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Postby Tysklandia » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:57 am

Abbeyverne wrote:
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Is operation cinder a thing? I would like to make a bit about trying to stop it. It would make for a near 3 way battle


It is if you decide to make it one.


Operation cinder is now a thing! If I let this event occur, who would control the imperial's that want to enact operation cinder? Would I be allowed to post in the perspective of both during the battle of fondor?

Imagine the panic, the chaos... 2 imperial ships blasting at eachother as the NR rolls in.

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Postby Abbeyverne » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:59 am

Tysklandia wrote:
Abbeyverne wrote:
It is if you decide to make it one.


Operation cinder is now a thing! If I let this event occur, who would control the imperial's that want to enact operation cinder? Would I be allowed to post in the perspective of both during the battle of fondor?

Imagine the panic, the chaos... 2 imperial ships blasting at eachother as the NR rolls in.


Yeah! So you could be both if you wanted too... or Kaine could do it.

In continuation to your thing: And then what appears to be an Imperial Task Force shows up, and Kaine's like "wut??" and it starts blasting all the Imps cuz it's the TC's ISD's and Incursors...

OP of Empire's End RP, Frequenter of P2TM, and part of the F7 delegation along with -Astoria, Valentine Z, Western Fardelshufflestein, La Xinga, and Nooooooooooooooo.
“...My only complaint is that this guy seems to have plot armor thicker than the hull of a battleship. What’s this Holy Grail thing, anyway? I tried looking it up using foreign information networks but I kept seeing footage of knights being butchered by a rabbit... I don’t think that was a legitimate source.”

...and Josephus sorta started a nuclear war, so I'll just ignore the fact that Kakistopia has almost 50% of deaths due in some part to the God-Empress, and I'll also ignore that Josephus XII was raised as a child-soldier, and I'll say Josephus is the more horrible leader.

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Postby Tysklandia » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:51 am

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Operation cinder is now a thing! If I let this event occur, who would control the imperial's that want to enact operation cinder? Would I be allowed to post in the perspective of both during the battle of fondor?

Imagine the panic, the chaos... 2 imperial ships blasting at eachother as the NR rolls in.


Yeah! So you could be both if you wanted too... or Kaine could do it.

In continuation to your thing: And then what appears to be an Imperial Task Force shows up, and Kaine's like "wut??" and it starts blasting all the Imps cuz it's the TC's ISD's and Incursors...


That is all good with me. Arlissa having figured out the Emperor had SOME kind of contingency plan that centered around weapons stored in Fondor seems reasonable. So it would give a reason why she would travel to Fondor and then attempt to petition someone to help her stop it.

Admiral Farren would already be spread out around Fondor, likely having arrived a week orso prior, with a selection of his ships in drydock, being repaired and refueled. He himself would likely be in negotiations with the local Moff and with other warlords to see what the situation in the core is like.
Arlissa goes to convince him to help him stop this foolish plan, then someone shows up to ENACT the plan and THEN the turbolasers start blasting.

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Postby Abbeyverne » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:56 am

Tysklandia wrote:
Abbeyverne wrote:
Yeah! So you could be both if you wanted too... or Kaine could do it.

In continuation to your thing: And then what appears to be an Imperial Task Force shows up, and Kaine's like "wut??" and it starts blasting all the Imps cuz it's the TC's ISD's and Incursors...


That is all good with me. Arlissa having figured out the Emperor had SOME kind of contingency plan that centered around weapons stored in Fondor seems reasonable. So it would give a reason why she would travel to Fondor and then attempt to petition someone to help her stop it.

Admiral Farren would already be spread out around Fondor, likely having arrived a week orso prior, with a selection of his ships in drydock, being repaired and refueled. He himself would likely be in negotiations with the local Moff and with other warlords to see what the situation in the core is like.
Arlissa goes to convince him to help him stop this foolish plan, then someone shows up to ENACT the plan and THEN the turbolasers start blasting.


Ok. Kaine can initiate Cinder, which from now on I will be styling "Operation: Cinder" and then the NR spoils the party, the TC swings by and it's all out chaos.

OP of Empire's End RP, Frequenter of P2TM, and part of the F7 delegation along with -Astoria, Valentine Z, Western Fardelshufflestein, La Xinga, and Nooooooooooooooo.
“...My only complaint is that this guy seems to have plot armor thicker than the hull of a battleship. What’s this Holy Grail thing, anyway? I tried looking it up using foreign information networks but I kept seeing footage of knights being butchered by a rabbit... I don’t think that was a legitimate source.”

