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American Pere Housh
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Founded: Jan 12, 2019
Father Knows Best State

Postby American Pere Housh » Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:23 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote:Nationstates Name:American Pere Housh
Nation Name:Republic of Iran
Capital:Tehran
Territory:Modern day Iran
Population:85 million
Official Language:Persian
Recognized Languages:Persian 53%, Azerbaijani and other Turkic dialects 18% (e.g Khalaj, Qashqai, Turkmen), Kurdish 10%, Gilaki and Mazandarani 7%, Luri 6%, Arabic 2%, Balochi 2%, and other languages (Tati, Talysh, Armenian, Georgian, Neo-Aramaic, Circassian) 1%

Head of State:President Reza Pahlavi
HoS Picture:(Image)
Head of Government:Same as HoS
HoG Picture (If different from HoS):
Legislature Name:Iranian Parliament
Party in Power (If bicameral note who controls each):
Constitutionalist Party of Iran
GDP (nominal):900 billion USD
Major Trade Partners:China,India,South Korea,Turkey,United Arab Emirates and the United States
Major Exports:Oil, natural gas,chemicals,plastics,fruits,ceramic products and metals
Major Imports:non-electrical machinery (17 percent of total imports), iron and steel (14 percent), chemicals and related products (11 percent), transport vehicles (9 percent) and electrical machinery, tools and appliances (7 percent).
Oil Production:6,376,194.36 barrels per day
Oil Consumption:2,000,000 barrels per day
Proven Oil Reserves:157,530,000,000 barrels
Defense Budget (USD):30 billion USD
Alliances:China,India, Russia( Iran's Post coup government seeks closer ties with the West especially with the United States)

Military Branches (Just list names of official Armed Forces Branches):Iranian Army, Iranian Air Force, Iranian Navy, Iranian Marine Corp.

Active Duty:750,000
Reserve Duty:1,750,000
Total Manpower:48 million

Tanks:3800
AFVs:9000
SPA:900
Towed Artillery:2200
Rocket Projectors:2600

Fighters:250
Dedicated Attack:50
Transports:100
Trainers:200
Special Mission:25
Helicopters:350
Attack Helicopters:85

Aircraft Carriers:0
Destroyers:6
Frigates:15
Corvettes:10
Submarines:45
Patrol:30
Mine Warfare:5

Other Military Information:Iran provides military support to the Afghan government against Taliban and ISIS rebels. While the rivalry between Saudi Arabia and Iran is still intense, it has become more friendly in nature.

History Changes (Subject to review and approval by OP and Co-OP):Same as IRL up til November 2002 when riots broke out over the government's support of Islamic terrorist groups around the world and the collapse of the Iranian economy due to western sanctions. The riots started in Tehran but soon spread to every city in the country. While this was going on, Iranian military officers tired of what is happening to their country began gathering support. This continues into March of 2003 when their neighbor to the west Iraq is invaded by a coalition led by the United States leading to the overthrow of Suddam Hussein. This invasion distracted the Islamic regime in Tehran which was perfect for the coup leaders. In the wee hours of April 3rd, 2003, Iranian military officers launched a bloody military coup which quickly led to the capture or death of nearly every official loyal to the Supreme Leader and the President. This bloody predawn coup was considered the end of the Islamic Republic of Iran and the dawn of a new age in Iran. The new ruling military council closed Iran's borders and began purging anyone who was loyal to the previous regime. Each person was questioned to see how loyal they were to the old government and if they signed a document denouncing the old regime, they would be free to leave but if they refuse then they would be executed by firing squad. On April 3rd, 2004, the Iranian provisional government reopen its borders to world and reached out to the United States and its allies for the ending of the sanctions. That came 2 months later on June 10th which was a joyful day for the Iranian people. With that task accomplished, the provisional government turned to creating a new constitution for Iran. A constitutional convention was assembled in Tehran with representatives from all over Iran. Finally on January 18th, 2005, the new Constitution was released to people of Iran and the world. The new Iranian Constitution is based almost entirely on the United States Constitution with the differences being 2 6 year term limit for president and a complete and total assurance of the peoples right to bear arms with exceptions being explosive weapons and heavy weapons such as armored vehicles and military aircraft. In this world, Iran has good relations with Russia, India, China and the United States.


