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by Louisianan » Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:25 am
by Deblar » Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:38 am
Louisianan wrote:Poll for The Debate is UP!
-Presidential Race polls should be up in a few days.
-I will be calling an end to the protest pretty today, if Deblar doesn't respond. Feel free to post speeches talking about it, I didn't give permission to Newne (Sharp) to make a speech talking about the protest in Louisiana, in Louisiana.
by Louisianan » Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:40 am
Deblar wrote:Louisianan wrote:Poll for The Debate is UP!
-Presidential Race polls should be up in a few days.
-I will be calling an end to the protest pretty today, if Deblar doesn't respond. Feel free to post speeches talking about it, I didn't give permission to Newne (Sharp) to make a speech talking about the protest in Louisiana, in Louisiana.
I'll respond soon, I just had some IRL stuff to take care of the past few couple of days..
by Cybernetic Socialist Republics » Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:51 am
by Louisianan » Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:13 pm
Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:could we get an idea of what undecided voters are looking for?
by Louisianan » Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:55 pm
Deblar wrote:I’m gonna have the unresponsive protester end up dying, Y’know, purely to stir up controversy.
by Louisianan » Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:43 pm
by Deblar » Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:29 pm
Deblar wrote:Complete app
NS Nation Name: Republic of Deblar
Character Name: Howard W. Gayle
Character Gender: male
Character Age: 53
Character Height: 5'11"
Character Weight: 185 lbs.
Character Position/Role/Job:
Utah State Representative (1936-1940)
US Representative for Utah's 2nd District (1940-1944)
Governor of Utah (1944-1952)
Vice President of the United States(1953-present)
Appearance:(Image)
Character State of Origin: Oklahoma
Character State of Residence: Utah
Character Party Affiliation: Republican
Main Strengths: Agrees with President Davis on many issues, Strong Orator, Strong on Domestic Policy, Well liked by Republicans in Congress, open to bipartisanship
Main Weaknesses: Weak on Foreign Policy, Seen by criticizers as President Davis' puppet, Seen by southerners as a 'colored supremacist', not too appealing to minorities, not the strongest on Civil Rights
Biography:
Howard W. Gayle was born on November 2, 1905 in Tulsa, Oklahoma to Heidi and Fred Gayle. At the time of Howard's birth, his mother was a restaurant waitress and his father was an insurance agent. Growing up, Howard showed an interest in reading, something you'd find him doing often when he wasn't helping around the house. He grew up living a pretty normal life until 1914, when war broke out in Europe. When the US joined the war, Howard’s father proudly joined the Army, and met his untimely end in the Benelux.
After the war and the death of his father, Howard struggled with depression, as he and his father were close. He moved to Salt Lake City looking for a job opportunity, and he eventually found one with a local law firm as a legal assistant. He met his future wife, Dorothy Horton, in 1922, and they were married in 1925. After his first son, Franklin, was born in 1925, Howard began to spend more time at home, and began to plan to start his own law firm. Those plans were derailed after the stock market crashed in 1929, however, and after Dorothy lost her job, the Gayle family was suddenly reliant on the government welfare programs of the time. From 1930-1933, the Gayle family was hardly scraping by, but Dorothy was able to find a new job, as well as Howard.
As the Great Depression dragged on, Howard took an interest in politics, paying very close attention to the election of Franklin D. Roosevelt. After his election, Howard supported the New Deal as a way to lift Americans out of poverty, such as his own family, though criticized areas he felt were unnecessary. In 1934, he unsuccessfully ran to represent Utah's 2nd District in the House of Representatives. In 1936, he ran for the Utah State House, a more conservative position for someone like him just getting started in politics, successfully winning his seat. While in the state house, he pushed legislation to create jobs, lower taxes, and reduce state spending, objectives he’d also push for in the US House of Representatives. After a four year term, Howard decided to run for Utah’s 2nd District again, figuring that with more experience on his plate, and with thee success of his agenda to show for it, he’d be more likely to win this time. He knew that he would have to secure the votes of a few democratic swing voters the election. As such, he began communication with Democratic lawmakers within Utah, and promised support for more moderate parts of their agenda. With this, he was able to gain some Democratic swing votes, but he needed more. So, to try and swing more votes in his direction, he also said he'd be transparent with the people of Utah, and pledging bipartisanship, stating in a campaign speech: "I will always be country-and state- over party. I'm not your average Republican. I promise that I will always share the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth to the people of Utah." With his tactics, he was able to earn enough swing votes to win his House seat by a slim margin.
