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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:10 am
by Langenia
Imperium of Rus wrote:
Langenia wrote:
*sigh* But the Netherlands isn't very stronk :(

As the person playing as the Ottoman Empire, i think the Dutch have it better.


Fair enough.

Can I reserve the Netherlands?

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:12 am
by Bolslania
Langenia wrote:
Romextly wrote:Try the Netherlands


*sigh* But the Netherlands isn't very stronk :(


Netherlands, Spain's reservation is up so thats available, Portugal is open


And yes, Netherlands reservation approved

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:27 am
by Langenia
Just gonna say, this Netherlands is gonna be more nationalistic and resistant to foreign occupation. Oh, and it's gonna be power-hungry too. 8)

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:29 am
by Northern Poland
Langenia wrote:Just gonna say, this Netherlands is gonna be more nationalistic and resistant to foreign occupation. Oh, and it's gonna be power-hungry too. 8)

It better be a friend of France and I

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:50 am
by Monsone
American Pere Housh wrote:Its democracy time in the New World. 8) :p :p


Yeah, except literally no one is a democracy in 1799. Even nations with democratic organs suppress the vote for whole groups of their population. America and Mexico are just as democratic as the UK or any other semi-constitutional monarchy.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:59 am
by American Pere Housh
Monsone wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote:Its democracy time in the New World. 8) :p :p


Yeah, except literally no one is a democracy in 1799. Even nations with democratic organs suppress the vote for whole groups of their population. America and Mexico are just as democratic as the UK or any other semi-constitutional monarchy.

Actually Mexico in this timeline doesn't suppress the vote well we only men 18 and older to vote also we don't have any land ownership requirements to vote.

Democracy will win the day. FREEDOM!!!!!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:01 pm
by American Pere Housh
Langenia wrote:Just gonna say, this Netherlands is gonna be more nationalistic and resistant to foreign occupation. Oh, and it's gonna be power-hungry too. 8)

The Netherlands might not be a big military power but they are a big economic power.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:16 pm
by Langenia
American Pere Housh wrote:
Langenia wrote:Just gonna say, this Netherlands is gonna be more nationalistic and resistant to foreign occupation. Oh, and it's gonna be power-hungry too. 8)

The Netherlands might not be a big military power but they are a big economic power.


I know. I wanted to play as a big military power, but apparently that won't be possible. So im gonna have to turn the Dutch into a military power too somehow.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:21 pm
by Romextly
Also slavery is illegal in mexico

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:29 pm
by Imperium of Rus
Romextly wrote:Also slavery is illegal in mexico

Well, not in here.

but you can get a high ranking job if you're the sultans slave

unless you're a woman

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:35 pm
by Deblar
Romextly wrote:Also slavery is illegal in mexico

I can’t really touch slavery right now because if I did, I’d piss of the south, and we all know how that would go...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:35 pm
by American Pere Housh
Langenia wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote:The Netherlands might not be a big military power but they are a big economic power.


I know. I wanted to play as a big military power, but apparently that won't be possible. So im gonna have to turn the Dutch into a military power too somehow.

If the United States is willing the Netherlands, the United States and Mexico can forge an alliance similar to NATO. If you get attacked by any European power, that power will automatically be at war with countries 3000+ miles away and the U.K., France and Spain have a big enough fleet to move a sizable amount of troops to properly invade.
Imperium of Rus wrote:
Romextly wrote:Also slavery is illegal in mexico

Well, not in here.

but you can get a high ranking job if you're the sultans slave

unless you're a woman

Ah yes if you are slave in North America, come to Mexico and you will be free also any bounty hunters going after runaway slaves that will be tried and executed.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:12 pm
by Monsone
American Pere Housh wrote:Actually Mexico in this timeline doesn't suppress the vote well we only men 18 and older to vote also we don't have any land ownership requirements to vote.

Democracy will win the day. FREEDOM!!!!!


Do note that if you mess with European colonies, there might be unintended consequences. European economies demand a constant supply of goods from the Americas to fuel them, and the nations who will be most affected by messing with the colonies will retaliate to secure their economic positions.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:16 pm
by Northern Poland
It would be pretty based if like, the US just invaded Canada and bought Louisiana.


Not suggesting anything... totally..

Please?

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:20 pm
by Trenaka
Romextly wrote:Trenaka, you should include the location of the meeting to your letter in Bavaria

I edited it and put the location in there.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:23 pm
by Northern Poland
Current Roman Objectives

1. Reunify Italy
2. Big armee
3. ????
4. Profit, Pax Romana v2

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:42 pm
by American Pere Housh
Monsone wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote:Actually Mexico in this timeline doesn't suppress the vote well we only men 18 and older to vote also we don't have any land ownership requirements to vote.