...and Josephus sorta started a nuclear war, so I'll just ignore the fact that Kakistopia has almost 50% of deaths due in some part to the God-Empress, and I'll also ignore that Josephus XII was raised as a child-soldier, and I'll say Josephus is the more horrible leader.

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Postby Tysklandia » Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:05 pm

Abbeyverne wrote:
Tysklandia wrote:
That is all good with me. Arlissa having figured out the Emperor had SOME kind of contingency plan that centered around weapons stored in Fondor seems reasonable. So it would give a reason why she would travel to Fondor and then attempt to petition someone to help her stop it.

Admiral Farren would already be spread out around Fondor, likely having arrived a week orso prior, with a selection of his ships in drydock, being repaired and refueled. He himself would likely be in negotiations with the local Moff and with other warlords to see what the situation in the core is like.
Arlissa goes to convince him to help him stop this foolish plan, then someone shows up to ENACT the plan and THEN the turbolasers start blasting.


Ok. Kaine can initiate Cinder, which from now on I will be styling "Operation: Cinder" and then the NR spoils the party, the TC swings by and it's all out chaos.


All we need for this to work is a little bit of time to post before the NR swoops in and ruins the party

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Postby Abbeyverne » Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:12 pm

Tysklandia wrote:
Abbeyverne wrote:
Ok. Kaine can initiate Cinder, which from now on I will be styling "Operation: Cinder" and then the NR spoils the party, the TC swings by and it's all out chaos.


All we need for this to work is a little bit of time to post before the NR swoops in and ruins the party


That you will have. I will post first, with my ask to the NR, then they would have to respond before coming over. So you ought to.

OP of Empire's End RP, Frequenter of P2TM, and part of the F7 delegation along with -Astoria, Valentine Z, Western Fardelshufflestein, La Xinga, and Nooooooooooooooo.
“...My only complaint is that this guy seems to have plot armor thicker than the hull of a battleship. What’s this Holy Grail thing, anyway? I tried looking it up using foreign information networks but I kept seeing footage of knights being butchered by a rabbit... I don’t think that was a legitimate source.”

...and Josephus sorta started a nuclear war, so I'll just ignore the fact that Kakistopia has almost 50% of deaths due in some part to the God-Empress, and I'll also ignore that Josephus XII was raised as a child-soldier, and I'll say Josephus is the more horrible leader.

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Postby Arthurs Corner » Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:47 pm

Abbeyverne wrote:
Tysklandia wrote:
Operation cinder is now a thing! If I let this event occur, who would control the imperial's that want to enact operation cinder? Would I be allowed to post in the perspective of both during the battle of fondor?

Imagine the panic, the chaos... 2 imperial ships blasting at eachother as the NR rolls in.


Yeah! So you could be both if you wanted too... or Kaine could do it.

In continuation to your thing: And then what appears to be an Imperial Task Force shows up, and Kaine's like "wut??" and it starts blasting all the Imps cuz it's the TC's ISD's and Incursors...


Maybe a Tetan "diplomatic force" that was on its way to pressure the local forces into a reciprocal trade agreement arrives too?

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Postby Tysklandia » Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:53 pm

Strala wrote:
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I can probably afford to drop one of the MC75s and then a couple of my frigates and corvettes, but this kind of fleet will for the most part be operating in sections patrolling the Sullust sector, so I'm not sure how much smaller I can make it while still fulfilling its role within the NR

I know, but I would also need a upsized fleet since I'm pushing for the core. You can probably keep it that size and I'll just update my flotilla


I can't find your fleet :/ Just the Emancipator itself. But you could make the fleet a bit bigger. If you want to fight smaller battles, their could be a 100 and 1 reasons why the entire fleet can't be deployed at that exact point in time. A proper large rebel flotille could be near the size of the fleet that attacked Scarrif I reckon.

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Postby Tysklandia » Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:02 pm

Arthurs Corner wrote:
Abbeyverne wrote:
Yeah! So you could be both if you wanted too... or Kaine could do it.

In continuation to your thing: And then what appears to be an Imperial Task Force shows up, and Kaine's like "wut??" and it starts blasting all the Imps cuz it's the TC's ISD's and Incursors...


Maybe a Tetan "diplomatic force" that was on its way to pressure the local forces into a reciprocal trade agreement arrives too?


Too many "sudden" arrivals is a bit iffy though, the most reasonable reason for Titan command to arrive is due to calls for help, considering they are so close.
For both the Tetans and Titan command to arrive suddenly in the nick of time would be a bit Deus Ex. The Kuati Holdouts won't have anything to do with Fondor, they would be too busy with their own stuff and chaos in their region, especially with the NR creeping ever closer.

