I was taking the piss mate
Advertisement
by Latvijas Otra Republika » Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:07 am
by Deblar » Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:12 am
Free Ward Marchers wrote:we really need more liberal democrats, and conservative republicans. also we still need leadership positions such as speaker, vice president, majority leader ect.
by Cybernetic Socialist Republics » Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:33 am
Zohiania wrote:Warszawski will not support any bill that increases the minimum wage
by Sao Nova Europa » Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:02 pm
Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:Here is a more free market friendly yet more comprehensive alternative to the PROGRESS Act, liberals, conservatives, republicans and democrats all welcome to co-sponser.(Image)Official Name: Federal Relief Ensuring Entrepreneurialism ActNickname: FREE Act
Overview: This legislation is intended to, while decreasing bureaucracy and remaining balance-neutral, address the chronic poverty experienced by millions within these United States while encouraging and aiding in their self improvement within the context of free markets and free enterprise. It accomplishes this through the creation of a Federal Minimum Income Program and an Employment Education System. This legislation additionally seeks to relieve the burden of wage price controls on unemployed people unable to find work, small businesses who are driven into stagnation or closure and the lower income individual's who's consumption disproportionately consists of those products negatively effected by wage price controls, by simultaneously phasing out the federal minimum wage as redundant.Sponsor: Senator Sofia Fraser (R-NY)
Co-Sponsors:
Section 1: The story of American prosperity has been the story of free individuals exchanging goods and services with each other through the mechanism of the market and freedom of enterprise. Yet, despite the free market organization of the economy, the great depression taught us that a failure of government to provide a means for the less fortunate to be insulated by fluctuations in the market can lead to immense suffering and freedom harming strife. The federal government therefore, must to provide the best possible means to ensure the maximum possible freedom of markets and enterprise, so individuals may reach the highest heights and lift the nation with them, while also protecting the citizenry from the lowest lows. In response to the great depression, a web of well meaning, though tangled programs were implemented to provide economic security. However, this tangled web has unnecessarily increased the size of the federal bureaucracy and has lead to an unnecessary degree of central planning by the government, something that has the tendency to pull nations toward tyranny. We must, therefore implement a remedy to this conundrum that is most compatible with American ideals of freedom of free markets and free enterprise.
Section 2: Establishes a Federal Minimum Income Program, paying all citizens either employed or in education for the purpose of future employment, with an income below the poverty line or sufficiently close to the poverty line, payments to bring them above it, with a gradual phase out intended to preserve the pursuance of higher incomes.
Section 3: Rolls redundant welfare programs into the expenditure of the Federal Minimum Income Program, while phasing out the federally mandated minimum wage gradually over the course of the first year of the implementation of the Federal Minimum Income Program.
(a) Converts existing federal unemployment insurance expenditures into funds for a Employment Education System tasked with providing education to unemployed individuals for the purpose of gainful employment.
Section 4: Additional funding for this plan to make it balance-neutral is to be procured by an adjustment of the federal income tax that maintains the current income level distribution of the burden of taxation.
This bill is then honorably presented to the Senate for consideration in order to change welfare and anti-poverty measures to improve the United States Law and is backed by Sofia Fraser.
by Dalmannia » Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:30 pm
by Sao Nova Europa » Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:42 pm
Dalmannia wrote:Deblar wrote:Brown Jr. could be considered one, but he's not in office yet
Well in that column, I believe we’ve also got Juan Matamoros, Richard Douglas, Floyd Lahde, William Oswald, Elmer Stevens and Thomas Stoltzman. Currently the liberals in the House don’t seem to be putting up much of a fight against that one Dixiecrat, which is troubling, but I’d say we’ve still got a few significant individuals who could contest the segregationists in the upcoming elections (hopefully without absolutely fracturing the party). Otherwise, we might see a migration towards the GOP.
by Cybernetic Socialist Republics » Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:43 pm
Sao Nova Europa wrote:Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:Here is a more free market friendly yet more comprehensive alternative to the PROGRESS Act, liberals, conservatives, republicans and democrats all welcome to co-sponser.(Image)Official Name: Federal Relief Ensuring Entrepreneurialism ActNickname: FREE Act
Overview: This legislation is intended to, while decreasing bureaucracy and remaining balance-neutral, address the chronic poverty experienced by millions within these United States while encouraging and aiding in their self improvement within the context of free markets and free enterprise. It accomplishes this through the creation of a Federal Minimum Income Program and an Employment Education System. This legislation additionally seeks to relieve the burden of wage price controls on unemployed people unable to find work, small businesses who are driven into stagnation or closure and the lower income individual's who's consumption disproportionately consists of those products negatively effected by wage price controls, by simultaneously phasing out the federal minimum wage as redundant.Sponsor: Senator Sofia Fraser (R-NY)
Co-Sponsors:
Section 1: The story of American prosperity has been the story of free individuals exchanging goods and services with each other through the mechanism of the market and freedom of enterprise. Yet, despite the free market organization of the economy, the great depression taught us that a failure of government to provide a means for the less fortunate to be insulated by fluctuations in the market can lead to immense suffering and freedom harming strife. The federal government therefore, must to provide the best possible means to ensure the maximum possible freedom of markets and enterprise, so individuals may reach the highest heights and lift the nation with them, while also protecting the citizenry from the lowest lows. In response to the great depression, a web of well meaning, though tangled programs were implemented to provide economic security. However, this tangled web has unnecessarily increased the size of the federal bureaucracy and has lead to an unnecessary degree of central planning by the government, something that has the tendency to pull nations toward tyranny. We must, therefore implement a remedy to this conundrum that is most compatible with American ideals of freedom of free markets and free enterprise.
