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Postby Union Princes » Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:34 pm

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I’d use the DF-21D armed with conventional warhead on specific targets. It’s hypersonic (weapons Japan does not have and can’t reliably stop). To try and hit either specific ships or specific installations or military sites of interest. Now, these are expensive and costly to build and so really China can only make 11 of them a year. So don’t just fire all of them cause you won’t be able to just get more next month.


Yeah because of the high production cost, can I use the Taiwanese Hsiung Feng III as my medium-range anti-ship missiles? Instead of relying solely on my DFs.
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Postby TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON » Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:37 pm

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Imperialisium wrote:
I’d use the DF-21D armed with conventional warhead on specific targets. It’s hypersonic (weapons Japan does not have and can’t reliably stop). To try and hit either specific ships or specific installations or military sites of interest. Now, these are expensive and costly to build and so really China can only make 11 of them a year. So don’t just fire all of them cause you won’t be able to just get more next month.


Yeah because of the high production cost, can I use the Taiwanese Hsiung Feng III as my medium-range anti-ship missiles? Instead of relying solely on my DFs.


Those are Taiwanese and I control Taiwan. It would be like me using Korean missiles. I think unless stated in your app, you shouldn't have access to weapons not developed in your territory. These are weapons developed IRL with American support. Support in which communist China isn't going to have access to.
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Postby Union Princes » Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:43 pm

Does anyone remember if the UK player made an ORBAT? I'm trying to find that post where he sent a garrison fleet

Nevermind, I found that post.
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Postby Imperialisium » Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:49 pm

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Imperialisium wrote:
I’d use the DF-21D armed with conventional warhead on specific targets. It’s hypersonic (weapons Japan does not have and can’t reliably stop). To try and hit either specific ships or specific installations or military sites of interest. Now, these are expensive and costly to build and so really China can only make 11 of them a year. So don’t just fire all of them cause you won’t be able to just get more next month.


Yeah because of the high production cost, can I use the Taiwanese Hsiung Feng III as my medium-range anti-ship missiles? Instead of relying solely on my DFs.


You can use active radar. It’s still pretty accurate but you need to know where his ships are and even though it’s still hypersonic they’ll see the radar reflection coming at them. May get the first ship but by the time the second is coming all others would be doing evasive maneuvers and trying to mess with the missiles radar to make it miss.

Which ironically would make them useful at hitting IJN ships near HK or the coast or able to be picked up by land or air based radar. But the limitation of land based from a mobile unit would be the horizon so if his ships are over that it’ll be hard to get an accurate radar reflection. Could use over the horizon radar but those are big installations that stick out so Japan could just destroy it after they realize what happened.
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Postby Union Princes » Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:55 pm

Strala wrote:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_anti-ship_missiles

Here you go UP.


Thanks. Looks like I do have som variety
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Postby Imperialisium » Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:59 pm

*Loading Kinzhal.*

*Looks at Ukrainian Navy*
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Postby Strala » Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:02 pm

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Strala wrote:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_anti-ship_missiles

Here you go UP.


Thanks. Looks like I do have som variety

YJ-12,YJ-18, YJ-91, CX-1, CJ-1 for Submarines. There's also the HN-2000 unde development. Though I can't find anything about HN-2000 other than from Wikipedia so idk if it's true or not. There's also the C-101
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Postby Union Princes » Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:21 pm

Imperialisium wrote:*Loading Kinzhal.*

*Looks at Ukrainian Navy*

What' the results from Japan's missile strike?
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Postby Hanovereich » Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:48 am

Hm. Negotiations… depends what happens there. A status quo ante bellum for us all is not going to work, nor a partition of the losing side. I can accept a truce though, whilst we meet in Davos.

