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Fossia
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Postby Fossia » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:15 am

Arvenia wrote:
Fossia wrote:The thing is there was a certain inevitability with the divide, due to the stark contrast in nationality and ethnicity. However, there are certainly ways this could have been curbed and eventually led to a still unified state. For example, Switzerland and Spain are both nations of many ethnicities yet they continue to live on. Its also important to mention that communism wasn't the only thing holding them together, the Czechoslovaks had multiple points to split up during their history. After the signing of the pittsburgh agreement in 1918, it actually seemed like there would be a separate slovak state, however the majority of slovaks and government officials from both nation wished to remain together, thus the creation of the nation. Again after the second world war, the nation had a chance to divide, the slovaks had actually been heavily influenced by ethnic nationalism exported from germany. However even with this the nation remained together. It should also be mentioned that there are several other major ethnicities in Czechoslovakia, namely the Bohemians (German Czechs), and the Slovak Magyars (Hungarian Slovaks). Furthermore, even despite analyses stating that the split was inevitable, there was certainly a lot of bickering between the two nations after the velvet revolution, the Czech and Slovak prime ministers had a very public feud for example. That said here's the scenario I think would realistically see Czechoslovakia stay united:

1989 - Velvet Revolution Occurs (Same as IRL)
Early 1990 - Mikuláš Dzurinda is elected as head of the slovak movement instead of Vladimír Mečiar, Dzurinda is much more centrist and closer to the Czech, he is able to persuade the Czech to continue funneling money into slovakia, provided they post pone talks of a split until 1994.
1990 - With money from Czechia, slovakia is able to develop its infrastructure and create a start up and privatization program with help from west germany, this leads to increased levels of slovak growth closing the once large gap between the czech and slovak economies over the next few years.
1991 - With the unification of Germany and division talks postponed, a movement arises in eastern Czechia among Bohemians to rejoin germany. As protests erupt that summer, the Czech government agrees to a more devolved government in eastern Czechia.
1992 - The Slovak Magyars demand to be released to join hungary, Slovakia seeks help from the Czechs, the Czechs agree and negotiate a similar devolution of powers agreement.
1993 - Growing demands from populations from all regions of the country demand talks to finally create a national unified government. A federal council system is created temporarily with the leaders from Bohemia, Czechia, Slovakia, and Upper Hungary all getting representation. New elections lead to a more centrist government on all sides.
1994 - The federal council convenes in Vienna to discuss the possibility of split. The council creates a referendum, to create a devolved federation somewhat like Spain, or to separate and create 3 new nations. The referendum passes in favor of unification because:
Slovaks - no longer feel neglected by Czech government
Czechs - no longer see the slovaks as an economic burden and understand the ethnic tension due to the Bohemian movement
Bohemians - dont see the europeans as realistically letting them join Germany and dont feel threatened by the other groups in the country
Slovak Magyars - start to see the rapid increase in corruption and authoritarianism in Hungary and no longer wish to join
1995 - On January 1st 1995, the Czechslovak parliament convenes in Prague, the capital of the nation, there are four official languages (German, Czech, Slovak, and Hungarian). Like Belgium the nation is divided into separate Language Communities, whilst there is a national curriculum, the specifics of education are controlled by the language communities. The Nation is divided into four Regions; Bohemia, with its capital in Pilsen; Czechia, with its capital in Prague; Slovakia, with its capital in Braitslava; and Upper Hungary, with its capital in Komarno.

https://64.media.tumblr.com/24dbd85f8ef ... 58548f.jpg

This image is a good example of what the regions would be divided by. Feel free to use as much of this as you want, but its what I would see as most realistic avenue for a continued unification.
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I like the timeline, but it could still be subject to change. Anyway, am I allowed to use that timeline (in exchange for credit)?

Ofcourse, no need for credit either, just trying to help.

