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Posted:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:54 pmby South Americanastan
Sauros wrote:Reverend Norv wrote:Unfortunately, I don't really feel confident in my ability to turn that sort of arrangement into solid storytelling. I'm happy just to linger until you are either finished with your app, or until you are confident that you would rather go another direction. But I do appreciate the offer.
Yknow what, I've actually thought it over, and I think that you deserve to rp as the USA 10x over me.
As long as the end result is a demsoc/socdem USA, you can knock yourself out.
OP, if Norv accepts this, retract my America reservation.
Woah...
That was unexpected, to say the least. You plan to app as another nation? We could use a China once Nytoa's reservation runs out, and I could use a South Africa to smuggle us guns.
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Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:01 pmby New New Sriker
Sauros wrote:Reverend Norv wrote:Unfortunately, I don't really feel confident in my ability to turn that sort of arrangement into solid storytelling. I'm happy just to linger until you are either finished with your app, or until you are confident that you would rather go another direction. But I do appreciate the offer.
Yknow what, I've actually thought it over, and I think that you deserve to rp as the USA 10x over me. You have proven yourself to be a highly capable rper, who will be able to keep this rp going much longer than I (a noob) would be able to. In the end, that's all I want: for this rp to be successful, and to be able to see how this scenario plays out over months, a year, or even multiple years.
As long as the end result is a mixed demsoc/socdem (lean demsoc) USA, you can knock yourself out with applying as America.
OP, if Norv accepts this, retract my America reservation.
I hope you find a another good nation to RP as
Posted:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:03 pmby Union Princes
There's Canada, South Africa, Mexico, Brazil, Free France, Greece, Turkey, Saudi Arabia (if possible), Ireland, Romania, Vietnam, Indonesia. Those are pretty high value countries for the cold war
Posted:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:06 pmby HISPIDA
minor update to bulgaria: i've decided to rename the (thracian) greek and macedonian resistances to better fit historical accuracy
the macedonian resistance should now be the National Liberation Army and Partisan Detachments of Macedonia (NOV i POM) and the greek resistance in thrace should be the National Republican Greek League (EDES). for future reference, the former is communist and the latter is liberal
that's all
Posted:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:33 pmby American Pere Housh
Sao Nova Europa wrote:American Pere Housh wrote:APPLICATION
NS Name:American Pere Housh
RP Name:The Kingdom of Italy
I will be accepting it, if you remove Greece from your claims. Greece can be a client state of Italy and you can have Italian troops stationed at strategic checkpoints in Greek territory, but not annex Greece wholly. As long as that is corrected, you will be accepted.
That is fine by me.
Posted:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:35 pmby American Pere Housh
Union Princes wrote:There's Canada, South Africa, Mexico, Brazil, Free France, Greece, Turkey, Saudi Arabia (if possible), Ireland, Romania, Vietnam, Indonesia. Those are pretty high value countries for the cold war
Greece is a Client state of Italy so if you wish to be my puppet then I'm fine with it.
Posted:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:44 pmby Wasi State
Is there a map of the current state of the world?
Posted:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:46 pmby HISPIDA
Wasi State wrote:Is there a map of the current state of the world?
i don't think it would be impossible to make one tbh
Posted:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:15 pmby Reverend Norv
Sauros wrote:Reverend Norv wrote:Unfortunately, I don't really feel confident in my ability to turn that sort of arrangement into solid storytelling. I'm happy just to linger until you are either finished with your app, or until you are confident that you would rather go another direction. But I do appreciate the offer.
Yknow what, I've actually thought it over, and I think that you deserve to rp as the USA 10x over me. You have proven yourself to be a highly capable rper, who will be able to keep this rp going much longer than I (a noob) would be able to. In the end, that's all I want: for this rp to be successful, and to be able to see how this scenario plays out over months, a year, or even multiple years.
As long as the end result is a mixed demsoc/socdem (lean demsoc) USA, you can knock yourself out with applying as America.
OP, if Norv accepts this, retract my America reservation.
That's a magnificently generous gesture. My picture for the US is not exactly a left-wing utopia, but it does reflect the exigencies of holding the New Deal coalition together in the face of a global great-power competition with the fascist world. For that reason alone, it will be somewhat more left-leaning than the RL course of US history - albeit that, like any real-world nation, it is never quite reducible to a particular ideology. I'll get to work this weekend, and I hope to do justice to your hopes. I also hope to see you apply as another nation; this is shaping up to be a lot of fun, and I'd hate to lose you.
