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The Second Order of Life
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Postby The Second Order of Life » Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:40 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:Sounds like a fun concept, Second Order - I'm actually running a band from the Secret War in a RP here on P2TM myself. I think there's lots of latitude there for a good writing project, though it is a shame you feel it would be difficult to keep the Soviet setting. I'm not entirely sure what meat there would be to the story without a defined setting. Did you have another one in mind, perhaps?

Well, I've thought about throwing it to sci-fi in a couple of ways, but I think it'd lose the primary tension from The Secret War, that is a feeling of unease and constant threat; with excessively futuristic equipment you'll just feel to safe to really savour it. I've run through setting it as a team exploring a giant trading hub space station that has suddenly cut all of its communications with the external world - but that would stray too far from the original idea, and would exclude the mechanic of survival unless I make the space station have a truly colossal size. I've also considered just a good old planet exploration gone wrong, but not only is that too cliché, it also does not hold a candle to the original idea's merits; tension is often nullified if you have enough plasma handcannons!

All that being said, I have considered doing the opposite: pulling this back a hundred years to the Napoleonic era. I'm far more used to that setting and can make a somewhat credible attempt at holding an RP with it, and I think the inherent limitations of technology due to the period may enhance the dread present in the original story. A quick, fast, and hauntingly organised opponent against a patrol of probably conscripted soldiers who are given a slow to fire and reload weapon and - if they're lucky - a bayonet, and told to make do. I'd imagine that I could stick to history and let this be a French expedition to Egypt, one motivated by a desperate Napoleon stuck in the deserts of Alexandria by virtue of the British command of the sea. Discretely, he would be organising a few military expeditions into the uncompromising desert, uncovering - however - hints of an evil that had not been discovered before in other Egyptology efforts, and that now unleashed itself into the world. This would play into the "ancient danger" trope and keep the setting grounded in reality. Instead of the bitter and silent cold of Siberia being the enemy, the scorching days and the shivering nights of the African desert would be the challenged to any who would dare attempt to understand the secrets of the desert.

There's also the admittedly easier to set-up idea of just making a fictional universe within the parameters of 1800s tech from scratch. With this I could play with a far larger number ideas, but again, some people may be attracted to the history aspect, so I'm not sure which I should pick. Creating a fictional world would not be much of a challenged to me, I'm sure I can make something interesting and believable, so it really is a matter of taste and convenience. Honestly, I'm thinking about this too much without first assessing if there'd even be enough interest for me to consider fleshing out this further. I, again, am getting ahead of myself!
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Rudaslavia
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Postby Rudaslavia » Fri Apr 28, 2023 5:21 pm

James, you still cookin' up that supernatural cop RP?
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Postby North America Inc » Sun Apr 30, 2023 9:33 pm

I can't believe I never used this thread before; reading through it, it seems like an incredible treasure trove of advice.

I noticed a lot of preliminary ideas and thoughts, so let me flip the script; how is everyone's current RP going?

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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:13 pm

North America Inc wrote:I noticed a lot of preliminary ideas and thoughts, so let me flip the script; how is everyone's current RP going?

Well, for our 2095 RP, the OP decamped on us and we haven't heard from him in a few weeks, and the Alt Div is plodding along slowly as Alt Divs usually do with nobody being that interested in interacting with me.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon May 01, 2023 7:59 am

Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:
North America Inc wrote:I noticed a lot of preliminary ideas and thoughts, so let me flip the script; how is everyone's current RP going?

Well, for our 2095 RP, the OP decamped on us and we haven't heard from him in a few weeks, and the Alt Div is plodding along slowly as Alt Divs usually do with nobody being that interested in interacting with me.


Alas, poor Norv CTE'd. Busy first quarter man.

Myself, New Civs is purring along nicely, as she always does, and Things Betwixt is surging to new life with some really excellent posting from Lazarian as OP and the lads.
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Slugterrania
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Postby Slugterrania » Mon May 01, 2023 10:49 am

Would anyone think a thread rp based on the anime Gantz would be cool. Basically, people who should have died are instead taken by a secret government organization to hunt down aliens. It is a cutthroat series with horrifying monstrosities and very little plot armor. Like SCP D class but with guns.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon May 08, 2023 5:35 am

Yknow what is tickling my fancy right now? Mass Effect: Factions.
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Olthenia
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Postby Olthenia » Fri May 12, 2023 5:58 am

Ah, yes.

Factions.

Does anyone remember an old nod to the Warhammer franchise called 'Mordheim'? What if we took that core concept and gave it a slightly more sci-fi spin?
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat May 13, 2023 8:45 am

Olthenia wrote:Ah, yes.

Factions.

Does anyone remember an old nod to the Warhammer franchise called 'Mordheim'? What if we took that core concept and gave it a slightly more sci-fi spin?


Heh, I remember trying that. Unfortunately the person who tried the Mordheim RPG… kinda wandered off.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sun May 14, 2023 2:41 am

Rudaslavia wrote:James, you still cookin' up that supernatural cop RP?

I am still working on it! The thing I am currently concerned with is that it is incredibly intensive to OP a roleplay with a mystery element, so I am considering not being a gamemaster in a traditional sense and make it a truly collaborative effort, which would be easier to OP.
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Shatenia
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Postby Shatenia » Mon May 15, 2023 10:14 am

Don't suppose there would be any interest in trying another US political RP?