Although I think i did make a slight mistake, in 1991 I said eastern czechia, when it is in fact western czechia, so my mistake there. Also if you wish to go with the devolved plan Kosice is potentially a better capital for the Upper Hungary Region
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Postby Revlona » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:20 am

Anyone posting soon?
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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:50 am

Fossia wrote:
Arvenia wrote:That sounds plausible.

The thing is there was a certain inevitability with the divide, due to the stark contrast in nationality and ethnicity. However, there are certainly ways this could have been curbed and eventually led to a still unified state. For example, Switzerland and Spain are both nations of many ethnicities yet they continue to live on. Its also important to mention that communism wasn't the only thing holding them together, the Czechoslovaks had multiple points to split up during their history. After the signing of the pittsburgh agreement in 1918, it actually seemed like there would be a separate slovak state, however the majority of slovaks and government officials from both nation wished to remain together, thus the creation of the nation. Again after the second world war, the nation had a chance to divide, the slovaks had actually been heavily influenced by ethnic nationalism exported from germany. However even with this the nation remained together. It should also be mentioned that there are several other major ethnicities in Czechoslovakia, namely the Bohemians (German Czechs), and the Slovak Magyars (Hungarian Slovaks). Furthermore, even despite analyses stating that the split was inevitable, there was certainly a lot of bickering between the two nations after the velvet revolution, the Czech and Slovak prime ministers had a very public feud for example. That said here's the scenario I think would realistically see Czechoslovakia stay united:

1989 - Velvet Revolution Occurs (Same as IRL)
Early 1990 - Mikuláš Dzurinda is elected as head of the slovak movement instead of Vladimír Mečiar, Dzurinda is much more centrist and closer to the Czech, he is able to persuade the Czech to continue funneling money into slovakia, provided they post pone talks of a split until 1994.
1990 - With money from Czechia, slovakia is able to develop its infrastructure and create a start up and privatization program with help from west germany, this leads to increased levels of slovak growth closing the once large gap between the czech and slovak economies over the next few years.
1991 - With the unification of Germany and division talks postponed, a movement arises in eastern Czechia among Bohemians to rejoin germany. As protests erupt that summer, the Czech government agrees to a more devolved government in eastern Czechia.
1992 - The Slovak Magyars demand to be released to join hungary, Slovakia seeks help from the Czechs, the Czechs agree and negotiate a similar devolution of powers agreement.
1993 - Growing demands from populations from all regions of the country demand talks to finally create a national unified government. A federal council system is created temporarily with the leaders from Bohemia, Czechia, Slovakia, and Upper Hungary all getting representation. New elections lead to a more centrist government on all sides.
1994 - The federal council convenes in Vienna to discuss the possibility of split. The council creates a referendum, to create a devolved federation somewhat like Spain, or to separate and create 3 new nations. The referendum passes in favor of unification because:
Slovaks - no longer feel neglected by Czech government
Czechs - no longer see the slovaks as an economic burden and understand the ethnic tension due to the Bohemian movement
Bohemians - dont see the europeans as realistically letting them join Germany and dont feel threatened by the other groups in the country
Slovak Magyars - start to see the rapid increase in corruption and authoritarianism in Hungary and no longer wish to join
1995 - On January 1st 1995, the Czechslovak parliament convenes in Prague, the capital of the nation, there are four official languages (German, Czech, Slovak, and Hungarian). Like Belgium the nation is divided into separate Language Communities, whilst there is a national curriculum, the specifics of education are controlled by the language communities. The Nation is divided into four Regions; Bohemia, with its capital in Pilsen; Czechia, with its capital in Prague; Slovakia, with its capital in Braitslava; and Upper Hungary, with its capital in Komarno.

https://64.media.tumblr.com/24dbd85f8ef ... 58548f.jpg

This image is a good example of what the regions would be divided by. Feel free to use as much of this as you want, but its what I would see as most realistic avenue for a continued unification.



*eyes Fossia intently*

tis good to have another research geek and European history aficionado in a thread :hug:

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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:51 am

Revlona wrote:Anyone posting soon?


