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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:12 am
by Cybernetic Socialist Republics
Free Ward Marchers wrote:Febarochi: Next question, what do you think is the biggest threat the U.S is facing right now and what will you do about it?


"As President Davis put it, the doctrine of the Soviet Union is nothing new, it is the doctrine of tyranny that this nation has always diligently struggled against. In that respect, tyranny has been and remains the main threat to these United States. Abroad, these forces are primarily represented by communism. Everywhere feasible, as we've engaged in Vietnam, we must confront it with military force. But despite what Representative Broussard insists, winning a war is about far more than simply wanting to win, we must ensure that domestically, we have build and secure capacity win. "

"Building and securing that capacity includes recognizing and fighting against those forces inside of our nation that advance the doctrine of tyranny and therefore undermine our fight against it domestically and ultimately abroad. While that includes communists, within our nation, the most common advocates of the doctrine of tyranny are those like Representative Broussard and those he supports, who's names he's already cited and I need not repeat, that believe that the rights of government stand above the rights of individuals, as his evidenced by his opposition to a poll tax abolition amendment that'd protect the individuals regardless of the government that they live under."

"Lastly, Representative Broussard, it is clear that your focus on colored folk is far greater than mine, as your hatred for them far exceeds your love of poor whites, who you know have their rights undermined by poll taxation, yet you refuse to accept action that'd relieve them from it."

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:48 am
by Louisianan
Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:
Free Ward Marchers wrote:Febarochi: Next question, what do you think is the biggest threat the U.S is facing right now and what will you do about it?


"As President Davis put it, the doctrine of the Soviet Union is nothing new, it is the doctrine of tyranny that this nation has always diligently struggled against. In that respect, tyranny has been and remains the main threat to these United States. Abroad, these forces are primarily represented by communism. Everywhere feasible, as we've engaged in Vietnam, we must confront it with military force. But despite what Representative Broussard insists, winning a war is about far more than simply wanting to win, we must ensure that domestically, we have build and secure capacity win. "

"Building and securing that capacity includes recognizing and fighting against those forces inside of our nation that advance the doctrine of tyranny and therefore undermine our fight against it domestically and ultimately abroad. While that includes communists, within our nation, the most common advocates of the doctrine of tyranny are those like Representative Broussard and those he supports, who's names he's already cited and I need not repeat, that believe that the rights of government stand above the rights of individuals, as his evidenced by his opposition to a poll tax abolition amendment that'd protect the individuals regardless of the government that they live under."

"Lastly, Representative Broussard, it is clear that your focus on colored folk is far greater than mine, as your hatred for them far exceeds your love of poor whites, who you know have their rights undermined by poll taxation, yet you refuse to accept action that'd relieve them from it."

Broussard begins laughing, uncontrollably,

"Say it with me folks! MY STATE ALREADY REPEALED THE POLL TAX WITH MY HELP! I ain't for the poll tax, and you sure weren't saying all this crap when I supported it wholeheartedly were you? Also, I don't hate blacks, never said I did, and never have I done anything to make folk think so, hell, I brought my mammy and her family up here from Mississippi! You are repeating yourself over and over again, without bringing new points to the table, it is honestly embarrassing, and I'm damn glad it's your husband running for President, and not you!"

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:39 am
by Cybernetic Socialist Republics
Louisianan wrote:
Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:
"As President Davis put it, the doctrine of the Soviet Union is nothing new, it is the doctrine of tyranny that this nation has always diligently struggled against. In that respect, tyranny has been and remains the main threat to these United States. Abroad, these forces are primarily represented by communism. Everywhere feasible, as we've engaged in Vietnam, we must confront it with military force. But despite what Representative Broussard insists, winning a war is about far more than simply wanting to win, we must ensure that domestically, we have build and secure capacity win. "

"Building and securing that capacity includes recognizing and fighting against those forces inside of our nation that advance the doctrine of tyranny and therefore undermine our fight against it domestically and ultimately abroad. While that includes communists, within our nation, the most common advocates of the doctrine of tyranny are those like Representative Broussard and those he supports, who's names he's already cited and I need not repeat, that believe that the rights of government stand above the rights of individuals, as his evidenced by his opposition to a poll tax abolition amendment that'd protect the individuals regardless of the government that they live under."

