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Strala
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Postby Strala » Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:13 pm

Made a short post, because I'm not getting involved in the war and I really don't have much to write about.

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Union Princes
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Postby Union Princes » Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:30 pm

Imperialisium wrote:I’m like 103% sure I’ve stated Russia didn’t support Japan. Idk why you keep making up lore that has already been stated as not true. Russia also invaded Japanese Manchuria like the Soviet’s did OTL. Japan got it worse, just wasn’t nuked, and managed to keep some bits of its empire.


My point still stands. Even if Russia didn't support Japan directly. It certainly supported it in other ways by allowing Japan to keep the Chineae territories as well as Manchuria remaining in the Co Prosperity Sphere despite being invaded by Russia. Japan got off easy because it wasn't nuked and allowed to keep its empire.

I'm the only one that suffered the most out of that. At least the Korean peninsula is united, unlike China.
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Imperialisium
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Postby Imperialisium » Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:50 pm

Union Princes wrote:
Imperialisium wrote:I’m like 103% sure I’ve stated Russia didn’t support Japan. Idk why you keep making up lore that has already been stated as not true. Russia also invaded Japanese Manchuria like the Soviet’s did OTL. Japan got it worse, just wasn’t nuked, and managed to keep some bits of its empire.


My point still stands. Even if Russia didn't support Japan directly. It certainly supported it in other ways by allowing Japan to keep the Chineae territories as well as Manchuria remaining in the Co Prosperity Sphere despite being invaded by Russia. Japan got off easy because it wasn't nuked and allowed to keep its empire.

I'm the only one that suffered the most out of that. At least the Korean peninsula is united, unlike China.


Your point doesn't stand...at all.

I've already stated weeks ago that what you're saying never canonically happened. Imperial Russia did still trade with Japan until February of 1943 when the US entered the war against Japan. But that is no different than the US selling Japan oil until 1941 OTL. That is not 'supporting Japan'. Russia was trading, not giving it away with the explicit purpose of 'supporting the Japanese war effort.'

Further, Japan did CANONICALLY get rocked harder. Period. Why? Because the Allies did actually invade Japan itself on top of firebombing its cities. How else did over a million Americans die in the Pacific War? Certainly not on Pacific Islands or the Philippines. Meaning there had to be a major land theatre aka Japan itself. This also means Japanese losses were probably higher than OTL and the reason it managed to keep parts of its Empire was merely to save lives on either side by ending the war. Also, much like OTL, the Japanese would have been batshit terrified of the Russians setting foot on Japanese soil after annihilating the largest, best equipped, Japanese army in five days flat. Again, much like OTL. Then threatening to enter Korea and then leap frog into the Japanese Home Islands which would have been already host to Allies vs Japanese forces duking it out.

So no, it wasn't let off easy. It merely managed to survive with the scraps of its empire. Further, the nukes weren't even what made Japan surrender in the first place IRL. After the nukes dropped the Japanese were still determined to call the American bluff and wage a last ditch all or nothing fatalistic defense of the Home Islands. It wasn't until the Red Army obliterated its way to Korea and the threat of the Red Army possibly also making landfall that convinced the Japanese leadership to surrender. Why? Probably because they had heard how the Red Army got revenge on the Germans and didn't want the Imperial Family to get executed by the Soviets if they managed to capture them.

Second the nukes didn't do all that much damage long term. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were already fully re-inhabited and mostly rebuilt five years later. By the late 1950s there wasn't really any trace of two nukes being dropped on Japan at all in terms of geography or urban settlement.

Further, while Manchuria was in the Co-Prosperity Sphere it was not subservient to Japan in any capacity. The CPS is just an economic bloc hosted by Japan. It has zero actual authority or temporal power over Manchuria or the Manchurian states policy making.
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Strala
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Postby Strala » Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:56 pm

Bruh what does a unified Korea have to do with a divided China?

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Postby Imperialisium » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:29 pm

Making Ricky Gervais proud...one bullet at a time.
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Revlona
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Postby Revlona » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:34 pm

Uh…can I surrender with honor please?
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Postby Deblar » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:36 pm

Revlona wrote:Uh…can I surrender with honor please?

“There is no mercy honor.” - Palpatine

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Postby Imperialisium » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:39 pm

Deblar wrote:
Revlona wrote:Uh…can I surrender with honor please?

“There is no mercy honor.” - Palpatine


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHQo8mjMge0
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Postby Revlona » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:45 pm

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Postby Imperialisium » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:54 pm



Meanwhile I'm sure like a dozen world leaders would be like..."Uh...well...we got nothing really against this...pretty sure most of those people were scum anyways. Do we...send postcards to the Tsarina now? Or...how do we do this?"
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Postby Strala » Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:01 pm

Welp with Russian restrictions I can at least save some money or potentially purchase even more equipment

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Postby Imperialisium » Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:04 pm

Strala wrote:Welp with Russian restrictions I can at least save some money or potentially purchase even more equipment


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Postby Monsone » Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:08 pm

Imperialisium wrote:Meanwhile I'm sure like a dozen world leaders would be like..."Uh...well...we got nothing really against this...pretty sure most of those people were scum anyways. Do we...send postcards to the Tsarina now? Or...how do we do this?"