I'll be getting an IC post up soon, including the fact in the past year Poland and the U.K as members of N.A.T.O have strengthened their alliance with each other interpersonally.

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Postby Arvenia » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:42 pm

Arvenia wrote:
NS Name: Arvenia
RP Name: Czechoslovak Federative Republic (CSFR/Československá Federativní Republika/Česko-Slovenská Federatívna Republika/Tschechoslowakische Bundesrepublik/Csehszlovák Szövetségi Köztársaság)
Capital: Prague
Territory: The green area in Europe
Population: 15,473,620
Official Language: Czech, Slovak, German and Hungarian

Head of State: President Miloš Zeman
HoS Picture: Miloš Zeman
Head of Government: Prime Minister Václav Horák (LSNS)
HoG Picture: Václav Horák
Legislature Name: Parliament (composed of upper "Senate" and lower "National Assembly")
Party in Power: A political alliance between Liberal National Social Party (LSNS), Czechoslovak Social Democratic Party (ČSSD), Action of Dissatisfied Citizens (ANO), Bohemian People's Party (BV) and Hungarian Coalition Party (MKP)

GDP (nominal): $373.606 billion
Major Trade Partners: Germany, Poland, Austria, Ukraine, Hungary and USA
Major Exports: Automobiles, machinery, plastics, mineral fuels and ICT
Major Imports: Iron, steel, rubber, machinery, vehicles, plastics and mineral fuels
Oil Production: 28,127 BBL/D
Oil Consumption: 261,543 BBL/D
Proven Oil Reserves: 24,000,000 barrels
Defense Budget (USD): $3.6 billion
Alliance(s): NATO and EU

Military Name: Czechoslovak National Defense Forces (ČSNO/TNV/CNE)
Military Branches: Czechoslovak Army, Czechoslovak Air Force and Czechoslovak River Force

Active Duty: 42,000 soldiers and 12,800 civilians
Reserve Duty: 3,236
Total Manpower: 58,036

Tanks: 250
AFVs: 650
SPA: 170
Towed Artillery: 1200
Rocket Projectors: 400

Fighters: 100
Dedicated Attack: 50
Transports: 15
Trainers: 25
Special Mission: 20
Helicopters: 29
Attack Helicopters: 29

Aircraft Carriers: 0
Destroyers: 0
Frigates: 0
Corvettes: 0
Submarines: 0
Patrol: ~20
Mine Warfare: 0

Other Military Information: N/A

History Changes:
1989 - Velvet Revolution Occurs (Same as IRL)
Early 1990 - Mikuláš Dzurinda is elected as head of the Slovak movement instead of Vladimír Mečiar, Dzurinda is much more centrist and closer to the Czech, he is able to persuade the Czech to continue funneling money into Slovakia, provided they postpone talks of a split until 1994.
1990 - With money from Czechia, Slovakia is able to develop its infrastructure and create a start up and privatization program with help from west germany, this leads to increased levels of slovak growth closing the once large gap between the Czech and Slovak economies over the next few years.
1991 - With the unification of Germany and division talks postponed, a movement arises in eastern Czechia among Bohemians to rejoin Germany. As protests erupt that summer, the Czech government agrees to a more devolved government in eastern Czechia.
1992 - The Slovak Magyars demand to be released to join Hungary, Slovakia seeks help from the Czechs, the Czechs agree and negotiate a similar devolution of powers agreement.
1993 - Growing demands from populations from all regions of the country demand talks to finally create a national unified government. A federal council system is created temporarily with the leaders from Bohemia (German-speaking Czechia), Czechia, Slovakia, and Felvidek (Upper Hungary) all getting representation. New elections lead to a more centrist government on all sides.
1994 - The federal council convenes in Vienna to discuss the possibility of split. The council creates a referendum, to create a devolved federation somewhat like Spain, or to separate and create 3 new nations. The referendum passes in favor of unification because:
Slovaks - no longer feel neglected by Czech government
Czechs - no longer see the Slovaks as an economic burden and understand the ethnic tension due to the Bohemian movement
Bohemians (Czech Germans) - don't see the Europeans as realistically letting them join Germany and don't feel threatened by the other groups in the country
Felvidekians (Slovak Hungarians) - start to see the rapid increase in corruption and authoritarianism in Hungary and no longer wish to join
1995 - On January 1st 1995, the Czechslovak Parliament convenes in Prague, the capital of the nation, there are four official languages (German, Czech, Slovak, and Hungarian). Like Belgium the nation is divided into separate Language Communities, whilst there is a national curriculum, the specifics of education are controlled by the language communities. The Nation is divided into four regions; Bohemia, with its capital in Pilsen; Czechia, with its capital in Brno; Slovakia, with its capital in Braitslava; and Upper Hungary, with its capital in Komarno. Prague is an independent city-state placed between Bohemia and Czechia (thus the Central Bohemian Region is divided between the two regions, while the Prague area remains intact). Each region has a governor and is divided into districts (who in turn are composed of municipalities).
1999 - Czechoslovakia joins NATO.
2004 - Czechoslovakia joins the European Union.
2006 - Czechoslovakia was recognized by the World Bank as a "developing country".
2007 - Czechoslovakia is affected by the Great Recession.
2009 - Czechoslovakia is ranked by the Human Development Index as a nation of "Very High Human Development".
2017 - A coalition government is formed by LSNS, ČSSD, ANO, BV and MKP.
2021 - Present-day.