"Lastly, Representative Broussard, it is clear that your focus on colored folk is far greater than mine, as your hatred for them far exceeds your love of poor whites, who you know have their rights undermined by poll taxation, yet you refuse to accept action that'd relieve them from it."



"Say it with me folks! MY STATE ALREADY REPEALED THE POLL TAX WITH MY HELP! I ain't for the poll tax, and you sure weren't saying all this crap when I supported it wholeheartedly were you? Also, I don't hate blacks, never said I did, and never have I done anything to make folk think so, hell, I brought my mammy and her family up here from Mississippi! You are repeating yourself over and over again, without bringing new points to the table, it is honestly embarrassing, and I'm damn glad it's your husband running for President, and not you!"



"Representative Broussard, this debate was never about the repeal of a poll taxes in Louisiana a quarter of a century ago, but the abolition of taxation nationwide, which you clearly oppose. Which is why I keep going back to this, because you keep denying that is your position. The overwhelming majority of American people know this as they a degree intelligence far above what you present, though as this debate goes onward, it appears that this goes far deeper than a simple presentation."

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:46 am
by Free Ward Marchers
Febarochi: Next question, crime currently is on the rise especially in heavily populated southern area's. How would you prevent the crime rates from rising any more than they already have?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:48 am
by Louisianan
Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:
Louisianan wrote:

"Say it with me folks! MY STATE ALREADY REPEALED THE POLL TAX WITH MY HELP! I ain't for the poll tax, and you sure weren't saying all this crap when I supported it wholeheartedly were you? Also, I don't hate blacks, never said I did, and never have I done anything to make folk think so, hell, I brought my mammy and her family up here from Mississippi! You are repeating yourself over and over again, without bringing new points to the table, it is honestly embarrassing, and I'm damn glad it's your husband running for President, and not you!"



"Representative Broussard, this debate was never about the repeal of a poll taxes in Louisiana a quarter of a century ago, but the abolition of taxation nationwide, which you clearly oppose. Which is why I keep going back to this, because you keep denying that is your position. The overwhelming majority of American people know this as they a degree intelligence far above what you present, though as this debate goes onward, it appears that this goes far deeper than a simple presentation."

"You heard it here folks, a woman with an attitude and sense of intellect that is greater than thou, from a woman so deep in the establishment and a woman who is an elite, who loves the Federal Governments interference. I oppose Federal Governments interfering in state decisions. If Louisiana state government can repeal the tax, then so can any other state, without needing the Government assistance."

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:59 am
by Cybernetic Socialist Republics
Louisianan wrote:
Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:

"Representative Broussard, this debate was never about the repeal of a poll taxes in Louisiana a quarter of a century ago, but the abolition of taxation nationwide, which you clearly oppose. Which is why I keep going back to this, because you keep denying that is your position. The overwhelming majority of American people know this as they a degree intelligence far above what you present, though as this debate goes onward, it appears that this goes far deeper than a simple presentation."

"You heard it here folks, a woman with an attitude and sense of intellect that is greater than thou, from a woman so deep in the establishment and a woman who is an elite, who loves the Federal Governments interference. I oppose Federal Governments interfering in state decisions. If Louisiana state government can repeal the tax, then so can any other state, without needing the Government assistance."


"Representative Broussard, you believe there should be no institution capable of protecting individual rights from state governments, because you don't believe in the primacy of individual rights that this nation was founded on. It is not simply that I am greater than thou, Representative Broussard, it's that the overwhelming majority of the American people are."

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:03 am
by Free Ward Marchers
Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:
Louisianan wrote:"You heard it here folks, a woman with an attitude and sense of intellect that is greater than thou, from a woman so deep in the establishment and a woman who is an elite, who loves the Federal Governments interference. I oppose Federal Governments interfering in state decisions. If Louisiana state government can repeal the tax, then so can any other state, without needing the Government assistance."