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon May 15, 2023 12:33 pm

Shatenia wrote:Don't suppose there would be any interest in trying another US political RP?


Anything in particular you would aim for with this RP? A particular setting, perhaps, or crisis?
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Mon May 15, 2023 1:59 pm

I am working on the spooky cop concept, though another plan of mine was to revive Res Publica Pro Tempore as a political game with a dictatorial backdrop, now that I have since learned more about how dictatorships operate.
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Postby Shatenia » Mon May 15, 2023 2:38 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Shatenia wrote:Don't suppose there would be any interest in trying another US political RP?


Anything in particular you would aim for with this RP? A particular setting, perhaps, or crisis?

I'd like to run a more contemporary political RP. There were some here a year or two ago but not one for a while, other than that 1960s alt-history one: not sure if that is still going but I was looking for something a little more modern and grounded. I realize that's a vague pitch, I'm more ferreting around for interest at this stage.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue May 16, 2023 5:35 am

Shatenia wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Anything in particular you would aim for with this RP? A particular setting, perhaps, or crisis?

I'd like to run a more contemporary political RP. There were some here a year or two ago but not one for a while, other than that 1960s alt-history one: not sure if that is still going but I was looking for something a little more modern and grounded. I realize that's a vague pitch, I'm more ferreting around for interest at this stage.


A modern American political RP should get some decent traction - though I'd generally note you might see a better groundswell of participation the closer we get to the US elections. The forums usually see a good chunk of new folks who want to run the nation better than 'politician X', hah.
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Postby Arrhidaeus » Wed May 17, 2023 1:36 pm

Does anyone know of any well made sci-fi nation RPs that have been done in the past?

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed May 17, 2023 5:21 pm

Arrhidaeus wrote:Does anyone know of any well made sci-fi nation RPs that have been done in the past?


A fair few, aye. We've had Mass Effect, custom settings, Stellaris, a good swathe of them. Anything in particular you are looking for inspiration from?
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Postby Arrhidaeus » Wed May 17, 2023 11:11 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Arrhidaeus wrote:Does anyone know of any well made sci-fi nation RPs that have been done in the past?


A fair few, aye. We've had Mass Effect, custom settings, Stellaris, a good swathe of them. Anything in particular you are looking for inspiration from?

Maybe ones that lean on the more fantastical side. Not really looking for hard sci-fi since I'm not looking for a numbers game.

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Postby The Rio Grande River Basin » Wed May 17, 2023 11:36 pm

Arrhidaeus wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
A fair few, aye. We've had Mass Effect, custom settings, Stellaris, a good swathe of them. Anything in particular you are looking for inspiration from?

Maybe ones that lean on the more fantastical side. Not really looking for hard sci-fi since I'm not looking for a numbers game.

Star wars? Warhammer?
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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Thu May 18, 2023 12:08 am

Arrhidaeus wrote:Not really looking for hard sci-fi since I'm not looking for a numbers game.

I will note that all the things you can do to avert the dreaded "players disagree on their relative strengths and thus the outcome of contested events" problem in a soft sci-fi context are also applicable in a hard sci-fi context.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu May 18, 2023 5:44 am

Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:
Arrhidaeus wrote:Not really looking for hard sci-fi since I'm not looking for a numbers game.

I will note that all the things you can do to avert the dreaded "players disagree on their relative strengths and thus the outcome of contested events" problem in a soft sci-fi context are also applicable in a hard sci-fi context.


Well, have you considered that the superior ore composition and honeycombed interior bulkheads of my Long March battlecruisers allow them to maneuver at 0.3 G more than the enemy fleet, meaning their probability manifold is 0.08 AU in diameter when firing from the asteroid belt to Mars? With that much random-walk, your mass drivers are going to miss every shot.

Checkmate, kinetic theists.
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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Thu May 18, 2023 6:01 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:Checkmate, kinetic theists.

If you were ever curious why all my post-modern RPs have these gigantic wall-of-text original posts...

This. This is exactly why.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu May 18, 2023 6:54 am

Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Checkmate, kinetic theists.

If you were ever curious why all my post-modern RPs have these gigantic wall-of-text original posts...

This. This is exactly why.


But then how am I, as a roleplayer, supposed to talk my way into a position of strategic and technological superiority through sheer implication?
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu May 18, 2023 7:08 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:If you were ever curious why all my post-modern RPs have these gigantic wall-of-text original posts...

This. This is exactly why.


But then how am I, as a roleplayer, supposed to talk my way into a position of strategic and technological superiority through sheer implication?

The secret is tricking the OP into allowing seemingly mundane tech and then creating a chain from that.

"Oh, so you allowed commercially availabe 3-d printers, but logically, industrial adaption would precede commmercial use, and thus, I am allowed to print battleships, otherwise you are killing my world building
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Postby Diaboland » Thu May 18, 2023 5:41 pm

I don't know if this is the right place to post this, but does anyone know if there are any roleplays here for the Metal Gear franchise? If not, do you know of any other sites that do? Thanks in advance!

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