is open to it). IRL the UK and France both support such reforms, as does Russia. I'm not sure about China's position on the matter.

So, overall, it is possible but very difficult. Basically, you need to get 129 nations to vote yes twice, with five nations in particular also voting yes.


Hey, thanks for the breakdown. So, it seems like it will require insane amount of good diplomacy. Challenge accepted! :)

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:15 pm

The Free Territory of Makhnovia wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:OK, I've done some more research. There is a longstanding proposal for Germany, India, Brazil, and Japan to be added to the Permanent Members of the UNSC. However, there is an equally longstanding opposition to all four. Pakistan consistently lobbies against India's addition, Italy and Spain against Germany, Mexico, Colombia, and Argentina against Brazil, and South Korea against Japan. Other nations that lobby against the expansion of the permanent membership include Canada, Indonesia, Turkey, and Malta.

Basically, there are two "blocs" you could say in this regard. Germany, India, Brazil, and Japan all support each other being added to the P5 grouping (collectively they are the G4). The opposition is the Uniting for Consensus group of nations (also known as the Coffee Club). Basically, while the G4 just want to make the P5 into the P9, the Coffee Club prefers to holdout for a broader consensus and is more in favor of expanding the number of temporary members.

Of course, any reform requires two thirds of the UN General Assembly to accept it in a vote and then also ratify it, as well as all five current Permanent UNSC members agree to it. As far as the P5 members go, the United States, IRL, is open to the idea (as am I, which by extension means my USA is open to it). IRL the UK and France both support such reforms, as does Russia. I'm not sure about China's position on the matter.

So, overall, it is possible but very difficult. Basically, you need to get 129 nations to vote yes twice, with five nations in particular also voting yes.


Hey, thanks for the breakdown. So, it seems like it will require insane amount of good diplomacy. Challenge accepted! :)

Insane amounts of good diplomacy to break through 3 decades of opposition.
For: Israel, Palestine, Kurdistan, American Nationalism, American citizens of Guam, American Samoa, Puerto Rico, Northern Mariana Islands, and US Virgin Islands receiving a congressional vote and being allowed to vote for president, military, veterans before refugees, guns, pro choice, LGBT marriage, plural marriage, US Constitution, World Peace, Global Unity.

Against: Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Liberalism, Theocracy, Corporatocracy.


By the Blood of our Fathers, By the Blood of our Sons, we fight, we die, we sacrifice for the Good of the Empire.

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