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Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:16 pmby Union Princes
Reverend Norv wrote:That's a magnificently generous gesture. My picture for the US is not exactly a left-wing utopia, but it does reflect the exigencies of holding the New Deal coalition together in the face of a global great-power competition with the fascist world. For that reason alone, it will be somewhat more left-leaning than the RL course of US history - albeit that, like any real-world nation, it is never quite reducible to a particular ideology. I'll get to work this weekend, and I hope to do justice to your hopes. I also hope to see you apply as another nation; this is shaping up to be a lot of fun, and I'd hate to lose you.
I recommend going as Canada or Mexico to do a North American tag team
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Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:33 pmby American Pere Housh
Union Princes wrote:Reverend Norv wrote:That's a magnificently generous gesture. My picture for the US is not exactly a left-wing utopia, but it does reflect the exigencies of holding the New Deal coalition together in the face of a global great-power competition with the fascist world. For that reason alone, it will be somewhat more left-leaning than the RL course of US history - albeit that, like any real-world nation, it is never quite reducible to a particular ideology. I'll get to work this weekend, and I hope to do justice to your hopes. I also hope to see you apply as another nation; this is shaping up to be a lot of fun, and I'd hate to lose you.
I recommend going as Canada or Mexico to do a North American tag team
Don't expect Italy to remain a friend of Germany as Mussolini is dead so Italy has been slowly but surely distancing itself from Germany plus Italy has been beefing up its military especially its Navy.
Posted:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:41 pmby Monsone
Is it still possible to apply for the RP?
Posted:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:47 pmby American Pere Housh
Monsone wrote:Is it still possible to apply for the RP?
It is still open.
Posted:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:56 pmby Monsone
RESERVATION
NS Name: Monsone
RP Name: Dominion of Canada
Territory: All IRL Canadian territory as of 1952.
Do not remove - 1952RP
Posted:
Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:30 amby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
American Pere Housh wrote:Union Princes wrote:I recommend going as Canada or Mexico to do a North American tag team
Don't expect Italy to remain a friend of Germany as Mussolini is dead so Italy has been slowly but surely distancing itself from Germany plus Italy has been beefing up its military especially its Navy.
I don’t know if I would call this ‘slowly’. The EEC is not like the EU; I don’t think Germany will take kindly to Italy leaving their sphere.
And I imagine the antisemite wing of the Italian fascists would be none too happy with their ‘liberal’ king, especially if he seeks to distance himself from Germany.
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Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:12 amby American Pere Housh
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:American Pere Housh wrote:Don't expect Italy to remain a friend of Germany as Mussolini is dead so Italy has been slowly but surely distancing itself from Germany plus Italy has been beefing up its military especially its Navy.
I don’t know if I would call this ‘slowly’. The EEC is not like the EU; I don’t think Germany will take kindly to Italy leaving their sphere.
And I imagine the antisemite wing of the Italian fascists would be none too happy with their ‘liberal’ king, especially if he seeks to distance himself from Germany.
Well Italy is independent plus the antisemite wing is fairly tiny representing only 5% of the Royalist Party. Support for antisemitism in Italy never got really high in Italy.
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Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:56 amby Sao Nova Europa
American Pere Housh wrote:Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:I don’t know if I would call this ‘slowly’. The EEC is not like the EU; I don’t think Germany will take kindly to Italy leaving their sphere.
And I imagine the antisemite wing of the Italian fascists would be none too happy with their ‘liberal’ king, especially if he seeks to distance himself from Germany.
Well Italy is independent plus the antisemite wing is fairly tiny representing only 5% of the Royalist Party. Support for antisemitism in Italy never got really high in Italy.
Actually the pro-German elements in Italy are higher. I was going to warn that Italy leaving the ECC immediately (as opposed to gradually disengaging from Germany and then leaving the ECC) wasn't going to work out too well for Italy.
Without giving spoiler alert, some of the first events of the RP will be about the response of pro-German elements in Italy.
[Generally speaking, doing something radical at once in this RP will usually lead to some mixed results; gradualism is usually the way to go on foreign policy]
Posted:
Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:57 amby Sao Nova Europa
Monsone wrote:RESERVATION
NS Name: Monsone
RP Name: Dominion of Canada
Territory: All IRL Canadian territory as of 1952.
Do not remove - 1952RP
Reservation accepted.
Do remember to check out UK's app, since Canada has some backstory already.
Posted:
Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:01 amby Sao Nova Europa
Reverend Norv wrote:Sauros wrote:Yknow what, I've actually thought it over, and I think that you deserve to rp as the USA 10x over me. You have proven yourself to be a highly capable rper, who will be able to keep this rp going much longer than I (a noob) would be able to. In the end, that's all I want: for this rp to be successful, and to be able to see how this scenario plays out over months, a year, or even multiple years.
As long as the end result is a mixed demsoc/socdem (lean demsoc) USA, you can knock yourself out with applying as America.
