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Madrinpoor
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Postby Madrinpoor » Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:31 pm

Hey everyone!

I've been tossing around the idea of a UK Political RP for a while now, and with another pretty active P2TM RPer from the UK (who hasn't responded yet), and I wanted to gauge interest/possibly hook some people into the Admin-ing team.

Since the American politics thread has been really successful for a while now (like 5 years?), I don't see why a UK version couldn't be the same. A 60s-style American politics thread has even been successful (though a bit of a niche)! And the UK has such an interesting political structure, and one that could really be taken places, so why couldn't it work?

Unfortunately, way more Americans are on NationStates than Brits (I am an American). So there's much less of a following base with experience and immersion in UK politics, or even interest there, though judging from what I've seen on the active UK politics thread it still does exist. To make things interesting, I suggest that this takes place in 2015 or 2016 — where the big battle is over Brexit. In my mind, it's a much more low-key and relaxed RP, (if ATB or Washington or the US political RPs are like TV dramas, this is a dramedy — less focused on realism and representativeness than having fun in the UK political atmosphere. It's Ted Lasso compared to All American. Spin City compared to The West Wing. Idk.) and more is going to slide here.

Just the bare bones of a spitball, but would anybody be interested?
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Theyra
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Postby Theyra » Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:31 pm

So I got an idea for a rp, it is an alt-history. Basically, it would be about the aftermath of a brutal civil war of a nation and the nation trying to rebuild itself. While dealing with the lingering problems that the nation had before the civil war and some new ones. The rp would be set either in the 1960s, 1970s or the 1990s. As for what nation this would be. I got four ideas.

Gran Colombia - that stayed together and underwent a dictatorship before a revolution took place and ousted the dictatorship. Starting the path to rebuilding while dealing with both old and new problems.

Transcaucasian Democratic Federative Republic - that survived and found itself becoming a proxy in the cold war despite being neutral. Found itself dealing with a communist uprising that while quelled. Left a major impact on that nation as it tries to rebuild while remaining watchful of any more possible threats to the nation.

An alt-history nation in the middle east - A united rebellion that ousted the reigning government after years of corruption. That while they won, the rebellion groups try to form a new government and rebuild the nation but, the different ideals of the rebel leaders causes friction among them that might if left unresolved. Could cause a new civil war.

An alt-history nation in southeast Asia - No sure what exactly yet.

Anyone interested in this and could maybe help me with it?

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Exalted Inquellian State
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:53 am

Theyra wrote:So I got an idea for a rp, it is an alt-history. Basically, it would be about the aftermath of a brutal civil war of a nation and the nation trying to rebuild itself. While dealing with the lingering problems that the nation had before the civil war and some new ones. The rp would be set either in the 1960s, 1970s or the 1990s. As for what nation this would be. I got four ideas.

Gran Colombia - that stayed together and underwent a dictatorship before a revolution took place and ousted the dictatorship. Starting the path to rebuilding while dealing with both old and new problems.

Transcaucasian Democratic Federative Republic - that survived and found itself becoming a proxy in the cold war despite being neutral. Found itself dealing with a communist uprising that while quelled. Left a major impact on that nation as it tries to rebuild while remaining watchful of any more possible threats to the nation.

An alt-history nation in the middle east - A united rebellion that ousted the reigning government after years of corruption. That while they won, the rebellion groups try to form a new government and rebuild the nation but, the different ideals of the rebel leaders causes friction among them that might if left unresolved. Could cause a new civil war.

An alt-history nation in southeast Asia - No sure what exactly yet.

Anyone interested in this and could maybe help me with it?

I admit, this is interesting. If its set in the 1990's, the Transcaucasian Democratic Federative Republic sounds like a good place, while a setting in the 1960's would be good in Gran Columbia, due to an absence of most non-leftist politicians from the Caucasus.
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Theyra
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Postby Theyra » Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:05 pm

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:I admit, this is interesting. If its set in the 1990's, the Transcaucasian Democratic Federative Republic sounds like a good place, while a setting in the 1960's would be good in Gran Columbia, due to an absence of most non-leftist politicians from the Caucasus.


Well, I am leaning towards the Transcaucasian Democratic Federative Republic aka the united Caucasus. That was my first idea even if the nation only lasted a month in real life. Though Gran Columbia might be more interesting to people. Which are you leaning towards?
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Galnius
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Postby Galnius » Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:22 pm

Hello everyone. I've made a mecha rphttps://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=513959 if anyone is interested. I've rpd with quite a few of y'all and know you are good at it, and more importantly, fun. Feel free to check out my rather shameless plug.
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Exalted Inquellian State
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:47 pm

Theyra wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:I admit, this is interesting. If its set in the 1990's, the Transcaucasian Democratic Federative Republic sounds like a good place, while a setting in the 1960's would be good in Gran Columbia, due to an absence of most non-leftist politicians from the Caucasus.


