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Postby Dalmannia » Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:48 pm

Sao Nova Europa wrote:The overwhelming majority of Democrats are liberals
Only two Dixiecrats exist. The only reason that people get the impression that Democrats are the party of Dixiecrats is because liberal Democrats have been awful so far at opposing the Dixiecrats. This seems to be changing, seeing how liberal Democrats are more active in the IC and more vocal against the Dixiecrats, so it may not really be an issue.

I would say that the greater issue is the lack of conservative Republicans. Aside from Jackson, I don't think there are any conservative Republicans. There might be one or two Republicans who are moderate and for tax cuts but don't see any outright conservatives.

True. It seems the Dixiecrats are just an incredibly vocal minority. And in terms of conservative Republicans, Jackson looks like he’s the most popular candidate in the race right now. Granted, we’ve still got more than a year to go until election night, but nevertheless I’d say he’s got a good shot at shifting the GOP’s platform further to the right.
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Postby Flowerdell » Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:54 pm

I'll reply to James and the Governor tomorrow! See if we can get something going. Maybe with Senator Stevens as well.

From California, to Texas, to Massachusetts. Quite a nice grouping, I dare say.

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Postby Dalmannia » Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:09 pm

Flowerdell wrote:I'll reply to James and the Governor tomorrow! See if we can get something going. Maybe with Senator Stevens as well.

From California, to Texas, to Massachusetts. Quite a nice grouping, I dare say.

A very nice grouping. I definitely see some opportunities moving forward.
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Postby Cybernetic Socialist Republics » Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:14 pm

Still available for interviews for both Frasers.

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Postby Free Ward Marchers » Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:37 pm

I acknowledge that some of you have doubts about the rp so I will answer some misconceived notions.

There are too many Dixiecrats!: There are two Dixiecrat characters, Senator Sharp and Representative Broussard the remaining 8 democratic characters range from centrist-liberal with the majority being liberal.

The Ideas in congress are outrageous!: Yeah, that's kind of the point, a lot of the bills presented in congress both then and now are bad and stinky, that's politics baby, and remember just because they are presented, doesn't mean they'll pass.

The Democratic Party will collapse!: Doubtful, the loose cannons in the party are very small minority that rarely get any attention (unless you give them it), and the vast majority of the democrats are liberals as I stated above, also the bills that are presented that may "break the party" (as well as most bills) are usually never public knowledge until after they die/pass.

If you have any other concerns tg me and I might be able to give an explanation/fix an issue

don't know who needs to see this but here it is
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:02 am

Great.

It seems that the presidential election might be between Jackson and Ladhe, assuming numbers for primaries don't change dramatically.
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Postby Latvijas Otra Republika » Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:59 am

Sao Nova Europa wrote:Great.

It seems that the presidential election might be between Jackson and Ladhe, assuming numbers for primaries don't change dramatically.

That would be interesting if it were to happen

What divisions/theatre did Jackson command? Since Lahde served in the Pacific
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:43 am

Latvijas Otra Republika wrote:
Sao Nova Europa wrote:Great.

It seems that the presidential election might be between Jackson and Ladhe, assuming numbers for primaries don't change dramatically.

That would be interesting if it were to happen

What divisions/theatre did Jackson command? Since Lahde served in the Pacific


He was Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces in the Pacific. Basically this TLs version of MacArthur.
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"I’ve just bitten a snake. Never mind me, I’ve got business to look after."
- Guo Jing ‘The Brave Archer’.

“In war, to keep the upper hand, you have to think two or three moves ahead of the enemy.”
- Char Aznable

"Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat."
- Sun Tzu

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Postby Deblar » Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:44 am

not too suprising that Sharp isn't doing too well in the poll
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Postby Dalmannia » Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:33 am

We’re in good shape for this to be a Lahde vs Jackson election, assuming nothing drastic happens between now and the end of the primaries, which is still a ways to go. Also, Bradford is doing surprisingly well given that I haven’t heard much from his campaign recently. I suppose this success indicates some possibility for him yet, but Jackson is going to be keeping the pressure on.
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:45 am

Dalmannia wrote:We’re in good shape for this to be a Lahde vs Jackson election, assuming nothing drastic happens between now and the end of the primaries, which is still a ways to go. Also, Bradford is doing surprisingly well given that I haven’t heard much from his campaign recently. I suppose this success indicates some possibility for him yet, but Jackson is going to be keeping the pressure on.


The main reason for his success is because he is the only liberal Republican in the race. There is no other liberal candidate yet for liberal Republicans to support. With Fraser indicating he wants to enter the race, though, the most likely outcome is that the liberal vote splits between them. Meanwhile, Jackson has unified the conservative wing (since there is no other conservative in the race) and gets some moderate support due to his war hero status.
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"I’ve just bitten a snake. Never mind me, I’ve got business to look after."
- Guo Jing ‘The Brave Archer’.

