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The Imperial Warglorian Empire
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:10 pm

The V O I D wrote:
The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:Oh crap, I forgot about Korea!

My inner China bias is already showing…


The Democratic People's Republic of Korea only recognizes one China, and that is the People's Republic of China in Taiwan where they act as the Taiwanese Autonomous Protectorate under our glorious Supreme Leader's aegis. The Kuomintang Government is only technically recognized, but internally is thought of as an “occupying force.”

Edit: or, in other words, the feeling is mutual! :p

But yeah, all you need to do is add Korea, it looks like.

I'll occupy you in a minute you bloody *mumble mumble mumble*
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:20 pm

Here's the corrected map with Korea in beautiful pantone

https://imgur.com/a/UkbiITU
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Postby Union Princes » Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:30 pm

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:Here's the corrected map with Korea in beautiful pantone

https://imgur.com/a/UkbiITU


Italy is lacking the Dalmatian coastline and puppets in the Balkans as well as Libya and Ethiopia. The British colonies of Somalia would have been incorporated into. Italian East Africa
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Postby Nancivania » Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:36 pm

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NS Name: Kingdom of Nancivania
RP Name: Republic of Finland
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Capital: Helsinki
Territory: Pre-WW2 Finland
Population: 4,120,000

Official Language(s): Finnish and Swedish
Ethnic Breakdown: 90% Finnish, 7% Swedish 3% Others
Religious Breakdown: 94% Lutheran %6 Other

Type of Government: Democratic Republic
Head of State: President Juho Kusti Paasikivi
Head of Government: Prime Minister Urho Kekkonen
Legislature: Parliament of Finland
Party in Power: National Coalition Party
National Issues:

1. Dominated by Germany - Every aspect of our foreign policy is dictated by our sole neighbor and the local superpower that is Germany. The Germans have long wanted complete domination of Finland, but our huge army, lack of strategic importance, willingness to comply with German demands and status as a fellow Aryan people has so far kept this from occurring. How long this should continue remains to be seen

2. Maintenance of disproportionate military - Our huge military is necessary to maintain national sovereignty and a modicum of independence. It is also horrifically expensive and taxing. It must be maintained at all costs.

3. The Swedes - Many Swedes have moved to Finland since the German conquest of their home country, settling mostly in pre-existing Swedish populations and Helsinki. They maintain the only notable minority population of Finland. They could be a threat to Finland's interests should they begin calls for independence, but this is unlikely as their homeland is presently occupied by Germany. Unfortunately, said occupation renders them far less likely to follow along with Finland's appeasement policy towards the Reich, making many of them tend more to the radical left then would be desirable.

Public Goals: Maintain positive and constructive relations with the rest of the EEC, especially Germany
Private Goals: Maintain status as an independent democracy by remaining a non-threatening but difficult to invade nation

GDP: 5.2 billion USD
Currency: Finnish Markka
Economic System: Free-market semi-regulated capitalism
Major Trade Partners: Germany
Alliance(s): EEC

Military Branches: Finnish Army, Finnish Navy, Finnish Air Force, Finnish Border Guard (wartime only)

Active Duty: 15,500
Reserve Duty: ~650,000
Total Manpower: ~755,000 total fit for service

Land Forces:
-52 Panzer III (modified and updated for Finnish use)
-27 assorted extremely outdated tanks of various types
-314 armored vehicles
-256 artillery pieces of various sizes

Air Force:
-3 Stuka dive bombers
-4 Heinkel He 111 medium bombers
-26 Focke-Wulf Fw 190 fighters
-22 Heinkel He 162 jet fighters
-5 transport aircraft
-7 water-landing transport aircraft

Naval Forces:
-3 corvettes
-6 gunboats
-6 submarines
-3 minelayers
-60 small attack craft
-104 auxiliary vehicles
-4 icebreakers

Other Military Information: Universal conscription for males is followed. War planning is almost exclusively defensive and based on guerilla and hit and run tactics

History: Originally a neutral nation, Finland's first foray into the WW2 was sparked when the Soviet Union invaded the small country to take control of border regions. Despite the Finn's legendary tenacity and the huge causalities inflicted on the Red Army they eventually lost this war, ceding large sums of Karelian territory to the Russians. Angered by this, the Finns were more than happy to continue their fight with the Reds upon the Germans beginning operation Barbarossa. They retook their territory and managed to push even further into Northern Russia. However, as the war progressed, the Nazi regime became increasingly began to push demands onto Finland, eventually Finland caves and assists Germany both in the siege of Leningrad, and in cutting the Northern rail lines preventing British help from reaching Russia. By 1942 the Russians are pushed beyond the Urals and are defeated.

