A Country In Chaos (Civil War Character RP) [OOC|OPEN]

[The Hindustani State]

I noticed a glooming disparity with this RP’s roster; the vast majority of characters in this RP are high-ranking army COs, with brigades and entire divisions at their disposal, and whilst there are a few characters commanders with relatively small units, as well as some individuals who don’t (officially) lead any troops at all, I’m not sure what the ideal leadership position would be. Is there a “preferred” or otherwise recommended unit size?

The character concept I had brewing was about a troop leader with some armoured forces, but I’ve yet to fully make up my mind on what I want to do here.

We don’t have as many political leaders, and in a civil war, there’s always the dichotomy of the military and the political side of things

[The Hindustani State]

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[Vrijstaat Limburg]

I noticed a glooming disparity with this RP’s roster; the vast majority of characters in this RP are high-ranking army COs, with brigades and entire divisions at their disposal, and whilst there are a few characters commanders with relatively small units, as well as some individuals who don’t (officially) lead any troops at all, I’m not sure what the ideal leadership position would be. Is there a “preferred” or otherwise recommended unit size?

The character concept I had brewing was about a troop leader with some armoured forces, but I’ve yet to fully make up my mind on what I want to do here.

We don’t have as many political leaders, and in a civil war, there’s always the dichotomy of the military and the political side of things

Would you say so? I’d argue that the lines between military allegiance and political allegiance can get extremely blurry in times like these. The fact that the Republic has become a de-facto military junta, or that the increasing popularity of the monachist/conservative ideology in the Southwest is leading to an increase in monarchist recruitment in that area, are prime examples of military affairs influencing national politics or vice versa.

In war, each military course of action is political, as it risks the lives of the sons of the nation, much like every political decision is military, as it could either be categorized as supportive to the war effort or detrimental to the war effort.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

We don’t have as many political leaders, and in a civil war, there’s always the dichotomy of the military and the political side of things

Would you say so? I’d argue that the lines between military allegiance and political allegiance can get extremely blurry in times like these. The fact that the Republic has become a de-facto military junta, or that the increasing popularity of the monachist/conservative ideology in the Southwest is leading to an increase in monarchist recruitment in that area, are prime examples of military affairs influencing national politics or vice versa.

In war, each military course of action is political, as it risks the lives of the sons of the nation, much like every political decision is military, as it could either be categorized as supportive to the war effort or detrimental to the war effort.

Yeah, but there is still a dichotomy, although there is a lot of mixing as well. There are internal struggles and various different goals different politicians want to achieve. All the while, the military wants to win the war, like they have been trained to do. But the ideology of the politicians and the attitude of the military might clash at times. For the communist, the ideals of elected officers, for example, might clash with the military commanders wanting direct control over the conduct of the war. Meanwhile, the monarchists might want to conform to the wishes of their king as supreme commander, but he might not be a competent commander. In the Republic, the High Command makes more and more important decisions, circumventing the elected parliament. And finally, fascism is a pragmatic and power-hungry ideology, so there you simply get the clash between various individuals looking for short-term gains for themselves and their cronies. So, I would say, there is still a dichotomy, even if they are mixing more and more.

That reminds me, I am going to include the Rump Parliament in my next post...

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Who wants a lesson in VALANIAN ARCHITECTURAL HISTORY?

Thought as much.

[Herador]

I'm having a lot if trouble getting started, I'm speed rereading Westerby's sections from The Honourable Schoolboy for inspiration.

Who wants a lesson in VALANIAN ARCHITECTURAL HISTORY?

Thought as much.

Unironically blessed me with that post, thank you.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

I'm having a lot if trouble getting started, I'm speed rereading Westerby's sections from The Honourable Schoolboy for inspiration.

Who wants a lesson in VALANIAN ARCHITECTURAL HISTORY?

Thought as much.

Unironically blessed me with that post, thank you.

Thank you, that is very kind.

[Cylarn]

Allow me to reiterate: I indicated in the beginning that the bridge was demolished in such a way that it would require a whole new top layer to be installed so that men could move across. This means that the Communists would have to go through the lengthy process of adding an improvised bridge on the few struts and supports that were left. Their tactic, as I indicated at the beginning, was to construct a wooden bridge from logs, put it on the bed of a flatbed truck and slowly back it up until it's resting on the ruins of the middle column and across the river, with the end of the wooden bridge resting on top of the ruins of the ramp on the other side. During the first air attack, that improvised bridge was targeted and destroyed. The officer overseeing the infantry was targeted and killed, and any movement by the engineers to work under the heat of battle would bring a high volume of fire onto them.