"Representative Broussard, you believe there should be no institution capable of protecting individual rights from state governments, because you don't believe in the primacy of individual rights that this nation was founded on. It is not simply that I am thou, Representative Broussard, it's that the overwhelming majority of the American people are."


Febaroci presses a buzzer
"Debaters, we are done with the responding section please answer the question that was asked. Incase you didn't hear the question I will repeat it:
Crime currently is on the rise especially in heavily populated southern area's. How would you prevent the crime rates from rising any more than they already have?"

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:14 am
by Louisianan
Free Ward Marchers wrote:Febarochi: Next question, crime currently is on the rise especially in heavily populated southern area's. How would you prevent the crime rates from rising any more than they already have?

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"Well, I'd just like to tell Mrs. Fraser that she is a governor's wife, she is above the common people of New York, and that is simply the truth, I am a mere Representative, who still works in the fields, who still does community work. Now, in response to your question, I can say that crime in heavily populated southern areas like Atlanta, Georgia, and many other communities are mostly coming from the Negro population. Studies show this, police records show this, and so do the little films that are taken in these areas. To stop crime, we need to beef up the police force, make sure that they can protect the women and children of our nation properly."

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:46 pm
by Cybernetic Socialist Republics
Free Ward Marchers wrote:Febarochi: Next question, crime currently is on the rise especially in heavily populated southern area's. How would you prevent the crime rates from rising any more than they already have?


"As I said with lynching, the cause of most crime, is the strength of an individual's moral fiber versus the forces of poverty. A government is best served by focusing on the poverty aspect. Not only material poverty, but the poverty that comes from a feeling of detachment from the society one lives in."

"There exists a real animosity that many good and moral people in the south feel for the north. I grew up knowing this reality. I simply ask those who feel this way to consider that for all the mistreatment that the north has visited upon the south, it did not keep southern whites ancestors and decedents as slaves for generation after generation, nore spend 100 years after denying their humanity, their right to vote or terrorizing them with lynching."

"If the grievance of the southern white against the north is legitimate, so is the grievance of colored, north or south. If the poverty of the southern white can be traced to his treatment by the northern white, the poverty of the colored can be traced to his mistreatment by the white, north or south. It just happens to be the case that in the south, that voting rights of coloreds are significantly more suppressed than they are in the north, because there exists a particularly vile strain of tyranny that goes as far as disenfranchising poor whites. A tyranny that Representative Broussard is allied with in his refusal to support the national abolition of poll taxation."

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:57 pm
by Louisianan
Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:
Free Ward Marchers wrote:Febarochi: Next question, crime currently is on the rise especially in heavily populated southern area's. How would you prevent the crime rates from rising any more than they already have?


"As I said with lynching, the cause of most crime, is the strength of an individual's moral fiber versus the forces of poverty. A government is best served by focusing on the poverty aspect. Not only material poverty, but the poverty that comes from a feeling of detachment from the society one lives in."

"There exists a real animosity that many good and moral people in the south feel for the north. I grew up knowing this reality. I simply ask those who feel this way to consider that for all the mistreatment that the north has visited upon the south, it did not keep southern whites ancestors and decedents as slaves for generation after generation, nore spend 100 years after denying their humanity, their right to vote or terrorizing them with lynching."

"If the grievance of the southern white against the north is legitimate, so is the grievance of colored, north or south. If the poverty of the southern white can be traced to his treatment by the northern white, the poverty of the colored can be traced to his mistreatment by the white, north or south. It just happens to be the case that in the south, that voting rights of coloreds are significantly more suppressed than they are in the north, because there exists a particularly vile strain of tyranny that goes as far as disenfranchising poor whites. A tyranny that Representative Broussard is allied with in his refusal to support the national abolition of poll taxation."