Finnish gains don't last long, after the German occupation of Sweden in 1944 the Finns are strong-armed into handing over all the new territory they occupied from Russia to Germany. A demand they comply with, content with regaining their lost territories at least. It's at this point the situation truly sinks into the minds of Finland. Germany now surrounds Finland on all sides, and has far more leverage over Finnish policy then Russia ever did. In 1948 Finnish Jews and other undesirables are voluntarily deported to Germany. Finlandization takes it's final form in 1950 as President Paasikivi is elected. He takes the stance of surrendering Finnish foreign policy to Germany and maintaining the Finnish armed forces as a huge force in order to appease the Germans while maintaining an independent domestic policy. That same year, Finland joins the EEC
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Dark was the night, the blackness of the city was yet further darkened by the torrential downpour going on. Anon of course didn't care, shitty weather was just part of the job description. Laying on his stomach, coat draped over himself and eyes looking through a pair of binoculars he watched his target through a closed window. From his apartment complex rooftop position Anon watched as the target paced around his living room while talking into his phone. It was a rather large living room, even considering the fact that the target lived in a penthouse. Not that Anon cared of course, such luxuries were something he stopped enjoying years ago. Just another thing he's lost after years on the job. The target was obviously getting quite riled up with whomever he was talking to over the phone. Eventually, the target through his phone across the room, smashing itself on an unseen wall, he dropped into his loveseat, face in his hands. The walkie-talkie hiding under the coat along with the rest of him crackled to life.

"Central to Agent-Omicron, report in"

"Here boss" Anon mutters into the square comms device, not taking his eyes off the despaired target

"You may now take the shot, we've obtained what we need"

Agent-Omicron puts down the binoculars and reaches for the sniper rifle next to him. He slides the bolt forward, moving the round into the firing chamber with satisfying fluidity before aiming down the sights at the target.

The crosshairs line up with the center of the target's chest. Anon briefly thinks to himself that it's unfortunate the last conversation the target will have was destined to be such a seemingly unpleasant one as his finger gently squeezes the trigger

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Leader - King Marton II
Capital - Orka
Population - 35,351,804 est
Currency - Wakka
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Persian Mortals (planned) - Gallic Kingdom
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Nancivania
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Postby Nancivania » Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:37 pm

Union Princes wrote:
The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:Here's the corrected map with Korea in beautiful pantone

https://imgur.com/a/UkbiITU


Italy is lacking the Dalmatian coastline and puppets in the Balkans as well as Libya and Ethiopia. The British colonies of Somalia would have been incorporated into. Italian East Africa

And don't forget Finland obviously
National Information
Leader - King Marton II
Capital - Orka
Population - 35,351,804 est
Currency - Wakka
Roleplay Information
Beyond The Void (planned) - Escojian Empire
Persian Mortals (planned) - Gallic Kingdom
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The Imperial Warglorian Empire
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Wed Sep 08, 2021 5:04 pm

Union Princes wrote:
The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:Here's the corrected map with Korea in beautiful pantone

https://imgur.com/a/UkbiITU


Italy is lacking the Dalmatian coastline and puppets in the Balkans as well as Libya and Ethiopia. The British colonies of Somalia would have been incorporated into. Italian East Africa


Is this confirmed or just speculation? Because his app only says "All Italian Territories held in 1952 plus Greece"

Yes, I know, "1952 in this world," but I don't know what alternate WWII Italy in this world's 1952 looks like, that's why I'm making the map :p.
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Wed Sep 08, 2021 5:07 pm

Nancivania wrote:
Union Princes wrote:
Italy is lacking the Dalmatian coastline and puppets in the Balkans as well as Libya and Ethiopia. The British colonies of Somalia would have been incorporated into. Italian East Africa

And don't forget Finland obviously

Again, you haven't been accepted yet.
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Wed Sep 08, 2021 5:11 pm

Nancivania wrote:
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RP Name: Republic of Finland


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- Guo Jing ‘The Brave Archer’.

“In war, to keep the upper hand, you have to think two or three moves ahead of the enemy.”
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Wed Sep 08, 2021 5:14 pm

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:
Union Princes wrote:
Italy is lacking the Dalmatian coastline and puppets in the Balkans as well as Libya and Ethiopia. The British colonies of Somalia would have been incorporated into. Italian East Africa


Is this confirmed or just speculation? Because his app only says "All Italian Territories held in 1952 plus Greece"

Yes, I know, "1952 in this world," but I don't know what alternate WWII Italy in this world's 1952 looks like, that's why I'm making the map :p.


Once again, thanks for the map.

I would assume Libya and Ethiopia are Italian colonies. As for the Balkans, I would leave them blank in case someone wants to join there as an ally and/or puppet of Italy. Also Greece should be an independent puppet state of Italy.

I could make the map, if you want to. :)
Don't want to trouble you with constant map revisions. :p
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- Guo Jing ‘The Brave Archer’.

“In war, to keep the upper hand, you have to think two or three moves ahead of the enemy.”
- Char Aznable

"Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat."
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Wed Sep 08, 2021 5:21 pm

Updated the map with independent Greece, Italian colonies in Africa and Finland: MAP

French (colonial) Africa (including Algeria) should also be added to the map as Free France, but will be doing that tomorrow.
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"I’ve just bitten a snake. Never mind me, I’ve got business to look after."
- Guo Jing ‘The Brave Archer’.

“In war, to keep the upper hand, you have to think two or three moves ahead of the enemy.”
- Char Aznable

"Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat."
- Sun Tzu

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Union Princes
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Postby Union Princes » Wed Sep 08, 2021 5:24 pm

Sao Nova Europa wrote:Updated the map with independent Greece, Italian colonies in Africa and Finland: MAP

French (colonial) Africa (including Algeria) should also be added to the map as Free France, but will be doing that tomorrow.