Democracy will win the day. FREEDOM!!!!!


Do note that if you mess with European colonies, there might be unintended consequences. European economies demand a constant supply of goods from the Americas to fuel them, and the nations who will be most affected by messing with the colonies will retaliate to secure their economic positions.

Both the U.S. and Mexico just fought off two of the strongest powers in the world, the Europeans will be treated the same way we treated the Spanish and the Americans fought the British. I'm think of colonizing what will become the Oregon Territory and expand up the Pacific coast until my territory touches Alaska.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:43 pm
by Deblar
American Pere Housh wrote:
Monsone wrote:
Do note that if you mess with European colonies, there might be unintended consequences. European economies demand a constant supply of goods from the Americas to fuel them, and the nations who will be most affected by messing with the colonies will retaliate to secure their economic positions.

Both the U.S. and Mexico just fought off two of the strongest powers in the world, the Europeans will be treated the same way we treated the Spanish and the Americans fought the British. I'm think of colonizing what will become the Oregon Territory and expand up the Pacific coast until my territory touches Alaska.

America who'd been planning on Manifest Destiny:

EXCUSE ME???!!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:46 pm
by American Pere Housh
Northern Poland wrote:It would be pretty based if like, the US just invaded Canada and bought Louisiana.


Not suggesting anything... totally..

Please?

The US doesn't have the army to properly invade Canada also if I join the war in Europe, I'm invading Louisiana territory then hand it over to the United States.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:50 pm
by American Pere Housh
Deblar wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote:Both the U.S. and Mexico just fought off two of the strongest powers in the world, the Europeans will be treated the same way we treated the Spanish and the Americans fought the British. I'm think of colonizing what will become the Oregon Territory and expand up the Pacific coast until my territory touches Alaska.

America who'd been planning on Manifest Destiny:

EXCUSE ME???!!

Would rather the British or Tartarstan get it? I already planning on releasing some of my territory to you in the future though which will be negotiated at a later time.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:56 pm
by Monsone
American Pere Housh wrote:Both the U.S. and Mexico just fought off two of the strongest powers in the world, the Europeans will be treated the same way we treated the Spanish and the Americans fought the British. I'm think of colonizing what will become the Oregon Territory and expand up the Pacific coast until my territory touches Alaska.


Those are lands claimed for the British crown, I would tread lightly there unless you want to Royal Navy to show up. And I can assure you that they won't merely be showing up for a tea party.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:04 pm
by American Pere Housh
Monsone wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote:Both the U.S. and Mexico just fought off two of the strongest powers in the world, the Europeans will be treated the same way we treated the Spanish and the Americans fought the British. I'm think of colonizing what will become the Oregon Territory and expand up the Pacific coast until my territory touches Alaska.


Those are lands claimed for the British crown, I would tread lightly there unless you want to Royal Navy to show up. And I can assure you that they won't merely be showing up for a tea party.

And yet its not a legal possession of Britain only a claim. I don't think the British can handle a long, drawn out and bloody war witha war in Europe brewing.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:05 pm
by Northern Poland
American Pere Housh wrote:
Northern Poland wrote:It would be pretty based if like, the US just invaded Canada and bought Louisiana.


Not suggesting anything... totally..

Please?

The US doesn't have the army to properly invade Canada also if I join the war in Europe, I'm invading Louisiana territory then hand it over to the United States.



"Today I will declare war on the only stable republics in Europe, and support colonial empires that actively fought to destroy us."

:p

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:11 pm
by American Pere Housh
Northern Poland wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote:The US doesn't have the army to properly invade Canada also if I join the war in Europe, I'm invading Louisiana territory then hand it over to the United States.



"Today I will declare war on the only stable republics in Europe, and support colonial empires that actively fought to destroy us."

:p

Spain is and always will be our enemy. We have no quarrel with Britain or their allies.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:12 pm
by Monsone
American Pere Housh wrote:And yet its not a legal possession of Britain only a claim. I don't think the British can handle a long, drawn out and bloody war witha war in Europe brewing.


Not only can Britain do so, but they have already done so in a quite spectacular fashion. The IRL Napoleonic wars proved it as Britain fought in Europe, India, and the Americas simultaneously with successes and victories in all three theaters. The Seven Years War played out similarly with Britain fighting on multiple continents and still winning despite being massively outnumbered.

Lessons have been learned from previous wars, and Britain also has the advantage of being the most industrialized country in the world at this time. If there is any country that can fight on multiple, fronts across oceans, and against multiple formidable enemies, it's likely the UK.