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Postby Louisianan » Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:12 pm

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Louisianan wrote:"So recently, I've seen you announce your campaign for the House of Representatives, how's that going for you?" Henry asked as he pushed the cigar box towards Brown,

"It's been alright so far, but mind you I've only just begun.", James said, reaching for a cigar.

"That is true...very true." Henry nodded in agreement, "I'm curious, what made you decide to join the Democratic party instead of the Republican Party? After all, we have been working tirelessly against them on the issue of Civil Rights."
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Postby Deblar » Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:21 pm

Louisianan wrote:
Deblar wrote:"It's been alright so far, but mind you I've only just begun.", James said, reaching for a cigar.

"That is true...very true." Henry nodded in agreement, "I'm curious, what made you decide to join the Democratic party instead of the Republican Party? After all, we have been working tirelessly against them on the issue of Civil Rights."

"Well, I thought someone as progressive as myself wouldn't be well liked in that party, but in the end, Civil Rights extend beyond party lines. Also, I thought of being an independent, but I never would've gotten anything done without the resources of a major party."
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Postby Louisianan » Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:24 pm

Deblar wrote:
Louisianan wrote:"That is true...very true." Henry nodded in agreement, "I'm curious, what made you decide to join the Democratic party instead of the Republican Party? After all, we have been working tirelessly against them on the issue of Civil Rights."

"Well, I thought someone as progressive as myself wouldn't be well liked in that party, but in the end, Civil Rights extend beyond party lines. Also, I thought of being an independent, but I never would've gotten anything done without the resources of a major party."

"That's understandable," Davis said with a sigh, "We are the Party of Lincoln, and the Democrats from the North are trying to take that away from us, and make that title their own, while the Southern Democrats are trying to kill us altogether. Boy, oh boy, what a world we live in eh?"
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Postby Deblar » Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:28 pm

Louisianan wrote:
Deblar wrote:"Well, I thought someone as progressive as myself wouldn't be well liked in that party, but in the end, Civil Rights extend beyond party lines. Also, I thought of being an independent, but I never would've gotten anything done without the resources of a major party."

"That's understandable," Davis said with a sigh, "We are the Party of Lincoln, and the Democrats from the North are trying to take that away from us, and make that title their own, while the Southern Democrats are trying to kill us altogether. Boy, oh boy, what a world we live in eh?"

James laughed, then took a puff of his cigar. "If Cora finds out about this, she'll kill me.", James said, pointing to his cigar.
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Postby Louisianan » Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:36 pm

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Louisianan wrote:"That's understandable," Davis said with a sigh, "We are the Party of Lincoln, and the Democrats from the North are trying to take that away from us, and make that title their own, while the Southern Democrats are trying to kill us altogether. Boy, oh boy, what a world we live in eh?"

James laughed, then took a puff of his cigar. "If Cora finds out about this, she'll kill me.", James said, pointing to his cigar.

"Oh, no!" Henry laughed, "I'll give you a presidential pardon for any punishment she dishes out. Anyway, the reason I called you here was to figure out, and understand, how my administration, and my party, can continue to serve the colored population of our country. So now I ask you, what have we done right, and what have we done wrong. Nothing is off-limits here so just lay it on me, as the teeny boppers say."
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Newne Carriebean7 wrote:Senator Sharp's Office, Capitol Hill




"What's your take on all this, I've been chatin' yer ear off, so speak openly, unless you're an asshole."

With that, Johsua Sharp leaned back in his senate seat, eager to hear the response of the Majority Whip from Tennessee.
Earl was initially glad that his simple investment of whiskey had paid off, all smiles and nods as the Senator with the mouth of a sailor spouted off about God knows what. He was forced to chuckle affably at the Mississippian's lowbrow joke, privately wondering just how long the old bastard would rant, but was spirited when Sharp cut straight to business— even if the business managed to be needlessly lengthy. He listened raptly, trying to translate six layers of backwoods ignorance into anything that smacked of sense, and managed it here and there.

"If I understand you correctly," Boone said carefully, "you mean to convince Mississippi's delegates to vote for me at the convention, or if not me, for yourself, to prevent a"— Earl was about to say liberal— "communist from snatching the nomination. All without giving up your Senate seat." He looked Sharp in the eye. "Mr. Sharp, I think that's an excellent plan."
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Postby Madrinpoor » Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:21 pm

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Madrinpoor wrote:"Sir, you see, there is a conflict with Republicans being on the front lines of the Civil Rights movement. Many of the most influential Civil Rights leaders, such as Mr King and Mr...X, I suppose, Mr Malcolm X, who are known for being advocates for Civil Rights, they are not conservatives nor are they Republicans. That is because they, like me, do not see the Republican party as a boon to their standing, because conservatives are not often known for being on the front lines of change. Also sir, I am not just economically liberal, I am socially liberal as well. I am just opposed to the Dixiecrats and other racists in my current party. I understand your influence, and the influence of the Republican party, but many of my constituents are very likely to support the Democrats in down-ballot races, as are other Latinos from the rest of the Southwest. In order for you to do better among minorities, you must win the support of the leaders, which you have not done as of now. Then support will trickle down, but you must first show your willingness to provide positive change."

"Willingness to provide change?" Henry began to laugh, "Son, I sent National Guard troops to let a few kids into a school. I said in my New Years address that we have to work towards civil rights, look at Senator Stark for instance, he came to my office and we sat here and we had a nice chat and he told me that he wanted to make sure that Republicans are on the frontlines when it comes to civil rights. Senator Boone probably agrees with Senator Sharp that de-segregation is as unlawful as segregation, if not more!"

