A Country In Chaos (Civil War Character RP) [OOC|OPEN]

[Cylarn]

Exactly how heavily defended is Kurmutsk?

I'm not the OP here, but my guess is that layers would be a big deal here, starting out in the countryside or rural areas around Kurmutsk housing some sort of forward reaction system and light defenses. The closer to get to the city proper, the depth of the defenses would likely increase, with field guns and purpose-built machine gun bunkers and AA emplacements being commonplace. Expect a good deal of long-range guns set up at spots to delay an advance. Like any self-respecting city, it also probably has its own dual-usage airport, as to allow the city its own aerial units in the event of a movement towards the city. Public safety services, city militias, and the city garrisons probably have a multitude of plans and contingencies and plans ready to go.

In all likelihood, it might be a lot to bite off and chew at this stage.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Exactly how heavily defended is Kurmutsk?

I'm not the OP here, but my guess is that layers would be a big deal here, starting out in the countryside or rural areas around Kurmutsk housing some sort of forward reaction system and light defenses. The closer to get to the city proper, the depth of the defenses would likely increase, with field guns and purpose-built machine gun bunkers and AA emplacements being commonplace. Expect a good deal of long-range guns set up at spots to delay an advance. Like any self-respecting city, it also probably has its own dual-usage airport, as to allow the city its own aerial units in the event of a movement towards the city. Public safety services, city militias, and the city garrisons probably have a multitude of plans and contingencies and plans ready to go.

In all likelihood, it might be a lot to bite off and chew at this stage.

If that's the case, I'll just go around and strike at enemy armies and supply depots

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

There anyone out here I can interact with? Usari's character is stuck in a city so, like, not sure how that'd work...

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

There anyone out here I can interact with? Usari's character is stuck in a city so, like, not sure how that'd work...

We could discuss matters during a parlay, if his armies come closer to the city. For example, to allow him to retreat peacefully to attack the communists, which seems like the bigger threat at the moment. There’s no use in Republicans and Nationalists slaughtering each other only for the Reds to take over. They might even reach some sort of compromise.

Meanwhile, however, I expect that the route your army is following will be blasted both by naval guns and ground attack aircraft, with the latter being especially hard on the tank columns and mechanised infantry.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

There anyone out here I can interact with? Usari's character is stuck in a city so, like, not sure how that'd work...

We could discuss matters during a parlay, if his armies come closer to the city. For example, to allow him to retreat peacefully to attack the communists, which seems like the bigger threat at the moment. There’s no use in Republicans and Nationalists slaughtering each other only for the Reds to take over. They might even reach some sort of compromise.

Meanwhile, however, I expect that the route your army is following will be blasted both by naval guns and ground attack aircraft, with the latter being especially hard on the tank columns and mechanised infantry.

Rip, airpower

Though considering the decently mountainous terrain that comes with something described similar to the Highlands, I feel like Stanislaw is fairly safe at the moment (at least, from naval guns)

Just to note btw, unlike other NPF members, Stanislaw does not fight for ideological reasons, he fights because he sees the NPF as Valania's only chance. Remember, the monarchy was overthrown while the republic had grown corrupt and repressive.

So if either the Republic or the monarchists were able to prove that they were "worthy" to govern Valania and that they could do it well, then Stanislaw would be much more open to negotiation and possibly even cooperation.

Just putting out a thought there.

[Bolslania]

There anyone out here I can interact with? Usari's character is stuck in a city so, like, not sure how that'd work...

We could discuss matters during a parlay, if his armies come closer to the city. For example, to allow him to retreat peacefully to attack the communists, which seems like the bigger threat at the moment. There’s no use in Republicans and Nationalists slaughtering each other only for the Reds to take over. They might even reach some sort of compromise.

Meanwhile, however, I expect that the route your army is following will be blasted both by naval guns and ground attack aircraft, with the latter being especially hard on the tank columns and mechanised infantry.

To be fair the Republicans are somewhat on the back foot, so its the better play (At least I believe) to take out the Republicans with the combined support of all the factions, and then sweep the feet out from under the Communists.