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This history doesn't really work. The Iranian Armed Forces are largely supportive of the current regime and the government's policies. The Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps is the organization that is largely responsible for equipping and training many terror groups supported by Iran.

Major protests in Iran didn't spring up until the General Elections of 2009, which were violently suppressed. The protests continued in 2011-2012 and 2017-2018, each time ending with no actual change in government. The early 2000s actually saw moderate electoral success for reformist parties, so protests were even more unlikely.

Well this is AH so lets say it did happen. I mean the USSR shouldn't exist either but it does.
Government Type: Militaristic Republic
Leader: President Alexander Jones
Prime Minister: Isabella Stuart-Jones
Secretary of Defense: Hitomi Izumi
Secretary of State: Eliza 'Vanny' Cortez
Time: 2023
Population: MT-450 million
Territory: All of North America, The Islands of the Caribbean and the Philippines

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Chewion
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Founded: May 21, 2015
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Chewion » Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:12 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:This history doesn't really work. The Iranian Armed Forces are largely supportive of the current regime and the government's policies. The Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps is the organization that is largely responsible for equipping and training many terror groups supported by Iran.

Major protests in Iran didn't spring up until the General Elections of 2009, which were violently suppressed. The protests continued in 2011-2012 and 2017-2018, each time ending with no actual change in government. The early 2000s actually saw moderate electoral success for reformist parties, so protests were even more unlikely.

Well this is AH so lets say it did happen. I mean the USSR shouldn't exist either but it does.

It’s AH within reason. The USSR exists because the Coup attempt was stopped before it happened and thus Gorbachev was able to get his plan through to create the Union of Soviet Sovereign Republics which was an irl concept with most Republics agreeing to until the coup attempt really destabilized everything.
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New Cobastheia
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Ex-Nation

Postby New Cobastheia » Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:25 pm

I haven't done a Nation RP in a hot minute, and I may have some interest in this, any interesting nations that haven't been claimed yet?

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American Pere Housh
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Founded: Jan 12, 2019
Father Knows Best State

Postby American Pere Housh » Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:53 pm

Chewion wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote:Well this is AH so lets say it did happen. I mean the USSR shouldn't exist either but it does.

It’s AH within reason. The USSR exists because the Coup attempt was stopped before it happened and thus Gorbachev was able to get his plan through to create the Union of Soviet Sovereign Republics which was an irl concept with most Republics agreeing to until the coup attempt really destabilized everything.

Alright then, I guess I can play as China.
Government Type: Militaristic Republic
Leader: President Alexander Jones
Prime Minister: Isabella Stuart-Jones
Secretary of Defense: Hitomi Izumi
Secretary of State: Eliza 'Vanny' Cortez
Time: 2023
Population: MT-450 million
Territory: All of North America, The Islands of the Caribbean and the Philippines

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Deblar
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Founded: Jan 28, 2021
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Deblar » Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:56 pm

New Cobastheia wrote:I haven't done a Nation RP in a hot minute, and I may have some interest in this, any interesting nations that haven't been claimed yet?

It’s a bit lonely in Latin America, could be Argentina or Brazil

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Chewion
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Founded: May 21, 2015
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Chewion » Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:33 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:
Chewion wrote:It’s AH within reason. The USSR exists because the Coup attempt was stopped before it happened and thus Gorbachev was able to get his plan through to create the Union of Soviet Sovereign Republics which was an irl concept with most Republics agreeing to until the coup attempt really destabilized everything.

Alright then, I guess I can play as China.

Rn someone is discussing an idea for China but maybe I can recommend to you Indonesia, Philippines, Vietnam, India, or anything in South America maybe?
(Realized we’re waiting for the Brazilian app but that reservation expires today)
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Chewion
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Chewion » Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:35 pm

New Cobastheia wrote:I haven't done a Nation RP in a hot minute, and I may have some interest in this, any interesting nations that haven't been claimed yet?