"I'm not going to continue to respond to the same allegations that you continue to spread about me after I've already refuted them, you make no sense, and I think this is why we have so few women Senators. Not because they don't deserve the job, but because they can't make a proper argument without hopping on the same train over and over again trying to derail it. I support states, I trust state legislatures, Louisiana banned the tax, so why can't the Mississippi or Alabama state legislatures decide to repeal it? Please answer this question, do you trust citizens? If so, then why don't you trust their duly elected state legislators to ban a tax that they don't like? You continue to defame and disgrace my name with allegations that I don't support my constituents, and it is false! I supported banning the poll tax at the state level, and we did, therefore my support for my constituents has been shown. Stop playing little games, and provide a proper argument, because the people in our audience are getting pretty sick and tired of you going on and on and on and on and on, and are tired of hearing me repeat and repeat and repeat my same answers.""

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:05 pm
by Cybernetic Socialist Republics
Louisianan wrote:
Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:
"As I said with lynching, the cause of most crime, is the strength of an individual's moral fiber versus the forces of poverty. A government is best served by focusing on the poverty aspect. Not only material poverty, but the poverty that comes from a feeling of detachment from the society one lives in."

"There exists a real animosity that many good and moral people in the south feel for the north. I grew up knowing this reality. I simply ask those who feel this way to consider that for all the mistreatment that the north has visited upon the south, it did not keep southern whites ancestors and decedents as slaves for generation after generation, nore spend 100 years after denying their humanity, their right to vote or terrorizing them with lynching."

"If the grievance of the southern white against the north is legitimate, so is the grievance of colored, north or south. If the poverty of the southern white can be traced to his treatment by the northern white, the poverty of the colored can be traced to his mistreatment by the white, north or south. It just happens to be the case that in the south, that voting rights of coloreds are significantly more suppressed than they are in the north, because there exists a particularly vile strain of tyranny that goes as far as disenfranchising poor whites. A tyranny that Representative Broussard is allied with in his refusal to support the national abolition of poll taxation."

"I'm not going to continue to respond to the same allegations that you continue to spread about me after I've already refuted them, you make no sense, and I think this is why we have so few women Senators. Not because they don't deserve the job, but because they can't make a proper argument without hopping on the same train over and over again trying to derail it. I support states, I trust state legislatures, Louisiana banned the tax, so why can't the Mississippi or Alabama state legislatures decide to repeal it? Please answer this question, do you trust citizens? If so, then why don't you trust their duly elected state legislators to ban a tax that they don't like? You continue to defame and disgrace my name with allegations that I don't support my constituents, and it is false! I supported banning the poll tax at the state level, and we did, therefore my support for my constituents has been shown. Stop playing little games, and provide a proper argument, because the people in our audience are getting pretty sick and tired of you going on and on and on and on and on, and are tired of hearing me repeat and repeat and repeat my same answers.""



"You won't even trust a federal government that you have a direct say in to regulate the actions of states, what rube would an trust that an institution that actively see's to disenfranchise poor whites to protect their power through poll taxation would do well by them?"

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:07 pm
by Louisianan
Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:
Louisianan wrote:"I'm not going to continue to respond to the same allegations that you continue to spread about me after I've already refuted them, you make no sense, and I think this is why we have so few women Senators. Not because they don't deserve the job, but because they can't make a proper argument without hopping on the same train over and over again trying to derail it. I support states, I trust state legislatures, Louisiana banned the tax, so why can't the Mississippi or Alabama state legislatures decide to repeal it? Please answer this question, do you trust citizens? If so, then why don't you trust their duly elected state legislators to ban a tax that they don't like? You continue to defame and disgrace my name with allegations that I don't support my constituents, and it is false! I supported banning the poll tax at the state level, and we did, therefore my support for my constituents has been shown. Stop playing little games, and provide a proper argument, because the people in our audience are getting pretty sick and tired of you going on and on and on and on and on, and are tired of hearing me repeat and repeat and repeat my same answers.""



