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Postby Imperialisium » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:56 pm

Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:So what type of medals could one get as a really good fighter pilot between 2327-2338?


For combat or not? I'll list below some for non-combat in the meantime.

Distinguished Aerospace Cross: Awarded to Aerospace Pilots for exemplary acts or service during incidents or events that are not routine.

Distinguished Service Medal: For meritorious service to the government.

Pilots Medal: For Acts of Heroism not involving combat

Voidsman Medal of Heroism: Awarded to Aerospace Force, Marine, and Navy personnel for heroic acts, combat optional.

Defense Meritorious Service Medal: Recognizes noncombat meritorious service in a joint assignment. (Only awarded to senior officers)

Meritorious Service Medal for Pilots of the Terran Federation: For outstanding noncombat meritorious achievement or service. (Available for all ranks)

Aerospace Medal: For single acts of heroism or meritorious achievements in aerial flight. (Only to Aerospace Personnel)

Joint Service Commendation Medal: Must be for an operation involving two or more branches and citation given by one or more officers from two different branches.

Good Conduct Medal: Impeccable conduct, efficiency, and service. Requirement for service over five years to be a candidate for award.

There is likely various other lesser Awards, Non-Medals, and Citations etc etc.
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Name: Erica Rayne
Date of Birth: 30 November, 2311 (Age 28)
Homeworld: Earth
Place of Birth: Copenhagen, Denmark
Prior Criminal Record: N/A
Prior Service: N/A
Character Description: 1.83 Meters, 75 Kilograms, athletic build.
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Family:

  • Mother: Sarah Rayne
  • Father: William Rayne
  • Sister: Hertha Rayne
  • Brother: Langley Rayne


Biography: Erica Rayne was born on the 30th of November in Copenhagen, Denmark. From a very early age, her life would be scared by the ravages of war. While her immediate family happened to be vacationing at the time, many of her relatives and her home was wiped out in the Martian nuclear attacks. Her family was upper middle class before the war, but they found themselves refugees in it's aftermath, eventually settling in the midwest of the United States. Her parents, while not being from Mars, were peace advocates before and during the war. Kids, often being devious and cruel would learn about this and consistently tease her. In response She developed and learned to live with a simmering temper and made studying her friend, determining at a young age that she'd be a pilot, so that she could stop the repeat of the tragedy that destroyed her home and left her to grow up as despised outcast.

Her parents on the other hand, had lost the ideological motivation behind their peace advocacy, and committed entirely to supporting their children, though all ended up leaning towards military service. Nonetheless, her curiosity eventually lead her to read up on her parents work in her teens. While it did not change her career choice, it profoundly effected the way she'd end up approaching military strategy and tactics, as it made her appreciation for the horrors of war more personal. Her determination and desire to escape secondary school as quickly as possible saw her get into Officer training for the Aerospace Force at 16 and her large wellspring of knowledge in addition to a quick mind and athleticism honed by training herself from childhood, she graduate a Second Lieutenant at 19 years old, in 2330.

Between 2330 and 2337, Erica proved herself not only a very capable pilot, but an excellent tactician, in addition to producing extensive strategic insight to every post she took. She took the knowledge she'd gained from years of historical study to become absolutely formidable in taking out terrorist and guerilla forces, taking bits of knowledge of military history beyond what she learned in officer schooling and matching them to modern technology and environments. Though she is a very able pilot with the Apollo-Class Superiority Fighter, racking up dozens of kills of space, air and planetary targets, what stood out most of about her was her ability to use Raven-Class Scout as an effective weapon. It's inadequacy in dog-fighting often nullified by her creative use of orbital mechanics to get an advantage in space combat, along with an aggressive usage of head-on engagements in atmospheric combat. Often times her insight and skill allowed successful deployment of forces that made battles of attrition unnecessary, preferring to checkmate the enemy to needing to annihilate them.

In 2337, during a off duty time while on a colony, she and a few superior officers were ambushed in a civilian zone that by were apparently relatives of the individuals that died during a recent attack on a terrorist outpost. They fended them off, but not before she was forced to kill the ring leader of the group to scare off the rest and protect an injured superior. Despite being rewarded medals for her conduct, Erica was left demoralized by the confrontation. All of the second guessing she had about being a soldier in her teens came flooding back. At one point she considered resigning, but after being convinced by her colleagues and encouraged by an early promotion to being a Major, she accepted the "compromise" of a transfer to the Valkyrie to be the leader of it's Recon Squadron.

