New Civilizations [OOC | Always Open]

[Saxony-Brandenburg]

You better not make me post a third time in a row!

[Endem]

You better not make me post a third time in a row!

I'll see what I can scrounge up, but you better reply to the messengers heading your way.

[Saxony-Brandenburg]

You better not make me post a third time in a row!

I'll see what I can scrounge up, but you better reply to the messengers heading your way.

Discord me baby!

[Endem]

I'll see what I can scrounge up, but you better reply to the messengers heading your way.

Discord me baby!

Was thinking of doijg that when our authors actually meet. Since currently the messengers have a pretty standard job of telling Olivia what conditions Alexander gave and going back with your response.

[Endem]

Three questions: 1. Is it possible to make irrigation in desert oasis viable? 2. Could an Indian house crow fly to Arabia or be transported on a ship from Harappa? 3. Can I give my author a pet?

[Saxony-Brandenburg]

Three questions: 1. Is it possible to make irrigation in desert oasis viable? 2. Could an Indian house crow fly to Arabia or be transported on a ship from Harappa? 3. Can I give my author a pet?

I think all those answers is reasonably yes given the right circumstances

[Nea Videssos]

Three questions: 1. Is it possible to make irrigation in desert oasis viable? 2. Could an Indian house crow fly to Arabia or be transported on a ship from Harappa? 3. Can I give my author a pet?

For the first one, this might help. See also the foggara irrigation system the Garamantes used in the Sahara. Of course, in the case of the Garamantes making use of fossil water, the issue was that they eventually ran out after so many centuries of using a finite supply of underground water. For the second, looking at a map of the house crow's distribution, there are areas in the Middle East that they reside, mainly along the coast of the Persian Gulf and the Red Sea. From what I saw, they were probably introduced by ship to East Africa. As for the Persian Gulf, it wouldn't be too far for them to simply fly across the water from their native range that stretches from southern Iran all the way to southwest Thailand. As for the pet thing, I guess that's up to the OP but I don't see any reason why not. From what I recall from skimming some of the previous OOCs a while ago, I think someone once had a pet dog they made immortal.

[Endem]

Three questions: 1. Is it possible to make irrigation in desert oasis viable? 2. Could an Indian house crow fly to Arabia or be transported on a ship from Harappa? 3. Can I give my author a pet?

For the first one, this might help. See also the foggara irrigation system the Garamantes used in the Sahara. Of course, in the case of the Garamantes making use of fossil water, the issue was that they eventually ran out after so many centuries of using a finite supply of underground water. For the second, looking at a map of the house crow's distribution, there are areas in the Middle East that they reside, mainly along the coast of the Persian Gulf and the Red Sea. From what I saw, they were probably introduced by ship to East Africa. As for the Persian Gulf, it wouldn't be too far for them to simply fly across the water from their native range that stretches from southern Iran all the way to southwest Thailand. As for the pet thing, I guess that's up to the OP but I don't see any reason why not. From what I recall from skimming some of the previous OOCs a while ago, I think someone once had a pet dog they made immortal.

Interesting reads, coincidentally, one of them mentioned exactly the system I wanted to make. A small grid of ditches through which water would flow to plots of land for farmers!

Also, yeah, that's why I was asking for that info about crows, also thanks to this, Aleksander is also getting a pet crow now!

[G-Tech Corporation]

Ehhh I didn't love that. But sadly my inspiration was stillborn. At least now Saxony isn't triple-posting

[Saxony-Brandenburg]

Christ, thank you g... this one is gonna be a biiig one too.

[Saxony-Brandenburg]

Feel free to look over that if you’re bored and don’t mind reading 8,000 words of sleepy written fight scenes

[Endem]

Posted. Unfortunately it's not very good, it would have been bigger, but I needed to cut out a scene with Aleksander protecting a lesbian couple from a stoning, as it turns out, Arabs in early Islamic world and how I can only assume pre-islamic, were more tolerant of homosexuality than I had imagined based on my mired view. A shame for my post, but enlightening.

[Orostan]

G-Tech, do you want to work out our problem with China? I want to start posting again but I can't do that if you continue to basically tell me not to post. I thought we agreed that the active civil war in China could be finished with that big battle via telegram - I don't see how one big battle is even unrealistic when the alternative for the rebels would have been to be defeated in detail.

[G-Tech Corporation]

G-Tech, do you want to work out our problem with China? I want to start posting again but I can't do that if you continue to basically tell me not to post. I thought we agreed that the active civil war in China could be finished with that big battle via telegram - I don't see how one big battle is even unrealistic when the alternative for the rebels would have been to be defeated in detail.

Hm. I guess waiting for Joohan to return doesn't look like a viable option atm. I'll sleep on it and read up on your post, and I'll let you know my thoughts in the morning.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Upon review Orostan, we’ll let you kill off half of the external tribe armies at that climactic battle - but the rest remain within Chinese lands and actively opposed to the Chinese state. They aren’t concerned about defeat in detail, because tactically China lacks the means to pin down their armies, and in the rare cases where her central armies have triumphed strategically other tribes have found opportunity to advance their agendas. So China retains a strong internal security problem, but some regions have been pacified.