Without the bridge, the only way to guarantee even a remote amount of safety in a crossing is to secure ropes at a four-foot height across to the other side, so that soldiers have something to hold onto as they cross the flow. Without it, the human wave has to charge across the river - four feet deep and however many across - to get to the Republicans. Unless six-hundred men can run across water like in Pirates of the Caribbean, they will have to wade right down the middle of the river into the clear line of sight of the Republican positions: a veritable kill zone for a mass of allegedly six-hundred men. From my perspective, the three companies that were there initially, positioned on the shore, were well within the effective range of not only every small arm on the Republic, but the planes and mortars which have had fire superiority ever since the Communist guns were eliminated.

In regards to what I interpreted as a human wave, that is a humongous mess to be in charge of, regardless if they are wading through the river or crossing an imaginative bridge. If they are doing the latter, a single belt-fed gun could easily get a bead chest-level on the men coming across, while units on the opposite sides of the bridge can adjust their fire. Since only the front guys on the bridge can fire at the Republicans in front of them, other soldiers would either have to stop mid-way and pop off a few rounds, or just continue charging forwards until they make it to the front of the formation. With the latter, the guys in front are getting hit and falling down in front of the guys behind them, making it increasingly difficult to run or walk over the pile of corpses in front of them. That would even be the case with a solid, wide bridge and men just running forward to engage the enemy at close range.

If they are charging the river, which I believe to be their only immediate pathway to directly reaching the Republican lines, then the only way for the Communists to cross the river would be by wading through it, one way or another. If a human wave of six-hundred men is charging across a river at a similarly-numbered force that has established itself to get as many weapons downrange as possible, it's a flagrant waste of life at best, to have them charging into a river against dug-in positions - most of which are actively engaging them. Each man has his gear load, and four feet of actively flowing river to contend with. They are moving slowly, vulnerable and open enough to get caught. Anyone lucky enough to actually make it across the river to the Republican shores would be an easy, open target for a plinking by a soldier and his rifle. There would be a decent-enough amount of time for aircraft to engage without risking a friendly fire incident.

To wrap up my tangent, I find it impossible for the Communists to accomplish their objective of closing in and storming the Republican lines, or to even cross the river without having to immediately give up whatever ground they managed to take up. I'm not saying that the Communist mortars or gunfire gave my side of the Nyfir a wallop, but they are nowhere near being so combat-ineffective that a human wave or a massed charge can cross a flowing river and open ground to storm their positions. The way I see it, the Communists have exposed themselves to the Republican killzone, and judging by this and the past events of the engagement, I would say that most of the soldiers participating are either killed or wounded before they can make it to the other side, and their force is combat-ineffective in the best case, and almost annihilated in the worst case.

[The Hindustani State]

The communist move to cross the river without a bridge is basically suicide, this will definitely not end well for them

[Bolslania]

The communist move to cross the river without a bridge is basically suicide, this will definitely not end well for them

Yeah I had stated in previous posts that the engineers had put up something of a "bridge" mostly composing of walkways for the engineers to move across.

I'm mostly basing my tactics around Soviet style fighting tactics, otherwise I would have ceded the field a long time ago.

[The Hindustani State]

The communist move to cross the river without a bridge is basically suicide, this will definitely not end well for them

Yeah I had stated in previous posts that the engineers had put up something of a "bridge" mostly composing of walkways for the engineers to move across.

I'm mostly basing my tactics around Soviet style fighting tactics, otherwise I would have ceded the field a long time ago.

I would assume such bridge has been quickly destroyed by the Republican forces, right now you’re basically marching troops through a river with hostile forces on the other side. You’ll have to take heavy casualties and probably retreat now

[Bolslania]

Yeah I had stated in previous posts that the engineers had put up something of a "bridge" mostly composing of walkways for the engineers to move across.

I'm mostly basing my tactics around Soviet style fighting tactics, otherwise I would have ceded the field a long time ago.

I would assume such bridge has been quickly destroyed by the Republican forces, right now you’re basically marching troops through a river with hostile forces on the other side. You’ll have to take heavy casualties and probably retreat now

Its possible the bridge took some damage from the mortars, although Cylarn stated specifically that the mortars were hitting the infantry

Although I agree that I will inevitably have to retreat with heavy casualties

[Bolslania]

Allow me to reiterate: I indicated in the beginning that the bridge was demolished in such a way that it would require a whole new top layer to be installed so that men could move across. This means that the Communists would have to go through the lengthy process of adding an improvised bridge on the few struts and supports that were left. Their tactic, as I indicated at the beginning, was to construct a wooden bridge from logs, put it on the bed of a flatbed truck and slowly back it up until it's resting on the ruins of the middle column and across the river, with the end of the wooden bridge resting on top of the ruins of the ramp on the other side. During the first air attack, that improvised bridge was targeted and destroyed. The officer overseeing the infantry was targeted and killed, and any movement by the engineers to work under the heat of battle would bring a high volume of fire onto them.