Current List of significant awards and medals:
  • Aerospace Medal
  • Colonial Cross 1st Class
  • Colonial Star
  • Distinguished Aerospace Cross
  • Distinguished Service Medal
  • Good Conduct Medal
  • Joint Service Commendation Medal
  • Meritorious Service Medal for Pilots of the Terran Federation
  • Pilots Medal
  • Solar Cross
  • Voidsman Medal of Heroism

Enlistment Files

Current Service Branch: Aerospace Force

Current Rank: Major

Past Rank History:

  • Second Lieutenant (2330)
  • First Lieutenant (2331)
  • Captain (2334)

Service History: 2327-2338
Specialization: Fighter Pilot, Special Operations Pilot
Service Position aboard Ship: Leader of Raven-Class Reconnaissance Squadron.

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Revlona wrote:Personnel Files
Name: Andrew Takimani
Date of Birth: 04/09/2305
Homeworld: Earth
Place of Birth: Savannah, Former state of Georgia in the North American Continent
Prior Criminal Record: 2 counts of Misdemeanor Reckless Driving, both at age 17
Prior Service: No Prior Service
Character Description: Standing at Six Foot Two Inches or 1.87 Meters, Andrew is a well built man who fills out his height with muscle. As denominated by his name, Andrew is the son of a Japanese-American couple. His height comes from his mothers side while his more tanned and Asian features come from his fathers side. Andrew keeps his hair well groomed as is regulation and he has a small scar which runs across the left side of his chin, this being the result of a training accident in the academy. Almost a young Ken Watanabe.
Family:
Daichi Takimani (Deceased): Father of Andrew Takimani, killed in the Martian Nuclear blast which erased parts of Tokyo.
Alexis Takimani: Mother of Andrew Takimani, currently is running for office in Parliament on an Anti-Mars ideals.
Syla Takimani (Deceased): Older Sister to Andrew Takimani, killed in the Martian Nuclear blast which Erased parts of Tokyo.
Suga Takimani: Younger Brother, currently in a Captain in the Army.
Alice Takanami: Wife, Major in the AGC, former Marine who transferred into earths AGC to take care of the couples children.
Alexander Daichi Takanami: Eldest child 12, named after Andrew’s father and Grandfather on his mother’s side.
Syla Takanami: Daughter, 11, named after Andrew’s sisters who was killed by the Martians.
Hana Takimani: Youngest sibling of Andrew Takimani, currently in her final year at Earths fleet academy on Earth.

Biography: Andrew Takimani was born to Eric and Alexis Takimani in the City of Savannah, he was the second of their four children. The Takimanis, in the form of Daichi Takimani, came over to the North American continent from Japan in the late 23rd century for a Job Opportunity. Diachi quickly decided to stay after meeting his future wife and Andrews mother, Alexis Hunter. The two married in 2301 and had their first child Syla Takimani the next year.

Andrew was eight years old when the First Great Colonial war kicked off, he remembers in vivid detail the air raid drills and other drills he did in elementary school. He was ten when his father and older sister died in the Nuclear attacks which proceeded the Martian Invasion. His father had been visiting his own parents home in Tokyo and had brought his eldest child, Syla, with him. They along with Daichis parents died immediately in the blast.

In the following invasion of Earth by Martian forces, the eastern seaboard of North America saw heavy fighting. Andrew’s own mother had already joined the defenses with her AGC unit. Andrew and his siblings fled into the rural parts of Georgia with her mother’s parents, staying with their mothers brother.

The family was lucky to have a home to return to after the Martians had been beaten back, many of their neighbors weren’t as lucky as them and had nothing to return to. Ever since those days Andrew and his family have had a deeply ingrained hatred towards Mars and the Martians for what they took from them. Following the end of the war Andrew applied for the University of Georgia JROTC program and used that to join the Colonial Marine Corps as an officer.

The early parts of Andrew’s CMC career saw him fighting fanatics insurrection of the New Sun. Using this combat experience and his own hard work and diligence, Andrew swiftly rose through the ranks to find himself Commanding Officer of the Marine Detachment Aboard the Valkyrie in just about 10 years. A small part of him has always wished that war would break out with the Martians again, allowing him to avenge his father and sister.

Enlistment Files
Current Service Branch: Colonial Marine Corps
Current Rank: Lieutenant Colonel
Past Rank History: 2nd Lieutenant, 2323-2324
1st Lieutenant 2324-2326
Captain 2326-2330
Major 2330-2335
Lieutenant Colonel 2335-Present
Service History: CMC 3323-Present
Specialization: CMC
Service Position aboard Ship: Commanding Officer of Marine Detachment aboard Ship


Denied. Age up or lower the rank of your character to reflect the rank of Lt. Colonel. Which is whatever year they enlisted, completed basic and got into officers school, plus 16 years.
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Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:Name: Erica Rayne
Date of Birth: 30 November, 2311 (Age 28)
Homeworld: Earth
Place of Birth: Copenhagen, Denmark
Prior Criminal Record: N/A
Prior Service: N/A
Character Description: 1.83 Meters, 75 Kilograms, athletic build.