See the post above this for some. In addition all of Africa besides Eritrea is open so maybe Ethiopia or Egypt or South Africa? Mexico is also an interesting and open choice or Australia. Perhaps Italy in Europe? Or maybe Sweden or Norway? Or Romania or Hungary?
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Chewion
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Chewion » Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:38 pm

The reservation on Japan, Poland, and Brazil will expire by 11:59 PM Central in the US today. (Little bit less than 24 hrs from now.)
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American Pere Housh
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Founded: Jan 12, 2019
Father Knows Best State

Postby American Pere Housh » Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:40 pm

Nationstates Name:American Pere Housh
Nation Name:People's Republic of China
Capital:Beijing
Territory:IRL China, Hong Kong,Macau(Disputed islands in SCS)
Population:1.411 Billion
Official Language:Mandarin Chinese
Recognized Languages:Yue (Cantonese), Xiang (Hunanese), Min dialect, Gan dialect, Wu dialect, and Kejia or Hakka dialect.

Head of State:President Xi Jinping
HoS Picture:Image
Head of Government:Prime Minister Li Keqiang
HoG Picture (If different from HoS):Image
Legislature Name:
Party in Power (If bicameral note who controls each):

GDP (nominal):14.34 trillion USD
Major Trade Partners:United States, Hong Kong, China, Japan, Korea, Rep. and Vietnam
Major Exports:Broadcasting Equipment ($208B), Computers ($141B), Integrated Circuits ($108B), Office Machine Parts ($82.7B), and Telephones ($54.8B)
Major Imports:Crude Petroleum ($204B), Integrated Circuits ($123B), Iron Ore ($83.1B), Petroleum Gas ($47.8B), and Cars ($43.1B)
Oil Production:4,905,070.87 barrels per day
Oil Consumption:12,791,553 barrels per day
Proven Oil Reserves:25,132,122,000 barrels
Defense Budget (USD):US$209 billion
Alliances:North Korea,USSR

Military Branches (Just list names of official Armed Forces Branches):PLA Ground Force, PLA Navy, PLA Air Force, PLA Rocket Force, PLA Strategic Support Force

Active Duty:2.5 million
Reserve Duty:1.5 million
Total Manpower:754,000,000

Tanks:3800
AFVs:38000
SPA:2200
Towed Artillery:1600
Rocket Projectors:2600

Fighters:1450
Dedicated Attack:500
Transports:350
Trainers:550
Special Mission:175
Helicopters:1400
Attack Helicopters:550

Aircraft Carriers:2 (2 more under construction)
Destroyers:65
Frigates:55
Corvettes:90
Submarines:90
Patrol:165
Mine Warfare:60

Other Military Information:PLA is stronger due to the increasing threat from the United States

History Changes (Subject to review and approval by OP and Co-OP):Same as IRL except China in this timeline is more aggressive.


Do not remove - Alpha42

They didn't reserve China so I believe it is still up for grabs.
Government Type: Militaristic Republic
Leader: President Alexander Jones
Prime Minister: Isabella Stuart-Jones
Secretary of Defense: Hitomi Izumi
Secretary of State: Eliza 'Vanny' Cortez
Time: 2023
Population: MT-450 million
Territory: All of North America, The Islands of the Caribbean and the Philippines

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Kenobot
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Founded: Apr 09, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Kenobot » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:27 am

Right well if you really want China, you can have it I guess.
Would a democratic-leaning pro-European mini-Danubian Federation of Austria, Slovenia, Croatia and Hungary be possible? I feel like it could have happened with the leadership of Otto von Habsburg as he was a prominent figure in that period of 1989-91. Doubt there would a monarchist restoration, but close to it.
With that, I'll actually reserve that this time

Nationstates Name: Kenobot
Nation Name: The Danubian Federation (Austria, Slovenia, Hungary, Croatia)
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The Democratic Republic of Nytoa
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Founded: Jan 11, 2021
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby The Democratic Republic of Nytoa » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:50 am

The Democratic Republic of Nytoa wrote:Nationstates Name: The Democratic Republic of Nytoa
Nation Name: The Iberian union

/bump
Does NOT fully represent my views

Member of ICDN, Nato and UCA (and all of its predecessors)
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New account: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=nyetoa

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Kenobot
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Ex-Nation

Postby Kenobot » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:54 am

The Democratic Republic of Nytoa wrote:
The Democratic Republic of Nytoa wrote:Nationstates Name: The Democratic Republic of Nytoa
Nation Name: The Iberian union

/bump

You realise you actually have to fill out the application, right?
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The Democratic Republic of Nytoa
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby The Democratic Republic of Nytoa » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:27 am

Kenobot wrote:
The Democratic Republic of Nytoa wrote:/bump

You realise you actually have to fill out the application, right?