[Cylarn]

We could discuss matters during a parlay, if his armies come closer to the city. For example, to allow him to retreat peacefully to attack the communists, which seems like the bigger threat at the moment. There’s no use in Republicans and Nationalists slaughtering each other only for the Reds to take over. They might even reach some sort of compromise.

Meanwhile, however, I expect that the route your army is following will be blasted both by naval guns and ground attack aircraft, with the latter being especially hard on the tank columns and mechanised infantry.

To be fair the Republicans are somewhat on the back foot, so its the better play (At least I believe) to take out the Republicans with the combined support of all the factions, and then sweep the feet out from under the Communists.

Better yet, wait for the NPF to sap their own strength by dashing themselves against Kurmutsk which, in my opinion, likely has defense-in-depth and ample fire support to gradually wear down anyone trying to penetrate the city proper. Then, send a Red Wave into the peninsula they abandoned.

While Baronovsky might not be an ideologue, Istvan sees him as an enabler to the racists and the worst elements of the NPF.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

We could discuss matters during a parlay, if his armies come closer to the city. For example, to allow him to retreat peacefully to attack the communists, which seems like the bigger threat at the moment. There’s no use in Republicans and Nationalists slaughtering each other only for the Reds to take over. They might even reach some sort of compromise.

Meanwhile, however, I expect that the route your army is following will be blasted both by naval guns and ground attack aircraft, with the latter being especially hard on the tank columns and mechanised infantry.

To be fair the Republicans are somewhat on the back foot, so its the better play (At least I believe) to take out the Republicans with the combined support of all the factions, and then sweep the feet out from under the Communists.

Ideologically, while fascists often abhor democracy, they hate communists more, and their hatred for democracy often comes from the inability of republics to quash left-wing causes. For example, in the Weimar Republic, right wing militias cooperated with the Republican government to fight leftists insurrections like the Spartacists. After all, fascists can easily infiltrate reublican governments and influence them without resort to direct violence. Even when they do, like with the Bierkeller Putsch, the reublican government is bound to show mercy just because they need the fascist aid when fighting the leftists.

Especially when the republic is on the back foot, the fascists could extract incredible concessions, so I expect Baranovskiy to be able to navigate himself an accord quite handily, even if he is unable to sufficiently pressure the capital. Perhaps with him becoming part of the High Command, or Minister for War. A broad republican-fascist-monarchist coalition can maybe defeat the communists; and then fiht out the details later.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

We could discuss matters during a parlay, if his armies come closer to the city. For example, to allow him to retreat peacefully to attack the communists, which seems like the bigger threat at the moment. There’s no use in Republicans and Nationalists slaughtering each other only for the Reds to take over. They might even reach some sort of compromise.

Meanwhile, however, I expect that the route your army is following will be blasted both by naval guns and ground attack aircraft, with the latter being especially hard on the tank columns and mechanised infantry.

Rip, airpower

Though considering the decently mountainous terrain that comes with something described similar to the Highlands, I feel like Stanislaw is fairly safe at the moment (at least, from naval guns)

Just to note btw, unlike other NPF members, Stanislaw does not fight for ideological reasons, he fights because he sees the NPF as Valania's only chance. Remember, the monarchy was overthrown while the republic had grown corrupt and repressive.

So if either the Republic or the monarchists were able to prove that they were "worthy" to govern Valania and that they could do it well, then Stanislaw would be much more open to negotiation and possibly even cooperation.

Just putting out a thought there.

Whether he is an idealogue or not, he fights for the NPF cause. Whether he personally believes in the worst aspects is somewhat irrelevant (from Jaroslav’s view), because he is still contributing. Compare, for example, to Erwin Rommel, who was no better than any other Nazi general.

[The Hindustani State]

To be fair the Republicans are somewhat on the back foot, so its the better play (At least I believe) to take out the Republicans with the combined support of all the factions, and then sweep the feet out from under the Communists.