"And these are people in your party! I'm having Chairman James Brown Jr. come into this office and sit in that same chair, and he is the Chairman of the National Negro Rights Coalition. Senator Boone would shoot the man before letting him on White House grounds. Mr. Matamoros, change is coming, for your people, and I can assure you, but as long as congress is controlled by Democrats, you won't be seeing change. The election is coming soon, and I can almost say with full certainty that no matter the Republican Nominee, they will support Civil Rights, and continue righting our many years of wrongs as a nation. Civil Rights isn't a partisan issue, it's an American issue, but we Republicans seem to be the only people doing anything about it, and yet we get little to no credit. Don't you see the issue here, Mr. Matomoros?"

Juan pondered this.

"Yes sir I do see an issue. I see that many in my party do not support urgent change, but I do not believe all do. I would like to see something sir. I will propose a bill, one that supports equal rights for all minorities including Asians, Blacks, Hispanics, etc. It will ensure the elimination of poll taxes and other suppressive measures too often deployed on minorities. It will also give minorities a small edge over non-minorities in college picks, to compensate for segregated and poor schooling, as a part of the idea of affirmative action, as well as other measures. I will see who supports it, and if you support it, and the amount of Republicans you say would support something like this, then I will be very open to switching my party affiliation. But I must see first who actually supports Hispanics, and who is all talk."
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Postby Newne Carriebean7 » Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:24 pm

Senator Sharp's Office, Capitol Hill


Sharp took another lengthy sip of the booze, nodding affirmatively at the Tennessee senator.
"Thank you, Majority Whip Boone. I'll have them handily back you at the convention if you're short. I'm that kind of friend. I'll treat you like I treat my home state, or how you treat your goddamned grandmother. I hope you treated your grandma with kindness and love. If not, then I'd question your dedication to this plan."

He briefly stopped speaking eyes raised momentarily at Boone before returning to a genial, if southernly yokel like mood.

"If y'all just need a few more to carry yourself over the top to cinch the nomination away from a senagambian colored DINO, I can make a few arrangements. But if just me adding more would only mean more 'flies on the pile of cow shit' as they say in Mississippi, then I'd gladly have them give me the historical satisfaction of another senator. Do you know John Sharp Williams? In the 1908 Convention, the man got 8 or 11 delegates as a curtesy, before graciously saying he would not be a candidate for the subsequent ballots. Unfortunately I'm not in the mood to be curteous, so I'll greedily take what I can get in the terms of favorite sonnage. But if the convention goes to a second ballot, I'll happily withdraw and instruct them to throw their full support behind you. Party unity is key, unless we want a god-damned colored supremacist in the white house. It's the white house, not the fuckin' black house!"
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Postby Garkland » Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:25 pm

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Bradford held onto his hand keeping a soft but firm grip on it
“Good to see you as fell Fraser. Now where are we to discuss our important business?”


"In office, of course, Bradford." Fraser said, leading him into his office, where Fraser would offer him a seat before Fraser himself sat down.

"So what 'big things' was it that you wanted to discuss?"


Bradford sat down and pointed to himself “Mr Fraser I’m sure your aware of the Dixiecrats right? Those white nationalists that want to give more power to the states and what to get rid of all the People of color in this nation, this people who would reinforce slavery if they could. Now we may be on different party lines, but let me be the first to tell you, I despise of their views. They are an enemy to the Republic and to this nation. Fraser, we both despise of them. I may be a Democrat, I may have been a supporter of some of FDR’s polices, but oh let me tell you, these southerners put me at a crossroads. No, scratch that, every Democrat is at a crossroads, either choose to either do nothing about the Dixiecrats, openly support them, or change parties. Fraser, even though your visit of America isn’t exactly the same as mine, both of our ideal visions of this nation is nation where the colored and white people in this nation get along, a nation without the fear of a man denying you service because of your color. I know the primaries are coming up, and if I openly insult the Dixiecrats, I may have no choice at winning. So Mr. Fraser, I plan to not only run for the presidency, but to run as a Republican. Know you being such a yellow fellow like me, and having big ambitions I would assume you want to run too. But Fraser take these words into consideration, if I win the Republican nomination, you will be my top and first pick as my running mate. Yes I know it is too early to even be thinking about that, but imagine the potential, we could easily grab both blue states that know me for my Democrat stance on some things, and you could win very conservative states as well. It would be the perfect match, as we both get along very very well. So what do you say Fraser?”

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Postby Louisianan » Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:29 pm

Madrinpoor wrote:
Louisianan wrote:"Willingness to provide change?" Henry began to laugh, "Son, I sent National Guard troops to let a few kids into a school. I said in my New Years address that we have to work towards civil rights, look at Senator Stark for instance, he came to my office and we sat here and we had a nice chat and he told me that he wanted to make sure that Republicans are on the frontlines when it comes to civil rights. Senator Boone probably agrees with Senator Sharp that de-segregation is as unlawful as segregation, if not more!"