"You won't even trust a federal government that you have a direct say in to regulate the actions of states, what rube would an trust that an institution that actively see's to disenfranchise poor whites to protect their power through poll taxation would do well by them?"

"You didn't answer my question, do you trust citizens and their choice of state legislators? Careful how you answer, your husband's Presidential campaign may suffer."

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:27 pm
by Cybernetic Socialist Republics
Louisianan wrote:
Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:

"You won't even trust a federal government that you have a direct say in to regulate the actions of states, what rube would an trust that an institution that actively see's to disenfranchise poor whites to protect their power through poll taxation would do well by them?"

"You didn't answer my question, do you trust citizens and their choice of state legislators? Careful how you answer, your husband's Presidential campaign may suffer."


"I trust the citizens, which is why I support national abolition of poll taxes. You don't, that's why you oppose national abolition of poll taxes. These state legislators are quite literally not their choice until all those the constitution promises the right to vote, are the ones that select them."

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:28 pm
by Free Ward Marchers
Febarochi: Last question, Has your view or outlook of anything changed since the start of this debate and do you think it was productive?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:43 pm
by Louisianan
Free Ward Marchers wrote:Febarochi: Last question, Has your view or outlook of anything changed since the start of this debate and do you think it was productive?

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"In all honesty, no, I don't think it was productive, because at every turn this woman has refused to speak about the real issues without bringing up an already refuted claim that she makes against me. She just did it again, I will say it one more time, as clear as crystal, I support the State's right to abolish poll taxes, I do not support giving the Federal Governments more power than they already have, that is my job as a populist, and as a speaker of my people, my people of Louisiana who don't pay a poll tax. I will say that I walked into this room respecting the Senator, but I will walk out of it in disgust, simply due to the fact that it is clear that she does not wish to have a professional relationship, and plus she refuses to acknowledge that she is a member of the elitist's, as well as the fact that she is ashamed of the people who live here, even in her home town, she is ashamed of the 'Dixiecrats' that she and her husband supposedly are going on a crusade against."

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:14 pm
by Cybernetic Socialist Republics
Free Ward Marchers wrote:Febarochi: Last question, Has your view or outlook of anything changed since the start of this debate and do you think it was productive?


"I think this debate was productive, because it reveals the emptiness behind opposition to the poll tax abolition amendment and the individuals and groups, inside and outside of politics, that these forces align with. Representative Broussard openly admits that the poll tax is against the white poor, yet believes that it should be up to the institutions that work disenfranchise the white poor, to choose when they are owed their rights. Representative Broussard uses the fact that his state eventually ended poll taxation, as an defense against not banning it federally. His position is that the unrepresented should be at the mercy of those that government them without their consent, as to when they receive rights. "

"Representative Broussard, the British eventually gave Canada a representative government, but our nation was not founded on waiting for the deference of a government we had no representation in. Broussard opposes the very notion the federal government, of which he has a say in, regulating the decisions of states through the constitution, but expects us to consider legitimate, the regulation by states that disenfranchise those they govern. The position of the Fraser campaign, is that the legitimacy of all governments, federal, state and local, is derived from free selection of representatives by those our constitution, ratified by our states, have promised the right to vote. The ultimate respect for state sovereignty, is the enforcement of the constitution our states agreed upon. Since our founding, our ultimate means of enforcement has been the federal government."

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:33 pm
by Louisianan
Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:
Free Ward Marchers wrote:Febarochi: Last question, Has your view or outlook of anything changed since the start of this debate and do you think it was productive?