OP, if Norv accepts this, retract my America reservation.
That's a magnificently generous gesture. My picture for the US is not exactly a left-wing utopia, but it does reflect the exigencies of holding the New Deal coalition together in the face of a global great-power competition with the fascist world. For that reason alone, it will be somewhat more left-leaning than the RL course of US history - albeit that, like any real-world nation, it is never quite reducible to a particular ideology. I'll get to work this weekend, and I hope to do justice to your hopes. I also hope to see you apply as another nation; this is shaping up to be a lot of fun, and I'd hate to lose you.
Welcome to the RP. US reservation added.
Sauros, do you want me to reserve you another nation? China's reservation expires today, so I think it might be a good choice. We need a China after all since it's supposed to be one of the major players in Asia.
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Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:10 amby Helliniki Katastasis
Sao Nova Europa wrote:American Pere Housh wrote:Well Italy is independent plus the antisemite wing is fairly tiny representing only 5% of the Royalist Party. Support for antisemitism in Italy never got really high in Italy.
Actually the pro-German elements in Italy are higher. I was going to warn that Italy leaving the ECC immediately (as opposed to gradually disengaging from Germany and then leaving the ECC) wasn't going to work out too well for Italy.
Without giving spoiler alert, some of the first events of the RP will be about the response of pro-German elements in Italy.
[Generally speaking, doing something radical at once in this RP will usually lead to some mixed results; gradualism is usually the way to go on foreign policy]
The player had some friction in another RP with dramatic changes like this, with him as the CCP abandoning Taiwan and assassinating Xi Jinping. I think he just has a thing for quick changes that aren't necessarily historically plausible.
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Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:25 amby Union Princes
Pere, what you just did is completely shortsighted. You need to dismantle Mussolini's fascist government before you can consider distancing from Germany, much less abandon the ECC. Even then, his popularity is still high from winning WWII, making it impossible for the King to go behind his policies. What you need is either an economic disaster to negate the fascist legitimacy or finding a grievance against Germany. You have completely overlooked that Italy lost Istria to Germany, one of the few pieces of land gained from WW1. You should've had the Italian Fascists be pissed off at Germany taking it.
And another thing, the Italian king had no power. It's all on Il Duce. So it's physically impossible for the King to simply have Italy leave the ECC.
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Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:54 amby Sao Nova Europa
The King has power, since Italy is a royalist dictatorship according to the app, so that is alright. However, the Fascists have a lot of influence in the government, and a sizeable number of officials (civil and military) are pro-German or of conservative disposition. So suddenly announcing something so radical is bound to have consequences.
Would have warned, but Pere posted before I could post about it OOC. But those consequences will be detailed in an Events post.
On the other hand, it might create some interesting scenarios Pere will have to navigate, so it might turn out to be interesting.
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Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:20 amby The Palmetto
Sao Nova Europa wrote:The Palmetto wrote:What borders does Free France have, is it basically all of sub-Saharan French Africa? Also: is Algeria independent?
Free France has basically all of sub-Saharan French Africa. As for Algeria, it can be independent or under Free French rule. Up to you (assuming you app as Free France). Though if you do claim Algeria, overextension is going to be one of the problems.
I'll probably include Algeria, which would probably be the "core" of the nation, seeing as it has the most French people. As of the moment, Free France is probably some sort of colonial federation, with notable concessions to the native population out of necessity.
How would Free France have gotten Algeria though? Did Vichy France never own it, or did a military coup occur like in some other Vichy colonies IRL?
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Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:26 amby The Palmetto
RESERVATION
NS Name: The Palmetto
RP Name: French Union
Territory: Algeria (core), French West Africa, French Equatorial Africa, Cameroon, French Caribbean (including Guiana), and the French Pacific
Do not remove - 1952RP
Based on the IRL
French Union, though I may have a modified system in place. I'm impartial to the various small islands, so I have no issue dropping them/having them under US occupation.
Posted:
Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:23 amby Sauros
Union Princes wrote:Reverend Norv wrote:That's a magnificently generous gesture. My picture for the US is not exactly a left-wing utopia, but it does reflect the exigencies of holding the New Deal coalition together in the face of a global great-power competition with the fascist world. For that reason alone, it will be somewhat more left-leaning than the RL course of US history - albeit that, like any real-world nation, it is never quite reducible to a particular ideology. I'll get to work this weekend, and I hope to do justice to your hopes. I also hope to see you apply as another nation; this is shaping up to be a lot of fun, and I'd hate to lose you.
I recommend going as Canada or Mexico to do a North American tag team
Aight, it's Canada time then!
Edit: Monsone reserved Canada already. I guess I'll just reserve Mexico for rn.