"And these are people in your party! I'm having Chairman James Brown Jr. come into this office and sit in that same chair, and he is the Chairman of the National Negro Rights Coalition. Senator Boone would shoot the man before letting him on White House grounds. Mr. Matamoros, change is coming, for your people, and I can assure you, but as long as congress is controlled by Democrats, you won't be seeing change. The election is coming soon, and I can almost say with full certainty that no matter the Republican Nominee, they will support Civil Rights, and continue righting our many years of wrongs as a nation. Civil Rights isn't a partisan issue, it's an American issue, but we Republicans seem to be the only people doing anything about it, and yet we get little to no credit. Don't you see the issue here, Mr. Matomoros?"

Juan pondered this.

"Yes sir I do see an issue. I see that many in my party do not support urgent change, but I do not believe all do. I would like to see something sir. I will propose a bill, one that supports equal rights for all minorities including Asians, Blacks, Hispanics, etc. It will ensure the elimination of poll taxes and other suppressive measures too often deployed on minorities. It will also give minorities a small edge over non-minorities in college picks, to compensate for segregated and poor schooling, as a part of the idea of affirmative action, as well as other measures. I will see who supports it, and if you support it, and the amount of Republicans you say would support something like this, then I will be very open to switching my party affiliation. But I must see first who actually supports Hispanics, and who is all talk."

"Now, Mr. Matamoros, nobody is going to support an Affirmative Action bill, and you have to understand why. It isn't that people don't support the colored population or the Hispanic population, the fact is we believe in Equality. We believe that a negro is equal to any white man, but we also believe that if a woman is more qualified than a man, then she should get that job, same for the races. What we don't agree with is that if a white man is more qualified to participate in a certain occupation than a colored man, for instance, that the colored man gets that job because of his race. We are fighting for equality, not another version of racial discrimination. That is basically the exact opposite of what is going on now with whites getting the job regardless of the qualifications for the negro or man of Hispanic extraction. Now please, explain your bill idea more in-depth for me." Henry said with a serious tone and interested expression,
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Postby Garkland » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:26 pm

Rodger Bradford ends an official statement from his office:

Official Public Statement from Roger Bradford

Dear Americans, it has come to my attention that racial tensions have been rising ever since the first colored people were transported to America. In light of this, I am sending this statement to say one of many things. Firstly I condemn white supremacy, segregationists, and Dixiecrats. They are public enemy number 1 and are a threat to a fair multiracial society. I will do everything in my power to insure that colored people are treated the same as white folk. Secondly I would like to announce my run for the White House. However I will not run as a Democrat but instead as a Republican. I still hold my progressive stance on many issues and the core reason on why I’m running as a Republican is because of breaking I want to break all association with the Dixiecrats. Lastly I would like to condemn a well known man that goes by the name of Senator Sharp. He is man of hatred towards the colored population and American values. He stands with a lost and broken cause. I warn all of you recognize his pure evil and insure he loses his power. Together we stand strong. God bless you all.
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Postby Madrinpoor » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:36 pm

Louisianan wrote:
Madrinpoor wrote:Juan pondered this.

"Yes sir I do see an issue. I see that many in my party do not support urgent change, but I do not believe all do. I would like to see something sir. I will propose a bill, one that supports equal rights for all minorities including Asians, Blacks, Hispanics, etc. It will ensure the elimination of poll taxes and other suppressive measures too often deployed on minorities. It will also give minorities a small edge over non-minorities in college picks, to compensate for segregated and poor schooling, as a part of the idea of affirmative action, as well as other measures. I will see who supports it, and if you support it, and the amount of Republicans you say would support something like this, then I will be very open to switching my party affiliation. But I must see first who actually supports Hispanics, and who is all talk."

"Now, Mr. Matamoros, nobody is going to support an Affirmative Action bill, and you have to understand why. It isn't that people don't support the colored population or the Hispanic population, the fact is we believe in Equality. We believe that a negro is equal to any white man, but we also believe that if a woman is more qualified than a man, then she should get that job, same for the races. What we don't agree with is that if a white man is more qualified to participate in a certain occupation than a colored man, for instance, that the colored man gets that job because of his race. We are fighting for equality, not another version of racial discrimination. That is basically the exact opposite of what is going on now with whites getting the job regardless of the qualifications for the negro or man of Hispanic extraction. Now please, explain your bill idea more in-depth for me." Henry said with a serious tone and interested expression,

"Sir, I understand what you are saying, but you do not understand what I am. What is needed now is not necessarily equality, but equity. Invest more money in schools, and start at the bottom, which I know you wouldn't like, or start at the end with Affirmative Action as compensation for the lower quality of schools. I would prefer the first one much much more. You asked about my bill? One of the first things it would do is stop the horrible segregation, which has caused this problem. The Jim Crow laws of the south would have to be stopped, but they could only be by the federal government, and I know many conservatives do not like more power with the federal government and prefer it to the states. Also it would require employers to not look at the race of those who are applying for a job, but instead just at the qualifications. And it would ban redlining, which is housing segregation. The government of course would need to enforce this. I am open to more suggestions, but this is the idea I have. I am a liberal of the philosophy of De Tocqueville and Locke. I believe in government's position as a defender of human rights...but not much else. This is a situation where the government must step in, and the government includes you Mr. President, the Democrats...and the Republicans."
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Postby Louisianan » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:47 pm