Without the bridge, the only way to guarantee even a remote amount of safety in a crossing is to secure ropes at a four-foot height across to the other side, so that soldiers have something to hold onto as they cross the flow. Without it, the human wave has to charge across the river - four feet deep and however many across - to get to the Republicans. Unless six-hundred men can run across water like in Pirates of the Caribbean, they will have to wade right down the middle of the river into the clear line of sight of the Republican positions: a veritable kill zone for a mass of allegedly six-hundred men. From my perspective, the three companies that were there initially, positioned on the shore, were well within the effective range of not only every small arm on the Republic, but the planes and mortars which have had fire superiority ever since the Communist guns were eliminated.

In regards to what I interpreted as a human wave, that is a humongous mess to be in charge of, regardless if they are wading through the river or crossing an imaginative bridge. If they are doing the latter, a single belt-fed gun could easily get a bead chest-level on the men coming across, while units on the opposite sides of the bridge can adjust their fire. Since only the front guys on the bridge can fire at the Republicans in front of them, other soldiers would either have to stop mid-way and pop off a few rounds, or just continue charging forwards until they make it to the front of the formation. With the latter, the guys in front are getting hit and falling down in front of the guys behind them, making it increasingly difficult to run or walk over the pile of corpses in front of them. That would even be the case with a solid, wide bridge and men just running forward to engage the enemy at close range.

If they are charging the river, which I believe to be their only immediate pathway to directly reaching the Republican lines, then the only way for the Communists to cross the river would be by wading through it, one way or another. If a human wave of six-hundred men is charging across a river at a similarly-numbered force that has established itself to get as many weapons downrange as possible, it's a flagrant waste of life at best, to have them charging into a river against dug-in positions - most of which are actively engaging them. Each man has his gear load, and four feet of actively flowing river to contend with. They are moving slowly, vulnerable and open enough to get caught. Anyone lucky enough to actually make it across the river to the Republican shores would be an easy, open target for a plinking by a soldier and his rifle. There would be a decent-enough amount of time for aircraft to engage without risking a friendly fire incident.

To wrap up my tangent, I find it impossible for the Communists to accomplish their objective of closing in and storming the Republican lines, or to even cross the river without having to immediately give up whatever ground they managed to take up. I'm not saying that the Communist mortars or gunfire gave my side of the Nyfir a wallop, but they are nowhere near being so combat-ineffective that a human wave or a massed charge can cross a flowing river and open ground to storm their positions. The way I see it, the Communists have exposed themselves to the Republican killzone, and judging by this and the past events of the engagement, I would say that most of the soldiers participating are either killed or wounded before they can make it to the other side, and their force is combat-ineffective in the best case, and almost annihilated in the worst case.

Somehow I missed this post, I'll edit

[Tayner]

Character Application

Name: Drago Smolensky
Age: 27
Personality description: A humble man who takes care for those he works with and is responsible for.
Appearance:

Faction: The Republic
Position in leadership: Captain, F. En. Co.
If Military or Militia leader, how many troops under command?: 169
Political Ideology: Netural

Goals: End the war, come home alive, bring his men home alive.

Biography: Born in 1914, Drago's parents were both anti monarchists, and he could remember his parents celebrating the fall of the monarchy every year on it's anniversary as he grew up. Drago never really understood the significance, and tried to live a normal life, but during the communist's reign of terror, his parents found themselves executed as political prisoners. Drago would join the republic's army, wanting to defend his home and honor his parents. While not politically motivated, he wanted to see an end to the war and he wanted to be part of it.

He would train as an engineer, and become an officer. After a few years of service, he would be promoted to Captain, and would lead an engineering company through the strifes of the nation as it's political powers clashed. He's watched men desert, men blindly sign up, and die for political beliefs, while he tries to lead them through battle and bring them home alive for his own beliefs. As an engineer, he's lead his men through minefields, emplaced obstacles, and across rivers, helping pave the way for larger units. His company has been assigned to Brigadier Kalwa's Brigade to support their mission on the front.