I do wonder, what happened to Elongated Muskrat in all this? Surely quite a few American celebrities didn't go to Russia for any number of reasons.
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Postby Imperialisium » Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:13 pm

Monsone wrote:
Imperialisium wrote:Meanwhile I'm sure like a dozen world leaders would be like..."Uh...well...we got nothing really against this...pretty sure most of those people were scum anyways. Do we...send postcards to the Tsarina now? Or...how do we do this?"


I do wonder, what happened to Elongated Muskrat in all this? Surely quite a few American celebrities didn't go to Russia for any number of reasons.


No idea. I imagined Elonius Muskus would have fled to western europe or something? Maybe to Latin America. Could go to Canada but idk maybe cooler if he went to a player. Really I'm just purging the obviously corrupt scummy elites that most everyone hates cause...well why not.
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Postby Deblar » Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:35 pm

Russia be like:
YOU PICKED THE WRONG HOUSE, BLYAT

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Postby Hanovereich » Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:40 am

Ok, since we’re going to need a TLDR for all my posts apparently, here we are:

-50,000 soldiers are now advancing in the east, to Nanning.
-50,000 soldiers are now advancing in the west, to Wenshan.
-The remaining troops are to take the towns and villages in between.
-The Fleet of the North is now blockading Chinese ports in the southeast.
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Strala
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Postby Strala » Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:24 am

Imperialisium wrote:
Strala wrote:Welp with Russian restrictions I can at least save some money or potentially purchase even more equipment


Pimp My Military

join our host, the Empress of Russia, as she remakes the Korean military into a modernized force with modern equipment! Only on RealityTV.

A sizeable portion of these equipment are going straight to my coastal defense forces and airforce. Because I was stupid and made them too large and with hardly any equipment. They are definitely getting at least one or two armored and mechanized divisions.

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Antimersia
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Postby Antimersia » Fri Jul 09, 2021 6:28 am

Monsone wrote:
Imperialisium wrote:Meanwhile I'm sure like a dozen world leaders would be like..."Uh...well...we got nothing really against this...pretty sure most of those people were scum anyways. Do we...send postcards to the Tsarina now? Or...how do we do this?"


I do wonder, what happened to Elongated Muskrat in all this? Surely quite a few American celebrities didn't go to Russia for any number of reasons.


musk was detailed as being very involved with the republic of texas. his factories are being retrofitted to produce military equipment for the faction

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Hanovereich
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Postby Hanovereich » Fri Jul 09, 2021 6:40 am

What happened to him as a person? Imagine Musk geting executed by the Russians.
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Antimersia
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Postby Antimersia » Fri Jul 09, 2021 6:44 am

so how, pray tell, did american congressmen that I did not detail the movements of, get to russia without my knowledge?

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Antimersia
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Postby Antimersia » Fri Jul 09, 2021 6:45 am

Hanovereich wrote:What happened to him as a person? Imagine Musk geting executed by the Russians.


nothing. he is in texas, working helping the texas gov and running his businesses.

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Revlona
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Postby Revlona » Fri Jul 09, 2021 6:57 am

Antimersia wrote:so how, pray tell, did american congressmen that I did not detail the movements of, get to russia without my knowledge?


Probably along the lines of abandoning ship. Or the OP getting ready to tell you to pick one of the factions.

Edit: I'd assume very few would want to stay after Atlana
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Antimersia
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Postby Antimersia » Fri Jul 09, 2021 6:59 am

Revlona wrote:
Antimersia wrote:so how, pray tell, did american congressmen that I did not detail the movements of, get to russia without my knowledge?


Probably along the lines of abandoning ship. Or the OP getting ready to tell you to pick one of the factions.


well as of rn I still am the controller of the USA. so its a little overboard to just say what my congressman did, without even consulting me.

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Postby Revlona » Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:01 am

Antimersia wrote:
Revlona wrote:
Probably along the lines of abandoning ship. Or the OP getting ready to tell you to pick one of the factions.


well as of rn I still am the controller of the USA. so its a little overboard to just say what my congressman did, without even consulting me.


They were also left wing congressmen out of Cascadia and the like, I assume they were trying to escape the hangings
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Monsone
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Postby Monsone » Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:02 am

Antimersia wrote:
Hanovereich wrote:What happened to him as a person? Imagine Musk geting executed by the Russians.


nothing. he is in texas, working helping the texas gov and running his businesses.


German carmakers are going to have a field day selling electric cars if Musk is occupied with supplying Texas's war efforts.
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