How come Italian colonies stayed the same despite a Axis victory in Europe? Italy doesn't have British Somalia nor Tunisia
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Wed Sep 08, 2021 5:27 pm

Union Princes wrote:
Sao Nova Europa wrote:Updated the map with independent Greece, Italian colonies in Africa and Finland: MAP

French (colonial) Africa (including Algeria) should also be added to the map as Free France, but will be doing that tomorrow.


How come Italian colonies stayed the same despite a Axis victory in Europe? Italy doesn't have British Somalia nor Tunisia


Will be adding Tunisia as Italian tomorrow.

About British Somalia, I am inclined to give them to Italy but British player should be consulted first since Italian app did not claim the area and British app did.

Also, expect Events the day after tomorrow. :)
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"I’ve just bitten a snake. Never mind me, I’ve got business to look after."
- Guo Jing ‘The Brave Archer’.

“In war, to keep the upper hand, you have to think two or three moves ahead of the enemy.”
- Char Aznable

"Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat."
- Sun Tzu

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Postby Hopal » Wed Sep 08, 2021 6:09 pm

Sao Nova Europa wrote:
Union Princes wrote:
How come Italian colonies stayed the same despite a Axis victory in Europe? Italy doesn't have British Somalia nor Tunisia


Will be adding Tunisia as Italian tomorrow.

About British Somalia, I am inclined to give them to Italy but British player should be consulted first since Italian app did not claim the area and British app did.

Also, expect Events the day after tomorrow. :)

I will give up Eritrea to the Italy since they lost it during World War II in the East Africa Campaign, which probably wouldn't happen or go as successfully in this timeline, given what happened in Dunkirk and all. And I am willing to give up Somaliland, though I would like to see a proper backstory developed beforehand, perhaps Italy gains Somaliland after driving the British out after the East Africa Campaign?
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The Imperial Warglorian Empire
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Wed Sep 08, 2021 6:26 pm

Sao Nova Europa wrote:Updated the map with independent Greece, Italian colonies in Africa and Finland: MAP

French (colonial) Africa (including Algeria) should also be added to the map as Free France, but will be doing that tomorrow.

https://imgur.com/a/qbzWQ9Q

Gave Finland pre-WWII borders as requested
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The New Byzantine II
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Postby The New Byzantine II » Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:01 pm

APPLICATION
NS Name: The New Byzantine II
RP Name: Federal People's Socialist Republic of Maharlika
Flag: This one
Capital: Manila
Territory: Philippines
Population: 20,000,000

Official Language(s): Maharlikan (based on Tagalog language), Spanish (based on Philippine Spanish dialect), English
Ethnic Breakdown: Maharlika is a highly multicultural, multiethnic and multiracial country. Tagalogs and Visayans dominate the archipelago. The rest are the Kastilyanos (Spaniards), Bangsamoro (Muslims), Lumads, Cordillerans, and other ethnic groups & cultural communities.
Religious Breakdown: Maharlika is officially an irreligious state however the communist government under Luis Taruc's moderate faction, allowed Christian religions such as Roman Catholicism, Protestantism, Iglesia Ni Cristo and alike to continue their practice of their religious beliefs as long as they don't interfere state affairs. Unofficially making the country secular.

Type of Government: Federal parliamentary one-party Marxist-Leninist socialist republic
Head of State: General Secretary Luis Taruc
Head of Government: Prime Minister Vicente Lava
Legislature: Batasang Pambansa (or in English; National Legislature)
Legislative Houses: None.
Party in Power: Partido Komunista ng Maharlika (formerly called Partido Komunista ng Pilipinas)
National Issues: Mention three (3) issues - domestic and foreign - that plague your nation and which you need to tackle in order to prosper.

(1) Philippine government loyalists - The Philippine government loyalists are basically people who are still affiliated to the independent pro-US Philippine government (also known as the Third Republic) who are exiled to the United States which was ousted by the Hukbalahap forces in September 21, 1948. These are the people who don't recognize the ruling communist government and are now fighting in the rural areas until their last breath. They are considered a thorn by the government as they are firmly supported by the United States of America as there are a lot of people supporting the last government.

(2) Rising Muslim separatists / Moro nationalism - In the southern region of Mindanao, it is home to Muslim cultural communities who call themselves "Bangsamoro" or the Muslim Nation in the Tausug language. The separatists have been fighting for their independence and for their rights as a people since the Spanish era. Although they are in a weak position, it's best to negotiate with the Muslims rather than fighting since the communist government recognized the Bangsamoro people as one of their people. Maharlikan Muslims. Although the Muslims are still skeptical on the communist government due to their ideology.

(3) Surrounded by Hostility - Right now, despite being a communist nation, Maharlika is the second richest country in Asia next to Japan (just like IRL Philippines until 1980s) which means almost all of Maharlika's neighbors are envy of their riches. Maharlika is by far the only richest communist nation in the world which means the West especially the United States has its EYES on them. Maharlika is the only (moderate) communist nation in Southeast Asia and is somewhat isolated from the rest of the international community. Surrounded by the resurging Nationalist China & Korea in the North which they really don't trust (despite Korea being communist). The United States in the East. British Malaya in the South. Maharlika itself is isolated and they have the right to be hostile especially that Maharlika's neighbors are firmly anti-communist (except Korea). Right now, Maharlika is in a defensive position.