Family:

  • Mother: Sarah Rayne
  • Father: William Rayne
  • Sister: Hertha Rayne
  • Brother: Langley Rayne


Biography: Erica Rayne was born on the 30th of November in Copenhagen, Denmark. From a very early age, her life would be scared by the ravages of war. While her immediate family happened to be vacationing at the time, many of her relatives and her home was wiped out in the Martian nuclear attacks. Her family was upper middle class before the war, but they found themselves refugees in it's aftermath, eventually settling in the midwest of the United States. Her parents, while not being from Mars, were peace advocates before and during the war. Kids, often being devious and cruel would learn about this and consistently tease her. In response She developed and learned to live with a simmering temper and made studying her friend, determining at a young age that she'd be a pilot, so that she could stop the repeat of the tragedy that destroyed her home and left her to grow up as despised outcast.

Her parents on the other hand, had lost the ideological motivation behind their peace advocacy, and committed entirely to supporting their children, though all ended up leaning towards military service. Nonetheless, her curiosity eventually lead her to read up on her parents work in her teens. While it did not change her career choice, it profoundly effected the way she'd end up approaching military strategy and tactics, as it made her appreciation for the horrors of war more personal. Her determination and desire to escape secondary school as quickly as possible saw her get into Officer training for the Aerospace Force at 16 and her large wellspring of knowledge in addition to a quick mind and athleticism honed by training herself from childhood, she graduate a Second Lieutenant at 19 years old, in 2330.

Between 2330 and 2337, Erica proved herself not only a very capable pilot, but an excellent tactician, in addition to producing extensive strategic insight to every post she took. She took the knowledge she'd gained from years of historical study to become absolutely formidable in taking out terrorist and guerilla forces, taking bits of knowledge of military history beyond what she learned in officer schooling and matching them to modern technology and environments. Though she is a very able pilot with the Apollo-Class Superiority Fighter, racking up dozens of kills of space, air and planetary targets, what stood out most of about her was her ability to use Raven-Class Scout as an effective weapon. It's inadequacy in dog-fighting often nullified by her creative use of orbital mechanics to get an advantage in space combat, along with an aggressive usage of head-on engagements in atmospheric combat. Often times her insight and skill allowed successful deployment of forces that made battles of attrition unnecessary, preferring to checkmate the enemy to needing to annihilate them.

In 2337, during a off duty time while on a colony, she and a few superior officers were ambushed in a civilian zone that by were apparently relatives of the individuals that died during a recent attack on a terrorist outpost. They fended them off, but not before she was forced to kill the ring leader of the group to scare off the rest and protect an injured superior. Despite being rewarded medals for her conduct, Erica was left demoralized by the confrontation. All of the second guessing she had about being a soldier in her teens came flooding back. At one point she considered resigning, but after being convinced by her colleagues and encouraged by an early promotion to being a Major, she accepted the "compromise" of a transfer to the Valkyrie to be the leader of it's Recon Squadron.

Current List of significant awards and medals:
  • Aerospace Medal
  • Colonial Cross 1st Class
  • Colonial Star
  • Distinguished Aerospace Cross
  • Distinguished Service Medal
  • Good Conduct Medal
  • Joint Service Commendation Medal
  • Meritorious Service Medal for Pilots of the Terran Federation
  • Pilots Medal
  • Solar Cross
  • Voidsman Medal of Heroism

Enlistment Files

Current Service Branch: Aerospace Force

Current Rank: Major

Past Rank History:

  • Second Lieutenant (2330)
  • First Lieutenant (2331)
  • Captain (2334)

Service History: 2327-2338
Specialization: Fighter Pilot, Special Operations Pilot
Service Position aboard Ship: Leader of Raven-Class Reconnaissance Squadron.


Well laid out application. But I have to deny it in its current state due to the character being to unbelievable/too perfect.

The issues are the following and again its just grounding the character to fit the setting:

16 is too young for enlistment in any branch. Would have to be 17 minimum and it would not be into officers school. It would be into basic training, then screening to be accepted into basic flight, then combat pilot training/officers training etc. So she wouldn't be allowed to fly at minimum age of 18 which is incredibly rare. More likely she'd be given her wings and then commission as a Second Lieutenant around the age of 22-23. From then on her rank progression would be based on military standards which no amount of studying or treatise writing, which also is hard to believe by her having zero practical experience, would influence. Generally the average age of Major is around 33 years old. Generally the year you joined plus 10 years of service and getting selected for promotion each time. So if you want a Major, especially one who is getting promotions during peace time, you'd likely be your early thirties.

