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Postby Cybernetic Socialist Republics » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:11 am

Meretica wrote:
Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:can we not do this wrecker stuff where ladhe supports personal choice abortion one second and then offers anti-black measures on the other? it's ridiculous. literally not worth having it by a player character anymore if this is how it's going to be treated

The anti-black measures were an attempt to build influence over Sharp, he doesn't really believe in passing that kind of legislation. Likewise, though, the personal choice abortion proposal was mostly a stunt, at least it'd get his name out there.


Get his name out there? What are you talking about? he was tied for first in the democratic primaries with 30% of the vote in the previous poll and is at 20% in the current one.

All that'd happen out of promising support for something directly against his entire image is make him look ridiculous.

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Meretica
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Postby Meretica » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:16 am

Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:
Meretica wrote:The anti-black measures were an attempt to build influence over Sharp, he doesn't really believe in passing that kind of legislation. Likewise, though, the personal choice abortion proposal was mostly a stunt, at least it'd get his name out there.


Get his name out there? What are you talking about? he was tied for first in the democratic primaries with 30% of the vote in the previous poll and is at 20% in the current one.

All that'd happen out of promising support for something directly against his entire image is make him look ridiculous.

But there was a substantial number of undecideds. Also, I do not believe that abortion support is OOC for him.

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Postby Emazia » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:33 am

Being anti-black while being pro-abortion makes you look like a eugenicist. This will play very badly among African-American voters, especially if Stolzman or even Boone capitalise on it.
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Postby Meretica » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:46 am

Emazia wrote:Being anti-black while being pro-abortion makes you look like a eugenicist. This will play very badly among African-American voters, especially if Stolzman or even Boone capitalize on it.

He's not publicly campaigning as anti-black, just among the Senators he's trying to get on board with his brain child.

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Postby Meretica » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:55 pm

I think that this will be a Boone vs. Fraser situation or Boone vs. Jackson situation. Generally speaking, I think Boone has better chances versus Jackson, but that Fraser would have a slight lead over Boone. It'll be close regardless.

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Postby Louisianan » Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:52 pm

Meretica wrote:I think that this will be a Boone vs. Fraser situation or Boone vs. Jackson situation. Generally speaking, I think Boone has better chances versus Jackson, but that Fraser would have a slight lead over Boone. It'll be close regardless.

Don't forget to reply to the Debate.

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Postby Hopal » Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:04 pm

Did the House vote on the Workplace Investigations Act yet?
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Postby Louisianan » Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:07 pm

Hopal wrote:Did the House vote on the Workplace Investigations Act yet?

Not yet, first is the Inclusions Act.

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Postby Free Ward Marchers » Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:20 pm

Hopal wrote:Did the House vote on the Workplace Investigations Act yet?

because you are the only active voting member in the house rn, we are doing a mass sweep through the docket
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Postby Meretica » Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:55 pm

Louisianan wrote:
Meretica wrote:I think that this will be a Boone vs. Fraser situation or Boone vs. Jackson situation. Generally speaking, I think Boone has better chances versus Jackson, but that Fraser would have a slight lead over Boone. It'll be close regardless.

Don't forget to reply to the Debate.

I won't, I'm being cautious with my wording.

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Postby Louisianan » Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:58 pm

Meretica wrote:
Louisianan wrote:Don't forget to reply to the Debate.

I won't, I'm being cautious with my wording.

Smart

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Postby Lavan Tiri » Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:30 pm

Meretica wrote:I think that this will be a Boone vs. Fraser situation or Boone vs. Jackson situation. Generally speaking, I think Boone has better chances versus Jackson, but that Fraser would have a slight lead over Boone. It'll be close regardless.


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Postby Free Ward Marchers » Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:01 pm

Lavan Tiri wrote:
Meretica wrote:I think that this will be a Boone vs. Fraser situation or Boone vs. Jackson situation. Generally speaking, I think Boone has better chances versus Jackson, but that Fraser would have a slight lead over Boone. It'll be close regardless.


Primaries are still barely started, lots can change


Iowa doesn't even start till February which is six months away (because of that we might be speeding u the in game time a little bit, but that is yet to be decided)
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Postby Deblar » Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:18 pm

Sharp: ridicules Turner for campaigning in Iowa
Also Sharp: immediately starts campaigning in Illinois

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Postby Newne Carriebean7 » Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:20 pm

Deblar wrote:Sharp: ridicules Turner for campaigning in Iowa
Also Sharp: immediately starts campaigning in Illinois

Hipocracy, what's that?
shhh, Sharp spends most of his time in Cedar Grove, Turner hasn't really been back home from what I can tell.
Also the Illinois was the first time Sharp got out of Mississippi.
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Postby Deblar » Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:24 pm

Newne Carriebean7 wrote:
Deblar wrote:Sharp: ridicules Turner for campaigning in Iowa
Also Sharp: immediately starts campaigning in Illinois

Hipocracy, what's that?
shhh, Sharp spends most of his time in Cedar Grove, Turner hasn't really been back home from what I can tell.
Also the Illinois was the first time Sharp got out of Mississippi.