If I might suggest an alternative:
If the Tetan's are present during the NR assault and the shennanigans that happen right before, would be more likely that the Tetan's would already be present. I reckon trade negotiations would take a long while or maybe the Moff isn't entirely keen on making deals with Tetans when other, "loyal" (Taskforce 117) Imperial ships are in orbit ?
But then again, the Tetan's would at this point be an Imperial splinter force right? Neither Titan Command, nor the Kuati Holdouts have made such a daring ultimatum. Things would mayhaps be tense between you and other Imperials, depending on their loyalty.

It could be a solution as to why you are creeping about the system or waiting in orbit. Admiral Farren would likely be attempting to convince the Moff/governor not to make deals with outright seccessionists.

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Postby Strala » Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:41 pm

Tysklandia wrote:
Strala wrote:I know, but I would also need a upsized fleet since I'm pushing for the core. You can probably keep it that size and I'll just update my flotilla


I can't find your fleet :/ Just the Emancipator itself. But you could make the fleet a bit bigger. If you want to fight smaller battles, their could be a 100 and 1 reasons why the entire fleet can't be deployed at that exact point in time. A proper large rebel flotille could be near the size of the fleet that attacked Scarrif I reckon.

Name:I don't know what to name it
Leader:Adm. Liu Bao Rui
Type: New Republic Flotilla
Number of Members:
Number and Types of Ships:
[spoiler=Is this too much?]
Capital Ships
1 x Modified Imperial I class Star Destroyer: Emancipator
1 x MC75 Star Cruiser

Cruisers and Frigates
3 x Dreadnought class Heavy Cruiser
4 x EF-76 Nubelon-B class Frigate

Corvettes, Escorts, and Support Ships
10 x CR70 Corvette
5 x CR90 Corvette
30 x X4 Gunship
10 x GR-75 Medium Transport

Starfighters
T-65 X-wing starfighter(3/8)
BTL Y-wing starfighter(1/4)
RZ-1 A-wing interceptor(1/4)
UT-60D U-wing starfighter(1/8)
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Postby Elerian » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:19 pm

Name: Inquisitor Jerec
Faction: Nominally Imperial Remnant
Appearance:
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Personality: Ambitious, Manipulative, and Haughty
Skills: Knowledgeable of both Jedi and Sith forms and lore, Form-II Lightsaber Master, and a Talented Force wielder
Weapons: Red Lightsaber
Ship: The Vengeance, Vengeance-class Dreadnought
Rank: High Inquisitor of the Empire, Jedi Master (Formerly)
Bio: Jerec is a powerful Miraluka former Jedi Master and Jedi archaeologist who turned to the dark side under the Empire, becoming a feared High Inquisitor during the Galactic Civil War. Jerec was apprenticed to the Jedi archaeologist, Jocasta Nu, and became a Jedi archaeologist himself, versed in knowledge of the Jedi's past, especially the Sith. A Jedi Master during the Clone Wars, he was on a long-term deployment searching for ancient knowledge in the Unknown Regions when Order 66 was issued. Upon his return, Jerec was found by the Inquisitorius and turned to the dark side.

Jerec served the Empire as an Inquisitor for many years. However, Jerec is in truth devoted only to himself. One of the most powerful Dark Jedi in the Empire, Jerec continually sought ways to increase his power and take the Empire for himself. One of his chief obsessions was the Valley of the Jedi on the lost planet of Ruusan, which contained vast amounts of trapped Force power. After the Emperor's death at Endor, Jerec formed a band of seven Dark Jedi to seek out the Valley.

Name: Vengeance Battlegroup
Leader: Jerec
Type: Personal Battlegroup
Number of Members: Many Tens of Thousands
Number and Types of Ships:
Super Star Destroyer Vengeance
4 Imperial II-class Star Destroyers
7 EF76 Nebulon-B escort frigates
Base(s): Base of Operations at Sulon
Resources: Inquisitor Jerec used his position within the Empire to gain considerable personal profit, to the tune of Billions of Credits. Additionally, one of the Dark Jedi under Jerec, Yun, killed his Mineral Baron father and pledged his family’s assets to Jerec’s mission.
Description: The Vengeance Battlegroup is the small task force assembled by Inquisitor Jerec to complete his goal of finding the Lost Valley of the Jedi. Jerec used his own personal wealth to purchase and build the Vengeance SSD, and used contacts within the Remnant to build a small fleet for himself.
Backstory: After turning coat to join the Empire’s Inquisitorius, Jerec used his position and influence to gain a vast wealth and following. Rather than murder the fugitive Jedi that he found during his time as an Inquisitor, Jerec opted instead to try and turn them to the Dark side so that they might follow him instead. Jerec formed an intense rivalry with Vader, believing that he was more worthy of being an apprentice of Palpatine.

