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Postby South Americanastan » Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:38 am

Arvenia wrote:
Union Princes wrote:another thing I realize that would be contentious between India and the rest of the world is the swastika symbol. I feel like there's gonna be some Indians who think that Hitler is a Hindu. The US and Soviet Ambassadors are gonna have a heart attack with all the Hindu swastikas in Gandhi's funeral.

Maybe you should replace those swastiska with other Hindu/Indian symbols.

The Swastika is (or was) an extremely prominent hindu symbol, along with being one of good luck before the Nazis came along. IT's going to be very hard to have a hindu funeral for Gandhi without either:

A: Having Hindu Swastikas (Which are only distinguishable from Nazi Swastikas by the direction they are pointing)
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B: Having some label it kowtowing to the US/being a fake hindu funeral, resulting in discontent
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:50 am

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Roger that, so with that in mind, are the Allies even aware n this timeline that the Holocaust occurred?

I imagine the Holocaust in this timeline is more of a rumor that, for the time being, can’t be proven


People know bad things happened/are happening, but do not know the extend of it or how horrific things are.
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Postby Deblar » Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:51 am

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Deblar wrote:I imagine the Holocaust in this timeline is more of a rumor that, for the time being, can’t be proven


People know bad things happened/are happening, but do not know the extend of it or how horrific things are.

And I imagine Germany denies it, in a sort of “there is no war in Ba Sing Se” thing?

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Postby Union Princes » Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:00 am

South Americanastan wrote:The Swastika is (or was) an extremely prominent hindu symbol, along with being one of good luck before the Nazis came along. IT's going to be very hard to have a hindu funeral for Gandhi without either:

A: Having Hindu Swastikas (Which are only distinguishable from Nazi Swastikas by the direction they are pointing)
or
B: Having some label it kowtowing to the US/being a fake hindu funeral, resulting in discontent


Option A is more likely. No one in India would want the government to kowtow to the US or to Germany. Bose may admire the Soviet Union but with Russia dismantled, he think he has the high ground over their concerns
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Postby The Soviet Union of Mother Russia » Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:12 am

The National Dominion of Hungary wrote:All right, time to reform the government so I can start my economic reconstruction plan. I wonder if the USA would be open to trading and sending aid to help with reconstruction, apparently I sit on a bunch of large gold deposits so I can pay with gold.

Also, Soviet Union of Mother Russia, wanna plan out the whole spy shenanigans about to go down?


Sure, overall the intention was to create some tension in our part of the world to get things spicy up here in the Eurasian area so I'd love to perhaps do a collab, or whatever that suits you the best.

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Postby Arvenia » Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:13 am

The Soviet Union of Mother Russia wrote:
The National Dominion of Hungary wrote:All right, time to reform the government so I can start my economic reconstruction plan. I wonder if the USA would be open to trading and sending aid to help with reconstruction, apparently I sit on a bunch of large gold deposits so I can pay with gold.

Also, Soviet Union of Mother Russia, wanna plan out the whole spy shenanigans about to go down?


Sure, overall the intention was to create some tension in our part of the world to get things spicy up here in the Eurasian area so I'd love to perhaps do a collab, or whatever that suits you the best.

I'm waiting for the Suez Crisis to begin.
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Postby The Soviet Union of Mother Russia » Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:19 am

Arvenia wrote:
The Soviet Union of Mother Russia wrote:
Sure, overall the intention was to create some tension in our part of the world to get things spicy up here in the Eurasian area so I'd love to perhaps do a collab, or whatever that suits you the best.

I'm waiting for the Suez Crisis to begin.


Regarding this Crisis, will this be commenced by the players, or a upcoming event post?

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Postby Arvenia » Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:25 am

The Soviet Union of Mother Russia wrote:
Arvenia wrote:I'm waiting for the Suez Crisis to begin.


Regarding this Crisis, will this be commenced by the players, or a upcoming event post?

I don't know.
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Postby Nancivania » Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:31 am

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The Vaktovian Empire wrote:Is Israel a thing in this RP? Currently working on my nation's history now.


There is 'Israel' in Madagascar.

Gotta wonder what's occupying the land between Syria and Egypt then
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Postby Deblar » Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:32 am

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Sao Nova Europa wrote:
There is 'Israel' in Madagascar.

Gotta wonder what's occupying the land between Syria and Egypt then

Probably some Palestinian-Jordanian kingdom similar to Syria

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Postby Arvenia » Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:34 am

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Nancivania wrote:Gotta wonder what's occupying the land between Syria and Egypt then

Probably some Palestinian-Jordanian kingdom similar to Syria

Probably just Jordan. Then there should be Saudi-Arabia (if it does exist).
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Postby Union Princes » Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:40 am

Saudi Arabia existing would definitely be more militarized because of a Socialist Iran and a unified India.