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[Ithalian Empire]

Character Application

Name: Borslaw Pivka
Age: 32, Born March the 12th, 1909 in the village of Svepan, ten kilometers southwest of the City of Bretslow, Eastern Valania.
Personality description: A calm, methodical man who works well under pressure. Borslaw is known to be a soft spoken man who makes sure each and every one of his words has worth. This has
Appearance: A stern, chiseled, square jaw with a medium length beard of wiry hair. His eyes are a sharp green, above them rest two large eyebrows and above that a head of short cut brown hair. He stand around 6 foot 2 inches and weights around 220 pounds.

Faction (Either member of or sympathetic towards): Republican by necessity, what he does he does for his family and the families of his men.
Position in leadership (if any): Borslaw was elected to lead the Bretlow Volunteer Rifles Brigade.
If Military or Militia leader, how many troops under command?: Around 650 men split into six 100 man rifle companies and a 50 man headquarters brigade.
Political Ideology: Borslaw is a man of few political convictions, he would fight his own war against the communist, fascist and the monarchists if he had to, all he cares about is keeping those he volunteered to protect safe.

Goals: Keep the towns of Bretlow safe and kill as many communists as he can.

Biography (Minimum 2 paragraphs):
In his own words:

Before there was a republic there was the monarchy, and my family started out as nothing more than serfs tide to the land. My ancestors where tied to the land the tilled and were nothing more than property to the local lord. Eventually that feudal system would be phased out as the king would consolidate his power over the nobility and the common folk. One of my great grandfathers must have distinguished himself over the rest of the unwashed masses and was given the right to homestead a few acres of land. And so the men who were once the property of the dirt where given leave to own some of it in turn. Of course my family has fought in every war Valania has fought in, but never in the great and noble pursuit of being a commissioned officer. I believe my Great-Grandfather served with decoration in the War of the Broken Lance.

My family had once believed that it was the grace of the king through God who gave us all that was good in our life. Than the war came, before the Reveloution. I was only a small boy back than but I remember my father marching off to join the fighting along with my uncles. Just like all my ancestors before them. He never marched back home. Nor did his brother nor did so many of our villages men. Then the war ended. And nothing was gained. All that blood and suffering, I never new why everyone in the village was so angry, but I understood the sadness. Than the Revolution of 1919 occurred, the kind who had betrayed us was over thrown and Zukal was elected president.

Of course being a young boy I was more concerned with tending the fields with my brothers and the other village men, the usual monotony of village life in rural Valania. And that continued unabated for many years. I married a girl from our village named Otylia. Zukal had died two years before and Jeraback had been president for two years. This was a tough time for us. Food prices soared, and even though we grew our own food things were tough. In 1928, a year after our marriage God saw fit to gift us with a boy, I named him after my father, Benedykt.

Than came the rule of the communists. Communist forces moved into the country side after the election seeing Bretlow as a opposition strong hold. It was a bloody and scary time. I sent my wife and young son to live with my brother in near by Krikow while me and the rest of the men plotted our own revelation. We gathered arms and ammo, stashing them in the fields and in barns. We would ambush communists on street corners, bomb the constables office. Anything to let them know the men of Bretlow where not so easily cowed. Than the '39 election. The protests, the massacres. It was open war now. Some 600 men met in Bretlow from the surrounding villages and we formed the Bretlow Volunteers. Our first action was kicking the pro communist military garrison, there I distinguished my self as a leader of men storming the garrison walls. after securing the arms an ammunition of the garrison we held election for who would lead us.

I never would have dreamed that it would be me who would win the election, but here I am. My men and I are currently marching west towards to front at the Balerian.
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[The Hindustani State]

Character Application

Name: Borslaw Pivka
Age: 32, Born March the 12th, 1909 in the village of Svepan, ten kilometers southwest of the City of Bretslow, Eastern Valania.
Personality description: A calm, methodical man who works well under pressure. Borslaw is known to be a soft spoken man who makes sure each and every one of his words has worth. This has
Appearance: A stern, chiseled, square jaw with a medium length beard of wiry hair. His eyes are a sharp green, above them rest two large eyebrows and above that a head of short cut brown hair. He stand around 6 foot 2 inches and weights around 220 pounds.

Faction (Either member of or sympathetic towards): Republican by necessity, what he does he does for his family and the families of his men.
Position in leadership (if any): Borslaw was elected to lead the Bretlow Volunteer Rifles Brigade.
If Military or Militia leader, how many troops under command?: Around 650 men split into six 100 man rifle companies and a 50 man headquarters brigade.
Political Ideology: Borslaw is a man of few political convictions, he would fight his own war against the communist, fascist and the monarchists if he had to, all he cares about is keeping those he volunteered to protect safe.

Goals: Keep the towns of Bretlow safe and kill as many communists as he can.