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Postby Mathuvan Union » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:16 pm

Arvenia wrote:
Arvenia wrote:
NS Name: Arvenia
RP Name: Czechoslovak Federative Republic (CSFR/Československá Federativní Republika/Česko-Slovenská Federatívna Republika/Tschechoslowakische Bundesrepublik/Csehszlovák Szövetségi Köztársaság)
Capital: Prague
Territory: The green area in Europe
Population: 15,473,620
Official Language: Czech, Slovak, German and Hungarian

Head of State: President Miloš Zeman
HoS Picture: Miloš Zeman
Head of Government: Prime Minister Václav Horák (LSNS)
HoG Picture: Václav Horák
Legislature Name: Parliament (composed of upper "Senate" and lower "National Assembly")
Party in Power: A political alliance between Liberal National Social Party (LSNS), Czechoslovak Social Democratic Party (ČSSD), Action of Dissatisfied Citizens (ANO), Bohemian People's Party (BV) and Hungarian Coalition Party (MKP)

GDP (nominal): $373.606 billion
Major Trade Partners: Germany, Poland, Austria, Ukraine, Hungary and USA
Major Exports: Automobiles, machinery, plastics, mineral fuels and ICT
Major Imports: Iron, steel, rubber, machinery, vehicles, plastics and mineral fuels
Oil Production: 28,127 BBL/D
Oil Consumption: 261,543 BBL/D
Proven Oil Reserves: 24,000,000 barrels
Defense Budget (USD): $3.6 billion
Alliance(s): NATO and EU

Military Name: Czechoslovak National Defense Forces (ČSNO/TNV/CNE)
Military Branches: Czechoslovak Army, Czechoslovak Air Force and Czechoslovak River Force

Active Duty: 42,000 soldiers and 12,800 civilians
Reserve Duty: 3,236
Total Manpower: 58,036

Tanks: 250
AFVs: 650
SPA: 170
Towed Artillery: 1200
Rocket Projectors: 400

Fighters: 100
Dedicated Attack: 50
Transports: 15
Trainers: 25
Special Mission: 20
Helicopters: 29
Attack Helicopters: 29

Aircraft Carriers: 0
Destroyers: 0
Frigates: 0
Corvettes: 0
Submarines: 0
Patrol: ~20
Mine Warfare: 0

