The Coldest War (Alt-Hist Cold War RP - OOC)

[Hopal]

I'm still alive. I'm hoping to get a post up by the end of the week on the British response to the U.S. letter to the South Rhodesian government, the Brits trying to set up negotiations between Italy and Germany to keep relations between them at least workable, and perhaps the reaction of some officials on Gandhi's assassination. I'm sorry if I haven't been too active, Irl responsibilities have gotten in the way. But I do really like this RP so I'll try to commit more time to it, enough to a post a week at least.

Don't forget Sudan, mate.

I haven't, though cabinet might have, at least until you do something about it. This government mostly just does damage control tbh. Though it is going to fall apart soon.

[The New Byzantine II]

Is the UK player inactive or active? I'm planning to set up a meeting with the United States regarding Sabah, after the elections are done in the Philippines and United States of course.

I'm still alive. I'm hoping to get a post up by the end of the week on the British response to the U.S. letter to the South Rhodesian government, the Brits trying to set up negotiations between Italy and Germany to keep relations between them at least workable, and perhaps the reaction of some officials on Gandhi's assassination. I'm sorry if I haven't been too active, Irl responsibilities have gotten in the way. But I do really like this RP so I'll try to commit more time to it, enough to a post a week at least.

No worries, man, IRL comes first so it's understandable. I'm just asking if the UK player (which is you) is active or not. Don't worry, our interaction IC-wise will not happen anytime soon especially with the current pace of the RP.

[Arvenia]

Don't forget Sudan, mate.

I haven't, though cabinet might have, at least until you do something about it. This government mostly just does damage control tbh. Though it is going to fall apart soon.

If we go to war, your forces won't win (because they got reduced after WW2).

[Yaruqo]

Speaking of Egypt, Arvenia, I am working on an IC post, but I probably won’t be able to post until next week at the earliest due to RL constraints. Haven’t forgotten your response, but I do plan on solidifying the Syria-Egypt partnership somehow.

[Arvenia]

Speaking of Egypt, Arvenia, I am working on an IC post, but I probably won’t be able to post until next week at the earliest due to RL constraints. Haven’t forgotten your response, but I do plan on solidifying the Syria-Egypt partnership somehow.

Okay.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Whatever happened to the various anti-Hitler conspirators and their sympathisers? Like Goedeler, Stauffenberg, Canaris, Oster, etc?

[Union Princes]

Whatever happened to the various anti-Hitler conspirators and their sympathisers? Like Goedeler, Stauffenberg, Canaris, Oster, etc?

I'm guessing they either got caught, turned to the US, or try to work within the system to curb the excesses of Nazism

[Union Princes]

Made a list for Charles B. Cory franchise continuing into the 70s.

• The Pharoahs of the Sand (1971) (1962) Synopsis: Agent Cory heads to Egypt in order to disrupt another Nazi spy ring planning to a Pro-German candidate into power. When Cory disrupts the plot, the Germans switch to a more aggressive action of assassinating the the Egyptian King. That way, they'll be able to seize the Suez Canal from the resulting crisis. Allowing with the Egyptian secret agents, Cory manages to prevent the plot from going through.
• Black Gold under the Red Sand (1973) Synopsis: The most groundbreaking film in the franchise so far, the movie includes Syrians, Egyptians, Arabs, Persians and even Indian characters as either friends, foes, or third party rivals to the British spy. Islamic terrorism is on the rise in the Middle East and Agent Cory has a mission to find out why and to contain the threat. A movie that plays like a reverse Lawrence of Arabia, 007 has to aid the monarchist and socialist regimes in protecting their oil wells from being seized by the terrorists.
  
