Home of The Brave: A 1960's Political RP

[Louisianan]

I can see however in the list of presidents people who did insult and became presidents.

There were actually many, I can see what you may be implying, and I'll have to stop you right there. DROP YOUR WEAPONS XDDDD

[Sao Nova Europa]

Posted fundraiser post. Business guys, I expect cash if you want tax cuts.

I can see however in the list of presidents people who did insult and became presidents.

There were actually many, I can see what you may be implying, and I'll have to stop you right there. DROP YOUR WEAPONS XDDDD

[Cybernetic Socialist Republics]

I have implied or said most of this IC and the rest would be said privately, but just to make things clear so it doesn't look like a reaction to polls or whatever happens going forward, The Fraser's general view on the presidential race simplified is:

1. Sees Sharp is the only candidate worse than Jackson. Fraser is closer to Ladhe on everything but Vietnam than he is to Jackson, while Boone has Jackson's civil rights position but is closer on economics.

2. Sees being VP to Jackson as a bad idea, even if he wins and only serves one term, Tom Fraser would be in a position where he has to win the fourth and fifth consecutive Republican presidential term to stay in office, he see's that as a massive task regardless of how Jackson's term goes, which he assumes would be very poorly.

3. Thinks Jackson's chances to win are poor, even while being his VP. Thinks losing on a presidential ticket even as VP could easily be a major political career set back and even being Jackson's VP pick would be harmful to his brand. Given their views on how such a term would go and on Jackson, Tom is absolutely unwilling to take the risk anyhow, because the same party winning three elections in a row is difficult in the best of circumstances.

4. If Jackson is the nominee, they think the time is better used backing liberal republicans in the Senate and House so they can survive what they assume would be a defeat, even if Jackson wins, the Fraser's believe it's better to be on the outside of such an administration, for reasons mentioned in 1 and 2. If he loses, that resets the clock on consecutive republican wins, allowing an insurgent campaign in '64 for Fraser with lots of "I told you so's"

5. Sees it as virtually impossible for a republican to win without a very strong showing in the north, which is why he sees Jackson's chances as very low against Boone or Ladhe. Sees going after the deep south as largely unimportant as long as the north is won decisively.

6. Is largely unconcerned with the possibility of a conservative third party run from Jackson if Fraser gets the nomination. Thinks that depending on the democratic candidate, it is more likely to hand a state or two to him in the south than it is to cost in the north. Even then a loss in a three way race due to a third party run is easier to spin than an outright loss and a conservative third party makes it easier to make the GOP liberal-moderate anyway, particularly if the loss was an electoral college plurality taken away by the house.

[Newne Carriebean7]

1. Sees Sharp is the only candidate worse than Jackson.

Yay! Sharp's worse than Jackson! I assume that's based on Sharp's frequent support for the civil rights of the whites in the south.

I mean if Sharp decides to bolt from the Democrats if they opt to pick two liberals on the ticket. Sharp's relationship with Booth is frosty now, so Sharp might toy with a bolt from the Democratic Party if Booth ends up getting the nomination. Though he'll just toy with it to fuck with Booth. As I said before Sharp's not going to abandon the Democratic Party, but he'll keep messing around and giving statements to sow confusion.

[Sao Nova Europa]

Well... Jackson will have to find another VP then.

Jackson's general view of the race can be simplified to: we are going to kick some ass and win

Going for a two terms presidency BTW. Age ain't gonna stop that.

[Louisianan]

Well... Jackson will have to find another VP then.

Jackson's general view of the race can be simplified to: we are going to kick some ass and win

Going for a two terms presidency BTW. Age ain't gonna stop that.

Stop being cocky, things may change.

[Sao Nova Europa]

Well... Jackson will have to find another VP then.

Jackson's general view of the race can be simplified to: we are going to kick some ass and win

Going for a two terms presidency BTW. Age ain't gonna stop that.

Stop being cocky, things may change.

True, but it helps having a confident attitude.

Plus I am mostly joking

[Sao Nova Europa]

Posted a somewhat long Jackson campaign speech in NY.

[Louisianan]

Williams a Simp For Douglas Confirmed?

[Hopal]

Davis should make a decision on the three bills on his desk.

[Chia Dal]

Williams a Simp For Douglas Confirmed?

Not only no but hell no.

[Louisianan]

Davis should make a decision on the three bills on his desk.

Davis is busy

[Cybernetic Socialist Republics]

more than once I've seen people metagame regarding the future direction of events in asia.