While serving in the House, war broke out in the Pacific, and he supported the fight against Japan, as well as with Germany. Towards the end of Howard’s term, a close friend gave him the idea of running for Utah Governor, a proposition he at first objected to, but after careful consideration, he decided to go along with it. As such, he ran for governor of Utah in 1944, eventually winning the election by continuing his promises of bipartisan and transparency. As governor, he continued to focus on the prosperity of the economy and the creation of jobs, as well as welcoming soldiers back home. Then, towards the 1952 presidential election, he heard that Henry “Pike” Davis was running. He had liked Davis, and at the time he began to long for a higher office, so he began to negotiate behind closed doors with Davis to be his Vice President, should he earn the nomination. Negotiations grew fiercer as the primary approached, and after Davis won and earned the nomination, he added Howard to the ticket.
As the 1952 election went on, he campaigned fiercely for Davis, in one speech calling him “the very definition of American grit and determination”. He and Davis eventually won the election in a landslide, and during their inauguration, Howard said “America made its best decision since the one it made on July 4, 1776”. He carried out his duties as Vice President throughout the term, bringing the final decision on a number of legislative bills that had been tied in voting. Once re-election year came, he fiercely campaigned for him and Davis once again, stating in one campaign speech: “This administration has brought prosperity to America. Keep that prosperity going.”. After re-election was won, he stated in their inauguration “America’s prosperity will now carry on, as decided by the American people”. He continued his duties as Vice President, and now, with election year coming up, he has started to consider running for the Republican nomination, but will not without the blessing of President Davis.
Other Info:
Married with 2 kids and 2 grandchildren; considering a Presidential bid, but won't run without Davis' blessing
I have read and accepted the rules of the roleplay: (Republic of Deblar)
Do Not Remove: 84721
by Louisianan » Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:45 pm
Deblar wrote:Deblar wrote:Complete app
NS Nation Name: Republic of Deblar
Character Name: Howard W. Gayle
Character Gender: male
Character Age: 53
Character Height: 5'11"
Character Weight: 185 lbs.
Character Position/Role/Job:
Utah State Representative (1936-1940)
US Representative for Utah's 2nd District (1940-1944)
Governor of Utah (1944-1952)
Vice President of the United States(1953-present)
Appearance:(Image)
Character State of Origin: Oklahoma
Character State of Residence: Utah
Character Party Affiliation: Republican
Main Strengths: Agrees with President Davis on many issues, Strong Orator, Strong on Domestic Policy, Well liked by Republicans in Congress, open to bipartisanship
Main Weaknesses: Weak on Foreign Policy, Seen by criticizers as President Davis' puppet, Seen by southerners as a 'colored supremacist', not too appealing to minorities, not the strongest on Civil Rights
Biography:
Howard W. Gayle was born on November 2, 1905 in Tulsa, Oklahoma to Heidi and Fred Gayle. At the time of Howard's birth, his mother was a restaurant waitress and his father was an insurance agent. Growing up, Howard showed an interest in reading, something you'd find him doing often when he wasn't helping around the house. He grew up living a pretty normal life until 1914, when war broke out in Europe. When the US joined the war, Howard’s father proudly joined the Army, and met his untimely end in the Benelux.
After the war and the death of his father, Howard struggled with depression, as he and his father were close. He moved to Salt Lake City looking for a job opportunity, and he eventually found one with a local law firm as a legal assistant. He met his future wife, Dorothy Horton, in 1922, and they were married in 1925. After his first son, Franklin, was born in 1925, Howard began to spend more time at home, and began to plan to start his own law firm. Those plans were derailed after the stock market crashed in 1929, however, and after Dorothy lost her job, the Gayle family was suddenly reliant on the government welfare programs of the time. From 1930-1933, the Gayle family was hardly scraping by, but Dorothy was able to find a new job, as well as Howard.