Its highly unlikely she'd get dozens and dozens of kills in peacetime. Even with proxy fighting and low intensity conflicts there is no real believability that she is just being an Ace of Aces like that. Also the whole 'brilliant tactician' thing is just a not-how-it-works and is a massive NS Armchair trope. In terms of Medals, my list was not what she would have but examples of medals that could be awarded. Below are medals that are more believable for a peacetime pilot to have:

Distinguished Aerospace Cross
Distinguished Service Medal
Good Conduct Medal
Meritorious Service Medal for Pilots of the Terran Federation
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:50 am

So, is there a rank list or something like that for telling how many years are needed to go up a rank?

Anyway, might go for marines as it seems that slot has been left vacant. Also it could be fun to be a bit more in the action.
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Postby Revlona » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:47 am

Imperialisium wrote:
Revlona wrote:Personnel Files
Name: Andrew Takimani
Date of Birth: 04/09/2305
Homeworld: Earth
Place of Birth: Savannah, Former state of Georgia in the North American Continent
Prior Criminal Record: 2 counts of Misdemeanor Reckless Driving, both at age 17
Prior Service: No Prior Service
Character Description: Standing at Six Foot Two Inches or 1.87 Meters, Andrew is a well built man who fills out his height with muscle. As denominated by his name, Andrew is the son of a Japanese-American couple. His height comes from his mothers side while his more tanned and Asian features come from his fathers side. Andrew keeps his hair well groomed as is regulation and he has a small scar which runs across the left side of his chin, this being the result of a training accident in the academy. Almost a young Ken Watanabe.
Family:
Daichi Takimani (Deceased): Father of Andrew Takimani, killed in the Martian Nuclear blast which erased parts of Tokyo.
Alexis Takimani: Mother of Andrew Takimani, currently is running for office in Parliament on an Anti-Mars ideals.
Syla Takimani (Deceased): Older Sister to Andrew Takimani, killed in the Martian Nuclear blast which Erased parts of Tokyo.
Suga Takimani: Younger Brother, currently in a Captain in the Army.
Alice Takanami: Wife, Major in the AGC, former Marine who transferred into earths AGC to take care of the couples children.
Alexander Daichi Takanami: Eldest child 12, named after Andrew’s father and Grandfather on his mother’s side.
Syla Takanami: Daughter, 11, named after Andrew’s sisters who was killed by the Martians.
Hana Takimani: Youngest sibling of Andrew Takimani, currently in her final year at Earths fleet academy on Earth.

Biography: Andrew Takimani was born to Eric and Alexis Takimani in the City of Savannah, he was the second of their four children. The Takimanis, in the form of Daichi Takimani, came over to the North American continent from Japan in the late 23rd century for a Job Opportunity. Diachi quickly decided to stay after meeting his future wife and Andrews mother, Alexis Hunter. The two married in 2301 and had their first child Syla Takimani the next year.

Andrew was eight years old when the First Great Colonial war kicked off, he remembers in vivid detail the air raid drills and other drills he did in elementary school. He was ten when his father and older sister died in the Nuclear attacks which proceeded the Martian Invasion. His father had been visiting his own parents home in Tokyo and had brought his eldest child, Syla, with him. They along with Daichis parents died immediately in the blast.

In the following invasion of Earth by Martian forces, the eastern seaboard of North America saw heavy fighting. Andrew’s own mother had already joined the defenses with her AGC unit. Andrew and his siblings fled into the rural parts of Georgia with her mother’s parents, staying with their mothers brother.

The family was lucky to have a home to return to after the Martians had been beaten back, many of their neighbors weren’t as lucky as them and had nothing to return to. Ever since those days Andrew and his family have had a deeply ingrained hatred towards Mars and the Martians for what they took from them. Following the end of the war Andrew applied for the University of Georgia JROTC program and used that to join the Colonial Marine Corps as an officer.

The early parts of Andrew’s CMC career saw him fighting fanatics insurrection of the New Sun. Using this combat experience and his own hard work and diligence, Andrew swiftly rose through the ranks to find himself Commanding Officer of the Marine Detachment Aboard the Valkyrie in just about 10 years. A small part of him has always wished that war would break out with the Martians again, allowing him to avenge his father and sister.

Enlistment Files
Current Service Branch: Colonial Marine Corps
Current Rank: Lieutenant Colonel
Past Rank History: 2nd Lieutenant, 2323-2324
1st Lieutenant 2324-2326
Captain 2326-2330
Major 2330-2335
Lieutenant Colonel 2335-Present
Service History: CMC 3323-Present
Specialization: CMC
Service Position aboard Ship: Commanding Officer of Marine Detachment aboard Ship


Denied. Age up or lower the rank of your character to reflect the rank of Lt. Colonel. Which is whatever year they enlisted, completed basic and got into officers school, plus 16 years.