Other Military Information: N/A

History Changes:
1989 - Velvet Revolution Occurs (Same as IRL)
Early 1990 - Mikuláš Dzurinda is elected as head of the Slovak movement instead of Vladimír Mečiar, Dzurinda is much more centrist and closer to the Czech, he is able to persuade the Czech to continue funneling money into Slovakia, provided they postpone talks of a split until 1994.
1990 - With money from Czechia, Slovakia is able to develop its infrastructure and create a start up and privatization program with help from west germany, this leads to increased levels of slovak growth closing the once large gap between the Czech and Slovak economies over the next few years.
1991 - With the unification of Germany and division talks postponed, a movement arises in eastern Czechia among Bohemians to rejoin Germany. As protests erupt that summer, the Czech government agrees to a more devolved government in eastern Czechia.
1992 - The Slovak Magyars demand to be released to join Hungary, Slovakia seeks help from the Czechs, the Czechs agree and negotiate a similar devolution of powers agreement.
1993 - Growing demands from populations from all regions of the country demand talks to finally create a national unified government. A federal council system is created temporarily with the leaders from Bohemia (German-speaking Czechia), Czechia, Slovakia, and Felvidek (Upper Hungary) all getting representation. New elections lead to a more centrist government on all sides.
1994 - The federal council convenes in Vienna to discuss the possibility of split. The council creates a referendum, to create a devolved federation somewhat like Spain, or to separate and create 3 new nations. The referendum passes in favor of unification because:
Slovaks - no longer feel neglected by Czech government
Czechs - no longer see the Slovaks as an economic burden and understand the ethnic tension due to the Bohemian movement
Bohemians (Czech Germans) - don't see the Europeans as realistically letting them join Germany and don't feel threatened by the other groups in the country
Felvidekians (Slovak Hungarians) - start to see the rapid increase in corruption and authoritarianism in Hungary and no longer wish to join
1995 - On January 1st 1995, the Czechslovak Parliament convenes in Prague, the capital of the nation, there are four official languages (German, Czech, Slovak, and Hungarian). Like Belgium the nation is divided into separate Language Communities, whilst there is a national curriculum, the specifics of education are controlled by the language communities. The Nation is divided into four regions; Bohemia, with its capital in Pilsen; Czechia, with its capital in Brno; Slovakia, with its capital in Braitslava; and Upper Hungary, with its capital in Komarno. Prague is an independent city-state placed between Bohemia and Czechia (thus the Central Bohemian Region is divided between the two regions, while the Prague area remains intact). Each region has a governor and is divided into districts (who in turn are composed of municipalities).
1999 - Czechoslovakia joins NATO.
2004 - Czechoslovakia joins the European Union.
2006 - Czechoslovakia was recognized by the World Bank as a "developing country".
2007 - Czechoslovakia is affected by the Great Recession.
2009 - Czechoslovakia is ranked by the Human Development Index as a nation of "Very High Human Development".
2017 - A coalition government is formed by LSNS, ČSSD, ANO, BV and MKP.
2021 - Present-day.


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App finished! Also, I will see if I am able to post in the IC due to possibly frequent inactivity for the rest of this month.

I remember using Milos Zeman in one of my Cold War RP nations...
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Update: apparently it’s bleating sheep.

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Postby Romextly » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:17 pm

Mathuvan Union wrote:
Arvenia wrote:App finished! Also, I will see if I am able to post in the IC due to possibly frequent inactivity for the rest of this month.

I remember using Milos Zeman in one of my Cold War RP nations...