As the Great Depression dragged on, Howard took an interest in politics, paying very close attention to the election of Franklin D. Roosevelt. After his election, Howard supported the New Deal as a way to lift Americans out of poverty, such as his own family, though criticized areas he felt were unnecessary. In 1934, he unsuccessfully ran to represent Utah's 2nd District in the House of Representatives. In 1936, he ran for the Utah State House, a more conservative position for someone like him just getting started in politics, successfully winning his seat. While in the state house, he pushed legislation to create jobs, lower taxes, and reduce state spending, objectives he’d also push for in the US House of Representatives. After a four year term, Howard decided to run for Utah’s 2nd District again, figuring that with more experience on his plate, and with thee success of his agenda to show for it, he’d be more likely to win this time. He knew that he would have to secure the votes of a few democratic swing voters the election. As such, he began communication with Democratic lawmakers within Utah, and promised support for more moderate parts of their agenda. With this, he was able to gain some Democratic swing votes, but he needed more. So, to try and swing more votes in his direction, he also said he'd be transparent with the people of Utah, and pledging bipartisanship, stating in a campaign speech: "I will always be country-and state- over party. I'm not your average Republican. I promise that I will always share the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth to the people of Utah." With his tactics, he was able to earn enough swing votes to win his House seat by a slim margin.
While serving in the House, war broke out in the Pacific, and he supported the fight against Japan, as well as with Germany. Towards the end of Howard’s term, a close friend gave him the idea of running for Utah Governor, a proposition he at first objected to, but after careful consideration, he decided to go along with it. As such, he ran for governor of Utah in 1944, eventually winning the election by continuing his promises of bipartisan and transparency. As governor, he continued to focus on the prosperity of the economy and the creation of jobs, as well as welcoming soldiers back home. Then, towards the 1952 presidential election, he heard that Henry “Pike” Davis was running. He had liked Davis, and at the time he began to long for a higher office, so he began to negotiate behind closed doors with Davis to be his Vice President, should he earn the nomination. Negotiations grew fiercer as the primary approached, and after Davis won and earned the nomination, he added Howard to the ticket.
As the 1952 election went on, he campaigned fiercely for Davis, in one speech calling him “the very definition of American grit and determination”. He and Davis eventually won the election in a landslide, and during their inauguration, Howard said “America made its best decision since the one it made on July 4, 1776”. He carried out his duties as Vice President throughout the term, bringing the final decision on a number of legislative bills that had been tied in voting. Once re-election year came, he fiercely campaigned for him and Davis once again, stating in one campaign speech: “This administration has brought prosperity to America. Keep that prosperity going.”. After re-election was won, he stated in their inauguration “America’s prosperity will now carry on, as decided by the American people”. He continued his duties as Vice President, and now, with election year coming up, he has started to consider running for the Republican nomination, but will not without the blessing of President Davis.
Other Info:
Married with 2 kids and 2 grandchildren; considering a Presidential bid, but won't run without Davis' blessing
I have read and accepted the rules of the roleplay: (Republic of Deblar)
Do Not Remove: 84721
/bump, edited
by Newne Carriebean7 » Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:54 pm
Krugeristan wrote:This is Carrie you're referring to. I'm not going to expect him to do something sane anytime soon. He can take something as simple as a sandwich, and make me never look at sandwiches with a straight face ever again.
Former Carriebeanian president Carol Dartenby sentenced to 4 years hard labor for corruption and mismanagement of state property|Former Carriebeanian president Antrés Depuís sentenced to 3 years in prison for embezzling funds and corruption
by Louisianan » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:29 pm
Newne Carriebean7 wrote:Will there be an article about the Sharp-Fraser debate?
by Louisianan » Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:34 pm
Deblar wrote:Fraser easily won the debate, especially when it came to the issue of race. She ran circles around Sharp when it came to that.
by Newne Carriebean7 » Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:46 pm
Krugeristan wrote:This is Carrie you're referring to. I'm not going to expect him to do something sane anytime soon. He can take something as simple as a sandwich, and make me never look at sandwiches with a straight face ever again.
Former Carriebeanian president Carol Dartenby sentenced to 4 years hard labor for corruption and mismanagement of state property|Former Carriebeanian president Antrés Depuís sentenced to 3 years in prison for embezzling funds and corruption
by Hopal » Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:44 pm
by Louisianan » Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:11 am
by Louisianan » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:14 pm
by Cybernetic Socialist Republics » Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:00 pm
Official Name: Protection of Equal Protection Demonstrations ActNickname: Double Protection Act
Overview: Provides specific protections against efforts to obstruct and/or disrupt demonstrations that primarily advocate the observance of the 14th AmendmentSponsor: Senator Sofia Fraser (R-NY)
Co-Sponsors: (Here is where you put who else supports the bill, do an OOC poll to figure out what other chars would like to hop on!)