"I think this debate was productive, because it reveals the emptiness behind opposition to the poll tax abolition amendment and the individuals and groups, inside and outside of politics, that these forces align with. Representative Broussard openly admits that the poll tax is against the white poor, yet believes that it should be up to the institutions that work disenfranchise the white poor, to choose when they are owed their rights. Representative Broussard uses the fact that his state eventually ended poll taxation, as an defense against not banning it federally. His position is that the unrepresented should be at the mercy of those that government them without their consent, as to when they receive rights. "

"Representative Broussard, the British eventually gave Canada a representative government, but our nation was not founded on waiting for the deference of a government we had no representation in. Broussard opposes the very notion the federal government, of which he has a say in, regulating the decisions of states through the constitution, but expects us to consider legitimate, the regulation by states that disenfranchise those they govern. The position of the Fraser campaign, is that the legitimacy of all governments, federal, state and local, is derived from free selection of representatives by those our constitution, ratified by our states, have promised the right to vote. The ultimate respect for state sovereignty, is the enforcement of the constitution our states agreed upon. Since our founding, our ultimate means of enforcement has been the federal government."

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"The Poll Tax is a bad thing, I am agreeing there, but I disagree with you on your saying that the Federal Government has a right to overpower the State Governments. In the constitution, it says, 'We the People' and citizens of each state are the people and it is a fact that citizens have a more direct say in their state governments than they do in the Federal Government."

"The banning of the poll tax on a federal level would not be a decision based upon the wishes of the citizens. Like I told Representative Douglas, it is true that two-thirds of the states must ratify the amendment, but currently, MORE than two-thirds of the states do not have a poll tax, therefore, it would be unfair to the citizens and legislators of the states that DO have a poll tax. If you want to talk about silence, then why don't you remake this amendment, why don't we pass it, and why don't we watch as every other state in the union silences the wants and wishes of the Poll Tax states who may refuse to ratify it."

"Whether the minority of Poll Tax states ratify it or not, the Amendment would automatically have to be recognized because those states are not needed to get a two-thirds majority. I live in Louisiana, therefore, I don't understand the needs of states like New York. It is abhorrently clear to me that Senator Fraser wants each state to lose its independence in matters like this, simply because she doesn't understand the wants and needs of the folks of Alabama, but yet she wants to force them to follow the same rules as New York. This is wrong, each state knows its own people better than anyone else but the lord up above. Had a Senator from Alabama, joined by a Senator from Mississippi and the other poll tax states, decided to write this amendment, then that's another story, but a woman who lives in the Big Apple doesn't know jack diddly about the Big Easy, or other southern cities."

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:08 pm
by Free Ward Marchers
Febarochi: Thank you Represenative Broussard and Senator Fraser, that concludes today's debate. I'm Seth Febarochi thank you for listening.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:30 pm
by Cybernetic Socialist Republics
Louisianan wrote:
Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:
"I think this debate was productive, because it reveals the emptiness behind opposition to the poll tax abolition amendment and the individuals and groups, inside and outside of politics, that these forces align with. Representative Broussard openly admits that the poll tax is against the white poor, yet believes that it should be up to the institutions that work disenfranchise the white poor, to choose when they are owed their rights. Representative Broussard uses the fact that his state eventually ended poll taxation, as an defense against not banning it federally. His position is that the unrepresented should be at the mercy of those that government them without their consent, as to when they receive rights. "

"Representative Broussard, the British eventually gave Canada a representative government, but our nation was not founded on waiting for the deference of a government we had no representation in. Broussard opposes the very notion the federal government, of which he has a say in, regulating the decisions of states through the constitution, but expects us to consider legitimate, the regulation by states that disenfranchise those they govern. The position of the Fraser campaign, is that the legitimacy of all governments, federal, state and local, is derived from free selection of representatives by those our constitution, ratified by our states, have promised the right to vote. The ultimate respect for state sovereignty, is the enforcement of the constitution our states agreed upon. Since our founding, our ultimate means of enforcement has been the federal government."

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"The Poll Tax is a bad thing, I am agreeing there, but I disagree with you on your saying that the Federal Government has a right to overpower the State Governments. In the constitution, it says, 'We the People' and citizens of each state are the people and it is a fact that citizens have a more direct say in their state governments than they do in the Federal Government."