Public Goals:
> Recognize its sovereignty as the legitimate government of the archipelago instead of the US-backed "Philippines".
> Give equal rights of workers, farmers and the marginalized who were wronged during the American colonial era and the Japanese occupation. > Rebuild the economy using the mixture of capitalism and democratic socialism to avoid rebellion from the rich.
> Implement the "unity through diversity" (giving free education to ethnic cultural communities such as Lumads, Cordillerans, Aetas until they graduate in college. Anti Tagalog-centrism. Pro-federalism)
> Reform the Maharlikan education system by showing the (1) true history of the archipelago. From pre-colonial up to now. Show the good sides and bad sides of the Spanish colonial era especially the American colonial era. (2) Promoting science, research and technology to increase literacy and lastly (3) introducing the ancient scripts "Baybayin" and its regional counterparts which will be applicable to Spanish and the regional languages such as Tagalog and Visayan.
Private Goals:
> Stray away from the mainstream communism/Marxist-Leninist line and create the authentic Maharlikan democratic socialist line.
> Befriend the West (except the US).
> Reengineer US military equipments into Maharlikan-esque one.
> Open economy. FDI is a must.
> Root out the elitists/hacienderos/oligarchs and replaced them by other wealthy people thru meritocracy.
> Expand the industry of all fields. Restructure the Maharlikan society and culture (cultural revival that could combine the precolonial-like and modern aesthetics = Maharlikan culture).
> End the socioeconomic hierarchy that have suffered the predecessors (Filipinos) up to this day.
> "Unity through diversity" = Shared destiny (nationalism).
> Promote naval patrols in the seas.

GDP (nominal): 18 billion USD
Currency: Maharlikan peso
Economic System: Mixed economy; capitalism & democratic socialism
Major Trade Partners: Japan, Korea
Alliance(s): None.

Military Branches (names of official Armed Forces Branches): The People's Armed Forces of Maharlika (PAFM) is divided into five branches; Maharlikan People's Army, Maharlikan People's Navy, Maharlikan People's Air Force, Maharlikan People's Marines and the Maharlikan People's Special Forces

Active Duty: 200,000 active soldiers (due to the pockets of the Philippine government remnant cells). A majority of them are battle-hardened veteran from the Japanese occupation and the Hukbalahap Rebellon. Some of them are from the Philippine Army who defected to the Revolution.
Reserve Duty: 500,000 reservists
Total Manpower: 700,000

Land Forces: Approximately 120,000 forces. Most of their military equipments came from the United States and the confiscated Imperial Japanese weaponry during the occupation era. The Maharlikan People's Army are considered battle-hardened veterans of the American era, Second World War and the August Revolution (OTL Hukbalahap Rebellion). The People's Army are consists of veteran communist guerillas and defected Philippine forces. Right now, they're currently fighting against the American-backed loyalist rebels in the rural areas of Maharlika (especially in the South).

Air Force: Approximately 30,000. The Air Forces are mostly the former Philippine Air Force. Their military airplanes came from the United States as well - with their main fighting forces being the P-51 Mustang, a fighter-bomber and its redesignated F-51 jet fighters. The Maharlikan People's Air Force is by far the most technologically-advanced air force in Asia.

Naval Forces: Approximately 50,000. The People's Navy are mostly confiscated US & Philippine warships that were stationed in Port Subic which means they are technologically-advanced and well-equipped as well. The Maharlikan People's Navy is one of the best-equipped navies in Asia despite its lacking sailors.

Other Military Information: Overall, the Maharlikan military is currently the well-equipped, battle-hardened, and disciplined forces you'll ever met in this planet. Comprised of former guerillas and defected Philippine armies.

History: The turning point is where Luis Taruc, his men and communist sympathizers launched a general strike from Central Luzon up to Manila after the negotiations fell apart in August 14, 1948 (instead of hiding back to the mountains IRL) which attracted a lot of people. The purpose of this general strike is despite the Huks (term of the first-generation communists in the Philippines) surrendering to the Philippine Armed Forces, they were beaten up to death which was exposed to the general public. The news reached to the four corners of the archipelago using the advanced technology of the Americans. Tagalogs, Visayans, and other ethnic groups joined together to oppose the increasingly authoritarian government. The populace have now seen the true colors of the independent Philippine government under President Elpidio Quirino. Many people flocked to join the peaceful general strike which ended into a violent protest as government forces opened fire against the communist sympathizers and even civilians who were just watching the scenario. This event spread nationwide to the point where people have begun to clamor for "social democracy" as Elpidio Quirino's administration has becoming increasingly authoritarian.

Elpidio Quirino's government caused controversy across the political spectrum, though especially from the left. It grew still less popular with the continued attacks from the Huks despite the rebels surrendering to the government. It seems the tables have turned. After the events of the General Strike, it turned into a revolution. “MURDER – GUNFIRE – REVOLUTION”, these were the chants of the people. Half of the military forces including the navy and air forces were convinced and joined the Huks as they are fighting for the "people" (which is true). The people were quick to run to Malacanang and successfully ousted the government. Elpidio Quirino was hanged to death and the Interim People's Government was established in September 21, 1948. The Philippine government was exiled to the United States. The local government units across the archipelago quickly recognized the new communist government in the Philippines.