“In war, to keep the upper hand, you have to think two or three moves ahead of the enemy.”
- Char Aznable

"Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat."
- Sun Tzu

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Postby Newne Carriebean7 » Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:46 am

Deblar wrote:not too suprising that Sharp isn't doing too well in the poll

Well, Sharp's main political platform of state's rights and anti-new dealism dosen't seem to have much of an audience outside of the deep south, so I'm guessing that's where his 15% comes from, a collection of dirt-poor white folk who like his racist attitudes that pin the blame on their economic woes on the blacks, some far-right KKK members who haven't really gotten to know his real attitudes on the group (and Sharp intends to try and keep his mouth shut about griping about the KKK's communist influences so as to not lose their support), maybe the rural farmers of mississippi and possibly even a colored that forgets he's racist.

I call it the Redneck Coalition.

Also I'm thinkin' of having Sharp release an official campaign platform, though I've only got a faint idea as to what issues he'd speak on and publish in the platform. Maybe Sharp can look at Booth's campaign notes and do the opposite.
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Postby Emazia » Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:09 am

Which party should I run the not-MLK in? I'll probably have him go third party just for the hell of it.
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Postby Deblar » Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:10 am

Emazia wrote:Which party should I run the not-MLK in? I'll probably have him go third party just for the hell of it.

Probably Democrat

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Postby Latvijas Otra Republika » Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:14 am

Sao Nova Europa wrote:
Latvijas Otra Republika wrote:That would be interesting if it were to happen

What divisions/theatre did Jackson command? Since Lahde served in the Pacific


He was Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces in the Pacific. Basically this TLs version of MacArthur.

I wonder if Lahde would have some sort of animosity due to that or not. I generally don't know the attitudes of the typical U.S ww2 soldier after returning home towards command and everything else.
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Postby Dalmannia » Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:21 am

Latvijas Otra Republika wrote:
Sao Nova Europa wrote:
He was Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces in the Pacific. Basically this TLs version of MacArthur.

I wonder if Lahde would have some sort of animosity due to that or not. I generally don't know the attitudes of the typical U.S ww2 soldier after returning home towards command and everything else.

Quite a few of us did fight in the war, particularly the Pacific Theatre it seems. I wouldn’t expect too much animosity towards command, but that could very well vary on a personal basis.
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Postby Latvijas Otra Republika » Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:38 am

https://ghostsofdc.org/2013/09/26/red-capitol-dome/

Capitol is going to have a red dome in a couple of months
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Postby Latvijas Otra Republika » Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:43 am

Dalmannia wrote:
Latvijas Otra Republika wrote:I wonder if Lahde would have some sort of animosity due to that or not. I generally don't know the attitudes of the typical U.S ww2 soldier after returning home towards command and everything else.

Quite a few of us did fight in the war, particularly the Pacific Theatre it seems. I wouldn’t expect too much animosity towards command, but that could very well vary on a personal basis.

I think the general background of the Vietnam war might have subconsciously influenced the amount of Pacific theatre veterans, either that or the terrain of pacific is more interesting than cold/muddy/snowy European fields and war ruins (If you don't consider Southern Italy and the Med)
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:54 am

I've mainly read about MacArthur military operations (on a tactical/strategic sense AKA military history), and not so much on what the opinion of the average soldier towards him would have been, but I do believe that since the general public in America considered him a national hero of sorts, that most of the veterans too should have respected him; same with Jackson in our TL I assume.


[Also, Jackson (like MacArthur) was Commander of UN Forces in Korean War, for any Korean vets]
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"I’ve just bitten a snake. Never mind me, I’ve got business to look after."
- Guo Jing ‘The Brave Archer’.

“In war, to keep the upper hand, you have to think two or three moves ahead of the enemy.”
- Char Aznable

"Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat."
- Sun Tzu

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Postby Flowerdell » Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:57 am

Sao Nova Europa wrote:I've mainly read about MacArthur military operations (on a tactical/strategic sense AKA military history), and not so much on what the opinion of the average soldier towards him would have been, but I do believe that since the general public in America considered him a national hero of sorts, that most of the veterans too should have respected him; same with Jackson in our TL I assume.


[Also, Jackson (like MacArthur) was Commander of UN Forces in Korean War, for any Korean vets]


Willie served in the Pacific and in Korea after it. He probably has a well formulated distant view of Jackson. Probably on the basis of respect.

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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:10 am

The great thing about writing speeches for Jackson is that I can explain away any typos or grammatical mistakes as him making occasional gaffes in his speech. :p
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"I’ve just bitten a snake. Never mind me, I’ve got business to look after."
- Guo Jing ‘The Brave Archer’.

“In war, to keep the upper hand, you have to think two or three moves ahead of the enemy.”
- Char Aznable

"Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat."
- Sun Tzu

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Postby Free Ward Marchers » Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:28 am

if it is Jackson vs Ladhe, I predict this map
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:30 am

A close victory for Jackson? I like that. :) 8)
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"I’ve just bitten a snake. Never mind me, I’ve got business to look after."
- Guo Jing ‘The Brave Archer’.

“In war, to keep the upper hand, you have to think two or three moves ahead of the enemy.”
- Char Aznable

"Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat."
- Sun Tzu

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Postby Free Ward Marchers » Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:31 am

Free Ward Marchers wrote:if it is Jackson vs Ladhe, I predict this map

If he picks a liberal as his VP he will win Delaware, Maryland, New Jersey, and maybe Pennsylvania
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