Better yet, wait for the NPF to sap their own strength by dashing themselves against Kurmutsk which, in my opinion, likely has defense-in-depth and ample fire support to gradually wear down anyone trying to penetrate the city proper. Then, send a Red Wave into the peninsula they abandoned.

While Baronovsky might not be an ideologue, Istvan sees him as an enabler to the racists and the worst elements of the NPF.

Currently the racialists are very much minority in the faction, and many of the leaders of the NPF junta want to wipe them out completely, the current NPF leadership is split on ideology between Italian style fascism and National Syndicalism, but some are open to negotiation with the Rexist monarchists

Both consider themselves Polakists though

[Eggistaan]

What can i do from this point onwards, how should i rp losing the equipment that you do not want me to have? The Republicans haven't responded so should I create a defensive perimeter or retreat and lose the weapons due to bad weather or something? Im kind of stuck here.

Edit: Also im really sorry but i just wanted to make sure just in case my eyes are failing me, we do not border the Fascists right?

[The Hindustani State]

What can i do from this point onwards, how should i rp losing the equipment that you do not want me to have? The Republicans haven't responded so should I create a defensive perimeter or retreat and lose the weapons due to bad weather or something? Im kind of stuck here.

Edit: Also im really sorry but i just wanted to make sure just in case my eyes are failing me, we do not border the Fascists right?

No

I posted the news event showing the outcome of the battle, the KLS made gains

[Bolslania]

What can i do from this point onwards, how should i rp losing the equipment that you do not want me to have? The Republicans haven't responded so should I create a defensive perimeter or retreat and lose the weapons due to bad weather or something? Im kind of stuck here.

Edit: Also im really sorry but i just wanted to make sure just in case my eyes are failing me, we do not border the Fascists right?

No

I posted the news event showing the outcome of the battle, the KLS made gains

In speaking of equipment, is it cool if I bring up 1 Ba-10 armored car or should I edit that out?

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Rip, airpower

Though considering the decently mountainous terrain that comes with something described similar to the Highlands, I feel like Stanislaw is fairly safe at the moment (at least, from naval guns)

Just to note btw, unlike other NPF members, Stanislaw does not fight for ideological reasons, he fights because he sees the NPF as Valania's only chance. Remember, the monarchy was overthrown while the republic had grown corrupt and repressive.

So if either the Republic or the monarchists were able to prove that they were "worthy" to govern Valania and that they could do it well, then Stanislaw would be much more open to negotiation and possibly even cooperation.

Just putting out a thought there.

Whether he is an idealogue or not, he fights for the NPF cause. Whether he personally believes in the worst aspects is somewhat irrelevant (from Jaroslav’s view), because he is still contributing. Compare, for example, to Erwin Rommel, who was no better than any other Nazi general.

I understand, rest assured this isn't some moral justification. After all, evil thrives when good men do nothing, and Stanislaw (as I plan in my future posts) is not necessarily a good man.

Just some advice if one chooses to try and negotiate with Baranovskiy.

Because if there's one thing Baranovskiy is, he's stubborn, especially in the face of those he perceives his enemy.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Hey Hindustani, would it be okay for me to start making a map of Kurmutsk? Like, a modern city map? Because I feel that might become important, and I would love to do some world-building with the city itself.

[The Hindustani State]

Hey Hindustani, would it be okay for me to start making a map of Kurmutsk? Like, a modern city map? Because I feel that might become important, and I would love to do some world-building with the city itself.

Yeah sure, the old royal palace is still there

[Martune]

I am considering joining this RP but Im gonna wait a day or two before I try and write anything

[Russkiya Svyachena]

Better yet, wait for the NPF to sap their own strength by dashing themselves against Kurmutsk which, in my opinion, likely has defense-in-depth and ample fire support to gradually wear down anyone trying to penetrate the city proper. Then, send a Red Wave into the peninsula they abandoned.

While Baronovsky might not be an ideologue, Istvan sees him as an enabler to the racists and the worst elements of the NPF.

