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Zedeshia
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Founded: Sep 25, 2019
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Zedeshia » Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:59 pm

First IC post up. Mainly just setting the stage for now but expect a lot more political maneuvering in the future.

As for other news, I may make some minor edits to my application (mostly adjustments to better suit Yaruqo's version of Syria/Lebanon as well as changing the GDP to something more realistic).
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Yaruqo
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Founded: Sep 02, 2019
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Postby Yaruqo » Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:48 pm

Zedeshia wrote:First IC post up. Mainly just setting the stage for now but expect a lot more political maneuvering in the future.

As for other news, I may make some minor edits to my application (mostly adjustments to better suit Yaruqo's version of Syria/Lebanon as well as changing the GDP to something more realistic).


Hope I didn’t cause too much trouble! Looking forward to reconquer your Iraqi republics role play with you!
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HISPIDA
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Founded: Jun 21, 2021
Anarchy

Postby HISPIDA » Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:39 pm

fuck, india and i had the same idea for our next post
different contexts obv and i'll probably still post it but damn
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Union Princes
Senator
 
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Founded: Nov 02, 2017
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Union Princes » Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:45 pm

Is no one gonna comment on Gandhi's assassination?
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Sauros
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Founded: Apr 24, 2020
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Sauros » Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:48 pm

Union Princes wrote:Is no one gonna comment on Gandhi's assassination?

Ironically that might be what Gandhi would've wanted, seeing as he was honestly pretty humble. Or he could be rolling in his grave. Who knows?
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Monsone
Minister
 
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Founded: Apr 14, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Monsone » Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:54 pm

Got an IC post up, mostly setting the stage for future plans and events.
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Union Princes
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Founded: Nov 02, 2017
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Union Princes » Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:55 pm

I'll wait for a few more posts before I write in Nehru next
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Draos
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Founded: May 25, 2018
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Postby Draos » Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:19 am

Anyone have a link for a population of Oceania in 1952?
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Sao Nova Europa
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Founded: Apr 20, 2019
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:24 am

Draos wrote:Anyone have a link for a population of Oceania in 1952?


Australia and New Zealand.
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Sao Nova Europa
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:25 am

Union Princes wrote:Is no one gonna comment on Gandhi's assassination?


It will be mentioned in the Events post.
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Draos
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Postby Draos » Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:30 am

Sao Nova Europa wrote:
Draos wrote:Anyone have a link for a population of Oceania in 1952?


Australia and New Zealand.

So Roughly 13 mil got it
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Draos
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Postby Draos » Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:33 am

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8%Aboriginal 5%Maori
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Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
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Founded: Feb 20, 2012
Democratic Socialists

Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:34 am

Beutarch wrote:
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I think there will be an interesting tension between the Commonwealth's appeal to more syndicalist elements in Vladivostock, and the government's reliance on the US to fuel its fleet, keep its economy afloat, and so on. They probably can't afford to align so closely with Chelyabinsk that they lose the support of Washington. Walking that line will be a fun challenge.

In other news, I am quite busy until Wednesday, but will start work Thursday on an IC post, with an eye to finishing it by the end of Saturday.

I was just about to mention this: the Commonwealth's vision of a reunited USSR is probably the closest with Vladivostok, and I could see the Fleet being integrated as some sort of large soldiers-sailors union, but, that will likely have to be relegated to the political back-burner for practical reasons.

Yeah, existing institutions will probably not give up their position in favour of total worker control; even a socialist state would be opposed to such a move. Nationalised control and collectivised control are far away from one another. At the same time, such a revolution would alienate the West, including the US, and that is economically not viable.

The only reason the Commonwealth could become syndicalist is because the established government disappeared almost overnight. Actually taking power is another story, and idealism will make way for pragmatism; something that is less relevant for the Commonwealth, as they are internationally isolated anyway.
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Yaruqo
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Founded: Sep 02, 2019
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Postby Yaruqo » Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:24 am

Union Princes wrote:Is no one gonna comment on Gandhi's assassination?

I’m still working on my IC post, I’ll see if I can throw in a little something
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Arvenia
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Postby Arvenia » Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:31 am

What should my first IC post be all about?
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The Imperial Warglorian Empire
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:00 am

Any significant nations or areas that need to be filled out?
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Monsone
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Postby Monsone » Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:00 am

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:Any significant nations or areas that need to be filled out


China I think is still unfilled.
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Sao Nova Europa
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:33 am

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:Any significant nations or areas that need to be filled out?


We really, really need a KMT-led China. China is the rising power in East Asia and it undermines European colonialism. It is an important player in the world sphere, and we need them, so joining as China would be awesome. :)

Aside from China, South Asia (with the exception of Greater India) and South America are open.
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“In war, to keep the upper hand, you have to think two or three moves ahead of the enemy.”
- Char Aznable

"Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat."
- Sun Tzu

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Arvenia
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Postby Arvenia » Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:36 am

Arvenia wrote:What should my first IC post be all about?

Can anyone answer my question?
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Sao Nova Europa
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:38 am

Arvenia wrote:What should my first IC post be all about?


Some ideas: Addressing the dispute with UK over Sudan? Enacting industrial policies to promote economic growth? Perhaps seeking an understanding with Syria-Levant against socialist Iran? It's all up to you.
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- Char Aznable

"Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat."
- Sun Tzu

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Arvenia
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Postby Arvenia » Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:40 am

Sao Nova Europa wrote:
Arvenia wrote:What should my first IC post be all about?


Some ideas: Addressing the dispute with UK over Sudan? Enacting industrial policies to promote economic growth? Perhaps seeking an understanding with Syria-Levant against socialist Iran? It's all up to you.

More like planning an eventual annexation of Sudan and a possible Nasserist revolution.
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Union Princes
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Postby Union Princes » Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:42 am

Egypt could also try approaching India or Germany for international support
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The Imperial Warglorian Empire
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:44 am

Sao Nova Europa wrote:
The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:Any significant nations or areas that need to be filled out?


We really, really need a KMT-led China. China is the rising power in East Asia and it undermines European colonialism. It is an important player in the world sphere, and we need them, so joining as China would be awesome. :)

Aside from China, South Asia (with the exception of Greater India) and South America are open.

Could a China heavily influenced by a still existing/dominant Blue Shirt Society work?
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Arvenia
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Postby Arvenia » Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:49 am

Union Princes wrote:Egypt could also try approaching India or Germany for international support

Egypt might also approach Free France, the US or even the Arab world.
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Sao Nova Europa
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:04 am

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:
Sao Nova Europa wrote:
We really, really need a KMT-led China. China is the rising power in East Asia and it undermines European colonialism. It is an important player in the world sphere, and we need them, so joining as China would be awesome. :)

Aside from China, South Asia (with the exception of Greater India) and South America are open.

Could a China heavily influenced by a still existing/dominant Blue Shirt Society work?


Sure, as long as there is no alliance of China with Germany or Italy in the 1940s (as Germany aligned itself with Japan as in RL after some initial cooperation with the KMT China).

China in this TL was allied with the Allies against Imperial Japan (as in RL, except in this TL the US never got involved in the European theater of the war but only in the Pacific). But after the war you can have China distancing itself from US, if you want to do so.
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- Guo Jing ‘The Brave Archer’.

“In war, to keep the upper hand, you have to think two or three moves ahead of the enemy.”
- Char Aznable

"Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat."
- Sun Tzu

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