Biography (Minimum 2 paragraphs):
In his own words:

Before there was a republic there was the monarchy, and my family started out as nothing more than serfs tide to the land. My ancestors where tied to the land the tilled and were nothing more than property to the local lord. Eventually that feudal system would be phased out as the king would consolidate his power over the nobility and the common folk. One of my great grandfathers must have distinguished himself over the rest of the unwashed masses and was given the right to homestead a few acres of land. And so the men who were once the property of the dirt where given leave to own some of it in turn. Of course my family has fought in every war Valania has fought in, but never in the great and noble pursuit of being a commissioned officer. I believe my Great-Grandfather served with decoration in the War of the Broken Lance.

My family had once believed that it was the grace of the king through God who gave us all that was good in our life. Than the war came, before the Reveloution. I was only a small boy back than but I remember my father marching off to join the fighting along with my uncles. Just like all my ancestors before them. He never marched back home. Nor did his brother nor did so many of our villages men. Then the war ended. And nothing was gained. All that blood and suffering, I never new why everyone in the village was so angry, but I understood the sadness. Than the Revolution of 1919 occurred, the kind who had betrayed us was over thrown and Zukal was elected president.

Of course being a young boy I was more concerned with tending the fields with my brothers and the other village men, the usual monotony of village life in rural Valania. And that continued unabated for many years. I married a girl from our village named Otylia. Zukal had died two years before and Jeraback had been president for two years. This was a tough time for us. Food prices soared, and even though we grew our own food things were tough. In 1928, a year after our marriage God saw fit to gift us with a boy, I named him after my father, Benedykt.

Than came the rule of the communists. Communist forces moved into the country side after the election seeing Bretlow as a opposition strong hold. It was a bloody and scary time. I sent my wife and young son to live with my brother in near by Krikow while me and the rest of the men plotted our own revelation. We gathered arms and ammo, stashing them in the fields and in barns. We would ambush communists on street corners, bomb the constables office. Anything to let them know the men of Bretlow where not so easily cowed. Than the '39 election. The protests, the massacres. It was open war now. Some 600 men met in Bretlow from the surrounding villages and we formed the Bretlow Volunteers. Our first action was kicking the pro communist military garrison, there I distinguished my self as a leader of men storming the garrison walls. after securing the arms an ammunition of the garrison we held election for who would lead us.

I never would have dreamed that it would be me who would win the election, but here I am. My men and I are currently marching west towards to front at the Balerian.
Do not remove - 2088

Looks good, accepted

[Cylarn]

Tayner also has an app ready to go, I believe.

[The Hindustani State]

Tayner also has an app ready to go, I believe.

Right, must’ve missed it

Character Application

Name: Drago Smolensky
Age: 27
Personality description: A humble man who takes care for those he works with and is responsible for.
Appearance:

(Image)

Faction: The Republic
Position in leadership: Captain, F. En. Co.
If Military or Militia leader, how many troops under command?: 169
Political Ideology: Netural

Goals: End the war, come home alive, bring his men home alive.

Biography: Born in 1914, Drago's parents were both anti monarchists, and he could remember his parents celebrating the fall of the monarchy every year on it's anniversary as he grew up. Drago never really understood the significance, and tried to live a normal life, but during the communist's reign of terror, his parents found themselves executed as political prisoners. Drago would join the republic's army, wanting to defend his home and honor his parents. While not politically motivated, he wanted to see an end to the war and he wanted to be part of it.

He would train as an engineer, and become an officer. After a few years of service, he would be promoted to Captain, and would lead an engineering company through the strifes of the nation as it's political powers clashed. He's watched men desert, men blindly sign up, and die for political beliefs, while he tries to lead them through battle and bring them home alive for his own beliefs. As an engineer, he's lead his men through minefields, emplaced obstacles, and across rivers, helping pave the way for larger units. His company has been assigned to Brigadier Kalwa's Brigade to support their mission on the front.

Do not remove - 2088

Looks good, accepted

[Vrijstaat Limburg]

I’m still working on an application, apologies for the delay.

[Cylarn]

I’m still working on an application, apologies for the delay.

You're all good, fella.

[Ithalian Empire]

I'll probably post tomorrow after work.

[The Frozen Forest]

Right now i'm waiting on a post from Eggistan, afterwards i'll probably be pushing forwards.

[Eggistaan]

Right now i'm waiting on a post from Eggistan, afterwards i'll probably be pushing forwards.

Really sorry for being slow I'm working on one now!

[The Hindustani State]

Was busy last week, sorry, can finally get back to this now, may have post up soon

[Eggistaan]

Right now i'm waiting on a post from Eggistan, afterwards i'll probably be pushing forwards.

Its small but I posted, you can go forward with your attack