War of Rights(OOC)(OPEN)

[Revlona]

Thats still just a brigade sized force? He'd be a corps or division commander with that rank

Should I throw in another couple of infantry regiments in there?

i mean it depends, how large of a force are you intending to command?

[Langenia]

Should I throw in another couple of infantry regiments in there?

i mean it depends, how large of a force are you intending to command?

A division-sized force. Something that can move quickly. Should I make it combined-arms now?

[Revlona]

i mean it depends, how large of a force are you intending to command?

A division-sized force. Something that can move quickly. Should I make it combined-arms now?

A division would be about 8,000 men.

An infantry brigade is about 1500-2500 men made up of 2-5 regiments.

At this point separate infantry and cavalry brigades along with Artillery batteries would make up your force

[Revlona]

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/arti ... ganization

This is a very helpful website that explains how civil war armies were organized

[Bolslania]

You ready for a glorious battle Rev?

[Revlona]

You ready for a glorious battle Rev?

very much so

[Bolslania]

You ready for a glorious battle Rev?

very much so

Excellent, may the best man win.

[Revlona]

very much so

Excellent, may the best man win.

I'm glad you're going on the offensive

[Bolslania]

Excellent, may the best man win.

I'm glad you're going on the offensive

Yeah me too, I do not want to be exposed to your artillery and cavalry on some field somewhere, I also want to capitalize my infantry advantage before your reinforcements show up.

[Revlona]

https://imgur.com/gallery/ZJKCb5g

The CSA lines

I'm glad you're going on the offensive

Yeah me too, I do not want to be exposed to your artillery and cavalry on some field somewhere, I also want to capitalize my infantry advantage before your reinforcements show up.

Eh well you probably shouldn't have attacked then, my guns have a very nice position and my infantry is well anchored by a lake

[Revlona]

Casualties of War

Union: 0

Confederate: 0

Total manpower available throughout the war

Union: 2,228,000

Confederate : 1,582,000

[Bolslania]

Your main problem is that your cannons will only be able to fire on my infantry once my infantry is engaged with yours, so you run the risk of hitting your guys.

[Revlona]

Your main problem is that your cannons will only be able to fire on my infantry once my infantry is engaged with yours, so you run the risk of hitting your guys.

I don't think that's true? They are 150 feet higher on elevation and would be able to fire over my own guys heads with relative ease

Targeting your own men should be rather easy once they hit aqui creek

Edit: Actually seeing as they are 12 pound napoleons and they are accurate from 1400 yards they will be able to fire from a bit before the creek, as the creek is 1200 yards from them

[Bolslania]

Your main problem is that your cannons will only be able to fire on my infantry once my infantry is engaged with yours, so you run the risk of hitting your guys.

I don't think that's true? They are 150 feet higher on elevation and would be able to fire over my own guys heads with relative ease

Targeting your own men should be rather easy once they hit aqui creek

Edit: Actually seeing as they are 12 pound napoleons and they are accurate from 1400 yards they will be able to fire from a bit before the creek, as the creek is 1200 yards from them

Maybe I'm misreading the map I guess. Idk, but I doubt highly your artillery will be able to kill 1000 soldiers. So we'll see what happens



http://imgur.com/a/PMtmlKX

Also Union attack plans above

[Revlona]

I don't think that's true? They are 150 feet higher on elevation and would be able to fire over my own guys heads with relative ease

Targeting your own men should be rather easy once they hit aqui creek

Edit: Actually seeing as they are 12 pound napoleons and they are accurate from 1400 yards they will be able to fire from a bit before the creek, as the creek is 1200 yards from them

Maybe I'm misreading the map I guess. Idk, but I doubt highly your artillery will be able to kill 1000 soldiers. So we'll see what happens



http://imgur.com/a/PMtmlKX

Also Union attack plans above

I don't think I said they would be able to

However artillery on such a position would be quite deadly

[Bolslania]

Maybe I'm misreading the map I guess. Idk, but I doubt highly your artillery will be able to kill 1000 soldiers. So we'll see what happens



http://imgur.com/a/PMtmlKX

Also Union attack plans above

I don't think I said they would be able to

However artillery on such a position would be quite deadly

Yeah I didnt mean it like that, I just meant that I don't think that they will really stop an offensive being conducted by 2 brigades.

I certainly think I'm gonna lose a few hundred guys tho

[Revlona]

I don't think I said they would be able to

However artillery on such a position would be quite deadly

Yeah I didnt mean it like that, I just meant that I don't think that they will really stop an offensive being conducted by 2 brigades.

I certainly think I'm gonna lose a few hundred guys tho

Oh of course

Artillery in later staged of the war would break up charges sometimes but gunners are still being trained and are inexperienced at this point

No what I'm hoping for with the guns is that they soften up your advancing troops to allow my own infantry to better hold the line

[Revlona]

Also that is quite a difficult march for Guns brigade

seeing as no road runs around smiths lake and most of the area around it his heavily forested and hilly they would most likely have to take the nearest roads to get to there posistions in some speed and coordination

A near 13 mile march

[Bolslania]

Ik that they aren't gonna be there at the start of the battle


I'm guessing they will be there 45 minutes to an hour after the battle starts

[Revlona]

Ik that they aren't gonna be there at the start of the battle


I'm guessing they will be there 45 minutes to an hour after the battle starts

Armies could march between 8-13 miles in a day, with 20 being around the max with force march

So unless you severely delay your frontal assault then they wouldn't be arriving for quite a while, giving me time to reinforce

[Bolslania]

Ik that they aren't gonna be there at the start of the battle


I'm guessing they will be there 45 minutes to an hour after the battle starts

Armies could march between 8-13 miles in a day, with 20 being around the max with force march

So unless you severely delay your frontal assault then they wouldn't be arriving for quite a while, giving me time to reinforce

I measured the distance from Dumfries to Garrisonville to be a 4 hour walk to go from Dumfries, around the lake, and to where I marked 2nd Corps to be.