By 1950, the constitution is finished and it'll be called the "People's Constitution" (which is a carbon copy of 1973 Constitution). The Federal People's Socialist Republic of Maharlika was formed. The reason why the country's name was changed is because the Communist Party claimed that it's to achieve a national rebirth and that they are finally free from colonialism. The July 4, 1946 independence holiday was scraped and is replaced by the September 21, 1948 People's Revolution Day as this signifies the total independence from the Americans and the puppet government. Despite being a young and a rich communist country, Maharlika is surrounded by hostility internally and externally. Internally is because of loyalists and Muslims. Externally is because of the United States of America and possibly the Republic of China. Maharlika up to now is still rebuilding and is yet to reach its full potential (despite being militarily and economically powerful).

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Postby Nancivania » Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:06 pm

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:
Sao Nova Europa wrote:Updated the map with independent Greece, Italian colonies in Africa and Finland: MAP

French (colonial) Africa (including Algeria) should also be added to the map as Free France, but will be doing that tomorrow.

https://imgur.com/a/qbzWQ9Q

Gave Finland pre-WWII borders as requested

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National Information
Leader - King Marton II
Capital - Orka
Population - 35,351,804 est
Currency - Wakka
Roleplay Information
Beyond The Void (planned) - Escojian Empire
Persian Mortals (planned) - Gallic Kingdom
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Postby The National Dominion of Hungary » Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:14 pm

Hey VOID, think Kim and Kaganovich might find some common ground? :)
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Postby Union Princes » Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:26 am

The New Byzantine II wrote:
APPLICATION
NS Name: The New Byzantine II
RP Name: Federal People's Socialist Republic of Maharlika
Flag: This one
Capital: Manila
Territory: Philippines
Population: 20,000,000

Official Language(s): Maharlikan (based on Tagalog language), Spanish (based on Philippine Spanish dialect), English
Ethnic Breakdown: Maharlika is a highly multicultural, multiethnic and multiracial country. Tagalogs and Visayans dominate the archipelago. The rest are the Kastilyanos (Spaniards), Bangsamoro (Muslims), Lumads, Cordillerans, and other ethnic groups & cultural communities.
Religious Breakdown: Maharlika is officially an irreligious state however the communist government under Luis Taruc's moderate faction, allowed Christian religions such as Roman Catholicism, Protestantism, Iglesia Ni Cristo and alike to continue their practice of their religious beliefs as long as they don't interfere state affairs. Unofficially making the country secular.

Type of Government: Federal parliamentary one-party Marxist-Leninist socialist republic
Head of State: General Secretary Luis Taruc
Head of Government: Prime Minister Vicente Lava
Legislature: Batasang Pambansa (or in English; National Legislature)
Legislative Houses: None.
Party in Power: Partido Komunista ng Maharlika (formerly called Partido Komunista ng Pilipinas)
National Issues: Mention three (3) issues - domestic and foreign - that plague your nation and which you need to tackle in order to prosper.

(1) Philippine government loyalists - The Philippine government loyalists are basically people who are still affiliated to the independent pro-US Philippine government (also known as the Third Republic) who are exiled to the United States which was ousted by the Hukbalahap forces in September 21, 1948. These are the people who don't recognize the ruling communist government and are now fighting in the rural areas until their last breath. They are considered a thorn by the government as they are firmly supported by the United States of America as there are a lot of people supporting the last government.

(2) Rising Muslim separatists / Moro nationalism - In the southern region of Mindanao, it is home to Muslim cultural communities who call themselves "Bangsamoro" or the Muslim Nation in the Tausug language. The separatists have been fighting for their independence and for their rights as a people since the Spanish era. Although they are in a weak position, it's best to negotiate with the Muslims rather than fighting since the communist government recognized the Bangsamoro people as one of their people. Maharlikan Muslims. Although the Muslims are still skeptical on the communist government due to their ideology.

(3) Surrounded by Hostility - Right now, despite being a communist nation, Maharlika is the second richest country in Asia next to Japan (just like IRL Philippines until 1980s) which means almost all of Maharlika's neighbors are envy of their riches. Maharlika is by far the only richest communist nation in the world which means the West especially the United States has its EYES on them. Maharlika is the only (moderate) communist nation in Southeast Asia and is somewhat isolated from the rest of the international community. Surrounded by the resurging Nationalist China & Korea in the North which they really don't trust (despite Korea being communist). The United States in the East. British Malaya in the South. Maharlika itself is isolated and they have the right to be hostile especially that Maharlika's neighbors are firmly anti-communist (except Korea). Right now, Maharlika is in a defensive position.