And I respectfully deny Germany’s reasoning for me joining the war, but that’s for IC.
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Postby Imperialisium » Wed Jul 07, 2021 7:25 am

Very interesting posts
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Postby Union Princes » Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:26 am

Writing my post. I just need to know what the results were from the missile attack
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Postby Hanovereich » Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:27 am

You can just say that you don’t know yet, or there’s a communication problem (IC), or just wait the results to come.
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Postby Monsone » Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:28 am

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Monsone wrote:Posted. In short: maybe Europe will get some sort of unity, and Merkel admonishes the leaders of Japan, the UK, and to a lesser extent, China, for acting like children and starting a war that is destabilizing an already very unstable world.


I wonder if I should seriously take upon meeting in Switzerland. It took me a while to realize the WEF and Davos are in the same place.


Up to you. It's a mediation opportunity, and it doesn't have to take place in Davos. Merkel probably just alluded to Davos since it's a place known for diplomacy. You could meet for peace talks in Geneva, or really any other part of Switzerland, or Europe as a whole.
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Postby Hanovereich » Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:29 am

Tbh Geneva is more well-known for diplomacy and negotiations. But Davos works.
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Postby Monsone » Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:31 am

Hanovereich wrote:Tbh Geneva is more well-known for diplomacy and negotiations


Only because of the Geneva Convention. Alternatively, there is The Hauge.
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Postby TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON » Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:18 am

What is the point of peace talks if neither side would be willing to compromise anything? Japan sees itself in a good position to win, and has not suffered any major defeats, making it not have any reason to end the conflict. Its objectives have not been completely fulfilled. Likewise, Soviet objectives have not be fulfilled either. He has a tall order including taking Hainan, HK, Tsingtao, and Tianjin. Japan isn't going to just hand them over. While the Soviets just faced a major blow to their navy as well as their long range anti-ship capabilities, they are still in the fight and would have no reason to want to meet Japanese demands.
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Postby Arvenia » Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:09 pm

We could see some more IC posts. I have made one recently (which I can't post images on due to the NS having implemented a new image policy early this month).
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Postby Hanovereich » Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:12 pm

Well, imgur works well.

And we've seen 4 IC posts today. And more yesterday. Posts don't have to occur daily, so most of us have posted in the last few days/today.
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Postby American Pere Housh » Wed Jul 07, 2021 6:01 pm

Union Princes wrote:Writing my post. I just need to know what the results were from the missile attack

UP, why are you so desperate to take HK from me? If you want it from me negotiate with me. Antimersia, you can't dismiss out of hand that MoD Communication Network was hacked by unknown actors. If I really wanted war, do you think my fleet would fleeing like it is or would it be attacking your fleet with Anti ship missiles?
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Postby Union Princes » Wed Jul 07, 2021 6:03 pm

We're already past the stage of negotiation. You ignored my warning in the IC and this is what you get.
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Postby American Pere Housh » Wed Jul 07, 2021 6:05 pm

Monsone wrote:
Hanovereich wrote:Tbh Geneva is more well-known for diplomacy and negotiations


Only because of the Geneva Convention. Alternatively, there is The Hauge.

Why are you taking China's side in your post?
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Postby Antimersia » Wed Jul 07, 2021 6:06 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:
Union Princes wrote:Writing my post. I just need to know what the results were from the missile attack

UP, why are you so desperate to take HK from me? If you want it from me negotiate with me. Antimersia, you can't dismiss out of hand that MoD Communication Network was hacked by unknown actors. If I really wanted war, do you think my fleet would fleeing like it is or would it be attacking your fleet with Anti ship missiles?


You seem to think my personal choices matter in this exchange. I have created characters that are running this country. every decision i make and write, is what I believe they would do. Dolonescu does not care if the hacking is true or not. although frankly I do personally doubt the story. She is only interested in being the all powerful tyrant she thought being president of the USA would allow her to be.
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Postby American Pere Housh » Wed Jul 07, 2021 6:10 pm

Union Princes wrote:We're already past the stage of negotiation. You ignored my warning in the IC and this is what you get.

You still can't steal another country's territory. You might not recognize the Treaty of Nanjing but the British government, namely Parliament, has officially as law. I'm willing to give you the New Territories but I refused to give you HK Island.
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