Section 1: Recognizing that while the right to protest as a whole is sacred under the First Amendment, recent events have shown that a particular type of protest, that is protests made with purpose of advocating for the full application of the Fourteenth Amendment, have come under recent, violent and organized attack by forces that seek to undermine the Constitution of the United States of America. However, recognizing that many of those who end up participating in such efforts to undermine the constitution are often victims in their own way, this bill is intended to target the leadership and management of these efforts rather than their rank and file.
Section 2: Defines Equal Protection Demonstrations as public protests/events where their primary purpose is the advocacy for the protection and enforcement of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution.
Section 3: Charges those who organize and/or lead efforts with the intent of obstructing and/or disrupting Equal Protection Demonstrations with an offense under Title 18, U.S.C., Section 241, followed by an investigation into other potential illegal activity by the accused.
(a) To aid in the deployment of adequate investigators/observers, petitions can be filled by citizens concerned that a given Equal Protection Demonstration will or has been obstructed or disrupted, which must be processed by the Department of Justice, which may prioritize on the basis of severity and volume of petitions.
(b) Where obstructive and or/disruptive efforts against Equal Protection Demonstrations are leaderless, participants are to be treated as they were organizing and/or leading efforts.
Section 4: Requires local law enforcement to provide adequate security from obstructive and/or disruptive efforts against Equal Protection Demonstrations.
(a) Failure to provide adequate security for Equal Protection Demonstrations, while having the capacity to do so will result in charges under Title 18, U.S.C., Section 241 against those immediately responsible for the failure to provide adequate security.
(b) To ensure the deployment of adequate security, petitions can be filled by citizens concerned that law enforcement local to a demonstration will or has failed to provide adequate security for equal protection demonstrations, which must be processed by the Department of Justice, which may prioritize on the basis of severity and volume of petitions.
(c) Should for whatever reason, adequate security for Equal Protection Demonstrations is not forthcoming, law enforcement external to the jurisdiction of the Equal Protection Demonstration are permitted, but not required to, provide reinforcement and local law enforcement are required to, within reason, cooperate with such efforts, will failure to do so invoking (a) of this section.
(d) Should regular law enforcement not be adequate security for Equal Protection Demonstrations not be forthcoming from local authorities, national guardsmen must be deployed in sufficient numbers to provide adequate security for Equal Protection Demonstrations.
Section 5: Should any section or subsection be stricken, the rest is assumed to be in force as is reasonable.
This bill is then honorably presented to the Senate for consideration in order to protect organizing efforts to defend our constitution to improve the United States Law and is backed by Senator Sofia Fraser.
by Louisianan » Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:10 pm
Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:looking for co-sponsors for this response to the Louisiana situation:(Image)Official Name: Protection of Equal Protection Demonstrations ActNickname: Double Protection Act
Overview: Provides specific protections against efforts to obstruct and/or disrupt demonstrations that primarily advocate the observance of the 14th AmendmentSponsor: Senator Sofia Fraser (R-NY)
Co-Sponsors: (Here is where you put who else supports the bill, do an OOC poll to figure out what other chars would like to hop on!)
Section 1: Recognizing that while the right to protest as a whole is sacred under the First Amendment, recent events have shown that a particular type of protest, that is protests made with purpose of advocating for the full application of the Fourteenth Amendment, have come under recent, violent and organized attack by forces that seek to undermine the Constitution of the United States of America. However, recognizing that many of those who end up participating in such efforts to undermine the constitution are often victims in their own way, this bill is intended to target the leadership and management of these efforts rather than their rank and file.
Section 2: Defines Equal Protection Demonstrations as public protests/events where their primary purpose is the advocacy for the protection and enforcement of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution.
Section 3: Charges those who organize and/or lead efforts with the intent of obstructing and/or disrupting Equal Protection Demonstrations with an offense under Title 18, U.S.C., Section 241, followed by an investigation into other potential illegal activity by the accused.
(a) To aid in the deployment of adequate investigators/observers, petitions can be filled by citizens concerned that a given Equal Protection Demonstration will or has been obstructed or disrupted, which must be processed by the Department of Justice, which may prioritize on the basis of severity and volume of petitions.
(b) Where obstructive and or/disruptive efforts against Equal Protection Demonstrations are leaderless, participants are to be treated as they were organizing and/or leading efforts.
Section 4: Requires local law enforcement to provide adequate security from obstructive and/or disruptive efforts against Equal Protection Demonstrations.
(a) Failure to provide adequate security for Equal Protection Demonstrations, while having the capacity to do so will result in charges under Title 18, U.S.C., Section 241 against those immediately responsible for the failure to provide adequate security.