Madrinpoor wrote:
Louisianan wrote:"Now, Mr. Matamoros, nobody is going to support an Affirmative Action bill, and you have to understand why. It isn't that people don't support the colored population or the Hispanic population, the fact is we believe in Equality. We believe that a negro is equal to any white man, but we also believe that if a woman is more qualified than a man, then she should get that job, same for the races. What we don't agree with is that if a white man is more qualified to participate in a certain occupation than a colored man, for instance, that the colored man gets that job because of his race. We are fighting for equality, not another version of racial discrimination. That is basically the exact opposite of what is going on now with whites getting the job regardless of the qualifications for the negro or man of Hispanic extraction. Now please, explain your bill idea more in-depth for me." Henry said with a serious tone and interested expression,

"Sir, I understand what you are saying, but you do not understand what I am. What is needed now is not necessarily equality, but equity. Invest more money in schools, and start at the bottom, which I know you wouldn't like, or start at the end with Affirmative Action as compensation for the lower quality of schools. I would prefer the first one much much more. You asked about my bill? One of the first things it would do is stop the horrible segregation, which has caused this problem. The Jim Crow laws of the south would have to be stopped, but they could only be by the federal government, and I know many conservatives do not like more power with the federal government and prefer it to the states. Also it would require employers to not look at the race of those who are applying for a job, but instead just at the qualifications. And it would ban redlining, which is housing segregation. The government of course would need to enforce this. I am open to more suggestions, but this is the idea I have. I am a liberal of the philosophy of De Tocqueville and Locke. I believe in government's position as a defender of human rights...but not much else. This is a situation where the government must step in, and the government includes you Mr. President, the Democrats...and the Republicans."

"In domestic affairs, I've always supported a policy of "modern Republicanism" that could be considered middle ground between liberal Democrats and the conservative wing of the Republican Party. I've continued New Deal programs, expanded Social Security, and prioritized a balanced budget over tax cuts. I Special Message on Education to Congress, including a request for a 4-year, $1.3 billion total program of federal grants to the states for school construction."

"I support starting at the bottom, I always have. I have also always supported Quality of work over Race, from my military career, forward. I should have done more on the issue of Segregation, but there is little to do on my part when the Democrats tower over everything and I think in this next election, good-bipartisan people will be elected who will continue my work here. All of the things you are proposing, except Affirmative Action, are good suggestions but the way you are going about them will never work."

"Piece by piece is how things work..piece by piece in this jigsaw puzzle of politics. You have to start with a small plan and build upon it, nothing that is as drastic as your bill will pass, you have to do it part by part. The South has stopped our efforts, Dixiecrats who are in your party have halted our progress, I know the issue and where it is, but there is little I can do about it, as long as people like you continue to identify with people like them."
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Postby Madrinpoor » Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:01 pm

Louisianan wrote:
Madrinpoor wrote:"Sir, I understand what you are saying, but you do not understand what I am. What is needed now is not necessarily equality, but equity. Invest more money in schools, and start at the bottom, which I know you wouldn't like, or start at the end with Affirmative Action as compensation for the lower quality of schools. I would prefer the first one much much more. You asked about my bill? One of the first things it would do is stop the horrible segregation, which has caused this problem. The Jim Crow laws of the south would have to be stopped, but they could only be by the federal government, and I know many conservatives do not like more power with the federal government and prefer it to the states. Also it would require employers to not look at the race of those who are applying for a job, but instead just at the qualifications. And it would ban redlining, which is housing segregation. The government of course would need to enforce this. I am open to more suggestions, but this is the idea I have. I am a liberal of the philosophy of De Tocqueville and Locke. I believe in government's position as a defender of human rights...but not much else. This is a situation where the government must step in, and the government includes you Mr. President, the Democrats...and the Republicans."

"In domestic affairs, I've always supported a policy of "modern Republicanism" that could be considered middle ground between liberal Democrats and the conservative wing of the Republican Party. I've continued New Deal programs, expanded Social Security, and prioritized a balanced budget over tax cuts. I Special Message on Education to Congress, including a request for a 4-year, $1.3 billion total program of federal grants to the states for school construction."

"I support starting at the bottom, I always have. I have also always supported Quality of work over Race, from my military career, forward. I should have done more on the issue of Segregation, but there is little to do on my part when the Democrats tower over everything and I think in this next election, good-bipartisan people will be elected who will continue my work here. All of the things you are proposing, except Affirmative Action, are good suggestions but the way you are going about them will never work."

"Piece by piece is how things work..piece by piece in this jigsaw puzzle of politics. You have to start with a small plan and build upon it, nothing that is as drastic as your bill will pass, you have to do it part by part. The South has stopped our efforts, Dixiecrats who are in your party have halted our progress, I know the issue and where it is, but there is little I can do about it, as long as people like you continue to identify with people like them."

"Sir, I do not identify with them. They merely poison my party's image. And, with all due respect sir, piece by piece simply will not reach a solution. These people need positive change now. If Mr. Roosevelt had not pushed his large and dramatic New Deal forward, we would not have exited the Great Depression in time to win World War II when the Japanese attacked, and we may not have been having this conversation now. Sometimes dramatic change is what's needed. And bipartisan support, led by people high up in both parties, can bring that and stop segregation."
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Louisianan wrote:"In domestic affairs, I've always supported a policy of "modern Republicanism" that could be considered middle ground between liberal Democrats and the conservative wing of the Republican Party. I've continued New Deal programs, expanded Social Security, and prioritized a balanced budget over tax cuts. I Special Message on Education to Congress, including a request for a 4-year, $1.3 billion total program of federal grants to the states for school construction."

