Zarnicovia nova wrote:Bolslania wrote:
I am actually going to have to step in here, Sao Nova Europa's app does state that he controls Manchuria
yeah, but mongolia would be much closer to manchuria where the qing come from. And not having manchuria. manchuria is literally the qing's birth place. His history sounds like the golden horse (which is from the don area) formed russia and then continued as basically the same history as russia. Manchuria is the literal birth place of the qing.
The manchus formed qing. They would have there home place (In some part)
Their app states that Manchuria was taken between 1500 and 1700, so lets say that the Qing dynasty was established in 1644, and Tatarstan took it later than that.
It sets up a point of contention between China and Tatarstan, while still legitimizing both apps.