For his part, Palpatine recognized Jerec’s ambition and sought to stunt his growth by withholding his own knowledge of the Sith. As time went on, Jerec grew stronger and came to covet the Imperial throne. In order to become stronger than both Vader and Palpatine, Jerec became obsessed with finding the Lost Valley of the Jedi. With the destruction of the second Death Star over Endor, Jerec’s primary rivals to the throne were dead, and all that remained was finding the Lost Valley.

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Postby Kenobot » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:19 pm

Abbeyverne wrote:
Tysklandia wrote:In the opening post, just before the Fondor situation is introduced, could you include a snippit describing the overal situation in 4ABY? Cementing in the RP's lore, what the mix of EU and Disney cannon lore is applicable for me as an Imperial Remnant.
The radically different paths of the immediate aftermath of the Emperor in EU and Cannon will be a big factor in deciding what my characters will eventually do.


I will do that.

Tysklandia wrote:I think I cleaned up my app to something passable.

Now we wait for OP to return :p


Here he is!

Kenobot wrote:I gather we have almost too many Imperials (I mean this is only technically Imperial, but practically independent) now, so this could all be a waste but here we go anyway

WIP - Faction section complete, just finishing off bio

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Name: Darth Herlucan/ Revar Tulin

Faction Name: The Sith Empire (Imperial 19th Fleet)

Appearance: Darth Herlucan

Age: 25

Personality: Revar Tulin, the self-anointed Darth Herlucan, is a twisted and dark creature of the dark side; one who is quick to anger and incredibly impatient, Revar is a being of rage whose incomplete training leaves much to be desired when compared to his former Master, Darth Sidious.

Skills: As a former Hand of the Emperor, Revar is proficient in the use of melee weapons and blasters and is force-sensitive. While no true Sith Lord yet, his training under the tutelage of Emperor Palpatine has put him on the path to great power.

Weapon: Red lightsaber, SE-14r light repeating blaster

Ship: Bellator Class Star Destroyer Rage

Rank: Self-Appointed Dark Lord of the Sith, formerly Hand of the Emperor


Bio: Born on the world of Dantooine at the dawn of the Clone Wars in 22BBY to a long-standing farming family, Revar Tulin may not have amounted to much had the galaxy not had plans for him. And so it was that mere months after his birth, in 21BBY the Confederacy of Independent Systems and their armies of battle droids descended upon the surface of the planet and began occupying the planet. During the occupation, Revar's parents both joined the resistance forces against the separatists and led raids against the droid armies time and time again, until towards the end of 21BBY Jedi Master Mace Windu and his Clone troopers launched their operation to liberate the planet. It was at this time that Revar's parents noticed that there was something rather...different about their child; he was force-sensitive. Upon the liberation of the planet, Mace Windu approached the Tulin family and made it clear that the Jedi would return for Revar, but that with the ongoing war and given the child's age, it was too early to take him to the Jedi Temple. Continuing their cooperation with the Republic and it's Grand Army, Revar's parents became part of Dantooine's Planetary Defence Force which was to become its first line of defence against the Separatists. In the final days of the Clone Wars, the Jedi returned to Dantooine to retrieve Revar for his Jedi training. The Jedi Master with his escort of a dozen clones entered the family's house to meet the young Revar. As the Jedi Master crouched down to introduce himself, Revar saw a flash of blue light illuminating the doorframe of his room and heard the faint words that would forever haunt him "Execute Order 66". Revar never did learn the Jedi's name for mere seconds after hearing those words he was shot in the back by his clone escort. Telling his parents that there had been a rebellion led by the Jedi against the Supreme Chancellor, the clones then left the house and returned to their ship. They would return; and when they did, they wouldn't be leaving again.

Outraged at the seizure of power by Palpatine as the Emperor of the newly born Galactic Empire, Revar's parents left their positions in the Planetary Defence Force and joined the new resistance force growing on Dantooine. With the downfall of the Jedi and knowledge of a force sensitive child who had not yet been corrupted by the Jedi, Emperor Palpatine tasked a platoon of his new Stormtroopers to take custody of the child and bring it to him. When the Stormtroopers arrived, Revar's parents assumed that they had come for them since they had conducted numerous raids on Imperial installations, so they opened fire on the Imperials. It was no use; Revar watched on as his parents fell before him. After being kidnapped by the Emperor, he was trained by Sidious and countless other instructors including Boba Fett and Bossk over the next 15 years until Sidious believed he was ready to carry out his first assignment. Now aged 18, he was ready to crush the Rebellion, but Sidious had other tasks for him first... Arriving on Dromund Kaas for the first time, Revar believed the planet to be a simple jungle world much like Felucia or Dagobah. As he approached the coordinates given to him by Sidious, his eyes widened as the Dark Temple appeared before his eyes. The great monument to the Sith Empire continued to stand long after the civilization that had created it has ceased to exist. Now, Sidious had tasked Revar to retrieve as much ancient Sith knowledge and artifacts as possible. Taking an interest in what he was gathering; Revar listened to every holocron, read every Sith text and attempted to wield every ancient weapon in the temple.