"I support starting at the bottom, I always have. I have also always supported Quality of work over Race, from my military career, forward. I should have done more on the issue of Segregation, but there is little to do on my part when the Democrats tower over everything and I think in this next election, good-bipartisan people will be elected who will continue my work here. All of the things you are proposing, except Affirmative Action, are good suggestions but the way you are going about them will never work."

"Piece by piece is how things work..piece by piece in this jigsaw puzzle of politics. You have to start with a small plan and build upon it, nothing that is as drastic as your bill will pass, you have to do it part by part. The South has stopped our efforts, Dixiecrats who are in your party have halted our progress, I know the issue and where it is, but there is little I can do about it, as long as people like you continue to identify with people like them."

"Sir, I do not identify with them. They merely poison my party's image. And, with all due respect sir, piece by piece simply will not reach a solution. These people need positive change now. If Mr. Roosevelt had not pushed his large and dramatic New Deal forward, we would not have exited the Great Depression in time to win World War II when the Japanese attacked, and we may not have been having this conversation now. Sometimes dramatic change is what's needed. And bipartisan support, led by people high up in both parties, can bring that and stop segregation."

"Anyone who is in politics knows that compromises must be made and no bill will pass in a day. I can assure you, my party supports Civil Rights, Equality, Equity, and the pursuit of happiness just like you, but we are careful because if we make one wrong move while the Dixiecrats have their majority, we will be silenced. I can assure you also, some of Roosevelts reforms caused the Depression to last longer than it should have, (Not-Trumans) advisors knew that, mine know that, and most economists understand that. Anyway, I'm not in the habit of bashing a dead man, so I will only suggest that you work with the Republicans when it comes to Civil Rights. A Bipartisan bill is the only way Civil Rights will be achieved, and that takes time, and work, and I think you should take your time writing a loophole-free bill that can't be killed in Committee or the Supreme Court." Henry said in a more casual tone,
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Garkland wrote:Rodger Bradford ends an official statement from his office:

Official Public Statement from Roger Bradford

Dear Americans, it has come to my attention that racial tensions have been rising ever since the first colored people were transported to America. In light of this, I am sending this statement to say one of many things. Firstly I condemn white supremacy, segregationists, and Dixiecrats. They are public enemy number 1 and are a threat to a fair multiracial society. I will do everything in my power to insure that colored people are treated the same as white folk. Secondly I would like to announce my run for the White House. However I will not run as a Democrat but instead as a Republican. I still hold my progressive stance on many issues and the core reason on why I’m running as a Republican is because of breaking I want to break all association with the Dixiecrats. Lastly I would like to condemn a well known man that goes by the name of Senator Sharp. He is man of hatred towards the colored population and American values. He stands with a lost and broken cause. I warn all of you recognize his pure evil and insure he loses his power. Together we stand strong. God bless you all.


After seeing the statement, Henry Davis happily dialed the Governor's phone number, "Hello Governor! Or should I say, GOP Presidential Candidate?"
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INTERVIEW OF THE CURRENT PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE
WAR HERO GENERAL JONATHAN JACKSON SAT DOWN FOR A ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEW

By Victor Turbot
January 5, 1959
D.C.- Former Supreme Commander for the Allied Powers; General Jonathan Jackson reached out to us for an Exclusive interview about his campaign and what his term would look like, and I interviewed him myself, you can find the full interview, below.

Victor Turbot: Thank you for agreeing to this interview, General.

Jackson: It's my pleasure to be talking to you.

Victor: General, there have been many questions surrounding your campaign such as how are you going to follow such an economically stable 8 years, and how are you going to handle the issue of civil rights? What is your answer to these questions?

Jackson: "I'll be answering about the economy first, since that I believe is the most important issue of our time. Economic stability is good, and I credit the President for this, but in order to remain ahead stability is not enough; we need explosive economic growth. Do mind you, this isn't a criticism or attack of the President; he has done a very good job. But I believe we can do even better. My economic agenda is based on three pillars."

"Pillar one are the tax cuts. As I've stated in my recent announcement, I'll be cutting the federal income tax and the corporate tax while also creating a minimum standard deduction; this aims to boost consumption - as people will have more money in their pockets - and investment as corporations will have more money to invest. I believe it is better to let consumers and corporations stimulate economic production rather than having the government do so, as market capitalism produces better results than communistic state planning; hence why I am proposing tax cuts rather than handouts or state investments."

"The second pillar is to remove harmful regulations. Yes, the state should regulate capitalism, in order to prevent abuses by bosses and danger to consumers. But some of the regulations only add up costs to businesses - which in turn raise the prices of goods for the consumers - while doing nothing of the sort; some regulations only exist to justify the pay of government bureaucrats and the funding of useless government departments. By removing them, businesses will have to deal with less red tape, which in turn means the services they offer will be cheaper."

"The third pillar is to cut waste in government. I do believe that most money that the government earns goes to good projects. I am not advocating for austerity or for cutting state aid to the poorest in our society. I am not a radical nor do I wish to defund social programs. But I do believe that in some cases, we have departments that are wasteful. I believe that every dollar matters and pledge to cut any waste that exists, so that the average American taxpayer can be benefited."