It’s a reservation
Does NOT fully represent my views

Member of ICDN, Nato and UCA (and all of its predecessors)
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(")_(") This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your signature to help him gain world domination.

New account: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=nyetoa

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The Manticoran Empire
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Founded: Aug 21, 2015
Anarchy

Postby The Manticoran Empire » Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:18 am

The Democratic Republic of Nytoa wrote:
The Democratic Republic of Nytoa wrote:Nationstates Name: The Democratic Republic of Nytoa
Nation Name: The Iberian union

/bump

How is Iberia unifying?
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby New Eestiball » Sun Aug 08, 2021 11:21 am

I will be able to apply tomorrow, but I’m short on time today.
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Anarchy

Postby The Manticoran Empire » Sun Aug 08, 2021 11:32 am

Kenobot wrote:Right well if you really want China, you can have it I guess.
Would a democratic-leaning pro-European mini-Danubian Federation of Austria, Slovenia, Croatia and Hungary be possible? I feel like it could have happened with the leadership of Otto von Habsburg as he was a prominent figure in that period of 1989-91. Doubt there would a monarchist restoration, but close to it.
With that, I'll actually reserve that this time

Nationstates Name: Kenobot
Nation Name: The Danubian Federation (Austria, Slovenia, Hungary, Croatia)

I haven't really found anything that would indicate any serious attempts at a Danube Federation since the 1940s.
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Against: Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Liberalism, Theocracy, Corporatocracy.


By the Blood of our Fathers, By the Blood of our Sons, we fight, we die, we sacrifice for the Good of the Empire.

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Chewion
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Chewion » Sun Aug 08, 2021 11:53 am

American Pere Housh wrote:Nationstates Name:American Pere Housh
Nation Name:People's Republic of China
Capital:Beijing
Territory:IRL China, Hong Kong,Macau(Disputed islands in SCS)
Population:1.411 Billion
Official Language:Mandarin Chinese
Recognized Languages:Yue (Cantonese), Xiang (Hunanese), Min dialect, Gan dialect, Wu dialect, and Kejia or Hakka dialect.

Head of State:President Xi Jinping
HoS Picture:(Image)
Head of Government:Prime Minister Li Keqiang
HoG Picture (If different from HoS):(Image)
Legislature Name:
Party in Power (If bicameral note who controls each):

GDP (nominal):14.34 trillion USD
Major Trade Partners:United States, Hong Kong, China, Japan, Korea, Rep. and Vietnam
Major Exports:Broadcasting Equipment ($208B), Computers ($141B), Integrated Circuits ($108B), Office Machine Parts ($82.7B), and Telephones ($54.8B)
Major Imports:Crude Petroleum ($204B), Integrated Circuits ($123B), Iron Ore ($83.1B), Petroleum Gas ($47.8B), and Cars ($43.1B)
Oil Production:4,905,070.87 barrels per day
Oil Consumption:12,791,553 barrels per day
Proven Oil Reserves:25,132,122,000 barrels
Defense Budget (USD):US$209 billion
Alliances:North Korea,USSR

Military Branches (Just list names of official Armed Forces Branches):PLA Ground Force, PLA Navy, PLA Air Force, PLA Rocket Force, PLA Strategic Support Force

Active Duty:2.5 million
Reserve Duty:1.5 million
Total Manpower:754,000,000

Tanks:3800
AFVs:38000
SPA:2200
Towed Artillery:1600
Rocket Projectors:2600

Fighters:1450
Dedicated Attack:500
Transports:350
Trainers:550
Special Mission:175
Helicopters:1400
Attack Helicopters:550

Aircraft Carriers:2 (2 more under construction)
Destroyers:65
Frigates:55
Corvettes:90
Submarines:90
Patrol:165
Mine Warfare:60

Other Military Information:PLA is stronger due to the increasing threat from the United States

History Changes (Subject to review and approval by OP and Co-OP):Same as IRL except China in this timeline is more aggressive.