• A Spy's Trade (1974) Synopsis: A Charles Cory movie set in the Indian Federation, the titular Agent is assigned to Lahore in order to investigate a new strain of Islamic terrorism in the region. Possibly the only Charles Cory film with the highest kill count in the series, the Agent ends up engaged in a bloody turf war caught between the crossfire of Islamic and Hindu ultranationalists. The film gained minor controversy in India when it was filmed there because the audience thought that the film makers didn't make the Hindu terrorists evil enough. One signature scene from the movie was a Nepali policeman killing 60 terrorists using only his Kukri just so he could fine Agent Cory for jaywalking. This gave rise to the trope "Nepalese with Nasty Knives" in later Hollywood movies.
• Spies Like Us (1977) Synopsis: Riding off the popularity from A Spy's Trade, Agent Cory is back in India where he encounters even more eccentric personalities from the India's Intelligence
  Bureau such as a Buddhist monk, a mustache-twirling Sikh, a brainy Bengali, and a Gurkha. Unlike the normal themes of espionage, this movie was more action oriented with numerous comedy scenes in between. Before becoming popular in India, it was first met with controversy of how the film oversimplified Indian society and race relations.
• Suneater (1979) Synopsis: The Nazis have developed the sun gun, a super weapon that can concentrate sunlight reflected off of solar panels to roast cities in a beam of light. With the rise of the science fiction genre, the film makers decided to have Agent Cory fly to space in a rocket ship to bring down the wonder weapon.

[Mifan]

Hey Rev, question. How would the US feel if the land reform bill either failed to get through or got through but with significant changes?

[Nancivania]

I'm just gonna go ahead and assume that the EEC alliance looks something like this:

Leader:
-Germany

Full members which have a defensive pact with Germany:
-Slovakia
-Hungary
-Romania
-Bulgaria
-Independent State of Croatia (???)
-Another post-Yugoslav state making up the rest of former Yugoslavia (???)

Full members which do not have a defensive pact with Germany:
-France
-Finland
-Spain

Microstates which don't really matter but may or may not be members:
-Monaco
-Andorra
-San Marino (probably the least likely to have joined in the first place)

Recently departed states:
-Italy
-Albania (Italian puppet)
-Greece (Italian puppet)

[Sao Nova Europa]

I'm just gonna go ahead and assume that the EEC alliance looks something like this:

Most likely, yes.

[Sao Nova Europa]

Whatever happened to the various anti-Hitler conspirators and their sympathisers? Like Goedeler, Stauffenberg, Canaris, Oster, etc?

I'm guessing they either got caught, turned to the US, or try to work within the system to curb the excesses of Nazism

Exactly.

[South Americanastan]

Hey Rev, question. How would the US feel if the land reform bill either failed to get through or got through but with significant changes?

Be like me, don’t ask and make your stupid decision that would have massive effect on world opinion blind.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Just to remind myself (and for future event posts): some anarchist militias (including a contingent of Cossacks) are travelling to Greece to partake in the civil war there, on the communist side.

[New New Sriker]

I'm guessing they either got caught, turned to the US, or try to work within the system to curb the excesses of Nazism

Exactly.

As mentioned in my post, Stauffenberg is still active in the German military while Tresckow, one of the leaders of the July 20th Plot, is now in charge of the German garrison in France. Another thing about France is that while the Germans do operate a Garrison, The National Republic is only economically tied to the EEC, not a member of a defensive pact, as for my post I will try getting one out soon School hit like a truck and I'm still trying to fix my schedule

[Nancivania]

I realized there's a situation coming up that may cause a bit of a crisis.

Egypt is gonna be having issues with Marxists soon IC and Italy said that they'd likely try to seize the Suez Canal should that happen. If Italy and America are not on good enough terms at that point there could be a crisis of America fearing their Mediterranean squadron may end up being trapped in the Mediterranean. America takes steps to try and prevent Italy from seizing the canal, crisis ensues.

This may or may not happen depending on how Rome-Washington relations normalize now that Italy has left the EEC. But judging from the tone of America's post where they were evacuating the refugees, America still sees Italy as a threat or possible enemy and would likely not enjoy them slamming the backdoor of the Mediterranean while they're still hanging around.

[Nancivania]

Exactly.

As mentioned in my post, Stauffenberg is still active in the German military while Tresckow, one of the leaders of the July 20th Plot, is now in charge of the German garrison in France. Another thing about France is that while the German's do operate a Garrison, The National Republic is only economically tied to the EEC, not a member of a defensive pact, as for my post I will try getting one out soon School hit like a truck and I'm still trying to fix my schedule

List revised then I suppose

[New New Sriker]

I realized there's a situation coming up that may cause a bit of a crisis.