I remember that RP

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WIP

Postby Mathuvan Union » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:25 pm

Nationstates Name: Mathuvan Union
Nation Name: The Federal Republic of Catalonia
Capital: Barcelona
Territory: Catalonia, the spanish state
Population: 7.56 Million
Official Language: Catalan, Spanish

Head of State: Carles Puigdemont (though election is to take place in 2021
HoS Picture: Image
Head of Government: Carles Pudgemont
HoG Picture (If different from HoS): Image
Legislature Name: Parliament of Catalonia/Cortes Generales (Senate and Congress of Deputies)
Party in Power (If bicameral note who controls each): Senate: Citizens, Congress of Deputies: Together for Catalonia

GDP (nominal): 223.99 Billion Euros
Major Trade Partners: France accounts for 16.1% of Catalan exports. Germany (11.9%), along with Italy (9.1%), Portugal (6.7%) and the UK (6.0%)
Major Exports: Automotives and Chemicals
Major Imports: (Not enough information available)
Oil Production: [not enough information, I will go with 1,000 Gallons/Year]*
Oil Consumption: [not enough information, 10,000 Gallons/year]*
Proven Oil Reserves: [no information]
Defense Budget (USD): 1.3%*
Alliances: None.

Military Branches (Just list names of official Armed Forces Branches):

Active Duty:
Reserve Duty:
Total Manpower:

Tanks:
AFVs:
SPA:
Towed Artillery:
Rocket Projectors:

Fighters:
Dedicated Attack:
Transports:
Trainers:
Special Mission:
Helicopters:
Attack Helicopters:

Aircraft Carriers:
Destroyers:
Frigates:
Corvettes:
Submarines:
Patrol:
Mine Warfare:

Other Military Information:

History Changes (Subject to review and approval by OP and Co-OP):


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alright, I really need help, Catalonia is shit at giving information.
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Postby The Hindustani State » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:50 pm

Mathuvan Union wrote:Nationstates Name: Mathuvan Union
Nation Name: The Federal Republic of Catalonia
Capital: Barcelona
Territory: Catalonia, the spanish state
Population: 7.56 Million
Official Language: Catalan, Spanish

Head of State: Carles Puigdemont (though election is to take place in 2021
HoS Picture: ([url=https://i.ibb.co/1X2nh8K/download-9.jpg]Image)[/url]
Head of Government: Carles Pudgemont
HoG Picture (If different from HoS): ([url=https://i.ibb.co/1X2nh8K/download-9.jpg]Image)[/url]
Legislature Name: Parliament of Catalonia/Cortes Generales (Senate and Congress of Deputies)
Party in Power (If bicameral note who controls each): Senate: Citizens, Congress of Deputies: Together for Catalonia

GDP (nominal): 223.99 Billion Euros
Major Trade Partners: France accounts for 16.1% of Catalan exports. Germany (11.9%), along with Italy (9.1%), Portugal (6.7%) and the UK (6.0%)
Major Exports: Automotives and Chemicals
Major Imports: (Not enough information available)
Oil Production: [not enough information, I will go with 1,000 Gallons/Year]*
Oil Consumption: [not enough information, 10,000 Gallons/year]*
Proven Oil Reserves: [no information]
Defense Budget (USD): 1.3%*
Alliances: None.

Military Branches (Just list names of official Armed Forces Branches):

Active Duty:
Reserve Duty:
Total Manpower:

Tanks:
AFVs:
SPA:
Towed Artillery:
Rocket Projectors:

Fighters:
Dedicated Attack:
Transports:
Trainers:
Special Mission:
Helicopters:
Attack Helicopters:

Aircraft Carriers:
Destroyers:
Frigates:
Corvettes:
Submarines:
Patrol:
Mine Warfare:

Other Military Information:

History Changes (Subject to review and approval by OP and Co-OP):


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alright, I really need help, Catalonia is shit at giving information.

Not an OP but an independent Catalonia is very, very, very unlikely
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Postby Arvenia » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:53 pm

The Hindustani State wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:Nationstates Name: Mathuvan Union
Nation Name: The Federal Republic of Catalonia
Capital: Barcelona
Territory: Catalonia, the spanish state
Population: 7.56 Million
Official Language: Catalan, Spanish

Head of State: Carles Puigdemont (though election is to take place in 2021
HoS Picture: ([url=https://i.ibb.co/1X2nh8K/download-9.jpg]Image)[/url]
Head of Government: Carles Pudgemont
HoG Picture (If different from HoS): ([url=https://i.ibb.co/1X2nh8K/download-9.jpg]Image)[/url]
Legislature Name: Parliament of Catalonia/Cortes Generales (Senate and Congress of Deputies)
Party in Power (If bicameral note who controls each): Senate: Citizens, Congress of Deputies: Together for Catalonia