(b) To ensure the deployment of adequate security, petitions can be filled by citizens concerned that local law enforcement will or has failed to provide adequate security for Equal Protection Demonstrations, which must be processed by the Department of Justice, which may prioritize on the basis of severity and volume of petitions.
(c) Should for whatever reason, adequate security for Equal Protection Demonstrations is not forthcoming, law enforcement external to the jurisdiction of the Equal Protection Demonstration are permitted, but not required to, provide reinforcement and local law enforcement are required to, within reason, cooperate with such efforts, will failure to do so invoking (a) of this section.
(d) Should regular law enforcement not be adequate security for Equal Protection Demonstrations not be forthcoming from local authorities, national guardsmen must be deployed in sufficient numbers to provide adequate security for Equal Protection Demonstrations.
Section 5: Should any section or subsection be stricken, the rest is assumed to be in force as is reasonable.
This bill is then honorably presented to the Senate for consideration in order to protect organizing efforts to defend our constitution to improve the United States Law and is backed by Senator Sofia Fraser.
by Cybernetic Socialist Republics » Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:15 pm
Louisianan wrote:Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:looking for co-sponsors for this response to the Louisiana situation:(Image)Official Name: Protection of Equal Protection Demonstrations ActNickname: Double Protection Act
Overview: Provides specific protections against efforts to obstruct and/or disrupt demonstrations that primarily advocate the observance of the 14th AmendmentSponsor: Senator Sofia Fraser (R-NY)
Co-Sponsors: (Here is where you put who else supports the bill, do an OOC poll to figure out what other chars would like to hop on!)
Section 1: Recognizing that while the right to protest as a whole is sacred under the First Amendment, recent events have shown that a particular type of protest, that is protests made with purpose of advocating for the full application of the Fourteenth Amendment, have come under recent, violent and organized attack by forces that seek to undermine the Constitution of the United States of America. However, recognizing that many of those who end up participating in such efforts to undermine the constitution are often victims in their own way, this bill is intended to target the leadership and management of these efforts rather than their rank and file.
Section 2: Defines Equal Protection Demonstrations as public protests/events where their primary purpose is the advocacy for the protection and enforcement of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution.
Section 3: Charges those who organize and/or lead efforts with the intent of obstructing and/or disrupting Equal Protection Demonstrations with an offense under Title 18, U.S.C., Section 241, followed by an investigation into other potential illegal activity by the accused.
(a) To aid in the deployment of adequate investigators/observers, petitions can be filled by citizens concerned that a given Equal Protection Demonstration will or has been obstructed or disrupted, which must be processed by the Department of Justice, which may prioritize on the basis of severity and volume of petitions.
(b) Where obstructive and or/disruptive efforts against Equal Protection Demonstrations are leaderless, participants are to be treated as they were organizing and/or leading efforts.
Section 4: Requires local law enforcement to provide adequate security from obstructive and/or disruptive efforts against Equal Protection Demonstrations.
(a) Failure to provide adequate security for Equal Protection Demonstrations, while having the capacity to do so will result in charges under Title 18, U.S.C., Section 241 against those immediately responsible for the failure to provide adequate security.
(b) To ensure the deployment of adequate security, petitions can be filled by citizens concerned that local law enforcement will or has failed to provide adequate security for Equal Protection Demonstrations, which must be processed by the Department of Justice, which may prioritize on the basis of severity and volume of petitions.
(c) Should for whatever reason, adequate security for Equal Protection Demonstrations is not forthcoming, law enforcement external to the jurisdiction of the Equal Protection Demonstration are permitted, but not required to, provide reinforcement and local law enforcement are required to, within reason, cooperate with such efforts, will failure to do so invoking (a) of this section.
(d) Should regular law enforcement not be adequate security for Equal Protection Demonstrations not be forthcoming from local authorities, national guardsmen must be deployed in sufficient numbers to provide adequate security for Equal Protection Demonstrations.
Section 5: Should any section or subsection be stricken, the rest is assumed to be in force as is reasonable.
This bill is then honorably presented to the Senate for consideration in order to protect organizing efforts to defend our constitution to improve the United States Law and is backed by Senator Sofia Fraser.
Quick note, just so you know, you put 'citizens' as well as 'local law enforcement' meaning that if the law passes, only citizens of a territory may petition about the local law enforcement. In most cases, such as the one in NOLA, protestors came from out of state, meaning that the petitions would be in void, correct?
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