Egypt is gonna be having issues with Marxists soon IC and Italy said that they'd likely try to seize the Suez Canal should that happen. If Italy and America are not on good enough terms at that point there could be a crisis of America fearing their Mediterranean squadron may end up being trapped in the Mediterranean. America takes steps to try and prevent Italy from seizing the canal, crisis ensues.

This may or may not happen depending on how Rome-Washington relations normalize now that Italy has left the EEC. But judging from the tone of America's post where they were evacuating the refugees, America still sees Italy as a threat or possible enemy and would likely not enjoy them slamming the backdoor of the Mediterranean while they're still hanging around.

Italy will also have the issue of the Syrians and even maybe even the Iranians sending help to Egypt, a united Middle East is an enemy no one would want to make

[Union Princes]

Bose would definitely press Nehru to aid Egypt against both Italian and American influence. It will be a three way tug of war between India, Italy, and America

[Reverend Norv]

Hey Rev, question. How would the US feel if the land reform bill either failed to get through or got through but with significant changes?

MacArthur hates the bill, so he wouldn't mind one bit. Washington, however, would take it as a very worrying sign of the influence - and potential defiance - of the landlords, many of whom the U.S. considers to be right-wing imperialist diehards. It would be taken as a warning that Japan might be backsliding. For the Diet, the safest thing is probably to pass it with meaningful changes; that would upset Washington, but not enough to actually do anything about it. As far as the Wise Men are concerned, that sort of minor setback is really just a part of life in democratic politics.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Made a list for Charles B. Cory franchise continuing into the 70s.

• The Pharoahs of the Sand (1971) (1962) Synopsis: Agent Cory heads to Egypt in order to disrupt another Nazi spy ring planning to a Pro-German candidate into power. When Cory disrupts the plot, the Germans switch to a more aggressive action of assassinating the the Egyptian King. That way, they'll be able to seize the Suez Canal from the resulting crisis. Allowing with the Egyptian secret agents, Cory manages to prevent the plot from going through.
• Black Gold under the Red Sand (1973) Synopsis: The most groundbreaking film in the franchise so far, the movie includes Syrians, Egyptians, Arabs, Persians and even Indian characters as either friends, foes, or third party rivals to the British spy. Islamic terrorism is on the rise in the Middle East and Agent Cory has a mission to find out why and to contain the threat. A movie that plays like a reverse Lawrence of Arabia, 007 has to aid the monarchist and socialist regimes in protecting their oil wells from being seized by the terrorists.
  
• A Spy's Trade (1974) Synopsis: A Charles Cory movie set in the Indian Federation, the titular Agent is assigned to Lahore in order to investigate a new strain of Islamic terrorism in the region. Possibly the only Charles Cory film with the highest kill count in the series, the Agent ends up engaged in a bloody turf war caught between the crossfire of Islamic and Hindu ultranationalists. The film gained minor controversy in India when it was filmed there because the audience thought that the film makers didn't make the Hindu terrorists evil enough. One signature scene from the movie was a Nepali policeman killing 60 terrorists using only his Kukri just so he could fine Agent Cory for jaywalking. This gave rise to the trope "Nepalese with Nasty Knives" in later Hollywood movies.
• Spies Like Us (1977) Synopsis: Riding off the popularity from A Spy's Trade, Agent Cory is back in India where he encounters even more eccentric personalities from the India's Intelligence
  Bureau such as a Buddhist monk, a mustache-twirling Sikh, a brainy Bengali, and a Gurkha. Unlike the normal themes of espionage, this movie was more action oriented with numerous comedy scenes in between. Before becoming popular in India, it was first met with controversy of how the film oversimplified Indian society and race relations.
• Suneater (1979) Synopsis: The Nazis have developed the sun gun, a super weapon that can concentrate sunlight reflected off of solar panels to roast cities in a beam of light. With the rise of the science fiction genre, the film makers decided to have Agent Cory fly to space in a rocket ship to bring down the wonder weapon.

Wow, ought to make a dedicated sub forum or fanfic or something dedicated to writing out this stuff.