GDP (nominal): 223.99 Billion Euros
Major Trade Partners: France accounts for 16.1% of Catalan exports. Germany (11.9%), along with Italy (9.1%), Portugal (6.7%) and the UK (6.0%)
Major Exports: Automotives and Chemicals
Major Imports: (Not enough information available)
Oil Production: [not enough information, I will go with 1,000 Gallons/Year]*
Oil Consumption: [not enough information, 10,000 Gallons/year]*
Proven Oil Reserves: [no information]
Defense Budget (USD): 1.3%*
Alliances: None.

Military Branches (Just list names of official Armed Forces Branches):

Active Duty:
Reserve Duty:
Total Manpower:

Tanks:
AFVs:
SPA:
Towed Artillery:
Rocket Projectors:

Fighters:
Dedicated Attack:
Transports:
Trainers:
Special Mission:
Helicopters:
Attack Helicopters:

Aircraft Carriers:
Destroyers:
Frigates:
Corvettes:
Submarines:
Patrol:
Mine Warfare:

Other Military Information:

History Changes (Subject to review and approval by OP and Co-OP):


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alright, I really need help, Catalonia is shit at giving information.

Not an OP but an independent Catalonia is very, very, very unlikely

I agree, since Catalan independence got quashed in 2017.
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Versail » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:06 pm

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Nation Name: Bundesrepublik Deutschland.
What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, Whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or in the holy name of liberty or democracy?~ Gandhi.
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The Hindustani State
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Postby The Hindustani State » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:55 pm

Foreign media companies have been sent interview requests to market the new bill to foreign investors, btw
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Theocratic South Asia ruled on Hindu principles, and having expelled all invader religions
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Mathuvan Union
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:40 pm

Arvenia wrote:
The Hindustani State wrote:Not an OP but an independent Catalonia is very, very, very unlikely

I agree, since Catalan independence got quashed in 2017.

Based off a Spanish collapse in 1975 :unsure:
Behind the free market lies the iron fist of the state - the one thing I learned from The Blaatschapen, excluding how to say sheep in dutch.
Update: apparently it’s bleating sheep.

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Monsone
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Postby Monsone » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:43 pm

Mathuvan Union wrote:
Arvenia wrote:I agree, since Catalan independence got quashed in 2017.

Based off a Spanish collapse in 1975 :unsure:

The PoD is in the 1990s.
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Mathuvan Union
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:55 pm

Monsone wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:Based off a Spanish collapse in 1975 :unsure:

The PoD is in the 1990s.

Hmm... *aborts plan*
New app coming soon.
Behind the free market lies the iron fist of the state - the one thing I learned from The Blaatschapen, excluding how to say sheep in dutch.
Update: apparently it’s bleating sheep.

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Chewion
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Chewion » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:00 pm

Is there anyone’s valid app I haven’t replied to?
Pro: America, guns, freedom, democracy, military, Trump, conservatism, Israel, capitalism, state rights.

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The Vaktovian Empire
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:15 am

Newest version of the map, Version 1.2, showing addition of China, I manually added the Diaoyu Islands as well as the South China Sea Islands, but did not color the South China Sea Islands as there are so many and if we get more Southeast Asia players they're just going to be disputed anyway. Diaoyu Islands colored red as they're disputed between China and Japan. Taiwan colored half red as its disputed with the PRC but we know it's an independent government.....

https://i.ibb.co/Sd5jbqd/2021-A-New-Decade.png

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Mathuvan Union
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:31 am

Nationstates Name: Mathuvan Union
Nation Name: Estado monárquico español
Capital: Madrid
Territory: Spain
Population: 46.49 Million
Official Language: Spanish

