A Victory in the East (Alternate History RP/OOC) Open

[Union Princes]

How is transitioning to War Communism God modding? The declaration of war for this missile strikes? Even sending planes to intercept the bombers? At this point, I rather have the GA dictate the results

[Imperialisium]

How is transitioning to War Communism God modding? The declaration of war for this missile strikes? Even sending planes to intercept the bombers? At this point, I rather have the GA dictate the results

He’s referring to the whole dictating the outcome of the air battle by yourself with no input from him. He said everything else, aside from the missile acronym mix up, was fine.

[TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON]

How is transitioning to War Communism God modding? The declaration of war for this missile strikes? Even sending planes to intercept the bombers? At this point, I rather have the GA dictate the results

Stating that you downed my bombers is a god mod. Stating another player's casualties without permission is a god mod. Unless you are fine with me saying my fighters downed all of yours? I presume not.

[Union Princes]

Stating that you downed my bombers is a god mod. Stating another player's casualties without permission is a god mod. Unless you are fine with me saying my fighters downed all of yours? I presume not.

Given that you were underestimating my military while overestimating yours, I would not be surprised at all if you wrote something like that. For real, I would not be surprised if all my fighters were shot down by yours because that's how this rp is being played

[TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON]

Stating that you downed my bombers is a god mod. Stating another player's casualties without permission is a god mod. Unless you are fine with me saying my fighters downed all of yours? I presume not.

Given that you were underestimating my military while overestimating yours, I would not be surprised at all if you wrote something like that. For real, I would not be surprised if all my fighters were shot down by yours because that's how this rp is being played

That is not the case and I think you are intentionally missing the point.

However I think it still stands. I asked the OP and he said that it would be great if you fixed the god mod within 24 hours. Otherwise I can just post a non-god modded version of events.

[Union Princes]

Alright, fine. I'll delete everything

[TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON]

Alright, fine. I'll delete everything

That is not the point. All you need to do is remove the part where you dictate my casualties.

[Arvenia]

How is transitioning to War Communism God modding? The declaration of war for this missile strikes? Even sending planes to intercept the bombers? At this point, I rather have the GA dictate the results

He’s referring to the whole dictating the outcome of the air battle by yourself with no input from him. He said everything else, aside from the missile acronym mix up, was fine.

Damn, war broke out and my nation is trying to form ASEAN.

[Imperialisium]

Alright, fine. I'll delete everything

You're being willfully ignorant UP.

Dictating the outcome of battles by yourself, with not even a consult from the other player, is by definition God-Modding. Trying to excuse it because of how you perceive that all players are in some massive conspiracy against you is at best a delusion. If Tenno did the same thing and dictated an entire engagement by himself I would be telling him to change his post just the same. I've told you multiple times to drop this childish act that just because everything isn't instantly going your way, every single time, or at worst how you believe things should go, means that everyone is in some dark conference room discussing how best to screw you over. We're not, we never were, if anything the Operator, I, has been offering you advice and alternative ways of going about things that will in all likelihood benefit you against Japan. Which, you just keep ignoring and falling back on this bizarre notion that everyone is in some lair beneath the Arctic conniving on how best to make you miserable. We're not, we want you to have fun, but you need to understand the fundamentals of this RP.

-Its a Geo-Political RP that requires a level of competency far above the average International Incidents RP of 'I send thirty sextillion soldiers all armed with phasic nuclear ballista cannons directly to your capital.' This RP demands one take a moment when writing and think about how they would react if the head of a government. What are the possible options for a given scenario? What could happen if I pick A, B, or skip down to option W? Japan seems wanting to go on the offense cause time is not on Japan's side, China has major advantages playing defensively and could force Japan off the mainland via significant land advantages, so how best to sap Japanese strength when you know he has to do something to get initiative?