[Orostan]

Upon review Orostan, we’ll let you kill off half of the external tribe armies at that climactic battle - but the rest remain within Chinese lands and actively opposed to the Chinese state. They aren’t concerned about defeat in detail, because tactically China lacks the means to pin down their armies, and in the rare cases where her central armies have triumphed strategically other tribes have found opportunity to advance their agendas. So China retains a strong internal security problem, but some regions have been pacified.

This is acceptable, I'll make some posts based on it.

[Suriyanakhon]

Hey G, can I switch my character back to Grace and scrap Holly? I have more character arc ideas for her than the latter, and I don't think that my writer block will clear up for Holly.

[Saxony-Brandenburg]

Hey G, can I switch my character back to Grace and scrap Holly? I have more character arc ideas for her than the latter, and I don't think that my writer block will clear up for Holly.

I, Olifia, wise Sheikha of the Yanba'awi and speaker for the gods; approve this message.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Hey G, can I switch my character back to Grace and scrap Holly? I have more character arc ideas for her than the latter, and I don't think that my writer block will clear up for Holly.

Sure, that’s chill. I’m intrigued to see what you do with Grace, and Red China’s influence.

[Orostan]

Hey G, can I switch my character back to Grace and scrap Holly? I have more character arc ideas for her than the latter, and I don't think that my writer block will clear up for Holly.

I look forwards to seeing you in the RP again! Maybe some bandits can run off to Japan, and the Chinese can follow?

[Suriyanakhon]

Hey G, can I switch my character back to Grace and scrap Holly? I have more character arc ideas for her than the latter, and I don't think that my writer block will clear up for Holly.

Sure, that’s chill. I’m intrigued to see what you do with Grace, and Red China’s influence.

Gonna be fun exploring how Hana has evolved during Grace's absence.

Hey G, can I switch my character back to Grace and scrap Holly? I have more character arc ideas for her than the latter, and I don't think that my writer block will clear up for Holly.

I look forwards to seeing you in the RP again! Maybe some bandits can run off to Japan, and the Chinese can follow?

I think that would be a bit far for bandits to travel.

[Orostan]

Sure, that’s chill. I’m intrigued to see what you do with Grace, and Red China’s influence.

Gonna be fun exploring how Hana has evolved during Grace's absence.

I look forwards to seeing you in the RP again! Maybe some bandits can run off to Japan, and the Chinese can follow?

I think that would be a bit far for bandits to travel.

By bandits I mean a somewhat organized rebel group that just lost an incredibly violent civil war in China.

With the end of that civil war China has its own problems, but a group of bandit rebels fleeing for the edge of China's known world would have to be followed - especially considering that Aaron would see allowing rebels to flee to the one place he knows for a fact another time traveler could be as a risk that couldn't be taken.

[Suriyanakhon]

Gonna be fun exploring how Hana has evolved during Grace's absence.

I think that would be a bit far for bandits to travel.

By bandits I mean a somewhat organized rebel group that just lost an incredibly violent civil war in China.

With the end of that civil war China has its own problems, but a group of bandit rebels fleeing for the edge of China's known world would have to be followed - especially considering that Aaron would see allowing rebels to flee to the one place he knows for a fact another time traveler could be as a risk that couldn't be taken.

Actually, I think that could be an interesting idea. I planned on the current head of the throne being a weakling and courtiers being terrified of the idea of Hana being swallowed by foreign powers if it doesn't have a competent leader, leading to Grace working to return to power. Maybe these rebels could side with Grace against the current Tennō because they believe she's their best bet against Aaron's wrath? If you could write up a post about them fleeing to Honshu, I could work on a post about them having an audience in the imperial court and the different nobles discussing & arguing the issue.

[Orostan]

By bandits I mean a somewhat organized rebel group that just lost an incredibly violent civil war in China.

With the end of that civil war China has its own problems, but a group of bandit rebels fleeing for the edge of China's known world would have to be followed - especially considering that Aaron would see allowing rebels to flee to the one place he knows for a fact another time traveler could be as a risk that couldn't be taken.

Actually, I think that could be an interesting idea. I planned on the current head of the throne being a weakling and courtiers being terrified of the idea of Hana being swallowed by foreign powers if it doesn't have a competent leader, leading to Grace working to return to power. Maybe these rebels could side with Grace against the current Tennō because they believe she's their best bet against Aaron's wrath? If you could write up a post about them fleeing to Honshu, I could work on a post about them having an audience in the imperial court and the different nobles discussing & arguing the issue.

Sure, I'll get right on it.

[Orostan]

Alright, I posted. Tell me if I made any typos because this post went through a bunch of versions.

I included the landing of the rebels in Japan at the end of the post. Next post will involve the Chinese figuring out where they went from a Chinese trader that saw them in Japan and equipping their own force to follow. That will take time which the rebels can spend making friends though.