I’m confused, so I’ve been denied and accepted? I’ll age up the character but that was a bit weird.

Edit: alright quick edit and it should be fixed
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Perfect
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:30 pm

Imperialisium wrote:Perfect


So, what about ranks?
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Postby Revlona » Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:53 pm

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Imperialisium wrote:Perfect


So, what about ranks?


Google is our best friend it seems. Also the US military.

The average time it takes the US military to achieve their ranks seems to line up with what the OP has been saying, 16 years lines up with Lt Col after a quick google.
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Postby Cybernetic Socialist Republics » Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:56 pm

Imperialisium wrote:
Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:Name: Erica Rayne
Date of Birth: 30 November, 2311 (Age 28)
Homeworld: Earth
Place of Birth: Copenhagen, Denmark
Prior Criminal Record: N/A
Prior Service: N/A
Character Description: 1.83 Meters, 75 Kilograms, athletic build.

Family:

  • Mother: Sarah Rayne
  • Father: William Rayne
  • Sister: Hertha Rayne
  • Brother: Langley Rayne


Biography: Erica Rayne was born on the 30th of November in Copenhagen, Denmark. From a very early age, her life would be scared by the ravages of war. While her immediate family happened to be vacationing at the time, many of her relatives and her home was wiped out in the Martian nuclear attacks. Her family was upper middle class before the war, but they found themselves refugees in it's aftermath, eventually settling in the midwest of the United States. Her parents, while not being from Mars, were peace advocates before and during the war. Kids, often being devious and cruel would learn about this and consistently tease her. In response She developed and learned to live with a simmering temper and made studying her friend, determining at a young age that she'd be a pilot, so that she could stop the repeat of the tragedy that destroyed her home and left her to grow up as despised outcast.

Her parents on the other hand, had lost the ideological motivation behind their peace advocacy, and committed entirely to supporting their children, though all ended up leaning towards military service. Nonetheless, her curiosity eventually lead her to read up on her parents work in her teens. While it did not change her career choice, it profoundly effected the way she'd end up approaching military strategy and tactics, as it made her appreciation for the horrors of war more personal. Her determination and desire to escape secondary school as quickly as possible saw her get into Officer training for the Aerospace Force at 16 and her large wellspring of knowledge in addition to a quick mind and athleticism honed by training herself from childhood, she graduate a Second Lieutenant at 19 years old, in 2330.

Between 2330 and 2337, Erica proved herself not only a very capable pilot, but an excellent tactician, in addition to producing extensive strategic insight to every post she took. She took the knowledge she'd gained from years of historical study to become absolutely formidable in taking out terrorist and guerilla forces, taking bits of knowledge of military history beyond what she learned in officer schooling and matching them to modern technology and environments. Though she is a very able pilot with the Apollo-Class Superiority Fighter, racking up dozens of kills of space, air and planetary targets, what stood out most of about her was her ability to use Raven-Class Scout as an effective weapon. It's inadequacy in dog-fighting often nullified by her creative use of orbital mechanics to get an advantage in space combat, along with an aggressive usage of head-on engagements in atmospheric combat. Often times her insight and skill allowed successful deployment of forces that made battles of attrition unnecessary, preferring to checkmate the enemy to needing to annihilate them.

In 2337, during a off duty time while on a colony, she and a few superior officers were ambushed in a civilian zone that by were apparently relatives of the individuals that died during a recent attack on a terrorist outpost. They fended them off, but not before she was forced to kill the ring leader of the group to scare off the rest and protect an injured superior. Despite being rewarded medals for her conduct, Erica was left demoralized by the confrontation. All of the second guessing she had about being a soldier in her teens came flooding back. At one point she considered resigning, but after being convinced by her colleagues and encouraged by an early promotion to being a Major, she accepted the "compromise" of a transfer to the Valkyrie to be the leader of it's Recon Squadron.

Current List of significant awards and medals:
  • Aerospace Medal
  • Colonial Cross 1st Class
  • Colonial Star
  • Distinguished Aerospace Cross
  • Distinguished Service Medal
  • Good Conduct Medal
  • Joint Service Commendation Medal
  • Meritorious Service Medal for Pilots of the Terran Federation
  • Pilots Medal
  • Solar Cross
  • Voidsman Medal of Heroism

Enlistment Files

Current Service Branch: Aerospace Force

Current Rank: Major

Past Rank History:

  • Second Lieutenant (2330)
  • First Lieutenant (2331)
  • Captain (2334)

Service History: 2327-2338
Specialization: Fighter Pilot, Special Operations Pilot
Service Position aboard Ship: Leader of Raven-Class Reconnaissance Squadron.