"Aside from those 'three pillars', I have also mentioned that I want a healthcare program that is a compromise between the ideals of liberty and security, a centrist solution. I believe we should be offering health insurance to the elderly that they can choose to purchase, instead of it being mandatory. That is a good compromise. Which leads me to your question about civil rights. I am a man who believes that national unity is of the outmost importance. A house divided cannot stand. We cannot allow ourselves to be divided before the Soviet menace. We are all Americans. Hence, as President, I will create bipartisan committee - with members being from both North and South - to reach an acceptable to all compromise on civil rights. It will be hard - I have no illusions about it - but I believe it is better to try for a solution that will unite America rather than push forth an agenda that will divide it once more."

Victor: If we cut the income tax, and put more money into the pockets of Americans, meaning more money is circulated, wouldn't something similar to the Stock Market Crash of '29 happen again? Also, could you explain more about this bi-partisan committee?

Jackson: "I believe that the Stock Market Crash of '29 wasn't caused by the average American, but rather by the deficiencies of the government. I am fairly certain that such a crash wouldn't happen, not to say that the American economy is far more stable now. There are two types of thinking, as I see it. Those who do not trust the average American and believe that government bureaucrats in Washington know better how to handle their money, and those who believe that the average American knows better his needs and those of his community, and so he should be the one deciding how his hard-earned money should be spent. I myself subscribe to the second type of thinking; I trust Americans. I trust the working man of this nation to decide what to do with his money."

"I also believe that putting more money into the pockets of Americans is a good thing. We need people to keep more of their money, so that they can buy more products and stimulate economic growth. We also need corporations to keep more of the money they earn, so that they have more money to invest into expanding their businesses, in the process creating new well-paying jobs. My dream for this country is for every American to have a well paying job."

"The bi-partisan committee will be made up of members of Congress from both chambers and from both sides. I will be speaking with party floor leaders to decide who will be in those committees. The representation will be both partisan and geographical. The committee will be tasked with debating and eventually reaching a compromise on civil rights. It will take some time - I do not expect the committee to come to any decisions in a few months. But it is better to find a solution acceptable to all rather than divide our nation as it faces the threat of Communism."


Victor: Studies have shown that in the prelude to the crash, more Americans were out spending, and businesses were producing more and more to comply with that influx in spending, and eventually, they produced too much, and they weren't able to sell it all, which caused over valuing of stocks, which in turn caused consumer confidence in the economy to decrease which in turn caused less spending, and people committing bank runs, all the while the Hoover administration did nothing to combat the crisis. What will you do to safeguard the economy from such a devastating event, in the case that it happens again?

Jackson: "The crash of 29' started as an ordinary recession, but the crisis was mishandled by the government. The great depression was caused by the fall of the money supply. People wanted to hold more money than the Federal Reserve was supplying, causing people to consume less by hoarding money. The Federal Reserve did not act to provide liquidity to banks suffering bank runs. If I was President and there was a recession, the Federal Reserve would be tasked with providing adequate liquidity to banks. I would also further cut taxes - temporarily - and increase spending - again temporarily - in order to boost consumption and production, thus getting us out of that hypothetical recession."

Victor: That is understandable. What are your thoughts on president Davis' recent attempts at continuing his work on Civil Rights, with his press releases about current legislative activity? And will you continue these efforts when you are in office, in addition to the BiPartisan committee?

Jackson:"I admire the President and have the outmost respect for him. On the issue of awarding electoral votes in the Electoral College to DC, I am supportive of this initiative. I cannot comment on the issue of civil rights though, as I believe it should be handled in a bipartisan manner rather than the President alone. Rest assured that any legislation on civil rights will have the support of both parties and of both North and South."

Victor: I see, also, since the beginning of President Davis' tenure in the white house, America has been more prepared than ever to withstand and defeat the red stare of the communists. He has sent out Preparedness PSA's and explained the dangers of a nuclear war should we get into one. How will you curb the power of the Russians, and end their influence in the Americas?

Jackson: "My plan is to ensure that the Block of Freedom - as I like to call the US and our allies - will be so far ahead economically and militarily, that the Soviets will be forced into a corner. Firstly, I shall increase by a lot financial and military aid to our allies in Europe, Africa, Asia and South America. This will create new jobs here in America, as weapons will be manufactured to support our allies. American companies will be encouraged to invest in allied countries, expanding our businesses opportunities. Our aid packages shall be tripled, at the very least. It will be pricy, but as the economies of our allies grow in a rapid rate, they will be able to take on more and more of the cost of their security, lessening the cost for America in the long term."

"All in all, such a policy would push us and our allies so far ahead of the Communists, that they will be forced to acknowledge our superiority. Of course, such aid to our allies will come with requirements. Our allies will be encouraged to reform their economies - if and when necessary - to optimize their use of our aid and will also be required to take measures against corruption, to ensure that our aid does not go into the pockets of political and military elites. They will have to respect the American taxpayers."

"Secondly, I will be responding overwhelmingly to any Communist attempt to expand their reach. In Vietnam, as President I will authorize a surge in the number of troops and expand military operations to the North. Vietnam will be unified as democratic, capitalist country. Red China will have to accept that or face our wrath. The Republic of China and the Republic of Korea shall be armed to the tooth. Red China will have to accept that or face our wrath. Any Soviet-backed regime in the Americas shall be met with overwhelming military response. We will not allow Communism in our continent."

"This is not an antagonism between two major powers. This is clash between liberty and slavery, between good and evil. We have to win this struggle, lest America falls at the hands of Communism."


Victor: Wouldn't that mean an increase in taxes? How will we get all of the money, if you dismember the federal income tax and taxes like it?