Section 2: Establishes a Federal Minimum Income Program, paying all citizens either employed or in education for the purpose of future employment, with an income below the poverty line or sufficiently close to the poverty line, payments to bring them above it, with a gradual phase out intended to preserve the pursuance of higher incomes.
Section 3: Rolls redundant welfare programs into the expenditure of the Federal Minimum Income Program, while phasing out the federally mandated minimum wage gradually over the course of the first year of the implementation of the Federal Minimum Income Program.
(a) Converts existing federal unemployment insurance expenditures into funds for a Employment Education System tasked with providing education to unemployed individuals for the purpose of gainful employment.
Section 4: Additional funding for this plan to make it balance-neutral is to be procured by an adjustment of the federal income tax that maintains the current income level distribution of the burden of taxation.
This bill is then honorably presented to the Senate for consideration in order to change welfare and anti-poverty measures to improve the United States Law and is backed by Sofia Fraser.
Jackson could give it his political support/blessing (not vote, since he ain't in Congress), but he would require for this program to replace some of the current welfare programs rather than being funded by tax hike.
by Newne Carriebean7 » Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:45 pm
Krugeristan wrote:This is Carrie you're referring to. I'm not going to expect him to do something sane anytime soon. He can take something as simple as a sandwich, and make me never look at sandwiches with a straight face ever again.
Former Carriebeanian president Carol Dartenby sentenced to 4 years hard labor for corruption and mismanagement of state property|Former Carriebeanian president Antrés Depuís sentenced to 3 years in prison for embezzling funds and corruption
by Sao Nova Europa » Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:54 pm
Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:Sao Nova Europa wrote:
Jackson could give it his political support/blessing (not vote, since he ain't in Congress), but he would require for this program to replace some of the current welfare programs rather than being funded by tax hike.
I mean, could probably make the language clearer, but this is intended to replace all federal welfare (I don't consider social security to be welfare, though.)
by Cybernetic Socialist Republics » Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:52 pm
Sao Nova Europa wrote:Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:
I mean, could probably make the language clearer, but this is intended to replace all federal welfare (I don't consider social security to be welfare, though.)
Jackson will give his blessings then. Speaking of which, Jackson could also have a discussion with Governor Fraser too. He should give a call when he can.
by Sao Nova Europa » Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:02 pm
Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:Sao Nova Europa wrote:
Jackson will give his blessings then. Speaking of which, Jackson could also have a discussion with Governor Fraser too. He should give a call when he can.
Yeah, Governor Fraser would give him a call upon hearing of him endorse Senator Fraser's proposal.
Any how, the theory with the tax increases is that any that might have to happen would still be a net improvement for the private sector due to the FREE Act funding it's self with previously existing welfare programs, and doing away with the minimum wage (modified now to be at all levels after a year of the program).
the provision to increase taxes is just there to make it sure it doesn't have a net effect on the budget, but realistically if that's still a deal breaker for Jackson, Sofia would drop it to get the endorsement.
by Flowerdell » Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:27 pm
by Sao Nova Europa » Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:30 pm
Flowerdell wrote:Watching House Liberals "trade" with ideas the literal Nazi's threw around a decade and a half ago is certainly....something.
by Hopal » Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:35 pm
Flowerdell wrote:Watching House Liberals "trade" with ideas the literal Nazi's threw around a decade and a half ago is certainly....something.
by Flowerdell » Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:39 pm
Sao Nova Europa wrote:Flowerdell wrote:Watching House Liberals "trade" with ideas the literal Nazi's threw around a decade and a half ago is certainly....something.
You can always join the GOP. I mean, lower taxes, better management of government programs and an anti-communist foreign policy should be an easier thing to swallow than Nazi Dixiecrat bills.
by Cybernetic Socialist Republics » Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:41 pm
by Newne Carriebean7 » Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:43 pm
Sao Nova Europa wrote:Flowerdell wrote:Watching House Liberals "trade" with ideas the literal Nazi's threw around a decade and a half ago is certainly....something.
