Divinity/Humanity OOC

[Kaledoria]

The first page roster has been updated with some city information and the maps.

Canis named the capital Tyranach in the IC, so that is O now.

I mentioned Reimchester, so that's what I called the NE city now ICly, it's only implied but Cear Gwain would be like a 6-10 walking hours north of it. Distant enough, so that you can't travel back and forth every morning and evening but if the watchtowers see something stronger then the Order can handle themselves (and smart enough that they do not want to hide from it in the cellars/bunkers under the buildings), close enough to temporary shelter there.

[Barapam]

Kaledoria, I wasn't sure what else to do so I had Julia meet up with Saoirse right away. Or did you mean that she is still in Reimchester in your post?

[Ceystile]

Working on an opening post now but I got 3 people to write for so I’m still trying to figure everything out.

[Flohaland]

Azron is still on the road. I am working on a post where he gets into a fight. That should set up a possibility for Nephele to heal someone.

[The H Corporation]

Azron is still on the road. I am working on a post where he gets into a fight. That should set up a possibility for Nephele to heal someone.

Okay okay. I will make sure she is close, and the post might come tomorrow

[Nations United for Conquest]

I don't remember who is in the North, but Eavan will be arriving from the Northwest, whilst Tilian is coming up from the far East as a heads up. Hopefully I'll have a post out either late today or tomorrow

[Cainesland]

I wonder what the oxygen content of the air might be. If it’s at 30%, instead of the more modern 21%, we could have giant insects like in the Carboniferous. It may also show why the planet is cooler. 30% Oxygen, 69% Nitrogen, 1% other.

[Canis Rex]

I wonder what the oxygen content of the air might be. If it’s at 30%, instead of the more modern 21%, we could have giant insects like in the Carboniferous. It may also show why the planet is cooler. 30% Oxygen, 69% Nitrogen, 1% other.

Hmm, hadn't considered it. Would that have any effect on humans?

[Cainesland]

I wonder what the oxygen content of the air might be. If it’s at 30%, instead of the more modern 21%, we could have giant insects like in the Carboniferous. It may also show why the planet is cooler. 30% Oxygen, 69% Nitrogen, 1% other.

Hmm, hadn't considered it. Would that have any effect on humans?

I am not entirely sure.

However, according to this article abstract which focused on short term impacts:
- verbal-behaviour accuracy was enhanced,
- There was a significant increase in the blood oxygen saturation level
- there was no significant impacts on the heart rate

The article abstract concluded by saying “ Significant positive correlations were found between changes in oxygen saturation and cognitive performance. This result supports the hypothesis that 30% oxygen administration would lead to increases in verbal cognitive performance.”

Other people online that may be less reliable have speculated about
- oxygen toxicity impacting lifespan and increasing aging
- increased rates of forest fires
- faster food rotting
- increased oxidizing of metal.

Most of this coming from a worldbuilding forum. I say less reliable mainly because I’m not as familiar with the material, as well as not being sure about their sources or background.

I might speculate as well that it may also be that some biological impacts could be smoothed over because this worlds humans have evolved or been created to fit the world. So they may have adaptions to fit in it better, whether that be smaller bronchioles in the lungs to regulate the absorption of oxygen to levels more normal for us or other features so that we aren’t too different from earth humans.


Edit: In case it helps, here is Homosphere information from a textbook on modern geosystem composition.

Nitrogen-780,840
Oxygen-209,460
Argon-9,340
Neon-18
Helium-5.2
Krypton-1.0
Xenon- ~0.1

Variable gases (change over time and space)
Water vapour-0-4% (max at tropics, min at poles)
Carbon dioxide-410 (as measured May 2017 in Mauna Loa, Hawai’i)
Methane-1.8
Hydrogen- ~0.6
Nitrous Oxide- ~0.3
Ozone- variable

[Cainesland]

I think my next post may involve street gangs, referencing Milo and Clodius, and leaving in a caravan.

Did you want our characters to meet once Merlin is on the road, Canis Rex?

[Canis Rex]

I think my next post may involve street gangs, referencing Milo and Clodius, and leaving in a caravan.

Did you want our characters to meet once Merlin is on the road, Canis Rex?

Sure. I'll try to get something else up for Armir as well.

[Cainesland]

Cool. Thank you.

[Barapam]

Ended up a little bit busy these past days, but a post is incoming.

[Nations United for Conquest]

So, I'm aware the environment here is generally colder, but what season are we currently in?

[Cainesland]

So, I'm aware the environment here is generally colder, but what season are we currently in?

I saw fall in the Ic

[Flohaland]

Another suggestion for background lore:

There should be a King, not only because feudal societies usually have kings, but I think it opens up more possibilities for drama. My suggestion is that the King is actually married to his second wife. His first wife died during the crisis as well as all of his legitimate sons. The constitution us not clear on female succession. The nearest adult male relative of the King is the grandson of his father's sister. The King could have married his daughter of to his cousin for stability, but he didn't want that. Instead he has married his second wife, not only to produce a male heir, but because she is capable of being a good regent. She has not only the political connections, but the political acumen to use it. Perhaps she knows some magic too. The King has a daughter from his first marriage that he dotes upon.

This makes a lot of possibilities for intrigue. As each member of the court has their own supporters and at the same time wants to work together, but also in competition. With the King alive it is a team of rivals, but if he died there could be open conflict.