Wahhabism would probably be a lot more violent and heavily funded by the Saudis in order to destabilize Iran and India.
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Postby Arvenia » Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:45 am

Union Princes wrote:Saudi Arabia existing would definitely be more militarized because of a Socialist Iran and a unified India.

Wahhabism would probably be a lot more violent and heavily funded by the Saudis in order to destabilize Iran and India.

Would the Saudis basically be more Islamist at this point?
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Postby Union Princes » Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:57 am

Essentially, the Saudis would double down on their theocracy monarchist absolutism and align with the German Sphere. No doubt, the oil trade will be a very volatile subject going into the 70s and 80s with Saudi Arabia funding international terrorist groups to infiltrate India and the other Middle Eastern nations. They will be a massive thorn for the Third World movement.
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Postby The V O I D » Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:52 pm

Hey, Norv, Mifan, are y'all both still up for that collab post? Sorry if I'm seeming a bit nagging but just making sure we're still on for that.

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Postby The National Dominion of Hungary » Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:38 pm

The Soviet Union of Mother Russia wrote:Sure, overall the intention was to create some tension in our part of the world to get things spicy up here in the Eurasian area so I'd love to perhaps do a collab, or whatever that suits you the best.


Good idea, let's plan a course of events, you wanna try to sneak them out of prison/intercept transport or what did you have in mind? :)

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Postby The Soviet Union of Mother Russia » Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:29 pm

The National Dominion of Hungary wrote:
The Soviet Union of Mother Russia wrote:Sure, overall the intention was to create some tension in our part of the world to get things spicy up here in the Eurasian area so I'd love to perhaps do a collab, or whatever that suits you the best.


Good idea, let's plan a course of events, you wanna try to sneak them out of prison/intercept transport or what did you have in mind? :)


Well I wouldn't be in a place where I would know how far they have gone in processing, but they would be willing to do all above for saving Kliment Voroshilov, however likely not the other two if they are also in jail.
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Postby HISPIDA » Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:34 pm

italy's latest post kinda confusing me tbh

it wasn't italian fascists that bombed the macedonian refugee boats, it was (quite obviously) the ratniks

besides, why did you quote my post in its entirety?
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:37 pm

Will be making a post in IC as Germany tomorrow. Will also be reviewing apps and answering any questions asked in OOC tomorrow as well. :)
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Postby Nancivania » Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:47 pm

Hispida wrote:italy's latest post kinda confusing me tbh

it wasn't italian fascists that bombed the macedonian refugee boats, it was (quite obviously) the ratniks

besides, why did you quote my post in its entirety?

That does generally go against RPing etiquette
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:53 pm

Hispida wrote:italy's latest post kinda confusing me tbh

it wasn't italian fascists that bombed the macedonian refugee boats, it was (quite obviously) the ratniks

besides, why did you quote my post in its entirety?


They are talking about the bombing in Milan, not the bombing of the refugees. At least that's what I understood. But yes, I can see how the quote can be confusing. It would be better if the quote was removed.
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Postby Reverend Norv » Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:45 pm

The V O I D wrote:Hey, Norv, Mifan, are y'all both still up for that collab post? Sorry if I'm seeming a bit nagging but just making sure we're still on for that.


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Reverend Norv wrote:In other news, I'll look to get a new post up this weekend for everyone who has responded thus far. So if you want some attention from the U.S., it would be great if you could post in the next few days. Mifan and VOID, we can also try to do that cowrite this weekend too, if that works for you both.

Yea, I have time this weekend to cowrite.

Hoping to get my post out tonight or tomorrow.
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Postby Union Princes » Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:48 pm

Hey Norv, I hope Truman is ready to see pictures of the US ambassador surrounded by Hindu swastikas at Gandhi's funeral. A cultural divide that his presidency will have to explain to the American people.
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Postby Reverend Norv » Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:49 pm

Union Princes wrote:Hey Norv, I hope Truman is ready to see pictures of the US ambassador surrounded by Hindu swastikas at Gandhi's funeral. A cultural divide that his presidency will have to explain to the American people.


...

Or just fire the ambassador. Unfair? Absolutely. The most efficient political option in the middle of the Brown Scare? Yup. The Wise Men will find him a soft landing at some Wall Street law firm making eight times his current salary.
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Postby Union Princes » Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:15 pm

I suppose I'll wait for the OP to have Germany respond to India's invitation before I go on with a Gandhi post
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