Jackson: "By two ways. One, by cutting government waste, as I've already said. To clarify, I am not talking about scrapping social programs. I am taking about red tape and bureaucracy and departments we don't need. I will be making more specific announcements in the coming weeks. Secondly through economic growth: the combination of tax cuts - which will stimulate the economy - and military manufacturing for our allies - which will necessitate the creation of new jobs and enhance our productivity - shall lead to a substantial growth of our economy that will pay for the tax cuts. "

Victor: Alright, I think you have some campaigning to do, so if you have any final comments, now is the time to air them out, General.

Jackson: "I have executive experience: I've led a defeated and broken Japan towards the path of prosperity. I have military experience: I know how to defeat the Vietnamese Communists and contain the Soviet menace. I have proven my patriotism on the field of battle. I believe in freedom, prosperity and unity. I believe in a mighty and free America. I believe in a proud America."

General Jackson had a lot to say, and most of it was very appealing, and he encourages anyone who may be unsure about this Candidate, to write to his campaign office, and request a pamphlet about his Conservative policies and ideologies that he supports.
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Garkland wrote:Rodger Bradford ends an official statement from his office:

Official Public Statement from Roger Bradford

Dear Americans, it has come to my attention that racial tensions have been rising ever since the first colored people were transported to America. In light of this, I am sending this statement to say one of many things. Firstly I condemn white supremacy, segregationists, and Dixiecrats. They are public enemy number 1 and are a threat to a fair multiracial society. I will do everything in my power to insure that colored people are treated the same as white folk. Secondly I would like to announce my run for the White House. However I will not run as a Democrat but instead as a Republican. I still hold my progressive stance on many issues and the core reason on why I’m running as a Republican is because of breaking I want to break all association with the Dixiecrats. Lastly I would like to condemn a well known man that goes by the name of Senator Sharp. He is man of hatred towards the colored population and American values. He stands with a lost and broken cause. I warn all of you recognize his pure evil and insure he loses his power. Together we stand strong. God bless you all.


After seeing the statement, Henry Davis happily dialed the Governor's phone number, "Hello Governor! Or should I say, GOP Presidential Candidate?"

“Ah yes, your right, and hopefully the next President of the United States. Now what do you need Mr. President?”

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After seeing the statement, Henry Davis happily dialed the Governor's phone number, "Hello Governor! Or should I say, GOP Presidential Candidate?"

“Ah yes, your right, and hopefully the next President of the United States. Now what do you need Mr. President?”

"Well, like the other Republican candidates, I'll also have to assure you that I won't be endorsing until after the primary, but it is coming more and more clear that we may have some difficulties in the primaries. I want you to assure me, that if your campaign is low in National Polls that you will concede the primary, but continue in Pennsylvania's primary to hold delegates for you to give out during the Convention, I'd also like you to assure me, that you'll try and keep Pennsylvania red for the time being." Henry says, in a semi-serious tone.
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"In office, of course, Bradford." Fraser said, leading him into his office, where Fraser would offer him a seat before Fraser himself sat down.

"So what 'big things' was it that you wanted to discuss?"


Bradford sat down and pointed to himself “Mr Fraser I’m sure your aware of the Dixiecrats right? Those white nationalists that want to give more power to the states and what to get rid of all the People of color in this nation, this people who would reinforce slavery if they could. Now we may be on different party lines, but let me be the first to tell you, I despise of their views. They are an enemy to the Republic and to this nation. Fraser, we both despise of them. I may be a Democrat, I may have been a supporter of some of FDR’s polices, but oh let me tell you, these southerners put me at a crossroads. No, scratch that, every Democrat is at a crossroads, either choose to either do nothing about the Dixiecrats, openly support them, or change parties. Fraser, even though your visit of America isn’t exactly the same as mine, both of our ideal visions of this nation is nation where the colored and white people in this nation get along, a nation without the fear of a man denying you service because of your color. I know the primaries are coming up, and if I openly insult the Dixiecrats, I may have no choice at winning. So Mr. Fraser, I plan to not only run for the presidency, but to run as a Republican. Know you being such a yellow fellow like me, and having big ambitions I would assume you want to run too. But Fraser take these words into consideration, if I win the Republican nomination, you will be my top and first pick as my running mate. Yes I know it is too early to even be thinking about that, but imagine the potential, we could easily grab both blue states that know me for my Democrat stance on some things, and you could win very conservative states as well. It would be the perfect match, as we both get along very very well. So what do you say Fraser?”




"I was elected to this office 2 months ago. I appreciate the duty that the people have New York have entrusted me with. I appreciate the offer, but I know that those that have supported me over the years, would be disappointed if I left the governorship half way through my term to serve as a vice president."

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Garkland wrote:“Ah yes, your right, and hopefully the next President of the United States. Now what do you need Mr. President?”

"Well, like the other Republican candidates, I'll also have to assure you that I won't be endorsing until after the primary, but it is coming more and more clear that we may have some difficulties in the primaries. I want you to assure me, that if your campaign is low in National Polls that you will concede the primary, but continue in Pennsylvania's primary to hold delegates for you to give out during the Convention, I'd also like you to assure me, that you'll try and keep Pennsylvania red for the time being." Henry says, in a semi-serious tone.



“Trust me I assure you I will achieve this. Pennsylvania will be as red as I can possibly make it. I’m working hard Mr President. Now is that all Mr President, no offense but why would you want to talk to a poor little Quaker Governor like me?”