[Cainesland]

In this scenario it sounds as though there would be three potential heirs:
- Kings daughter, the last legitimate child of the king
- Kings wife as regent until kings daughter comes of age.
- Kings aunts grandson.

Does that sound correct?

[Flohaland]

Yes, although there could also be a baby son to the second queen. Because the infant mortality is high the courtiers would have to balance the favor between the three possible "heirs" and the King or risk going all in on one.

[Cainesland]

With the approval of Canis Rex, Ceystile, and Nations United for conquest, here is a new update.

Vashti created sheep, goats, cows, pigs, chickens, olive trees, and grape vines. Fás was responsible for teaching “Man how to farm and domesticate animals before she ascended”, and thus had a role in domesticating and “making them into something more manageable for humans”.

With Cygic being responsible for honey, and thus associated with sugar and mead, Vashti is associated with grapes and olives, and thus wine and olive oil, and Fás and/or Grásta is associated with barley, and thus beer and ale.

Edit: Sorry, I just realized wine was listed under the associations of the deity of chaos.

Edit2: With a new round of approvals here is the update.
Vashti created sheep, goats, cows, pigs, chickens, olive trees, and Apple trees. Fás was responsible for teaching “Man how to farm and domesticate animals before she ascended”, and thus had a role in domesticating and “making them into something more manageable for humans”.

With Cygic being responsible for honey, and thus associated with sugar and mead, Liara is associated with grapes and wine, Vashti is associated with apples and olives, and thus Cider and olive oil, and Fás and/or Grásta is associated with barley, and thus beer and ale.[/spoiler]

[Cainesland]

For the Milo vs. Clodius event do you think it should take place inside the city or outside the city? If inside I was thinking of some kind of street gang vs street gang action, if outside it might be the gang leader vs gang leader. In real life I think Clodius died.

Edit:
I was thinking of pulling a bunch from the actual story as inspiration for the background of the event.
The representative of the middle class, Milo, and the representative of the poor, Clodius, are at odds. Clodius, not a member of the poor himself had pulled a fast one by getting a farse adoption into a poor family. Clodius wanted to ally himself with the growing populist faction in the city, led by Caesar who was captain of the cities mercenary army, and got the council to pass a few acts including a retroactive criminal bill. This speculated to be revenge against the representative for the rich, Cicero, himself from a rural family and not from the urban elite, who refused to help Clodius when Clodius was caught dressing up as a woman and trying to seduce a priestess during a religious festival. The retroactive criminal bill would punish the representative for the rich for executing a previous group of rebel leaders without trial but with the consent of the council. Cicero fled after one threat to many, and Clodius got a bill passed exiling Cicero. Clodius built up a following and his own gang. When the bill was brought forward to the public for their views, Clodius gang of supporters and gladiators went on a killing spree. Milo built up his own gang of supporters and gladiators to counter Clodius. Cicero’s ally Pompey who serves as head of the city guard tried to gather support to clear Ciceros exile.

[Flohaland]

If you want to look to history for inspiration about factions, the best example is the Cod and Hook wars in Holland. Italy is famous for its factions: the Guelphs and Ghibellines, and the Roman families Orsini and Colonna. Sometimes there was class element and sometimes not. A faction always had members across the classes. Cities were often the site of conflict, because the craftsmen and merchants there were better organized, concentrated and had economic resources. They often were able to increase their privileges through conflict with the monarch or nobles.

[Cainesland]

If you want to look to history for inspiration about factions, the best example is the Cod and Hook wars in Holland. Italy is famous for its factions: the Guelphs and Ghibellines, and the Roman families Orsini and Colonna. Sometimes there was class element and sometimes not. A faction always had members across the classes. Cities were often the site of conflict, because the craftsmen and merchants there were better organized, concentrated and had economic resources. They often were able to increase their privileges through conflict with the monarch or nobles.

Thank you. The lord of Reme is based a bit on the Montefeltro family. Since Urbino was known for its scholarly court and mercenary forces.

Using the Roman patronage option seemed interesting as well. I may look at those suggestions you gave. The gang violence wasn’t meant to be a family vs family feud, or a feud to take over the role of lord of Reme, or a merchant vs aristocratic feud. But maybe some ideas or inspiration can be taken from them those conflicts you mentioned.

I am curious about the relationship between the cities and the crown as well. That was a good idea. I wonder if this is more like the Holy Roman Empire with a weaker crown and imperial free cities that have more autonomy, or France with a stronger crown and less autonomous regions and cities. Given Reme contributes a mercenary army to the kingdom rather than a feudal levy or knights I am guessing more towards the HRE style but it would be interesting to learn about.

[Flohaland]

Well, the HRE was in some ways not that much different than other feudal monarchies. Sure, the monarch was weaker in the HRE, and the vassals stronger, but the basic structure was similar. London, for example did not have its own foreign policy, but it could elect its own mayor and was directly under the rule of the King.

If Reme had autonomy, that probably is a result of privileges of the Lord of Reme and not the city.

[Canis Rex]

I'd say cities would be have a fair degree of autonomy simply because of how difficult coordinating is. The monarchy does still have control but a city can't stop functioning just because they don't hear from a monarch for a while. So they would be expected to abide by any decrees but until then I would guess they do what they see fit to get by

[Nations United for Conquest]

So post is gonna be delayed. Motivation to write randomly died, so a bit of a delay. Probably'll be up sometime early this week, hopefully. Still not exactly sure how I want to start it off anyways.