-The situation of the various countries is by all logic not fair or balanced. Why? Because reality is not fair or balanced. There is zero reason why Portugal should suddenly be equal to an alliance of Britain and France. There is zero reason why say Argentina should be able to out muscle the entirety of Latin America on their own. The RP forces players to think rationally and plan accordingly to what they can achieve short and long term. Sure, China does not have all the fancy smancy toys Japan may have. Sure, Japan has a larger more powerful fleet by a significant margin. So don't play into Japan's strengths. Play to your strengths. If you're playing Japan's strengths you'll obviously lose. So what is China strong in?

--War Communism: You literally can mobilized much more of your economy than Japan can to the sole purpose of war production. Japan's economy is purely not set up for such a switch and if he tried it would take years to match the sheer industrial capacity that China could start producing in a matter of months.

--Manpower: You can literally wage six different Verduns and that would put a negligible dent in your manpower pool. Japan cannot wage a war of attrition of such scale longer than a few weeks. He just doesn't have the bodies. Japan knows this and is therefore going to try and use other strategies to edge out a favorable outcome.

--Propaganda: You have a state controlled media apparatus like no other. You can sustain high losses and still paint a picture of things not being terrible for a far longer period than Japan can. Farmers in rural China may believe the Great Victory over Japan is coming even if Shanghai is being hit with White Phosphorus on the daily. Japan can't really do the same if Tokyo was suddenly suffering the same thing.

--financial resources: You have at minimum twice as many financial assets and leveraging resources than he does. Yeah, things economically are going to be tough that the US and USD are just shatting the bed. But Japan isn't honky dory either and in a financial starvation scenario you got way more fat on your bones than he does. Why he is also pressed for time and being so aggressive. He needs the favorable outcome sooner than later.

--One direction: You know Japan can only attack from East to West. You know where his land holdings are. He can't just invade from anywhere. Meaning you can concentrate way more firepower and assets knowing where he has to come from. And sure, if he did launch a massive sustained aerial campaign undoubtedly you would take damage. But guess what? So will he. And in an attrition with how much you could build up over time the losses in planes and more importantly pilots would be utterly unsustainable.

I can't underline how much of an advantage you have more than this.

[Arvenia]

As soon as the tide starts turning against Japan, they'll intervene on their behalf

Nah, India is fine sitting back and letting China and Japan wear themselves out against each other.

BE MY FRIEND!!!

[Segmentia]

Nah, India is fine sitting back and letting China and Japan wear themselves out against each other.

BE MY FRIEND!!!

Certainly in the cards

[Sao Nova Europa]

Meanwhile Greece will be legislating further corporate tax cuts (in post to be posted tomorrow morning) and will welcome the Russian Tsarina.

Make money, not war.

[Deblar]

Meanwhile Greece will be legislating further corporate tax cuts (in post to be posted tomorrow morning) and will welcome the Russian Tsarina.

Make money, not war.

Precisely

Speaking of money, I’m thinking about inviting Greece into the economic union as our European observer. You’d get to enjoy that delicious free trade, plus investment into the Caribbean will be made easier

[Union Princes]

Alright, I removed the godmod parts for the post. Now I can do something really fun for this rp.

[Imperialisium]

Excellent.

[American Pere Housh]

America still hasn't responded to my most recent post so I really can't do anything at the moment.

[TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON]

Alright, I removed the godmod parts for the post. Now I can do something really fun for this rp.

I am still wondering about the specific casualties. Shrouding the war in mystery is not how you will win. ICly maybe Japan may not know the full extent, but it would be nice that you made clear what was damaged, destroyed, sunk, wounded, killed, or missing. That plus an ORBAT helps keep players in check from pulling troops out of thin air or magically resurrecting units.

Otherwise in my post I will have an officer give an intelligence assessment which gives my opinion on you casualties which I stated before; 590 wounded and 234 dead; 6 fighters downed (from your previous iteration of your post); 1 destroyer sunk (from the 20% hit rate you gave); 2 carriers damaged; 4 carriers under construction damaged; 5 fighters destroyed on the ground; 7 fighters damaged on the ground; 2 bombers destroyed on the ground; 2 missile support vehicles destroyed.

[American Pere Housh]

Alright, I removed the godmod parts for the post. Now I can do something really fun for this rp.