Well laid out application. But I have to deny it in its current state due to the character being to unbelievable/too perfect.

The issues are the following and again its just grounding the character to fit the setting:

16 is too young for enlistment in any branch. Would have to be 17 minimum and it would not be into officers school. It would be into basic training, then screening to be accepted into basic flight, then combat pilot training/officers training etc. So she wouldn't be allowed to fly at minimum age of 18 which is incredibly rare. More likely she'd be given her wings and then commission as a Second Lieutenant around the age of 22-23. From then on her rank progression would be based on military standards which no amount of studying or treatise writing, which also is hard to believe by her having zero practical experience, would influence. Generally the average age of Major is around 33 years old. Generally the year you joined plus 10 years of service and getting selected for promotion each time. So if you want a Major, especially one who is getting promotions during peace time, you'd likely be your early thirties.

Its highly unlikely she'd get dozens and dozens of kills in peacetime. Even with proxy fighting and low intensity conflicts there is no real believability that she is just being an Ace of Aces like that. Also the whole 'brilliant tactician' thing is just a not-how-it-works and is a massive NS Armchair trope. In terms of Medals, my list was not what she would have but examples of medals that could be awarded. Below are medals that are more believable for a peacetime pilot to have:

Distinguished Aerospace Cross
Distinguished Service Medal
Good Conduct Medal
Meritorious Service Medal for Pilots of the Terran Federation


4 year program in 3 years and starting at 17 doesn't seem to be much of a stretch, though. I get the rest but isn't 20 to 21 fine?

33 years old major assumes being a second lieutenant at 23.

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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:10 pm

Revlona wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:
So, what about ranks?


Google is our best friend it seems. Also the US military.

The average time it takes the US military to achieve their ranks seems to line up with what the OP has been saying, 16 years lines up with Lt Col after a quick google.


So just copy paste American standards.

(Why is it always based off US standards in future Earth Sci-Fi?)
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
Well...we don't actually know. Just sort of happened one day.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Is it a race of cyborg neo-life at war with any assimilating organisms they come across in the far far future? Who knows, who cares?
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Postby Imperialisium » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:05 pm

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Revlona wrote:
Google is our best friend it seems. Also the US military.

The average time it takes the US military to achieve their ranks seems to line up with what the OP has been saying, 16 years lines up with Lt Col after a quick google.


So just copy paste American standards.

(Why is it always based off US standards in future Earth Sci-Fi?)


It’s due to most writers on here being Anglophones or familiar with NATO style systems. If I used Russian ranks it could be an unnecessarily confusing or babble to the majority of NS writers. It’s a concession for ease so to speak.
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:09 pm

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So just copy paste American standards.

(Why is it always based off US standards in future Earth Sci-Fi?)


It’s due to most writers on here being Anglophones or familiar with NATO style systems. If I used Russian ranks it could be an unnecessarily confusing or babble to the majority of NS writers. It’s a concession for ease so to speak.


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Postby Imperialisium » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:11 pm

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Well laid out application. But I have to deny it in its current state due to the character being to unbelievable/too perfect.

The issues are the following and again its just grounding the character to fit the setting:

16 is too young for enlistment in any branch. Would have to be 17 minimum and it would not be into officers school. It would be into basic training, then screening to be accepted into basic flight, then combat pilot training/officers training etc. So she wouldn't be allowed to fly at minimum age of 18 which is incredibly rare. More likely she'd be given her wings and then commission as a Second Lieutenant around the age of 22-23. From then on her rank progression would be based on military standards which no amount of studying or treatise writing, which also is hard to believe by her having zero practical experience, would influence. Generally the average age of Major is around 33 years old. Generally the year you joined plus 10 years of service and getting selected for promotion each time. So if you want a Major, especially one who is getting promotions during peace time, you'd likely be your early thirties.

Its highly unlikely she'd get dozens and dozens of kills in peacetime. Even with proxy fighting and low intensity conflicts there is no real believability that she is just being an Ace of Aces like that. Also the whole 'brilliant tactician' thing is just a not-how-it-works and is a massive NS Armchair trope. In terms of Medals, my list was not what she would have but examples of medals that could be awarded. Below are medals that are more believable for a peacetime pilot to have:

Distinguished Aerospace Cross
Distinguished Service Medal
Good Conduct Medal
Meritorious Service Medal for Pilots of the Terran Federation


4 year program in 3 years and starting at 17 doesn't seem to be much of a stretch, though. I get the rest but isn't 20 to 21 fine?