Name: Sith Empire (Imperial 19th Fleet)

Leader: Darth Herlucan
Type: Imperial Remnant
Number of Members: 500,000
Number and Types of Ships: 1 Bellator-Class Star Destroyer Rage, 3 Imperial-II Class Star Destroyers, 5 Imperial I-Class Star Destroyers, 10 Victory-II Class Star Destroyers, 20 Tartan Patrol Cruisers
Base(s): Dromund Kaas, Korriban, Ziost
Resources: N/A
Description: Based upon it's namesake of millennia ago, the Sith Empire seeks to do what its predecessor and Sidious could not; take and hold the galaxy. Darth Herlucan believes it was the reliance on technological terrors such as the Death Stars and lack of Sith influence which proved the downfall of Sidious' Galactic Empire and so has used the old Sith Empire as the model on which he will build his new state.
Backstory: Witness to the great power wielded by force users such as Darth Vader, the Emperor and Revar himself and disillusioned with the technological constructs of the Empire following the disastrous Battle of Endor, the Imperial 19th Fleet with its headquarters on Dromund Kaas, proclaimed the rebirth of the ancient Sith Empire of old with Revar Tulin at its helm. No more would the Imperial Bureaucrats such as Tarkin nor heretical beliefs such as the Rule of Two hold the Sith back from their birthright; control of the Galaxy. Sidious' final order to Revar a year previous had been to reclaim the ruins of Kaas City from the jungles of Dromund Kaas and to repair what he could and scour the ruins for knowledge and artifacts. Learning much of the former Sith Empire from his time on the planet, Revar became obsessed with his Sith predecessors, something which the Stormtroopers and Imperial Navy troops under his command soon came to share; enraptured by the stories of Grand Moff Odile Vaiken who had come from nothing and in the end became the first Imperial Grand Moff and was responsible for rearming the Sith from their darkest hour.

Upon the news of the destruction of the Second Death Star and the deaths of Darth Sidious and Darth Vader, Revar proclaimed himself the successor to Sidious as Darth Herlucan and declared an end to the rule of two. While not yet declaring himself Sith Emperor, he was claiming it in all but name. While several captains in orbit decided to desert after receiving this news, almost all of the 19th Fleet which was under Revar's command swore fealty to him as their new leader. Over the last six months, the Sith Empire has expanded to encompass not just Dromund Kaas, but also Ziost and Korriban; ancient core worlds of the Sith. All the while, Sidious' final order has continued to be carried out, with Kaas City cleared of jungle and mostly repaired. With his seat of power secured and his fleet's loyalty secured, Darth Herlucan now prepares to expand his empire and crush the rebellion once and for all.


Okeyday, thou art accepted. This'll be interesting, a revived Sith Empire!

Thank you! I'll get to finishing off the bio now!

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Kenobot wrote:I wasn't suggesting Boba trained him immediately when he was like 3, but further down the line like when he was 10 (12BBY) which makes more sense.

Bio is still to be finished. There will be some fun encounters such as that in it.

Except if you've just been defeated by the Rebellion and your entire state has collapsed around you, looking to examples like Grand Moff Vaiken for an almost direct comparison isn't totally wild. Would it be the only thing to convince the Stormtroopers and Imperial Navy officers that the Hand of the Emperor should be the one they pledge their loyalty to? No. Would it help, yes. I'll be elaborating more on him winning over the troops in the later sections of the bio to come.

The Rule of Two would have been something a Hand of the Emperor was aware of. He wouldn't openly say it's the end of the rule of two much like Darth Bane never proclaimed to the galaxy the rule of two, so I'll amend that bit

A SITH WOULD NOT OPERATE PUBLICLY AFTER ENDOR again Palpatine wouldn't just let anyone view a sith holocron not even mara jade who was by all accounts his number 1 hand didn't view one why would he allow some random one to do so? Palpatine didn't believe in sharing power and letting a hand view a sith holocron would be seen as a form of respect that was not in his character. "During training, Palpatine cultivated the Hand's latent Force abilities, but avoided providing Jedi or Sith training." so hee most certainly wouldn't have allowed that without fundamentally changing who Palpatine was a character.