Do not remove - Alpha42

They didn't reserve China so I believe it is still up for grabs.

Accepted. But I do need to warn you that the USSR has moved away from being so close to China starting in the early 2000’s and doesn’t sell the PRC high end military equipment anymore.
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Arvenia
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Arvenia » Sun Aug 08, 2021 11:54 am

Chewion wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote:Nationstates Name:American Pere Housh
Nation Name:People's Republic of China
Capital:Beijing
Territory:IRL China, Hong Kong,Macau(Disputed islands in SCS)
Population:1.411 Billion
Official Language:Mandarin Chinese
Recognized Languages:Yue (Cantonese), Xiang (Hunanese), Min dialect, Gan dialect, Wu dialect, and Kejia or Hakka dialect.

Head of State:President Xi Jinping
HoS Picture:(Image)
Head of Government:Prime Minister Li Keqiang
HoG Picture (If different from HoS):(Image)
Legislature Name:
Party in Power (If bicameral note who controls each):

GDP (nominal):14.34 trillion USD
Major Trade Partners:United States, Hong Kong, China, Japan, Korea, Rep. and Vietnam
Major Exports:Broadcasting Equipment ($208B), Computers ($141B), Integrated Circuits ($108B), Office Machine Parts ($82.7B), and Telephones ($54.8B)
Major Imports:Crude Petroleum ($204B), Integrated Circuits ($123B), Iron Ore ($83.1B), Petroleum Gas ($47.8B), and Cars ($43.1B)
Oil Production:4,905,070.87 barrels per day
Oil Consumption:12,791,553 barrels per day
Proven Oil Reserves:25,132,122,000 barrels
Defense Budget (USD):US$209 billion
Alliances:North Korea,USSR

Military Branches (Just list names of official Armed Forces Branches):PLA Ground Force, PLA Navy, PLA Air Force, PLA Rocket Force, PLA Strategic Support Force

Active Duty:2.5 million
Reserve Duty:1.5 million
Total Manpower:754,000,000

Tanks:3800
AFVs:38000
SPA:2200
Towed Artillery:1600
Rocket Projectors:2600

Fighters:1450
Dedicated Attack:500
Transports:350
Trainers:550
Special Mission:175
Helicopters:1400
Attack Helicopters:550

Aircraft Carriers:2 (2 more under construction)
Destroyers:65
Frigates:55
Corvettes:90
Submarines:90
Patrol:165
Mine Warfare:60

Other Military Information:PLA is stronger due to the increasing threat from the United States

History Changes (Subject to review and approval by OP and Co-OP):Same as IRL except China in this timeline is more aggressive.


Do not remove - Alpha42

They didn't reserve China so I believe it is still up for grabs.

Accepted. But I do need to warn you that the USSR has moved away from being so close to China starting in the early 2000’s and doesn’t sell the PRC high end military equipment anymore.

Oh snap.
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Ex-Nation

Postby Kenobot » Sun Aug 08, 2021 3:51 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Kenobot wrote:Right well if you really want China, you can have it I guess.
Would a democratic-leaning pro-European mini-Danubian Federation of Austria, Slovenia, Croatia and Hungary be possible? I feel like it could have happened with the leadership of Otto von Habsburg as he was a prominent figure in that period of 1989-91. Doubt there would a monarchist restoration, but close to it.
With that, I'll actually reserve that this time

Nationstates Name: Kenobot
Nation Name: The Danubian Federation (Austria, Slovenia, Hungary, Croatia)

I haven't really found anything that would indicate any serious attempts at a Danube Federation since the 1940s.