33 years old major assumes being a second lieutenant at 23.


It isn’t really fine due to it breaking all pretense of realism. Which, I don’t expect people to be 1:1 realistic. But also no one is so amazing as for the military to just drop 25% of their training program. Nobody. You could be the best in your class and somehow blind, deaf, and tasteless. You’re still going through the whole program. Only during times of war when the necessity to replace combat losses is so high do military forces abridge programs.
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Postby Cybernetic Socialist Republics » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:33 pm

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4 year program in 3 years and starting at 17 doesn't seem to be much of a stretch, though. I get the rest but isn't 20 to 21 fine?

33 years old major assumes being a second lieutenant at 23.


It isn’t really fine due to it breaking all pretense of realism. Which, I don’t expect people to be 1:1 realistic. But also no one is so amazing as for the military to just drop 25% of their training program. Nobody. You could be the best in your class and somehow blind, deaf, and tasteless. You’re still going through the whole program. Only during times of war when the necessity to replace combat losses is so high do military forces abridge programs.


It's not dropping 25% of training, lmao. Becoming an officer is essentially a bachelor of science + about 10 weeks of specific officer training. Throw in a year of pilot training and that's a little over 4 years if the bachelor is done in 3 year, which is by no means extreme. So 21 is entirely doable.

In fact seeing as there are a small portion people starting university at like 14-15, combined with enlistment age of 17 with parental consent, 18-19 is also technically possible.

but idk, maybe the minimums here are aged from what they are in reality. I'll age up it up if I have to.

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Postby Imperialisium » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:34 pm

Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:
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It isn’t really fine due to it breaking all pretense of realism. Which, I don’t expect people to be 1:1 realistic. But also no one is so amazing as for the military to just drop 25% of their training program. Nobody. You could be the best in your class and somehow blind, deaf, and tasteless. You’re still going through the whole program. Only during times of war when the necessity to replace combat losses is so high do military forces abridge programs.


It's not dropping 25% of training, lmao. Becoming an officer is essentially a bachelor of science + about 10 weeks of specific officer training. Throw in a year of pilot training and that's a little over 4 years if the bachelor is done in 3 year, which is by no means extreme. So 21 is entirely doable.

In fact seeing as there are a small portion people starting university at like 14-15, combined with enlistment age of 17 with parental consent, 18-19 is also technically possible.

but idk, maybe the minimums here are aged from what they are in reality. I'll age up it up if I have to.


The ages I'm using are reflective of reality. My whole point is to toss the extreme exceptionalism portions for a more grounded character profile that could be built up from.
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Postby Imperialisium » Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:16 pm

alright Takimani is on the roster with the correction.
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Postby Revlona » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:31 am

What do the flags/emblems of each faction look like?
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Postby Imperialisium » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:39 am

Revlona wrote:What do the flags/emblems of each faction look like?


The Federation flag is royal blue background with a superimposed ring of stars within a wreath, with a blue green circle to represent Earth and all the Colonized Star systems of the Federation. Its Emblems are generally of Earth and the various colonies. So some franchise similarities could be given to Battlestar Galactica's Twelve Colonies of Kobol were the various Federation planets and star systems are represented in a variety of ways to symbolize that the Federation is a *union* of these places and not in theory subservient to Earth as a master-subject dynamic. This extends to some Naval ships also bearing emblems of specific Federation planets on their hulls as part of efforts to show the in theory equal standing of Earth and the various Federation Colonies.

The Martian Flag is officially just a Mars Red flag with three black circles, one in the middle twice as large as the others, representing Mars and her moons. Its emblems are generally supplemented by either Red Planet or Red Star emblems which despite the government ideological parallels is not meant to be Communistic. Rather, those are symbols co-opted to represent Mars and the Martian people.

The Sirians fly a white background with black stripes similar to a Union Jack. Emblems are generally more militaristic with a White rayed rising sun on a black background or white star between two fasces symbols on a black background. The reasoning for the white sun is due to the color of their sun with the blackness representing space as a means to declare that they don't consider themselves Terran anymore.
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Postby Revlona » Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:10 pm

- Alpha Company
- Armored
- CO: Captain Gregory Jorgenson
Company HQ
- 2x T1E5 Main Battle Tanks
- 1x Supply Trucks
- 2x Light Tactical Vehicles
- 1x Supply Trucks
2x Armored Platoon
A Section
- 2x T1E5 Main Battle Tanks
B Section
- 2x T1E5 Main Battle Tanks

- Bravo Company
- Infantry
- CO: Major Alisa Winters
Company HQ
- 1x Command Squad
- 1x Light Tactical Vehicles
3x Rifle Platoons
-3x Squads
-9x Light Tactical Vehicles