True, but the timing was questionable at best

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Postby Free Ward Marchers » Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:32 pm

Deblar wrote:Sharp: ridicules Turner for campaigning in Iowa
Also Sharp: immediately starts campaigning in Illinois

wy would you criticize someone for campaigning in the first primary state? That's like criticizing someone for trying to win the election you are also running in
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Postby Meretica » Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:48 pm

Free Ward Marchers wrote:
Deblar wrote:Sharp: ridicules Turner for campaigning in Iowa
Also Sharp: immediately starts campaigning in Illinois

wy would you criticize someone for campaigning in the first primary state? That's like criticizing someone for trying to win the election you are also running in

Well, to a degree, I agree. But if the situation were reversed and it was Turner criticizing Sharp... well XD

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Postby Meretica » Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:52 pm

I just read through Sharp's statement, and on the one hand, yes Sharp has some good points, but on the other hand, Robinette does too, but on the third hand that I'm borrowing from a Halloween store, this is Sharp, is anyone really taking him seriously? But also, Ladhe made some questionable abortion comments that could be taken as his secret support for communism via the supposed murder of unborn children, but that's a discussion for the late 60s and forevermore

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Postby Cybernetic Socialist Republics » Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:26 pm

Meretica wrote:I just read through Sharp's statement, and on the one hand, yes Sharp has some good points, but on the other hand, Robinette does too, but on the third hand that I'm borrowing from a Halloween store, this is Sharp, is anyone really taking him seriously? But also, Ladhe made some questionable abortion comments that could be taken as his secret support for communism via the supposed murder of unborn children, but that's a discussion for the late 60s and forevermore




America has the ability to produce cars, steel, oil-- we just have to take a chance to do it. We also need to work towards establishing long-term peace in the Middle East so that if our oil reserves run dry or become too expensive to profit off of, we can buy cheap oil to keep America running. In some cases, green energy would also be a benefit to the global economy, especially in the north and southwest. Using solar panels and nuclear technology, America has a chance to leap ahead internationally on energy production. I



I beg you dude, spend 5 seconds trying to understand the world of 1959.

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Postby Meretica » Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:28 pm

Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:
Meretica wrote:I just read through Sharp's statement, and on the one hand, yes Sharp has some good points, but on the other hand, Robinette does too, but on the third hand that I'm borrowing from a Halloween store, this is Sharp, is anyone really taking him seriously? But also, Ladhe made some questionable abortion comments that could be taken as his secret support for communism via the supposed murder of unborn children, but that's a discussion for the late 60s and forevermore




America has the ability to produce cars, steel, oil-- we just have to take a chance to do it. We also need to work towards establishing long-term peace in the Middle East so that if our oil reserves run dry or become too expensive to profit off of, we can buy cheap oil to keep America running. In some cases, green energy would also be a benefit to the global economy, especially in the north and southwest. Using solar panels and nuclear technology, America has a chance to leap ahead internationally on energy production. I



I beg you dude, spend 5 seconds trying to understand the world of 1959.

I do understand 1959. I also understand that Robinette is a political maverick.

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Postby Louisianan » Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:45 pm

Meretica wrote:
Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:


America has the ability to produce cars, steel, oil-- we just have to take a chance to do it. We also need to work towards establishing long-term peace in the Middle East so that if our oil reserves run dry or become too expensive to profit off of, we can buy cheap oil to keep America running. In some cases, green energy would also be a benefit to the global economy, especially in the north and southwest. Using solar panels and nuclear technology, America has a chance to leap ahead internationally on energy production. I



I beg you dude, spend 5 seconds trying to understand the world of 1959.

I do understand 1959. I also understand that Robinette is a political maverick.

He's talking about Solar Panels, Green Energy, and such. Be careful to not import 2020 issues in the1960 race, mostly because he may start to look like Sharp-type crazy to his constituents and such.

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Postby Meretica » Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:55 pm

Louisianan wrote:
Meretica wrote:I do understand 1959. I also understand that Robinette is a political maverick.

He's talking about Solar Panels, Green Energy, and such. Be careful to not import 2020 issues in the1960 race, mostly because he may start to look like Sharp-type crazy to his constituents and such.

Solar is in some of its earliest stages right now.

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Postby Emazia » Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:13 pm

Meretica wrote:
Louisianan wrote:He's talking about Solar Panels, Green Energy, and such. Be careful to not import 2020 issues in the1960 race, mostly because he may start to look like Sharp-type crazy to his constituents and such.

Solar is in some of its earliest stages right now.

Yes, but imagine if you started answering a question about trade with a diatribe about lithium-oxygen batteries and helium-3 from the Moon being used for nuclear fusion today, then talked about how America 'could' produce services for the internet and be the cultural centre of world entertainment. That's what Wilson-Carter sounds like.
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Postby Meretica » Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:38 pm

Emazia wrote:
Meretica wrote:Solar is in some of its earliest stages right now.

Yes, but imagine if you started answering a question about trade with a diatribe about lithium-oxygen batteries and helium-3 from the Moon being used for nuclear fusion today, then talked about how America 'could' produce services for the internet and be the cultural centre of world entertainment. That's what Wilson-Carter sounds like.

You are entitled to your own opinion, and we have every right to agree to disagree with one another.

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