It'd be less a Danubian Federation and more an extension of Otto's PanEuropean Union in these specifics areas in which he had much sway (particularly hungary) thanks to his role in events like the Pan-European Picnic of 1989.
That being said, if you'd rather I did something else that's fine.
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New Cobastheia
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Ex-Nation

Postby New Cobastheia » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:00 pm

If the reservation for Brazil runs out before an app is posted by the person who reserved it, I think I'll make a reservation for it

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American Pere Housh
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Founded: Jan 12, 2019
Father Knows Best State

Postby American Pere Housh » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:02 pm

Chewion wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote:Nationstates Name:American Pere Housh
Nation Name:People's Republic of China
Capital:Beijing
Territory:IRL China, Hong Kong,Macau(Disputed islands in SCS)
Population:1.411 Billion
Official Language:Mandarin Chinese
Recognized Languages:Yue (Cantonese), Xiang (Hunanese), Min dialect, Gan dialect, Wu dialect, and Kejia or Hakka dialect.

Head of State:President Xi Jinping
HoS Picture:(Image)
Head of Government:Prime Minister Li Keqiang
HoG Picture (If different from HoS):(Image)
Legislature Name:
Party in Power (If bicameral note who controls each):

GDP (nominal):14.34 trillion USD
Major Trade Partners:United States, Hong Kong, China, Japan, Korea, Rep. and Vietnam
Major Exports:Broadcasting Equipment ($208B), Computers ($141B), Integrated Circuits ($108B), Office Machine Parts ($82.7B), and Telephones ($54.8B)
Major Imports:Crude Petroleum ($204B), Integrated Circuits ($123B), Iron Ore ($83.1B), Petroleum Gas ($47.8B), and Cars ($43.1B)
Oil Production:4,905,070.87 barrels per day
Oil Consumption:12,791,553 barrels per day
Proven Oil Reserves:25,132,122,000 barrels
Defense Budget (USD):US$209 billion
Alliances:North Korea,USSR

Military Branches (Just list names of official Armed Forces Branches):PLA Ground Force, PLA Navy, PLA Air Force, PLA Rocket Force, PLA Strategic Support Force

Active Duty:2.5 million
Reserve Duty:1.5 million
Total Manpower:754,000,000

Tanks:3800
AFVs:38000
SPA:2200
Towed Artillery:1600
Rocket Projectors:2600

Fighters:1450
Dedicated Attack:500
Transports:350
Trainers:550
Special Mission:175
Helicopters:1400
Attack Helicopters:550

Aircraft Carriers:2 (2 more under construction)
Destroyers:65
Frigates:55
Corvettes:90
Submarines:90
Patrol:165
Mine Warfare:60

Other Military Information:PLA is stronger due to the increasing threat from the United States

History Changes (Subject to review and approval by OP and Co-OP):Same as IRL except China in this timeline is more aggressive.


Do not remove - Alpha42

They didn't reserve China so I believe it is still up for grabs.

Accepted. But I do need to warn you that the USSR has moved away from being so close to China starting in the early 2000’s and doesn’t sell the PRC high end military equipment anymore.

Sounds like a Second Sino-Soviet Split though what caused their relationship to fall apart?
I guess I will be working mending that relationship we once had.
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:29 pm

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Chewion wrote:Accepted. But I do need to warn you that the USSR has moved away from being so close to China starting in the early 2000’s and doesn’t sell the PRC high end military equipment anymore.

Sounds like a Second Sino-Soviet Split though what caused their relationship to fall apart?
I guess I will be working mending that relationship we once had.

Probably the fact that the Soviets are growing closer to the West in the post-Gorbachev era while the Chinese are more antagonistic to the West.
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Postby American Pere Housh » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:38 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Sao Nova Europa wrote:
Can I be China then but have different policies on Xinjiang and Hong Kong, adopting a more conciliatory approach?

It is a possibility but one that I have trouble believing, given the nature of the CCP. The Chinese Communist Party is perhaps the most repressive regime in human history, seeking to retain as much control as they possibly can over the flow of information, to the point that they have made it illegal for FOREIGNERs to speak out against the regime.

While the CCP is powerful, they wouldn't be able do anything without the backing of the PLA.
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The Manticoran Empire wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote:Sounds like a Second Sino-Soviet Split though what caused their relationship to fall apart?
I guess I will be working mending that relationship we once had.

Probably the fact that the Soviets are growing closer to the West in the post-Gorbachev era while the Chinese are more antagonistic to the West.