Palpatine was not present when these holocrons were found and so wouldn't have been aware of this. I think you're missing the point of my character; he believes it was characters like Tarkin and technological overreliance like the Death Stars that was the downfall of the Galactic Empire and so seeks to restore the Sith Order of old where they were not bound by the rule of two and Sith dominated Imperial politics.
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Postby Tysklandia » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:46 pm

Kenobot wrote:
Abbeyverne wrote:
I will do that.



Here he is!



Okeyday, thou art accepted. This'll be interesting, a revived Sith Empire!

Thank you! I'll get to finishing off the bio now!

Draos wrote:A SITH WOULD NOT OPERATE PUBLICLY AFTER ENDOR again Palpatine wouldn't just let anyone view a sith holocron not even mara jade who was by all accounts his number 1 hand didn't view one why would he allow some random one to do so? Palpatine didn't believe in sharing power and letting a hand view a sith holocron would be seen as a form of respect that was not in his character. "During training, Palpatine cultivated the Hand's latent Force abilities, but avoided providing Jedi or Sith training." so hee most certainly wouldn't have allowed that without fundamentally changing who Palpatine was a character.

Palpatine was not present when these holocrons were found and so wouldn't have been aware of this. I think you're missing the point of my character; he believes it was characters like Tarkin and technological overreliance like the Death Stars that was the downfall of the Galactic Empire and so seeks to restore the Sith Order of old where they were not bound by the rule of two and Sith dominated Imperial politics.


As I said before, the only real "hole" I see here would be how he would gain so many followers. Just the promise of a person as powerful as vader leading them causing so many to circle around him seems a bit vague. Vader wasn't really well liked, by most, if any, navy officer. Without changing much in the faction or background, I would expand a bit on a plausible way on how he gained followers. The easiest way mayhaps being a personal alliance WITH a high ranking member in the navy, Army or local government. That way, your character only needs to convince a handful of people to join him, in order to achieve a large following and military base.

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Postby Strala » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:47 pm

Tysklandia wrote:
Kenobot wrote:Thank you! I'll get to finishing off the bio now!


Palpatine was not present when these holocrons were found and so wouldn't have been aware of this. I think you're missing the point of my character; he believes it was characters like Tarkin and technological overreliance like the Death Stars that was the downfall of the Galactic Empire and so seeks to restore the Sith Order of old where they were not bound by the rule of two and Sith dominated Imperial politics.


As I said before, the only real "hole" I see here would be how he would gain so many followers. Just the promise of a person as powerful as vader leading them causing so many to circle around him seems a bit vague. Vader wasn't really well liked, by most, if any, navy officer. Without changing much in the faction or background, I would expand a bit on a plausible way on how he gained followers. The easiest way mayhaps being a personal alliance WITH a high ranking member in the navy, Army or local government. That way, your character only needs to convince a handful of people to join him, in order to achieve a large following and military base.

So what do you think about the size of my fleet?

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Postby Arthurs Corner » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:58 pm

Tysklandia wrote:
Arthurs Corner wrote:
Maybe a Tetan "diplomatic force" that was on its way to pressure the local forces into a reciprocal trade agreement arrives too?


Too many "sudden" arrivals is a bit iffy though, the most reasonable reason for Titan command to arrive is due to calls for help, considering they are so close.
For both the Tetans and Titan command to arrive suddenly in the nick of time would be a bit Deus Ex. The Kuati Holdouts won't have anything to do with Fondor, they would be too busy with their own stuff and chaos in their region, especially with the NR creeping ever closer.

If I might suggest an alternative:
If the Tetan's are present during the NR assault and the shennanigans that happen right before, would be more likely that the Tetan's would already be present. I reckon trade negotiations would take a long while or maybe the Moff isn't entirely keen on making deals with Tetans when other, "loyal" (Taskforce 117) Imperial ships are in orbit ?
But then again, the Tetan's would at this point be an Imperial splinter force right? Neither Titan Command, nor the Kuati Holdouts have made such a daring ultimatum. Things would mayhaps be tense between you and other Imperials, depending on their loyalty.

It could be a solution as to why you are creeping about the system or waiting in orbit. Admiral Farren would likely be attempting to convince the Moff/governor not to make deals with outright seccessionists.


was actually leaning towards changing it to this myself. Having them be present beforehand is definitely better than having them arrive in the middle of a battle. Potentially they will even work with the main remnant to fight off the invading forces, in order to ensure a continuation of trade arrangements

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Postby Tysklandia » Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:07 pm

Strala wrote:
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As I said before, the only real "hole" I see here would be how he would gain so many followers. Just the promise of a person as powerful as vader leading them causing so many to circle around him seems a bit vague. Vader wasn't really well liked, by most, if any, navy officer. Without changing much in the faction or background, I would expand a bit on a plausible way on how he gained followers. The easiest way mayhaps being a personal alliance WITH a high ranking member in the navy, Army or local government. That way, your character only needs to convince a handful of people to join him, in order to achieve a large following and military base.