Currently the racialists are very much minority in the faction, and many of the leaders of the NPF junta want to wipe them out completely, the current NPF leadership is split on ideology between Italian style fascism and National Syndicalism, but some are open to negotiation with the Rexist monarchists

Both consider themselves Polakists though

That’s the original third positionist theorist right?

[The Hindustani State]

Currently the racialists are very much minority in the faction, and many of the leaders of the NPF junta want to wipe them out completely, the current NPF leadership is split on ideology between Italian style fascism and National Syndicalism, but some are open to negotiation with the Rexist monarchists

Both consider themselves Polakists though

That’s the original third positionist theorist right?

Yeah

[Smanatchenka]

That’s the original third positionist theorist right?

Yeah

The Racialists, in truth, would be National Socialists rather than Fascists. Fascism and the Third Position doesn’t subscribe to racially guided principles. It goes against the entirety of the political and social doctrine.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Yeah

The Racialists, in truth, would be National Socialists rather than Fascists. Fascism and the Third Position doesn’t subscribe to racially guided principles. It goes against the entirety of the political and social doctrine.

I don’t want to get into this argument in an RP, but I have to call it out when I see it: national socialism is a form of fascism, and fascism is, through its paleogenic ultranationalism, always racist. Fascism is different for every place it rears its ugly head, but outgrouping of other racial groups is always a part of its system. Fascism has never been a coherent ideology either: it is whatever it needs to be to attain power.

Sorry to turn all political, but making a hard distinction between Mussolini’s fascism and Hitler’s national socialism is simply unfounded.

[The Hindustani State]

Yeah

The Racialists, in truth, would be National Socialists rather than Fascists. Fascism and the Third Position doesn’t subscribe to racially guided principles. It goes against the entirety of the political and social doctrine.

There are many NPF leaders who want to wipe out the racialists completely, but in general everyone in the NPF considers themselves a Polakist in this lore. Polak himself denounced racism but that didn’t stop some racists from rising

[Airthabmennae]

There are many NPF leaders who want to wipe out the racialists completely, but in general everyone in the NPF considers themselves a Polakist in this lore. Polak himself denounced racism but that didn’t stop some racists from rising

Currently the racialists are very much minority in the faction, and many of the leaders of the NPF junta want to wipe them out completely, the current NPF leadership is split on ideology between Italian style fascism and National Syndicalism, but some are open to negotiation with the Rexist monarchists

Both consider themselves Polakists though

There are many NPF leaders who want to wipe out the racialists completely, but in general everyone in the NPF considers themselves a Polakist in this lore. Polak himself denounced racism but that didn’t stop some racists from rising

I don't want to give too much away prematurely, but the group I'm working on currently (the Freidhomian volunteers who signed up to fight in the Valanian civil war) might prove to be pretty influential when it comes to that Rexist-Polakist alliance. Suffice to say, considering the Freidhomian culture and the real-life counterpart it's based on, these radical young men might cause a problem here or there.

Having said that, I do apologize for not having posted the application yet. I've finally managed to catch some time off, so the app's coming along soon

[The Frozen Forest]

Character Application

Name: Axel Nicklas Olov Frisk
Age: 54
Personality description: Lieutenant General Frisk is an older man with older views. He has a unwavering hatred for the communists and their party and sees them as the ultimate enemy of Valanian people. More than politics he cares for his family, which are in fact his primary reason for coming out of retirement. Frisk will look out for his family before anything else.
Appearance: --->

Faction: The Kings Loyal Army
Position in leadership (if any): Lieutenant General
If Military or Militia leader, how many troops under command?: 16,000 Personnel

2nd Royal Army
16,000 Military Personnel Total

-42 Self Propelled Artillery (270 Crew)
-6,200 Cavalry
-40 Medium Tanks (200 Crew)
-200 Maintainers (2nd Maintenance Company)
-8,000 Infantry
-1,330 Support Personnel (Medical/Logistics/Staff)

Political Ideology: Monarchism, Traditionalism, Nationalism, Anti-Communism

Goals: Frisk intends to win the war through aggressive campaigning against the Republicans and Communists and working towards bringing an alliance with the NPF. Should he be unable to complete this goal he will do his best to weaken the Communists, who he see as the worst of all evils. Should he succeed and with other Monarchists win the war, Frisk intends to use his influence to convince King Jan III's heir to marry his granddaughter. Frisk is going to do everything he can to protect his family, as losing them would leave him a broken man.

