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Deblar
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Postby Deblar » Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:10 am

Working on my first IC post, rl has been relentless lately

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The Imperial Warglorian Empire
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:01 pm

Sao Nova Europa wrote:
The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:Could a China heavily influenced by a still existing/dominant Blue Shirt Society work?


Sure, as long as there is no alliance of China with Germany or Italy in the 1940s (as Germany aligned itself with Japan as in RL after some initial cooperation with the KMT China).

China in this TL was allied with the Allies against Imperial Japan (as in RL, except in this TL the US never got involved in the European theater of the war but only in the Pacific). But after the war you can have China distancing itself from US, if you want to do so.

Aight, whatever happened to Pu Yi?
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Union Princes
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Postby Union Princes » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:09 pm

Depending how merciful Chiang is. He is either executed or assimilated into the Kuomingtan
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Sao Nova Europa
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:12 pm

Union Princes wrote:Depending how merciful Chiang is. He is either executed or assimilated into the Kuomingtan


That.

(Though you are free to have someone else rather than Chiang as leader of China, as long as they are KMT)
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“In war, to keep the upper hand, you have to think two or three moves ahead of the enemy.”
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American Pere Housh
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Father Knows Best State

Postby American Pere Housh » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:21 pm

Is it alright if I turn Italy into a neutral nation? I will have my next post up by this Friday as I will be busy with work and Friday is my next day off.
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The Imperial Warglorian Empire
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:30 pm

RESERVATION
NS Name: The Imperial Warglorian Empire
RP Name: Republic of China
Territory: Modern-day China, Taiwan

Do not remove - 1952RP
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Sao Nova Europa
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:34 pm

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:
RESERVATION
NS Name: The Imperial Warglorian Empire
RP Name: Republic of China
Territory: Modern-day China, Taiwan

Do not remove - 1952RP


Taiwan is occupied by commies (and a protectorate of commie Korea). Other than that, reservation accepted. :) :)
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"Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat."
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Sao Nova Europa
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:37 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:Is it alright if I turn Italy into a neutral nation? I will have my next post up by this Friday as I will be busy with work and Friday is my next day off.


Italy should focus on appeasing Germany, and once Germany has been appeased you can develop your economy (perhaps with German aid too?), enlarge your military, expand your influence in Middle East, enhance ties with other European powers, gradually subvert fascists in the ruling party (emphasis on gradually) and await for a moment of crisis to distance yourself from Germany and claim greater independence.

Or you could go immediately against Germany, and have a coup. :)
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Monsone
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Postby Monsone » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:44 pm

Sao Nova Europa wrote:Italy should focus on appeasing Germany, and once Germany has been appeased you can develop your economy (perhaps with German aid too?), enlarge your military, expand your influence in Middle East, enhance ties with other European powers, gradually subvert fascists in the ruling party (emphasis on gradually) and await for a moment of crisis to distance yourself from Germany and claim greater independence.

Or you could go immediately against Germany, and have a coup. :)


There is a third way--I think--but it's basically option two with some extra steps to try and further avert a coup.
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The Imperial Warglorian Empire
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:11 pm

Sao Nova Europa wrote:
The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:
RESERVATION
NS Name: The Imperial Warglorian Empire
RP Name: Republic of China
Territory: Modern-day China, Taiwan

Do not remove - 1952RP


Taiwan is occupied by commies (and a protectorate of commie Korea). Other than that, reservation accepted. :) :)

Wot, la cursed :p
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Nancivania
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Postby Nancivania » Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:33 pm

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:
Sao Nova Europa wrote:
Taiwan is occupied by commies (and a protectorate of commie Korea). Other than that, reservation accepted. :) :)

Wot, la cursed :p

Yeah, I thought it was weird too
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Union Princes
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Postby Union Princes » Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:39 pm

Hey Yaru, you addressed your letter to the wrong guy. The Prime Minister is the Head of Government not the President. Prime Minister Nehru should have been the one addressed
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Postby Yaruqo » Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:08 pm

Union Princes wrote:Hey Yaru, you addressed your letter to the wrong guy. The Prime Minister is the Head of Government not the President. Prime Minister Nehru should have been the one addressed


So the rationale for that is, essentially, HoS does very ceremonial stuff. Accepting condolences for the loss of a national hero would probably fit in the portfolio of a head of state. If it’s too much of an issue, I can go back and edit to include Nehru as well.
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Zedeshia
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Postby Zedeshia » Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:36 pm

Yaruqo wrote:
Zedeshia wrote:First IC post up. Mainly just setting the stage for now but expect a lot more political maneuvering in the future.

As for other news, I may make some minor edits to my application (mostly adjustments to better suit Yaruqo's version of Syria/Lebanon as well as changing the GDP to something more realistic).


Hope I didn’t cause too much trouble! Looking forward to reconquer your Iraqi republics role play with you!