[Louisianan]

more than once I've seen people metagame regarding the future direction of events in asia.

What do you mean?

[Cybernetic Socialist Republics]

more than once I've seen people metagame regarding the future direction of events in asia.

What do you mean?

the sino soviet split doesn't happen until the 60s, zero reason to think that china can be turned away from the USSR at this point.

Also tbh the exact logic of why intervention in Vietnam might be bad used by ladhe is highly dependent on future knowledge, France held onto Vietnam pretty well for nearly 100 years and china's period of dominance of Vietnam lasted for the better part of a thousand years.

[Louisianan]

What do you mean?

the sino soviet split doesn't happen until the 60s, zero reason to think that china can be turned away from the USSR at this point.

Also tbh the exact logic of why intervention in Vietnam might be bad used by ladhe is highly dependent on future knowledge, France held onto Vietnam pretty well for nearly 100 years and china's period of dominance of Vietnam lasted for the better part of a thousand years.

It's impossible to not meta game in those circumstances, and I think on behalf of the Mods, here, I think we can overlook it this time, we'll all just have to make sure that we try to refrain from doing so in the future.

[Latvijas Otra Republika]

more than once I've seen people metagame regarding the future direction of events in asia.

I’m sick to shit of your passive aggressiveness, I don’t know if it’s because of your ooc political views or something else. Fucking TG me if you’ve got a problem and not be some high and mighty RP expert

Literally the entire reason that decision was made because the official article said public support was 50/50 and that the Vietnam issue had polled high, considering that going into an anti-war direction would appease some demographics and differentiate from the rest of the candidates I thought why not - no one else was doing it and it would bring some risk (something RPs might need once while, to like be fun and shit)

Fucking Christ

I’m gonna meta game a pipe bomb in Sofia’s car

[Dalmannia]

I mean if Sharp decides to bolt from the Democrats if they opt to pick two liberals on the ticket. Sharp's relationship with Booth is frosty now, so Sharp might toy with a bolt from the Democratic Party if Booth ends up getting the nomination. Though he'll just toy with it to fuck with Booth. As I said before Sharp's not going to abandon the Democratic Party, but he'll keep messing around and giving statements to sow confusion.

‘Frosty?’

Well, this just in. For this morning’s forecast, we expect an immobilizing blizzard with several feet of snow coming in down South!

(I hope Sharp has some winter clothes, because it just got a lot colder)

[Cybernetic Socialist Republics]

more than once I've seen people metagame regarding the future direction of events in asia.

I’m sick to shit of your passive aggressiveness, I don’t know if it’s because of your ooc political views or something else. Fucking TG me if you’ve got a problem and not be some high and mighty RP expert

Literally the entire reason that decision was made because the official article said public support was 50/50 and that the Vietnam issue had polled high, considering that going into an anti-war direction would appease some demographics and differentiate from the rest of the candidates I thought why not - no one else was doing it and it would bring some risk (something RPs might need once while, to like be fun and shit)

Fucking Christ

I’m gonna meta game a pipe bomb in Sofia’s car

lmao it's absolute not my ooc political views, I'd put the percentage of my actual views that I'm RPing at 20% and that's a stretch. Obviously the Vietnam war is the complete waste of time, but publicly pointing that out in the mid 60s as a high level politician was hard, nevermind in an alt history where the war starts fresh off McCarthyism.


anyhow, the senate has been stuck in questioning for awhile now

[Louisianan]

Has anyone thought of making a Phyllis Schlafly type character? She would be the equivalent of a female General Jackson

[Hopal]

Douglas is trying to answer all questions before ending questioning so that he can introduce the amendments but Broussard is asking questions at a faster pace than he can answer.

[Louisianan]

Douglas is trying to answer all questions before ending questioning so that he can introduce the amendments but Broussard is asking questions at a faster pace than he can answer.

Sorry 'bout that, I've been busy so I'm trying to do everything as fast as I can

[Cybernetic Socialist Republics]

don't want to be too pushy, but it's been two pages since asking for unanimous consent to end questioning.

[Louisianan]

don't want to be too pushy, but it's been two pages since asking for unanimous consent to end questioning.

I didn't want it to interrupt the questioning period, plus it got covered by other things, plus I've been pretty busy lately.

[Cybernetic Socialist Republics]

I'll just say from the outset that there's absolutely no way Sofia is supporting a proposal that requires businesses to report to the federal government why they've fired someone. there are better ways to incentivize fair hiring practices.