Maybe a sub RP describing these movie's events or the process through which their being made in universe.

Lol, imagine twenty years from now: the Nazi regime's either collapsed or mellowed through (like with Gorbachev and the USSR), so the producers of Charles Cory ask for permission to film in Germania and the Volkshalle or something.

Imagine, Cory battling through SS guards in the hallways of the Volkshalle, before entering the main atrium where he ziplines down across the entire thing.

[South Americanastan]

Hey Rev, question. How would the US feel if the land reform bill either failed to get through or got through but with significant changes?

MacArthur hates the bill, so he wouldn't mind one bit. Washington, however, would take it as a very worrying sign of the influence - and potential defiance - of the landlords, many of whom the U.S. considers to be right-wing imperialist diehards. It would be taken as a warning that Japan might be backsliding. For the Diet, the safest thing is probably to pass it with meaningful changes; that would upset Washington, but not enough to actually do anything about it. As far as the Wise Men are concerned, that sort of minor setback is really just a part of life in democratic politics.

Now that I've already made the decision to oust Huggins and install Smith (I've sent the post to Hopal and am waiting for him to ad-lib the envoy's parts in). What would the United States' reaction be to Huggin's ouster and Smith's continuation of property requirements?

[Reverend Norv]

MacArthur hates the bill, so he wouldn't mind one bit. Washington, however, would take it as a very worrying sign of the influence - and potential defiance - of the landlords, many of whom the U.S. considers to be right-wing imperialist diehards. It would be taken as a warning that Japan might be backsliding. For the Diet, the safest thing is probably to pass it with meaningful changes; that would upset Washington, but not enough to actually do anything about it. As far as the Wise Men are concerned, that sort of minor setback is really just a part of life in democratic politics.

Now that I've already made the decision to oust Huggins and install Smith (I've sent the post to Hopal and am waiting for him to ad-lib the envoy's parts in). What would the United States' reaction be to Huggin's ouster and Smith's continuation of property requirements?

Pretty furious, considering that the U.S. just publicly committed, in front of the world press, to doing whatever was necessary to assist Huggins in continuing his reforms. The OSS will probably set immediately to work trying to counter-coup Smith before he can build ties to the Reich.

[South Americanastan]

Now that I've already made the decision to oust Huggins and install Smith (I've sent the post to Hopal and am waiting for him to ad-lib the envoy's parts in). What would the United States' reaction be to Huggin's ouster and Smith's continuation of property requirements?

Pretty furious, considering that the U.S. just publicly committed, in front of the world press, to doing whatever was necessary to assist Huggins in continuing his reforms. The OSS will probably set immediately to work trying to counter-coup Smith before he can build ties to the Reich.

I mean, Smith isn't going to pursue relations with the Reich, for both "It's the Nazis" and political reasons (About 45-55% of Rhodesian Whites are only there because they fled from the Reich), so at least I have that going for me. Also, I wouldn't necessarily call it a coup, as it's through perfectly legal means (The RF manages to flip two URP Representatives, giving them the majority), and they're looking for a peaceful settlement with Britain. So at least I have that going for me.

[Reverend Norv]

Pretty furious, considering that the U.S. just publicly committed, in front of the world press, to doing whatever was necessary to assist Huggins in continuing his reforms. The OSS will probably set immediately to work trying to counter-coup Smith before he can build ties to the Reich.

I mean, Smith isn't going to pursue relations with the Reich, for both "It's the Nazis" and political reasons (About 45-55% of Rhodesian Whites are only there because they fled from the Reich), so at least I have that going for me. Also, I wouldn't necessarily call it a coup, as it's through perfectly legal means (The RF manages to flip two URP Representatives, giving them the majority), and they're looking for a peaceful settlement with Britain. So at least I have that going for me.

None of that means that it won't be exceptionally embarrassing for the U.S. to publicly praise Huggins' reforms in front of the entire world, and then immediately have Huggins booted from power and his reforms reversed. Truman will quite understandably want to repair that damage as efficiently as possible. A superpower deciding to invest itself in your domestic affairs is a dangerous thing, after all.