Biography (Minimum 2 paragraphs): The Frisk Family is an ancient one. Genealogical records show a lineage predating the Kingdom and a loyal history of faithful nobility throughout it's history. Axel's father was a General in the Royal Army from an unprecedently young age partially due to nepotism and partially due to raw martial skill and training. His mother was an heiress to a vast fortune and notably strict even by noble standards. The pair became known as "The Bloody Frisks" for their skill in dealing with their enemies through whatever means possible. Axel grew up with the constant threat to his own survival and his parents maneuvered and clawed their way through those who sought their downfall in order to maintain their lavish lifestyle as members of the King's inner circle.

Axel moved around with his father from the age of six and on. He learned early on how the military functioned, how men could be motivated by fear or greed or inspiration. He learned that above all else one should seek victory despite the losses incurred. Axel learned many lessons over the years, becoming a common sight to the soldiers and officers who met his father. When Axel turned sixteen he commissioned as a Second Lieutenant in the Royal Army under his fathers command and continued to learn and educate himself.

Axel moved rapidly through the ranks of Second and First Lieutenant and after becoming a Captain he took a wife at the age of 21. He continued to advance over the years and was 29 years old when revolution broke out. By that time he had managed to raise himself to the rank of Major General due to a mix of nepotism and distrust for other potential promotees by the monarchy. His swift rise though was ended by the Republic which overthrew those forces around the King and brought down the Monarchy. It was a fact that Axel's father was one of those in charge of the Kings defense at the time and his father was imprisoned by the rebels when they took power. He would later be killed by the Communists when they took power.

In a bid to maintain his survival and the survival of his father, Axel switched sides almost as soon as the news reached him. Under the new regime he was discriminated against as promotions and perks went to liberal officers and Axel was sent off to a distant region of little significance. Later when the Communists came to power and started their reign of terror Axel was forced out of the military and was imprisoned by them on trumped up charges, though narrowly dying in prison he was released when the liberals came back into power and was even offered his old position back, which he respectfully refused.

With what little wealth he maintained he moved south with his family to areas that were dominated by the newly growing NPF. He found work and likeminded anti-communists with them and agreed to help train their paramilitaries. Many of the officers and soldiers that he helped train would go on to form the subfaction of the NPF that wished to form an alliance with the Monarchists. When the nation began to fracture and break apart he remained with the NPF initially, though once he got word of the formation of a Monarchist force in the form of the King's Loyal Army he said adieu to his men and peers and left to join the KLA. He was too late to participate in the initial uprising but was able to gain an appointment as Lieutenant General after meeting with General Syzkin.

He was given charge of the 2nd Royal Army, then composed primarily of untrained, undisciplined though loyal folk from around the peninsula. He forged it into something respectable, something that could rightfully bear the name of the 2nd Royal Army. He also traded his towed artillery to his peers in exchange for horses to outfit a new batch of cavalrymen as well as scattered self-propelled artillery pieces. His doctrine is one of speed and mobility, as he knows being too slow will lead to his destruction in the field by the larger armies of his opponents. He is currently moving towards Republican territory rapidly with intent of marching up the peninsula and expanding the size of his forces from among those sympathetic to the cause. His eldest and second sons Ryden and Armfeld are officers under him and his daughters Alicia, Erika and Ysolda are in Novomaw. He is eager to meet Major General Kamen, of which he has heard much about the mans loyalty and fanaticism.

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Do not remove - 2088

[Ithalian Empire]

I'm thinking of making a charecter that isn't all that aligned with any of the factions in the east who leads some sorta independent farmers militia.