This plus the more overt aggression from China, especially since 1990’s, has caused some worry in Moscow over Chinese plans.
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Postby Kenobot » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:55 pm

At face value seems like a longshot, but after reading what happened in 1990s Italy certainly possible.

Nationstates Name: Kenobot
Nation Name: Roman Republic (Rēs pūblica Rōmāna)
Capital: Rome
Territory: Italy
Population: 60 Million
Official Language: Italian, but phasing in Latin
Recognized Languages: Latin

Head of State: Consul Gianfranco Fini and Consul Luca Romagnoli
HoS Picture: Fini Romagnoli
Head of Government: Merged Roles
HoG Picture (If different from HoS):
Legislature Name: The Roman Senate
Party in Power (If bicameral note who controls each): Roman Movement

GDP (nominal): 2 Trillion USD
Major Trade Partners: France, Germany, USA, USSR, China, Spain
Major Exports: Engineering products, textiles and clothing, production machinery, motor vehicles, transport equipment, chemicals; foodstuffs, beverages, and tobacco; minerals, nonferrous metals
Major Imports: Engineering products, chemicals, transport equipment, energy products, minerals and nonferrous metals, textiles and clothing; food, beverages, tobacco
Oil Production: 150,146.86 barrels per day
Oil Consumption: Italy consumes 1,236,628 barrels per day
Proven Oil Reserves: 579,232,000 Barrels
Defense Budget (USD): $39 Billion USD
Alliances: NATO

Military Branches:
Exercitus Romanus (Roman Army)
Classe Romanus (Roman Navy)
Vim aeris Romanus (Roman Air Force)

Active Duty: 97,755 (Army), 30,923 (Navy), 43,000 (Air Force)
Reserve Duty: 110,000 (Army), 10,000 (Navy), 15,000 (Air Force)
Total Manpower: 305,000

Tanks: 200 C1 Ariete, 300 Centauro Tank Destroyers
AFVs: 200 Dardo IFVs, 630 Freccia IFVs, 650 M113/M113A1 APCs, 300 Bandvagn 206s, 250 Puma 6x6
SPA: Panzerhaubitze 2000 54
Towed Artillery: FH70 90, OTO Melara Mod 56 18
Rocket Projectors: M270 MLRS 21

Fighters: 92 Eurofighter Typhoons, 14 F-35 Lightning 2, 51 Panavia Tornados, 14 AV-8B Harrier II
Dedicated Attack: 32 AMX Internationals
Transports: 39
Trainers: 40
Special Mission: 2 AWACS, 2 Recon, 16 Electronic Warfare, 3 Maritime Patrol, 10 Tankers
Helicopters: Agusta Bell 206 31, Agusta Bell 205 57,
Attack Helicopters: Agusta A129 59

Aircraft Carriers: 2 RN Augustus(Former Giuseppe Garibaldi) and RN Roma (IRL Cavour)
3 LHDs
Destroyers: 4
Frigates: 14
Corvettes: 8
Submarines: 8
Patrol: 16
Mine Warfare: 10

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Mani pulite investigation of corruption occurs as IRL, with the added revelation of Silvio Berlusconi’s corruption and attempts to intimidate investigators. This leads to the complete collapse of the established political system even further than IRL and the fall of the first Italian Republic. In the chaos, the former neo-fascists Gianfranco Fini and Luca Romagnoli form a new movement rebuking the Italian identity and nation as a failure and promoting a return to the Roman identity. With no parties big enough to fill the void of the former major parties, a series of chaotic coalitions rule Italy until 1999, when Fini and Romagnoli’s Roman Movement almost win an outright majority. Forming a coalition with a minor conservative party, the new government uses its mandate to propose a new constitution; dissolving the Second Italian Republic and forming the Second Roman Republic, which narrowly passes in a referendum. The new state is modelled after the ancient republic but adapted to the modern democratic times. Ever since the foundation of the new republic in 2000, the Roman Movement has continued to dominate the senatorial elections; riding the Eurosceptic tide of the last 10 years into supermajorities. Now as Fini and Romagnoli look to step down and the search begins for their successors as consuls, Rome stands strong for the first time in over 1500 years.

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