So what do you think about the size of my fleet?


It's a decent single attack force. If you want to run soley with that one unit, that is no issue. It has enough secondary ships to perform secondary missions. But if you lose ships, you would likely be in trouble (But as an admiral, you can likely request more ships in that case).

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Postby Strala » Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:12 pm

Tysklandia wrote:
Strala wrote:So what do you think about the size of my fleet?


It's a decent single attack force. If you want to run soley with that one unit, that is no issue. It has enough secondary ships to perform secondary missions. But if you lose ships, you would likely be in trouble (But as an admiral, you can likely request more ships in that case).

Okay. Is it fine if I made it slightly larger like adding another one or two MC75 and a few more Dreadnoughts or Nebulon Bs?

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Postby Tysklandia » Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:41 pm

Strala wrote:
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It's a decent single attack force. If you want to run soley with that one unit, that is no issue. It has enough secondary ships to perform secondary missions. But if you lose ships, you would likely be in trouble (But as an admiral, you can likely request more ships in that case).

Okay. Is it fine if I made it slightly larger like adding another one or two MC75 and a few more Dreadnoughts or Nebulon Bs?


It depends on your goals. Playing the New republic is somewhat crude as I suppose nobody really plays "The New Republic", but as a part of it. If you want to play as an influential admiral, that organises large offensives and strikes, you could say you are an admiral that has multiple squadrons, if not fleets that he controls.

IMO, the rebellion would only be scratching the itch of proper ship production at this stage (although expanding), with them only recently being able to hold stable ground in the Mid-Rim.

A single fleet would likely hold one to three large ships, depending on how powerful it is. Star destroyers or equivalents. But the rebels won't have a large number of these, considering their enjoyment of different tactics and lack of such numbers of capital ships.
Per large ship, the rebels would likely enjoy a far larger number of refitted civilian ships or improvised ships, corvettes and light-frigates. maybe anywhere from 12 to 30 lighter ships, corvettes and light-frigates per heavy-cruiser or star destroyer class ship.

You also somewhat need to make the choice if you want to be a major New republic Admiral in command of large offensives or if you are someone who is part of the New republic military and tasked with mayhaps achieving smaller goals or being a part of the Fleet as a whole.
If you want to be able to organise larger offensives, you would likely need a bunch more ships. A mix of captured Imperial, refitted/repaired Clone wars Era (both CIS and Republic) ships and whatever else you can scrounge together would fit the vibe.

I'd also pick a homebase somewhere or maybe steal ideas from that whole Starhawk thing the Squadrons game has going on ( but no starhawk, that is a Mary Sue ship :/ Tractor beaming a god damn Excecutor and not being blown to bits, tsssssshhhh)

PS: REBEL LUCREHULK?
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Postby Strala » Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:58 pm

Tysklandia wrote:
Strala wrote:Okay. Is it fine if I made it slightly larger like adding another one or two MC75 and a few more Dreadnoughts or Nebulon Bs?


It depends on your goals. Playing the New republic is somewhat crude as I suppose nobody really plays "The New Republic", but as a part of it. If you want to play as an influential admiral, that organises large offensives and strikes, you could say you are an admiral that has multiple squadrons, if not fleets that he controls.

IMO, the rebellion would only be scratching the itch of proper ship production at this stage (although expanding), with them only recently being able to hold stable ground in the Mid-Rim.

A single fleet would likely hold one to three large ships, depending on how powerful it is. Star destroyers or equivalents. But the rebels won't have a large number of these, considering their enjoyment of different tactics and lack of such numbers of capital ships.
Per large ship, the rebels would likely enjoy a far larger number of refitted civilian ships or improvised ships, corvettes and light-frigates. maybe anywhere from 12 to 30 lighter ships, corvettes and light-frigates per heavy-cruiser or star destroyer class ship.

You also somewhat need to make the choice if you want to be a major New republic Admiral in command of large offensives or if you are someone who is part of the New republic military and tasked with mayhaps achieving smaller goals or being a part of the Fleet as a whole.
If you want to be able to organise larger offensives, you would likely need a bunch more ships. A mix of captured Imperial, refitted/repaired Clone wars Era (both CIS and Republic) ships and whatever else you can scrounge together would fit the vibe.