- Charlie Company
- Infantry
- CO: Captain Avery Hickle
Company HQ
- 1x Command Squad
- 1x Light Tactical Vehicles
3x Rifle Platoons
-3x Squads
-9x Light Tactical Vehicles

- Delta Company
- Infantry
- CO: Captain Tyson Oriley
Company HQ
- 1x Command Squad
- 1x Light Tactical Vehicles
3x Rifle Platoons
-3x Squads
-9x Light Tactical Vehicles

- Echo Company
- Infantry
- CO: Captain Venessa Lacrosia
Company HQ
- 1x Command Squad
- 1x Light Tactical Vehicles
3x Rifle Platoons
-3x Squads
-9x Light Tactical Vehicles

- Delta Company
- Mechanized Infantry
- CO: Captain Tavi Azamar
Company HQ
- 1x Command Squad
- 1x IFV
2x Platoons
-3x Squads
-12x IFVs
Total Personnel: 574


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Postby Bolslania » Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:15 pm

Revlona wrote:
- Alpha Company
- Armored
- CO: Captain Gregory Jorgenson
Company HQ
- 2x T1E5 Main Battle Tanks
- 1x Supply Trucks
- 2x Light Tactical Vehicles
- 1x Supply Trucks
2x Armored Platoon
A Section
- 2x T1E5 Main Battle Tanks
B Section
- 2x T1E5 Main Battle Tanks

- Bravo Company
- Infantry
- CO: Major Alisa Winters
Company HQ
- 1x Command Squad
- 1x Light Tactical Vehicles
3x Rifle Platoons
-3x Squads
-9x Light Tactical Vehicles

- Charlie Company
- Infantry
- CO: Captain Avery Hickle
Company HQ
- 1x Command Squad
- 1x Light Tactical Vehicles
3x Rifle Platoons
-3x Squads
-9x Light Tactical Vehicles

- Delta Company
- Infantry
- CO: Captain Tyson Oriley
Company HQ
- 1x Command Squad
- 1x Light Tactical Vehicles
3x Rifle Platoons
-3x Squads
-9x Light Tactical Vehicles

- Echo Company
- Infantry
- CO: Captain Venessa Lacrosia
Company HQ
- 1x Command Squad
- 1x Light Tactical Vehicles
3x Rifle Platoons
-3x Squads
-9x Light Tactical Vehicles

- Delta Company
- Mechanized Infantry
- CO: Captain Tavi Azamar
Company HQ
- 1x Command Squad
- 1x IFV
2x Platoons
-3x Squads
-12x IFVs
Total Personnel: 574


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Postby Revlona » Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:17 pm

Bolslania wrote:
Revlona wrote:
- Alpha Company
- Armored
- CO: Captain Gregory Jorgenson
Company HQ
- 2x T1E5 Main Battle Tanks
- 1x Supply Trucks
- 2x Light Tactical Vehicles
- 1x Supply Trucks
2x Armored Platoon
A Section
- 2x T1E5 Main Battle Tanks
B Section
- 2x T1E5 Main Battle Tanks

- Bravo Company
- Infantry
- CO: Major Alisa Winters
Company HQ
- 1x Command Squad
- 1x Light Tactical Vehicles
3x Rifle Platoons
-3x Squads
-9x Light Tactical Vehicles

- Charlie Company
- Infantry
- CO: Captain Avery Hickle
Company HQ
- 1x Command Squad
- 1x Light Tactical Vehicles
3x Rifle Platoons
-3x Squads
-9x Light Tactical Vehicles

- Delta Company
- Infantry
- CO: Captain Tyson Oriley
Company HQ
- 1x Command Squad
- 1x Light Tactical Vehicles
3x Rifle Platoons
-3x Squads
-9x Light Tactical Vehicles

- Echo Company
- Infantry
- CO: Captain Venessa Lacrosia
Company HQ
- 1x Command Squad
- 1x Light Tactical Vehicles
3x Rifle Platoons
-3x Squads
-9x Light Tactical Vehicles

- Delta Company
- Mechanized Infantry
- CO: Captain Tavi Azamar
Company HQ
- 1x Command Squad
- 1x IFV
2x Platoons
-3x Squads
-12x IFVs
Total Personnel: 574


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We get tanks?


Don’t see why we wouldn’t, we have the transport capabilities
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:25 pm

Revlona wrote:
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We get tanks?


Don’t see why we wouldn’t, we have the transport capabilities


How would they get transported planet-side?
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Postby Revlona » Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:28 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Revlona wrote:
Don’t see why we wouldn’t, we have the transport capabilities


How would they get transported planet-side?


I was assuming the transports listed but now I’m not sure. Maybe need some OP clarification.
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