You can always join the GOP. I mean, lower taxes, better management of government programs and an anti-communist foreign policy should be an easier thing to swallow than Nazi Dixiecrat bills.
Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:I personally invite all senate liberals to cross the floor to the GOP.
Krugeristan wrote:This is Carrie you're referring to. I'm not going to expect him to do something sane anytime soon. He can take something as simple as a sandwich, and make me never look at sandwiches with a straight face ever again.
Former Carriebeanian president Carol Dartenby sentenced to 4 years hard labor for corruption and mismanagement of state property|Former Carriebeanian president Antrés Depuís sentenced to 3 years in prison for embezzling funds and corruption
by Sao Nova Europa » Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:44 pm
Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:I personally invite all senate liberals to cross the floor to the GOP.
by Flowerdell » Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:51 pm
Newne Carriebean7 wrote:Sao Nova Europa wrote:
You can always join the GOP. I mean, lower taxes, better management of government programs and an anti-communist foreign policy should be an easier thing to swallow than Nazi Dixiecrat bills.
No, join Sharp's in the works third party of CARP.
It's for state's rights, racism and mostly involves giving money to Mississippi and the Deep South.mayor may not be a ponzi scheme.Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:I personally invite all senate liberals to cross the floor to the GOP.
Sure, get them outta the Democratic Party, let the Dixiecrats manage the Democratic Party, we'll take good care of the coloreds...
*evil laugher from Senator Sharp*
by Deblar » Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:59 pm
Flowerdell wrote:Newne Carriebean7 wrote:No, join Sharp's in the works third party of CARP.
It's for state's rights, racism and mostly involves giving money to Mississippi and the Deep South.mayor may not be a ponzi scheme.
Sure, get them outta the Democratic Party, let the Dixiecrats manage the Democratic Party, we'll take good care of the coloreds...
*evil laugher from Senator Sharp*
The Dixiecrats form their own party, and the liberal northern democrats form their own party. Now that would be a recipe for disaster.
by Dalmannia » Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:06 pm
Sao Nova Europa wrote:Flowerdell wrote:Watching House Liberals "trade" with ideas the literal Nazi's threw around a decade and a half ago is certainly....something.
You can always join the GOP. I mean, lower taxes, better management of government programs and an anti-communist foreign policy should be an easier thing to swallow than Nazi Dixiecrat bills.
by Sao Nova Europa » Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:08 pm
Dalmannia wrote:Sao Nova Europa wrote:
You can always join the GOP. I mean, lower taxes, better management of government programs and an anti-communist foreign policy should be an easier thing to swallow than Nazi Dixiecrat bills.
The real tests of the liberal wing of the Democratic Party at this point may be whether they are able to 1) Stick to their ideals in Congress instead of trying to achieve legislative success through realpolitik alliances with the segregationists, 2) Defeat Sharp or Boone in the primaries, 3) Win the election, assuming they’re able to defeat any Dixiecrats in the primary.
If they can’t meaningfully stand up against the segregationist wing of the party or find substantial success themselves over the next year, many liberals and moderates may as well join the GOP.
by Flowerdell » Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:13 pm
Sao Nova Europa wrote:Dalmannia wrote:The real tests of the liberal wing of the Democratic Party at this point may be whether they are able to 1) Stick to their ideals in Congress instead of trying to achieve legislative success through realpolitik alliances with the segregationists, 2) Defeat Sharp or Boone in the primaries, 3) Win the election, assuming they’re able to defeat any Dixiecrats in the primary.
If they can’t meaningfully stand up against the segregationist wing of the party or find substantial success themselves over the next year, many liberals and moderates may as well join the GOP.
I wonder how conservative Republicans will react to this. Of course, so far the conservatives on the Republican side tend to be conservative primarily on fiscal and foreign policy issues, so a compromise between conservatives and liberals should be easier to achieve than a compromise between Dixiecrats and liberals.
by Dalmannia » Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:17 pm
Sao Nova Europa wrote:Dalmannia wrote:The real tests of the liberal wing of the Democratic Party at this point may be whether they are able to 1) Stick to their ideals in Congress instead of trying to achieve legislative success through realpolitik alliances with the segregationists, 2) Defeat Sharp or Boone in the primaries, 3) Win the election, assuming they’re able to defeat any Dixiecrats in the primary.
If they can’t meaningfully stand up against the segregationist wing of the party or find substantial success themselves over the next year, many liberals and moderates may as well join the GOP.
I wonder how conservative Republicans will react to this. Of course, so far the conservatives on the Republican side tend to be conservative primarily on fiscal and foreign policy issues, so a compromise between conservatives and liberals should be easier to achieve than a compromise between Dixiecrats and liberals.
Advertisement
Return to Portal to the Multiverse
Users browsing this forum: Chewion, Cylarn, Google [Bot], Socalist Republic Of Mercenaries, Tracian Empire
Advertisement