Well, I am leaning towards the Transcaucasian Democratic Federative Republic aka the united Caucasus. That was my first idea even if the nation only lasted a month in real life. Though Gran Columbia might be more interesting to people. Which are you leaning towards?

I mean, Transcaucasian Democratic Federative Republic, but its gonna be difficult finding non-communist caucasian politicians in any period bar the 90s.
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Exalted Inquellian State
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:49 pm

Galnius wrote:Hello everyone. I've made a mecha rphttps://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=513959 if anyone is interested. I've rpd with quite a few of y'all and know you are good at it, and more importantly, fun. Feel free to check out my rather shameless plug.

I'll try to read more of it, maybe I'll be interested.
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Theyra
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Postby Theyra » Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:10 pm

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
Theyra wrote:
Well, I am leaning towards the Transcaucasian Democratic Federative Republic aka the united Caucasus. That was my first idea even if the nation only lasted a month in real life. Though Gran Columbia might be more interesting to people. Which are you leaning towards?

I mean, Transcaucasian Democratic Federative Republic, but its gonna be difficult finding non-communist caucasian politicians in any period bar the 90s.


Okay, So Gran Colombia it is then. I will probably need some help with this. You willing or no?

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New Antarcticania
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Postby New Antarcticania » Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:30 pm

So, Quick intrest check, here. Who would be interested in the below two Concepts:

A) An X-com like RPG where you fend off increasingly difficult waves of alien Ground forces and UFOs, tech tree and all. (Go back in the thread for more)

Or

B) an Highfleet-like RPG where players build and captian their own glorified airship from scratch using predetermined hulls. Wander around an planet (I'm not tellin' what) that was cut off by an mass-blackout of FTL technology. And basically trying to survive and live another day until they retire.

Of course, that probably wont happen.
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Ceystile
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ceystile » Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:29 pm

I was wondering if anybody would be interested in a reverse isekai. It takes place in 2016 so modern enough but before the pandemic was a thing. Basically it's people from an alternate fantasy world getting yeeted into the modern world due to a science experiment gone wrong (kinda a reverse isekai) and they have to get back home before their worlds collide violently and destroy each other. So a team of scientists tried to invent time travel in order to go forward in time and prevent the apocalypse, but instead end up opening a rift between worlds by accident and that's how you get people displaced and worlds getting thrown absolutely out of orbit.

It's a familiar format but also shaken up a lil. The main plot is that everybody is trying to get back home before the Convergence (basically the two worlds melding together in order to "correct" everything and destroying each other) and the subplots can be the relationships everybody forms along the way. Players can be ordinary everyday modern citizens or the displaced fantasy characters or one of the team of scientists going around trying to round everyone up and correct their mistake.

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Northern Socialist Council Republics
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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:32 pm

Ceystile wrote:-snip-

I absolutely love this idea, but it would be hard to pull off convincingly. After all, the world of 2016 is not particularly exotic or mysterious to us, and arguably those are where the strength of portal fiction lies.

You’ll need to craft a really compelling plot to compensate for the familiar setting, I feel.
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Ceystile
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ceystile » Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:42 pm

I was thinking about doing it in another time period but I don't think a lot of people want to go too far into the past (the future though, that's probably different). Thanks for your suggestion, I appreciate it :) And I'm really glad you like the idea.

So the plot I have so far is the stuff in the description, scientists predict the apocalypse and try to go forward in time to fix it. They goof up horribly and create a dimensional rift which transports our characters here. They experience culture shock and all that other stuff, and so they have to find a way to fix the rift and get everyone back to their proper home before the very apocalypse they were trying to prevent actually happens and destroys both worlds. There's also forces that wish to prevent the scientists fixing this and everybody getting back because they have other plans, but I'm still fleshing that out.

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Fri Dec 24, 2021 3:07 am

Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:
Ceystile wrote:-snip-

I absolutely love this idea, but it would be hard to pull off convincingly. After all, the world of 2016 is not particularly exotic or mysterious to us, and arguably those are where the strength of portal fiction lies.

You’ll need to craft a really compelling plot to compensate for the familiar setting, I feel.

But isn't that the point of it being reversed? People from a fantasy world transported to our world, that means that our world is not new to us, but the characters and their outlooks are, and I think it would be really interesting to see something like that.
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Theyra
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Postby Theyra » Fri Dec 24, 2021 10:51 am

Okay, I think I jumped the gun a bit. We can do the Transcaucasian Democratic Federative Republic if you want. Exalted Inquellian State, it may be harder then the other setting but, we can make it work. Might need help with it regardless.