"The banning of the poll tax on a federal level would not be a decision based upon the wishes of the citizens. Like I told Representative Douglas, it is true that two-thirds of the states must ratify the amendment, but currently, MORE than two-thirds of the states do not have a poll tax, therefore, it would be unfair to the citizens and legislators of the states that DO have a poll tax. If you want to talk about silence, then why don't you remake this amendment, why don't we pass it, and why don't we watch as every other state in the union silences the wants and wishes of the Poll Tax states who may refuse to ratify it."

"Whether the minority of Poll Tax states ratify it or not, the Amendment would automatically have to be recognized because those states are not needed to get a two-thirds majority. I live in Louisiana, therefore, I don't understand the needs of states like New York. It is abhorrently clear to me that Senator Fraser wants each state to lose its independence in matters like this, simply because she doesn't understand the wants and needs of the folks of Alabama, but yet she wants to force them to follow the same rules as New York. This is wrong, each state knows its own people better than anyone else but the lord up above. Had a Senator from Alabama, joined by a Senator from Mississippi and the other poll tax states, decided to write this amendment, then that's another story, but a woman who lives in the Big Apple doesn't know jack diddly about the Big Easy, or other southern cities."


"The constitution establishes the Supreme Court as the final arbitrators of law, it's judges are nominated by the president and approved by the senate, all federal. Never-mind Article six which, specifically establishes federal laws as the supreme law of the land. I simply mentioned the supreme court first, as I question Broussard's familiarity with the constitution."

"As long as the poll taxation exists and it abridges the constitutionally promised right to vote, it is impossible to tell what the citizens of states with poll taxes actually think. Ensuring that states with poll taxes have them abolished against the wishes of legislators that don't represent their citizens because of said poll taxes, is not unfair. What's unfair is sharing a federal government with individuals who are not accountable to an electorate that matches that which our constitution, which was ratified by the states in exchange in which they sacrificed sovereignty for the benefit of a union that follows the constitution it agreed upon."

"It's irrelevant to this issue that you as a Louisianan do not know what is best for the state of New York. By opposing the abolition of poll taxation, you are clearly standing in opposition to the agreement that was made when the states in came together in a union, and that agreement includes the free participation of the citizens that the constitution promises the right to vote, in the process of selecting representatives at all levels of government."

"Poll Taxes are simply a loophole that unscrupulous governments have used to sidestep the constitution. Side stepping the constitution, represents a de-facto, local repeal of parts of the constitution, that happens outside of the legitimate constitution amending process. The Poll Tax abolition amendment, wouldn't have taken sovereignty from states, but closed a loophole in an agreement already made by the states, a loophole that undermines state's sovereignty by cheating them out of the proper enforcement of a constitution they agreed upon following."

"With Broussard's rubbish disposed in less time than it took for it to be dumped, let me make a few more statements. America stands at a crossroads, as this decade draws to an end and we head into the 1960s. On one hand, we have forces that represents the ugly unthinking features of our past, as represented by the likes of Broussard and his political allies, many of which only hold their positions through the mass disenfranchisement of whites, never-mind non-whites, when our constitution promises them the vote. Then the other side, the Tom Fraser Presidential campaign, which is forward lookin, and seeks to build on our most glorious triumphs and repair our greatest weaknesses and bring Americans of every color, creed, race, class and region, together."

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 4:02 pm
by Louisianan
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
February 18th, 1959

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Good evening and welcome. I am Sal Vincenti, I will be moderating tonight's debate, welcome viewers to today's debate between Senators, Sofia Fraser, and Joshua Sharp. The rules for tonight's debate are as follows: I will be posing questions to both participants, each person will have 3 minutes to answer and up to 5 minutes to respond to their opponent's answer. Outside notes and materials are not allowed, though both participants have been provided with a notepad and a pen which allows them to make notes while at the podium.