Public Goals:
> Recognize its sovereignty as the legitimate government of the archipelago instead of the US-backed "Philippines".
> Give equal rights of workers, farmers and the marginalized who were wronged during the American colonial era and the Japanese occupation. > Rebuild the economy using the mixture of capitalism and democratic socialism to avoid rebellion from the rich.
> Implement the "unity through diversity" (giving free education to ethnic cultural communities such as Lumads, Cordillerans, Aetas until they graduate in college. Anti Tagalog-centrism. Pro-federalism)
> Reform the Maharlikan education system by showing the (1) true history of the archipelago. From pre-colonial up to now. Show the good sides and bad sides of the Spanish colonial era especially the American colonial era. (2) Promoting science, research and technology to increase literacy and lastly (3) introducing the ancient scripts "Baybayin" and its regional counterparts which will be applicable to Spanish and the regional languages such as Tagalog and Visayan.
Private Goals:
> Stray away from the mainstream communism/Marxist-Leninist line and create the authentic Maharlikan democratic socialist line.
> Befriend the West (except the US).
> Reengineer US military equipments into Maharlikan-esque one.
> Open economy. FDI is a must.
> Root out the elitists/hacienderos/oligarchs and replaced them by other wealthy people thru meritocracy.
> Expand the industry of all fields. Restructure the Maharlikan society and culture (cultural revival that could combine the precolonial-like and modern aesthetics = Maharlikan culture).
> End the socioeconomic hierarchy that have suffered the predecessors (Filipinos) up to this day.
> "Unity through diversity" = Shared destiny (nationalism).
> Promote naval patrols in the seas.

GDP (nominal): 18 billion USD
Currency: Maharlikan peso
Economic System: Mixed economy; capitalism & democratic socialism
Major Trade Partners: Japan, Korea
Alliance(s): None.

Military Branches (names of official Armed Forces Branches): The People's Armed Forces of Maharlika (PAFM) is divided into five branches; Maharlikan People's Army, Maharlikan People's Navy, Maharlikan People's Air Force, Maharlikan People's Marines and the Maharlikan People's Special Forces

Active Duty: 200,000 active soldiers (due to the pockets of the Philippine government remnant cells). A majority of them are battle-hardened veteran from the Japanese occupation and the Hukbalahap Rebellon. Some of them are from the Philippine Army who defected to the Revolution.
Reserve Duty: 500,000 reservists
Total Manpower: 700,000

Land Forces: Approximately 120,000 forces. Most of their military equipments came from the United States and the confiscated Imperial Japanese weaponry during the occupation era. The Maharlikan People's Army are considered battle-hardened veterans of the American era, Second World War and the August Revolution (OTL Hukbalahap Rebellion). The People's Army are consists of veteran communist guerillas and defected Philippine forces. Right now, they're currently fighting against the American-backed loyalist rebels in the rural areas of Maharlika (especially in the South).

Air Force: Approximately 30,000. The Air Forces are mostly the former Philippine Air Force. Their military airplanes came from the United States as well - with their main fighting forces being the P-51 Mustang, a fighter-bomber and its redesignated F-51 jet fighters. The Maharlikan People's Air Force is by far the most technologically-advanced air force in Asia.

Naval Forces: Approximately 50,000. The People's Navy are mostly confiscated US & Philippine warships that were stationed in Port Subic which means they are technologically-advanced and well-equipped as well. The Maharlikan People's Navy is one of the best-equipped navies in Asia despite its lacking sailors.

Other Military Information: Overall, the Maharlikan military is currently the well-equipped, battle-hardened, and disciplined forces you'll ever met in this planet. Comprised of former guerillas and defected Philippine armies.

History: The turning point is where Luis Taruc, his men and communist sympathizers launched a general strike from Central Luzon up to Manila after the negotiations fell apart in August 14, 1948 (instead of hiding back to the mountains IRL) which attracted a lot of people. The purpose of this general strike is despite the Huks (term of the first-generation communists in the Philippines) surrendering to the Philippine Armed Forces, they were beaten up to death which was exposed to the general public. The news reached to the four corners of the archipelago using the advanced technology of the Americans. Tagalogs, Visayans, and other ethnic groups joined together to oppose the increasingly authoritarian government. The populace have now seen the true colors of the independent Philippine government under President Elpidio Quirino. Many people flocked to join the peaceful general strike which ended into a violent protest as government forces opened fire against the communist sympathizers and even civilians who were just watching the scenario. This event spread nationwide to the point where people have begun to clamor for "social democracy" as Elpidio Quirino's administration has becoming increasingly authoritarian.

Elpidio Quirino's government caused controversy across the political spectrum, though especially from the left. It grew still less popular with the continued attacks from the Huks despite the rebels surrendering to the government. It seems the tables have turned. After the events of the General Strike, it turned into a revolution. “MURDER – GUNFIRE – REVOLUTION”, these were the chants of the people. Half of the military forces including the navy and air forces were convinced and joined the Huks as they are fighting for the "people" (which is true). The people were quick to run to Malacanang and successfully ousted the government. Elpidio Quirino was hanged to death and the Interim People's Government was established in September 21, 1948. The Philippine government was exiled to the United States. The local government units across the archipelago quickly recognized the new communist government in the Philippines.

By 1950, the constitution is finished and it'll be called the "People's Constitution" (which is a carbon copy of 1973 Constitution). The Federal People's Socialist Republic of Maharlika was formed. The reason why the country's name was changed is because the Communist Party claimed that it's to achieve a national rebirth and that they are finally free from colonialism. The July 4, 1946 independence holiday was scraped and is replaced by the September 21, 1948 People's Revolution Day as this signifies the total independence from the Americans and the puppet government. Despite being a young and a rich communist country, Maharlika is surrounded by hostility internally and externally. Internally is because of loyalists and Muslims. Externally is because of the United States of America and possibly the Republic of China. Maharlika up to now is still rebuilding and is yet to reach its full potential (despite being militarily and economically powerful).