Even with nation like yours, total war is impossible plus the Japanese Navy can put a stranglehold on your economy while it would effect the world economy some but you wouldn't be able to survive.

[Union Princes]

Even with nation like yours, total war is impossible plus the Japanese Navy can put a stranglehold on your economy while it would effect the world economy some but you wouldn't be able to survive.

It's funny that you are directly contradicting what the OP said about China's situation.

[Segmentia]

Is it just arguments every other page in this rp? Good lord.

[TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON]

Alright, I removed the godmod parts for the post. Now I can do something really fun for this rp.

Even with nation like yours, total war is impossible plus the Japanese Navy can put a stranglehold on your economy while it would effect the world economy some but you wouldn't be able to survive.

I would understand that Britain will be facing off with the US, however some British support for Japan in whatever way possible would be appreciated. Japan would be interested in hiring PMCs or advisors from Britain to help train the troops so experienced troops could be sent to the front lines.

Japan will be trying to contact the US and encouraging it to exercise restraint against Britain, and it will try its best to lobby it to avoid hostilities all together.

[Speyland]

Nationstates Name Speyland

Nation Name Vatican City/Holy See
Capital Vatican City
Type of Government Unitary Christian absolute monarchy
Head of State(s) Pope Francis
Head of Government (if applicable) Same as above.
Picture of Leader

Party in Power N/A
Executive Title Pope, obviously.
Flag

Currency Vatican franc
Population 1,000
GDP N/A
GDP Growth N/A
Inflation N/A
Population below poverty line N/A
Gini N/A
Value of currency compared to United States Dollar $10
Major trade partners Italy

Total military size 134
Breakdown of ground forces 134 (Pontifical Swiss Guard)
Breakdown of naval naval forces 0
Breakdown of air forces 0
Major foreign military suppliers if applicable Italy
Extra Armed Forces details N/A

Ongoing major and minor domestic Issues

Female Pope Controversy
Pope Francis recently made a decree that women are allowed to take the position of pope. However, government officials within the Holy See are against the idea that it is taboo for women to become pope. Interestingly enough, according to legend, Pope Joan was a woman who reigned as pope for an unknown number of years during the Middle Ages. Her story was thought to be true for centuries, but most modern scholars regard it as fictional. Gwen Pugh, a 67-year-old Welsh nun, is eligible to be elected as the first female pope if Pope Francis were to resign or die. His decision leaves the Holy See in a state of a heated debate, and it's yet to be resolved.


Religion Breakdown 100% Roman Catholic
Political Breakdown N/A
History Vatican City's history remains the same as OTL. The only difference being that Pope Francis recently made a decree that women are allowed to take the position of the pope, but others within the Holy See are against this idea which leaves a heated debate of whether or not females are allowed access to the Holy See which is yet to be resolved.
Organization Membership N/A
Goals Public and Private

Public: To remain neutral for the longest time and avoid a country's (Italy, mostly) political affairs.

Private: By resolving an issue by whether or not women should take the position of pope.

Roleplay example link https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=490228&p=37775475#p37775475

[American Pere Housh]

Even with nation like yours, total war is impossible plus the Japanese Navy can put a stranglehold on your economy while it would effect the world economy some but you wouldn't be able to survive.

I would understand that Britain will be facing off with the US, however some British support for Japan in whatever way possible would be appreciated. Japan would be interested in hiring PMCs or advisors from Britain to help train the troops so experienced troops could be sent to the front lines.

Japan will be trying to contact the US and encouraging it to exercise restraint against Britain, and it will try its best to lobby it to avoid hostilities all together.

I can send some PMCs and advisers your way.

[American Pere Housh]

Even with nation like yours, total war is impossible plus the Japanese Navy can put a stranglehold on your economy while it would effect the world economy some but you wouldn't be able to survive.

It's funny that you are directly contradicting what the OP said about China's situation.

Tell how you are planning on getting things such as oil which even in this TL, you are an importer of, past the IJN if they decide to blockade your coast?

[Union Princes]

With blockade runners and the such. With America in a civil war, Russia and the Middle East are the next sources for oil, which I can try to buy from through Burma and Mongolia