Now please, welcome the participants.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 4:11 pm
by Newne Carriebean7
Senator Joshua Sharp clenches his teeth momentarily and mutters something inaudible to a nearby passerby before emerging from the back and onto the stage, squinting at the large and radiating studio lights in irritation before they adjusted to the difference in brightness. He forces a smile out to the crowd, giving a thumbs up to someone in the crowd before shaking the moderator's hand and going to his podium.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 4:47 pm
by Cybernetic Socialist Republics
Senator Sofia Fraser heads in from backstage, giving a friendly smile and a wave at the crowd, conscious but confident in her stride, before making her way to the podium.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 4:59 pm
by Louisianan
Vincenti: I'd first like to thank the Kate Shelly's Daughters Foundation for sponsoring this debate, and I begin the debate, with my first question. Recently, there have been various major bills discussed and proposed in the House and Senate, what are your current priorities in Congress at the moment?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:18 pm
by Newne Carriebean7
Senator Joshua Sharp freezes momentarily on stage before coming back with a hasty blink and widened pupils in his eyes. Briefly shaking his head, he puts his finger to his chin and scratches at it for a moment.

"Pry or itees? Y'all mean what n' the hell we're actually doin' rather than sittin' ons our asses all the live-long day? Y'all mean actual senate work on 'slation n' shit like that? Well, I'm pleased to say that bipartisanship with Senator Joe Pole of this very state enabled the passage of the Peace Corp Act, an Act which I campaigned for happily in the Senate in tryin' t' convince folks like Hue-sorry, Earl in te Senate t' votes his ass fer its. Currently, I'm workin' with this here lady-pal from New York on a bill that'll slowly git rid of the state's minimum wage. I mean slowly 'cause it don't make no sense to rip off it right-way. Legislation wise, I'm focused on defendin' the rights of the poor man n' shit like that. Besides that I intend to hold this administration accountable, the Davis 'stration, mind y'all, for crimes it may or may'vent not never maybe committed whilst holdin' a bible and sayin' I do! There are some bad apples Dave's associated himself with, the news in 'nam's only the latest proof. It's vindication for the crazy guy in the desert sayin' it's gonna rain when it hadn't rained for nearly fidy years. Vindication babee!"

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:44 pm
by Cybernetic Socialist Republics
Senator Sofia Fraser begins speaking, largely ignoring Sharp's ramblings:


"Finding ways that the congress can work to accomplish the goals set out by President Davis in his state of the union is, unsurprisingly, a strong priority of mine as a Senator. While I and others have projects that go beyond what the president outlined in his speech, we still want to take his agenda, being as he has mandate from a larger whole of the American people than any one congress person, our first priority. This means that this congress will engage in projects including, but not limited to:

Working to find ways to adjust our system of taxes and benefits to encourage Americans to work and be financially active and responsible. Give the President to right to approve or veto specific parts in budget appropriations to cut waste and graft that makes it passed law. Reduce the role of government where the private sector is more effective, not out of some narrow ideological crusade, but for the sake of maximizing the efficiency of the government and ensuring that it can focuses on what it does best. Increase efficiencies in how federal credit is provided. Find efficiencies in agricultural subsidies to ensure that we encourage efficiency rather than stagnation. Find ways to deal with the agricultural surplus we have and reform our system of subsidies to ensure the agricultural industry is guided by consumers interacting with producers, first and foremost. Amend the Employment Act of 1946 to ensure the that federal government can take necessary action to protect the value of the dollar. Reform regulations on unions to curb the potential for corruption and ensure that the interests of workers and the public are effectively synthesized. This includes working to protect union funds from misuse to ensure that union leadership is representing their members rather than themselves.

Lastly, though certainly not least, despite the obstructionism of the likes of sharp and the backwards minded, work to tackle discrimination on the basis of race, gender or creed by ensuring that merit is the deciding factory in the success and failure of individuals. This includes ensuring that all citizens have a practical opportunity to receive the best possible education and generally be treated fairly by the government and in public life. This is includes, very crucially, protecting the the right to vote as outlined in our constitution, against enemies of the constitution who work to undermine that which has already been agreed upon by the states in the ratification of our constitution. No apologies for the language, if you are an enemy of the enforcement of our constitution, you are an enemy of the constitution, as the constitution without enforcement is words on a piece of parchment."