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Postby The New Byzantine II » Thu Sep 09, 2021 2:53 am

To be honest, Philippines still being a "US protectorate" after the war is really UNLIKELY since the United States is willing to give them independence via Tyding-Mcduffie Act. I ignored the history of the US app because he didn't mentioned any consequences if the Philippines is still the so-called US protectorate. Filipinos (including government officials) would literally rebel against the pro-US Philippine government and would likely side with the Communists who have already reached its zenith at that time.

And, the United States player is inactive. Unless me and the US player will talk about this together with the OPs, I don't see why not. Let the OPs decide.
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Thu Sep 09, 2021 3:26 am

Firstly, the app looks pretty good, however I cannot review/accept it without consultation between you and the US.

The US app states that the American 'protectorate' of the Philippines is akin that of Japan, which means that the territory is not directly administered by the US and that local politicians are employed. So, like Japan, while American influence is greater, it is not a colonial territory.

Specifically the app mentions: "The U.S. also has two formal protectorates: recognized sovereign states for which the U.S. has legally assumed a duty of defense and "democratic mentorship". These are the Philippines and Japan." - "Finally, the U.S. protectorate over Japan and the Philippines has many features of an alliance, albeit a substantially unequal one." This sounds more like dependence to the US and less like outright colonial administration.

It should also be noted that in this TL, the US is more willing to work with socialist governments since the ideological divide in the Cold War is not between Capitalists and Communists, but rather between Fascists and anti-Fascists. So a socialist (but not outright communist) government would not be impossible even with US overlordship.

Lastly, the American player is active and they have also shown a willingness to talk with other players about the relations between the US and other nations.

So, I will reserve the Philippines for you and I am not outright against accepting you (since your app is good), but you have to first consult with Reverend Norv about the relations between the Philippines and the US. I am sure you can come up with some reasonable compromise/agreement to ensure everyone enjoys this RP. :)
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Postby Arvenia » Thu Sep 09, 2021 4:17 am

Political Parties of the Kingdom of Egypt (I got kinda bored and made this list for fun)
  • Liberal Constitutional Party (LCP) - Centre-left (Constitutionalism, Progressivism and Social Liberalism)
  • Wafd Party (WP) - Centre-right (Egyptian Nationalism, National Liberalism, Liberal Conservatism and Anti-Imperialism)
  • Egyptian National Party (ENP) - Right-wing (Egyptian Nationalism, National Conservatism, Anti-Imperialism, Right-Wing Populism and Anglophobia)
  • Saadist Institutional Party (SIP) - Centre (Royalism and Liberalism)
  • United Arab Party (UAP) - Left-wing to far-left (Arab Nationalism, Arab Socialism, Pan-Arabism, Anti-Imperialism, Secularism, Republicanism, Left-Wing Nationalism and Left-Wing Populism)
  • National Jihadist Party (NJP) - Far-right (Islamism, Fascism, National Conservatism, Anti-Capitalism, Anti-Communism and Pan-Arabism)
  • Ittihad Party (IP) - Centre-right to right-wing (Islamic Democracy, Social Conservatism, Royalism and Anti-Western Sentiment)
  • Coptic People's Party (CPP) - Centre-right (Coptic Interests, Christian Democracy, Social Conservatism and Religious Pluralism)
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Postby Reverend Norv » Thu Sep 09, 2021 4:21 am

Yes, I am emphatically still around and working on an IC post.

To be clear, the U.S. would not attempt to impose direct insular rule, as before Tyding-McDuffie. It would instead opt to extend the Commonwealth of the Philippines: the period of self-government that preceded independence. That means democratic elections, a democratically written (and amendable) Constitution, Filipino police and administrators, and Filipino control over domestic policy. That includes the power to implement left-wing reforms, since the U.S. in this timeline regards most leftists as allies against the Reich. On the other hand: U.S. troops would remain, the U.S. military would have primary responsibility for the country's defense, trade with the U.S. would be on favorable terms, and the U.S. would have a legal veto over foreign policy decisions by the Filipino government. Those restrictions reflect the reasons why the U.S. would not have withdrawn entirely from the Philippines: not because it wants to crush Filipino leftism, but because the islands are geostrategically crucial in the global Emergency against fascism. Washington cares about defense and foreign policy issues, not about local economic reforms.

So I'd be fine with one of two options:

  • You could adapt your app so that the communists simply won a free and fair election in 1948, therefore becoming the government of the Commonwealth of the Philippines: an outcome that the U.S., in this timeline, would absolutely allow and possibly even celebrate. Taruc would then be free to implement his program of national rebirth, educational reform, workers' rights, land redistribution, minority rights, and democratic socialism - all while the Philippines remained allied to the U.S., under U.S. protection, and with limits on its foreign policy autonomy. Taruc might well seek full independence through peaceful negotiation with Washington over the course of the IC, and I'd be happy to roleplay out those conversations. But in this scenario, the communists and the Americans are partners and uneasy allies, as well as rivals: they have to work together to meet both sides' goals. This is how the Japan player and I are likely to manage Japan's situation.