I'd also pick a homebase somewhere or maybe steal ideas from that whole Starhawk thing the Squadrons game has going on ( but no starhawk, that is a Mary Sue ship :/ Tractor beaming a god damn Excecutor and not being blown to bits, tsssssshhhh)

PS: REBEL LUCREHULK?

Sure I guess I'll do that. I don't think there's going to be many other NR players so I'll just update my character

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Postby Lotrisia » Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:13 am

Strala wrote:
Tysklandia wrote:
It depends on your goals. Playing the New republic is somewhat crude as I suppose nobody really plays "The New Republic", but as a part of it. If you want to play as an influential admiral, that organises large offensives and strikes, you could say you are an admiral that has multiple squadrons, if not fleets that he controls.

IMO, the rebellion would only be scratching the itch of proper ship production at this stage (although expanding), with them only recently being able to hold stable ground in the Mid-Rim.

A single fleet would likely hold one to three large ships, depending on how powerful it is. Star destroyers or equivalents. But the rebels won't have a large number of these, considering their enjoyment of different tactics and lack of such numbers of capital ships.
Per large ship, the rebels would likely enjoy a far larger number of refitted civilian ships or improvised ships, corvettes and light-frigates. maybe anywhere from 12 to 30 lighter ships, corvettes and light-frigates per heavy-cruiser or star destroyer class ship.

You also somewhat need to make the choice if you want to be a major New republic Admiral in command of large offensives or if you are someone who is part of the New republic military and tasked with mayhaps achieving smaller goals or being a part of the Fleet as a whole.
If you want to be able to organise larger offensives, you would likely need a bunch more ships. A mix of captured Imperial, refitted/repaired Clone wars Era (both CIS and Republic) ships and whatever else you can scrounge together would fit the vibe.

I'd also pick a homebase somewhere or maybe steal ideas from that whole Starhawk thing the Squadrons game has going on ( but no starhawk, that is a Mary Sue ship :/ Tractor beaming a god damn Excecutor and not being blown to bits, tsssssshhhh)

PS: REBEL LUCREHULK?

Sure I guess I'll do that. I don't think there's going to be many other NR players so I'll just update my character

I'd reckon, since you're in command of a fairly substantial Core push, you can probably get away with having anywhere up to 6 ISD-equivalent capital ships, though they wouldn't all be MCs, and then a substantial accompanying fleet, especially if you're planning on splitting your fleet somewhat. The Imperial Remnant factions have a shitload of capital ships after all, and even if we play the usual NR strategies we'll still want local superiority. You can probably mount a pretty substantial amount of destroyers like the Victory-1 and Venator as older ships taken/stolen out of mothballs, perhaps even having them make up the bulk of the fleet in question's firepower
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Postby Ormata » Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:34 am

Who the heck owns Fondor, precisely?

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Postby Tysklandia » Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:38 am

Ormata wrote:Who the heck owns Fondor, precisely?


I assume we are taking a lot from battlefront 2 in the Fondor thing. So I reckon it would be a local mof, trying to keep things stable.

The imperial government still technically exists and operates on corrussant. It's just that a lot of people have stopped really lisyening to them. I assume the moff of Fondor is weighing his options, but still following directives from corrussant, at the very least on the surface.

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Postby Ormata » Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:41 am

Tysklandia wrote:
Ormata wrote:Who the heck owns Fondor, precisely?


I assume we are taking a lot from battlefront 2 in the Fondor thing. So I reckon it would be a local mof, trying to keep things stable.

The imperial government still technically exists and operates on corrussant. It's just that a lot of people have stopped really lisyening to them. I assume the moff of Fondor is weighing his options, but still following directives from corrussant, at the very least on the surface.


I would like a name of the local Moff and, possibly, a short descriptor of who the heck he is and his history, personality, what sort of man/woman they are.

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Postby Tysklandia » Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:14 am

Ormata wrote:
Tysklandia wrote:
I assume we are taking a lot from battlefront 2 in the Fondor thing. So I reckon it would be a local mof, trying to keep things stable.

The imperial government still technically exists and operates on corrussant. It's just that a lot of people have stopped really lisyening to them. I assume the moff of Fondor is weighing his options, but still following directives from corrussant, at the very least on the surface.


I would like a name of the local Moff and, possibly, a short descriptor of who the heck he is and his history, personality, what sort of man/woman they are.


OP can add that to the Opening post I reckon.

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Postby Ormata » Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:25 am

Tysklandia wrote:
Ormata wrote:
I would like a name of the local Moff and, possibly, a short descriptor of who the heck he is and his history, personality, what sort of man/woman they are.


OP can add that to the Opening post I reckon.


Agreed. Would also like a small info-blurb on Fondor's status (defenses, fleet, shipyards mainly).

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