I can’t wait as well, the political games that are about to take place in the Middle East will be interesting to say the least. As for a possible Nasserist revolution in Egypt like Arvenia proposed, expect quite a lot of Iranian support. The more the Nasserists can be turned away from Pan-Arab nationalism and more to the anti-monarchical doctrine of the Socialist Federation, the better for Iran and her allies.
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The Imperial Warglorian Empire
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:56 pm

Right, I made a crappy map so I (and others) can visualise what's occupied with more clarity.

https://imgur.com/a/TaGIUC6

Again, sorry for how crappy it is :p. I couldn't be bothered with all the small islands and the transference of borders from flat earth map to curved earth map makes it more difficult.
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Sao Nova Europa
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:40 am

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:Right, I made a crappy map so I (and others) can visualise what's occupied with more clarity.

https://imgur.com/a/TaGIUC6

Again, sorry for how crappy it is :p. I couldn't be bothered with all the small islands and the transference of borders from flat earth map to curved earth map makes it more difficult.


That looks great. You did a really good job with the map. Thanks. :) :clap: :clap: :clap:

I will be linking to it in the OP.
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“In war, to keep the upper hand, you have to think two or three moves ahead of the enemy.”
- Char Aznable

"Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat."
- Sun Tzu

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:47 am

Zedeshia wrote:
Yaruqo wrote:
Hope I didn’t cause too much trouble! Looking forward to reconquer your Iraqi republics role play with you!


I can’t wait as well, the political games that are about to take place in the Middle East will be interesting to say the least. As for a possible Nasserist revolution in Egypt like Arvenia proposed, expect quite a lot of Iranian support. The more the Nasserists can be turned away from Pan-Arab nationalism and more to the anti-monarchical doctrine of the Socialist Federation, the better for Iran and her allies.

Can we come to some kind of agreement? Because we would love to end our international isolation, and doing that through socialist Iran would be one option. We could help construct the required infrastructure, and perhaps trade steel and machinery for the privilege and for other goods. Perhaps Iran can be our gateway to the world?

There would still be trouble, though; passportless anarchists traveling the globe, for instance.
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Postby HISPIDA » Wed Sep 08, 2021 6:12 am

might update tomorrow or maybe even later today tbh
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Postby The V O I D » Wed Sep 08, 2021 6:23 am

My next post'll be up soon.

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The Imperial Warglorian Empire
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Wed Sep 08, 2021 7:44 am

Sao Nova Europa wrote:
The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:Right, I made a crappy map so I (and others) can visualise what's occupied with more clarity.

https://imgur.com/a/TaGIUC6

Again, sorry for how crappy it is :p. I couldn't be bothered with all the small islands and the transference of borders from flat earth map to curved earth map makes it more difficult.


That looks great. You did a really good job with the map. Thanks. :) :clap: :clap: :clap:

I will be linking to it in the OP.

Oh crap, I forgot about Korea!

My inner China bias is already showing…
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Nancivania
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Postby Nancivania » Wed Sep 08, 2021 7:49 am

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:
Sao Nova Europa wrote:
That looks great. You did a really good job with the map. Thanks. :) :clap: :clap: :clap:

I will be linking to it in the OP.

Oh crap, I forgot about Korea!

My inner China bias is already showing…


Tfw when reduced Finnish borders :(
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Postby The V O I D » Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:55 am

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:
Sao Nova Europa wrote:
That looks great. You did a really good job with the map. Thanks. :) :clap: :clap: :clap:

I will be linking to it in the OP.

Oh crap, I forgot about Korea!

My inner China bias is already showing…


The Democratic People's Republic of Korea only recognizes one China, and that is the People's Republic of China in Taiwan where they act as the Taiwanese Autonomous Protectorate under our glorious Supreme Leader's aegis. The Kuomintang Government is only technically recognized, but internally is thought of as an “occupying force.”

Edit: or, in other words, the feeling is mutual! :p

But yeah, all you need to do is add Korea, it looks like.
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Postby Arvenia » Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:59 am

The V O I D wrote:
The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:Oh crap, I forgot about Korea!

My inner China bias is already showing…


The Democratic People's Republic of Korea only recognizes one China, and that is the People's Republic of China in Taiwan where they act as the Taiwanese Autonomous Protectorate under our glorious Supreme Leader's aegis. The Kuomintang Government is only technically recognized, but internally is thought of as an “occupying force.”

Edit: or, in other words, the feeling is mutual! :p

But yeah, all you need to do is add Korea, it looks like.

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Postby The V O I D » Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:47 pm

Arvenia wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
The Democratic People's Republic of Korea only recognizes one China, and that is the People's Republic of China in Taiwan where they act as the Taiwanese Autonomous Protectorate under our glorious Supreme Leader's aegis. The Kuomintang Government is only technically recognized, but internally is thought of as an “occupying force.”

Edit: or, in other words, the feeling is mutual! :p

But yeah, all you need to do is add Korea, it looks like.

No, the ROC is China, because a Chinese government must control the mainland in order to be China.


that's the joke, unless I myself am now getting bamboozled.

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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:06 pm

Nancivania wrote:
The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:Oh crap, I forgot about Korea!

My inner China bias is already showing…


Tfw when reduced Finnish borders :(

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