  • You could also adapt your app so that the communists are a powerful insurgency fighting the government of the Commonwealth of the Philippines - and, therefore, the U.S. Army. In this scenario, I think the communists would surely control large rural areas of the country, and have major support in urban areas, but they wouldn't control big cities or the most economically valuable areas of the country. Instead, the communists would likely be stuck in a fight against U.S. and government troops that neither side can win decisively. We would also need to think of a reason why they rebelled in the first place, since the U.S. would have been prepared to cooperate with them as in the first option: perhaps Taruc lost an election and decided it was rigged? In any case, I'd be happy to work with you on admitting Maharlika as a rebel movement.

The one thing I will not accept - because the U.S. would never accept it - is the takeover of the Philippines by an openly anti-American government in the middle of the U.S. global struggle against fascism. Washington simply would not permit such an important geostrategic asset to slip away, especially not when its ties to the U.S. are so profound and longstanding. The humiliation alone would be dispositive. Either of the options above reflects the reality that the U.S. would not, in the middle of the Emergency, simply withdraw all its forces from the Philippines and go home. I'd be happy to explore either of those options further with you.
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Postby The New Byzantine II » Thu Sep 09, 2021 4:49 am

My bad. I thought you were inactive because you haven't posted in the IC. Apologies.

Anyway, since the Cold War is drastically different from our own timeline, I've just realized that the United States in this timeline are more open to leftist ideologies than in our world. I think the United States & the Commonwealth government and Hukbalahap would open negotiations fairly rather than IRL since I assume that the United States isn't anti-communist in this timeline. And Hukbalahap or the first-generation Filipino communists are more democratic socialists & populists rather than being part of mainstream communism even in IRL. I'll go to the first option since neither sides wanted to destroy the Philippines.

Since I've agreed to the first option, I just wanted to make clear if the Communist Party is now considered legal instead of being banned (due to Red Scare and shit that happened in the US) in the Philippine politics, has its own armed wing paramilitary (kinda like the Schutzstaffel of Germany's NSDAP). If they are legal, they would be the third major political party in the Philippines representing the left. If you agree on this, Luis Taruc and the Communist Party's anti-American perspective will slowly fade away although the deep contempt is still there, simply because of history, especially on the Filipino genocide & what happened in the Philippine-American War in general. The first-generation Communist Party were remnants of the First Republic.

And is it okay if I become increasingly rebellious or having a large liberty desire as the time goes by? After all, Luis Taruc's goal has always been total independence from the Philippines. At this point, the Filipinos would've been increasingly clamor for independence because of the Communist Party's authentic programs.
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Postby Reverend Norv » Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:31 am

The New Byzantine II wrote:My bad. I thought you were inactive because you haven't posted in the IC. Apologies.

Anyway, since the Cold War is drastically different from our own timeline, I've just realized that the United States in this timeline are more open to leftist ideologies than in our world. I think the United States & the Commonwealth government and Hukbalahap would open negotiations fairly rather than IRL since I assume that the United States isn't anti-communist in this timeline. And Hukbalahap or the first-generation Filipino communists are more democratic socialists & populists rather than being part of mainstream communism even in IRL. I'll go to the first option since neither sides wanted to destroy the Philippines.

Since I've agreed to the first option, I just wanted to make clear if the Communist Party is now considered legal instead of being banned (due to Red Scare and shit that happened in the US) in the Philippine politics, has its own armed wing paramilitary (kinda like the Schutzstaffel of Germany's NSDAP). If they are legal, they would be the third major political party in the Philippines representing the left. If you agree on this, Luis Taruc and the Communist Party's anti-American perspective will slowly fade away although the deep contempt is still there, simply because of history, especially on the Filipino genocide & what happened in the Philippine-American War in general. The first-generation Communist Party were remnants of the First Republic.

And is it okay if I become increasingly rebellious or having a large liberty desire as the time goes by? After all, Luis Taruc's goal has always been total independence from the Philippines. At this point, the Filipinos would've been increasingly clamor for independence because of the Communist Party's authentic programs.


The Commonwealth of the Philippines has pretty considerable authority over its own internal affairs. It can decide whether or not to ban the Communist Party; the U.S. won't interfere with that decision. The party's armed paramilitary will elicit strong U.S. disapproval, precisely because Americans associate it with the Nazis and other authoritarian parties: if you really trust elections and the democratic process, then you don't need an armed wing to exercise power by force. The U.S. will try to persuade and pressure Taruc to disband the armed wing. But even then, as long as the paramilitary 1) doesn't interfere in foreign policy or the democratic process, and 2) doesn't threaten U.S. troops and officials in the country, then the Commonwealth government has final say over whether or not it's legal. Political paramilitaries are a domestic issue, and so outside the realm of direct American control. In short: those are both issues for you, as the Philippines player, to decide for yourself.

As for independence, it is of course inevitable that both the Philippines and Japan will seek ultimate independence: the withdrawal of American troops, the termination of American election-monitoring, and the end of American control over matters of trade, military, and foreign policy. The U.S. doesn't want to stay in those countries forever, either. But progress toward independence will need to be gradual and carefully managed, because Washington needs to be absolutely certain that it is trading a protectorate for a reliable, loyal, independent ally. Especially for a historically anti-American party like the communists, it will be necessary to build a lot of trust with the U.S. in order to make progress toward final independence. That will be an interesting roleplaying challenge for us both.
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Postby The New Byzantine II » Thu Sep 09, 2021 6:22 am

Alright, then it's settled.

I will update the application by Saturday because I have a flight tomorrow.
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