Head of State: King Felipe VI
HoS Picture: Image
Head of Government: Pedro Sanchez
HoG Picture (If different from HoS): Image
Legislature Name: Cortes Generales
Party in Power (If bicameral note who controls each): Partido Socialista Obrero Español (Spanish Socialist Worker's Party/PSOE)

GDP (nominal): 1.44 trillion
Major Trade Partners: France, Germany, Italy
Major Exports: Vehicles, Machinery (Computers included), Mineral Fuels (Including Oil)
Major Imports: Capital Goods, Chemicals, Energy Products
Oil Production: 71,782.67/Day
Oil Consumption: 1,290,063/Day
Proven Oil Reserves: 150,000,000 Barrels
Defense Budget (USD): 15188.00 USD
Alliances: France, Andorra, Portugal, NATO

Military Branches (Just list names of official Armed Forces Branches): Army, Air Force, Navy, Royal Guard, Military Emergency Unit

Active Duty: 121,000 Men
Reserve Duty: 4,770 Men
Total Manpower: 23,136,375

Tanks: 327
AFVs: 2,023
SPA: 95
Towed Artillery: 140
Rocket Projectors: 0

Fighters: 137
Dedicated Attack: 12
Transports: 46
Trainers: 162
Special Mission: 17
Helicopters: 162
Attack Helicopters: 19

Aircraft Carriers: 1
Destroyers: 0
Frigates: 11
Corvettes: 0
Submarines: 3
Patrol: 23
Mine Warfare: 6

Other Military Information: N/A

History Changes (Subject to review and approval by OP and Co-OP): None


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Update: apparently it’s bleating sheep.

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Revlona
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Revlona » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:31 am

The Vaktovian Empire wrote:Newest version of the map, Version 1.2, showing addition of China, I manually added the Diaoyu Islands as well as the South China Sea Islands, but did not color the South China Sea Islands as there are so many and if we get more Southeast Asia players they're just going to be disputed anyway. Diaoyu Islands colored red as they're disputed between China and Japan. Taiwan colored half red as its disputed with the PRC but we know it's an independent government.....

https://i.ibb.co/Sd5jbqd/2021-A-New-Decade.png


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Newne Carriebean7
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Newne Carriebean7 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:52 am

Chewion wrote:Is there anyone’s valid app I haven’t replied to?

Mine.
Krugeristan wrote:This is Carrie you're referring to. I'm not going to expect him to do something sane anytime soon. He can take something as simple as a sandwich, and make me never look at sandwiches with a straight face ever again.

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Bentus
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Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Bentus » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:19 am

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Versail
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Founded: May 21, 2012
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Versail » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:50 am

Chewion wrote:Is there anyone’s valid app I haven’t replied to?

Not really an app, but I did reserve Germany.
What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, Whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or in the holy name of liberty or democracy?~ Gandhi.
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Mathuvan Union
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:52 am

Chewion wrote:Is there anyone’s valid app I haven’t replied to?

Spain is waiting to ascend to greatness, your honour
Behind the free market lies the iron fist of the state - the one thing I learned from The Blaatschapen, excluding how to say sheep in dutch.
Update: apparently it’s bleating sheep.

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Langenia
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Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Langenia » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:54 am

Can we link the IC in the OP? It would make things easier for me.
LANGENIA
Fatherland, Unity, and Valor
Overview|Armed Forces|LangenArPort| Incumbent President: Nicolas Furia
Langenia is an MT Latin American nation, the result of European powers not successfully colonizing the region but leaving their mark. We outpollo PolloHut.
Military oversight? Checks on executive powers? Nah.
Our foreign policy: a t t a c k. Also, war?

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Mathuvan Union
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:56 am

Langenia wrote:Can we link the IC in the OP? It would make things easier for me.

it's right beneath the banner.
Behind the free market lies the iron fist of the state - the one thing I learned from The Blaatschapen, excluding how to say sheep in dutch.
Update: apparently it’s bleating sheep.

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