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Garkland wrote:
Louisianan wrote:"Well, like the other Republican candidates, I'll also have to assure you that I won't be endorsing until after the primary, but it is coming more and more clear that we may have some difficulties in the primaries. I want you to assure me, that if your campaign is low in National Polls that you will concede the primary, but continue in Pennsylvania's primary to hold delegates for you to give out during the Convention, I'd also like you to assure me, that you'll try and keep Pennsylvania red for the time being." Henry says, in a semi-serious tone.



“Trust me I assure you I will achieve this. Pennsylvania will be as red as I can possibly make it. I’m working hard Mr President. Now is that all Mr President, no offense but why would you want to talk to a poor little Quaker Governor like me?”

"Your running for my job, I like to get to know all of the possible candidates," Davis said a bit offended, "I also want to make sure that the many candidates don't hurt the party in the end you know? And that no matter who wins, my conservative message will be continued."
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Bradford sat down and pointed to himself “Mr Fraser I’m sure your aware of the Dixiecrats right? Those white nationalists that want to give more power to the states and what to get rid of all the People of color in this nation, this people who would reinforce slavery if they could. Now we may be on different party lines, but let me be the first to tell you, I despise of their views. They are an enemy to the Republic and to this nation. Fraser, we both despise of them. I may be a Democrat, I may have been a supporter of some of FDR’s polices, but oh let me tell you, these southerners put me at a crossroads. No, scratch that, every Democrat is at a crossroads, either choose to either do nothing about the Dixiecrats, openly support them, or change parties. Fraser, even though your visit of America isn’t exactly the same as mine, both of our ideal visions of this nation is nation where the colored and white people in this nation get along, a nation without the fear of a man denying you service because of your color. I know the primaries are coming up, and if I openly insult the Dixiecrats, I may have no choice at winning. So Mr. Fraser, I plan to not only run for the presidency, but to run as a Republican. Know you being such a yellow fellow like me, and having big ambitions I would assume you want to run too. But Fraser take these words into consideration, if I win the Republican nomination, you will be my top and first pick as my running mate. Yes I know it is too early to even be thinking about that, but imagine the potential, we could easily grab both blue states that know me for my Democrat stance on some things, and you could win very conservative states as well. It would be the perfect match, as we both get along very very well. So what do you say Fraser?”




"I was elected to this office 2 months ago. I appreciate the duty that the people have New York have entrusted me with. I appreciate the offer, but I know that those that have supported me over the years, would be disappointed if I left the governorship half way through my term to serve as a vice president."



“Think of the potential though, a governor could only do so much, I respect your passion, but serving your nation rather than a single state is a more important duty in my opinion. You’d house give yourself time to think about this Fraser”

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Madrinpoor wrote:"Sir, I do not identify with them. They merely poison my party's image. And, with all due respect sir, piece by piece simply will not reach a solution. These people need positive change now. If Mr. Roosevelt had not pushed his large and dramatic New Deal forward, we would not have exited the Great Depression in time to win World War II when the Japanese attacked, and we may not have been having this conversation now. Sometimes dramatic change is what's needed. And bipartisan support, led by people high up in both parties, can bring that and stop segregation."

"Anyone who is in politics knows that compromises must be made and no bill will pass in a day. I can assure you, my party supports Civil Rights, Equality, Equity, and the pursuit of happiness just like you, but we are careful because if we make one wrong move while the Dixiecrats have their majority, we will be silenced. I can assure you also, some of Roosevelts reforms caused the Depression to last longer than it should have, (Not-Trumans) advisors knew that, mine know that, and most economists understand that. Anyway, I'm not in the habit of bashing a dead man, so I will only suggest that you work with the Republicans when it comes to Civil Rights. A Bipartisan bill is the only way Civil Rights will be achieved, and that takes time, and work, and I think you should take your time writing a loophole-free bill that can't be killed in Committee or the Supreme Court." Henry said in a more casual tone,

"I have been in politics before, I know the importance of patience, sir. I also know the importance of bipartisanship, and how important it is to work with Republicans on Civil Rights. If I do end up changing my affiliation, which is still a possibility though I have not decided on anything yet, it will likely need to be before my election."
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Madrinpoor wrote:
Louisianan wrote:"Anyone who is in politics knows that compromises must be made and no bill will pass in a day. I can assure you, my party supports Civil Rights, Equality, Equity, and the pursuit of happiness just like you, but we are careful because if we make one wrong move while the Dixiecrats have their majority, we will be silenced. I can assure you also, some of Roosevelts reforms caused the Depression to last longer than it should have, (Not-Trumans) advisors knew that, mine know that, and most economists understand that. Anyway, I'm not in the habit of bashing a dead man, so I will only suggest that you work with the Republicans when it comes to Civil Rights. A Bipartisan bill is the only way Civil Rights will be achieved, and that takes time, and work, and I think you should take your time writing a loophole-free bill that can't be killed in Committee or the Supreme Court." Henry said in a more casual tone,

"I have been in politics before, I know the importance of patience, sir. I also know the importance of bipartisanship, and how important it is to work with Republicans on Civil Rights. If I do end up changing my affiliation, which is still a possibility though I have not decided on anything yet, it will likely need to be before my election."

"Well, I agree, if you decide to swap parties, make sure you explain that a Democratic President like Boone or Sharp would be the leaders of the party, and I sincerely doubt that New Mexico plans on voting for either of them, but we'll see." Davis chuckled,
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