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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:10 am

Theyra wrote:Okay, I think I jumped the gun a bit. We can do the Transcaucasian Democratic Federative Republic if you want. Exalted Inquellian State, it may be harder then the other setting but, we can make it work. Might need help with it regardless.

Alright, I'll try to get on researching important caucasian non-communist figures. Assuming this is set in the 60s or 70s, any emigre community might be a good bet.
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Postby Ceystile » Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:52 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:I absolutely love this idea, but it would be hard to pull off convincingly. After all, the world of 2016 is not particularly exotic or mysterious to us, and arguably those are where the strength of portal fiction lies.

You’ll need to craft a really compelling plot to compensate for the familiar setting, I feel.

But isn't that the point of it being reversed? People from a fantasy world transported to our world, that means that our world is not new to us, but the characters and their outlooks are, and I think it would be really interesting to see something like that.

I'm glad you guys are into this idea, that makes me happy :). I just gotta get some worldbuilding done and hopefully we get a little bit more interest.

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Postby Theyra » Fri Dec 24, 2021 1:42 pm

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
Theyra wrote:Okay, I think I jumped the gun a bit. We can do the Transcaucasian Democratic Federative Republic if you want. Exalted Inquellian State, it may be harder then the other setting but, we can make it work. Might need help with it regardless.

Alright, I'll try to get on researching important caucasian non-communist figures. Assuming this is set in the 60s or 70s, any emigre community might be a good bet.


Thanks, and yes to the time period. We could just make some up important figures if we can't find any that would work. Also, you want to discuss this by telegram or discord?

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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Fri Dec 24, 2021 3:30 pm

Theyra wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:Alright, I'll try to get on researching important caucasian non-communist figures. Assuming this is set in the 60s or 70s, any emigre community might be a good bet.


Thanks, and yes to the time period. We could just make some up important figures if we can't find any that would work. Also, you want to discuss this by telegram or discord?

Telegram.
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Theyra
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Postby Theyra » Fri Dec 24, 2021 3:47 pm

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
Telegram.


Got it
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Postby Dayganistan » Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:29 pm

Theyra wrote:Okay, I think I jumped the gun a bit. We can do the Transcaucasian Democratic Federative Republic if you want. Exalted Inquellian State, it may be harder then the other setting but, we can make it work. Might need help with it regardless.

Just to jump in on this, if you're looking for reasons for a civil war it doesn't have to be political. A unified state of Armenia, Georgia and Azerbaijan is going to have ethnic conflict regardless of when you set it since these are all people who are of different ethnicity, different culture, speak different languages from completely different linguistic families, and have different religions. It has the potential to be real nasty in terms of ethnic violence, and IRL it did devolve into that before anyone had even left the Soviet Union. And in the 1990s, well there were plenty of real life figures in the region that either weren't communists to begin with, or shifted away from communism when it became acceptable to do so as the Soviet Union fell apart.
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Theyra
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Postby Theyra » Sun Dec 26, 2021 10:36 pm

Dayganistan wrote:Just to jump in on this, if you're looking for reasons for a civil war it doesn't have to be political. A unified state of Armenia, Georgia and Azerbaijan is going to have ethnic conflict regardless of when you set it since these are all people who are of different ethnicity, different culture, speak different languages from completely different linguistic families, and have different religions. It has the potential to be real nasty in terms of ethnic violence, and IRL it did devolve into that before anyone had even left the Soviet Union. And in the 1990s, well there were plenty of real life figures in the region that either weren't communists to begin with, or shifted away from communism when it became acceptable to do so as the Soviet Union fell apart.


A good point there, and that would be easier than finding a non-communist leaders in that era.

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Postby Madrinpoor » Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:03 pm

How popular are slice of life RPs in P2TM? I've seen a couple but they don't really go anywhere.
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Postby Zarkenis Ultima » Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:13 pm

Madrinpoor wrote:How popular are slice of life RPs in P2TM? I've seen a couple but they don't really go anywhere.


I'd say they are decently popular, a fair amount of people find the idea of RPing slice of life moments appealing. However, it's difficult to maintain some forward momentum when that isn't done within the context of something else, so roleplays dedicated fully to slice of life have a tendency to stagnate.
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Madrinpoor
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Postby Madrinpoor » Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:57 pm

Zarkenis Ultima wrote:
Madrinpoor wrote:How popular are slice of life RPs in P2TM? I've seen a couple but they don't really go anywhere.


I'd say they are decently popular, a fair amount of people find the idea of RPing slice of life moments appealing. However, it's difficult to maintain some forward momentum when that isn't done within the context of something else, so roleplays dedicated fully to slice of life have a tendency to stagnate.

Do you have any advice for how to keep them from doing that? I have an idea for one, but I'm not sure it'll take off very well.
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