And a 2 hour walk from Dumfries to where I marked 1st Corps to be, so it appears as though 2nd Corps will be showing up 2 hours after the 1st Corps initial attack

[Revlona]

Armies could march between 8-13 miles in a day, with 20 being around the max with force march

So unless you severely delay your frontal assault then they wouldn't be arriving for quite a while, giving me time to reinforce

I measured the distance from Dumfries to Garrisonville to be a 4 hour walk to go from Dumfries, around the lake, and to where I marked 2nd Corps to be.

And a 2 hour walk from Dumfries to where I marked 1st Corps to be, so it appears as though 2nd Corps will be showing up 2 hours after the 1st Corps initial attack

You're proposing walking 11 miles in 4 hours?

I marked what would be the shortest/fastest routes to march

[Bolslania]

I measured the distance from Dumfries to Garrisonville to be a 4 hour walk to go from Dumfries, around the lake, and to where I marked 2nd Corps to be.

And a 2 hour walk from Dumfries to where I marked 1st Corps to be, so it appears as though 2nd Corps will be showing up 2 hours after the 1st Corps initial attack

You're proposing walking 11 miles in 4 hours?

I marked what would be the shortest/fastest routes to march

Hey I ain't proposing this, this is Google maps

[Revlona]

You're proposing walking 11 miles in 4 hours?

I marked what would be the shortest/fastest routes to march

Hey I ain't proposing this, this is Google maps

Walking 11 miles took most armies about a day during the civil war

infastructure wasn't as built up back then so the roads wouldn't be as comfortable to walk on as well as general clothing (shoes) being worn out much faster

I really don't think it possible for your 2nd corps to be in position in 4 hours

[Wasi State]

Name: Charles Shepard "Cold Heart" Graham/ "Cold Heart" Graham
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Faction: Confederate States of America
Rank: Lieutenant General
Describe your forces: Third Corps, Army of Northern Virginia. Contains three dedicated Infantry Divisions equipped with the Pattern 1853 Enfield, an artillery support battery, and a light cavalry company.
Bio: Born in Pennsylvania as a Mennonite Quaker in Lancaster in 1816, Graham as a boy had been raised to be a committed pacifist and a firm believer in his faith. However this belief he once held so strongly was slowly but surely whittled away as Graham going into early adulthood felt he was constricted at his home and farmstead, having become disillusioned with his faith and his lifestyle, which ran into many conflicts with his family, resulting in naturally more than a couple punishments thrown his way, some that would be considered highly dissonant in contemporary times.

Having been warned that he would've banished from his community, Graham soon left his home behind him that following night on his own accord, never looking back, but still having some form of his faith in his heart and soul for God. Facing homelessness and living an oppressive life as a vagabond in downtown Philadelphia. He was eventually caught for theft and was offered the ultimatum to either enlistment into the US Army, or face imprisonment. Having been arrested for the first time in life up to that point, a scared and naive Graham chose enlistment in a panicked move, doing away with his pacifism forever with firing a musket ball that lodged itself into a Seminole Warrior a few short months later.

In the Second Seminole War, Graham had distinguished himself as a soldier despite his rather 'innocent' upbringing, it was in that sense that he realized in all his years that the soldier's life was one for him after years of struggling to find his true calling. After his time in Florida, he soon enlisted to be an officer, a 'career' soldier in his mind. Proving himself once again and graduating from West Point in 1846. Just in time for the Mexican-American War.

At Puebla, Graham had reached a moral horizon, having come face to face with an enemy in the Mexican city that hid amongst the populace as they picked off men from his Brigade one by one. Losing his temper from the constant attacks that he couldn't directly retaliate towards, the still fresh officer lashed out on the population, killing several civilians and torching several homes and businesses in the process in order to snuff out the resistance to the city's occupation. While his actions were reprimanded, nothing much came from them as an American victory had soon declared in the War.

For years afterwards, Graham would end up leading US Army units to fight against the American Indians on the frontier in skirmishes, safeguarding settlers and pioneers on their travels, and firmly holding the land as an American owned territory. However after spending years on the frontier, Graham's mind had gone rather... Native. Having since become jaded and disillusioned once again with the state of his existence out in the frontier as what he had considered as 'punishment' for Puebla, an ire of which had started to grow personally towards the Union and the bureaucrats in D.C. Growing increasingly fed up with the seemingly rapid state the country itself was heading towards too, Graham had eventually come to long for a more simplistic and honest life that he once had in Lancaster. A more Spartanist lifestyle as he would later coin.

All was not well in the Union as it were however, if Harper's Ferry and Fort Sumter were any indication. Seeing this as his chance to get back at the politicians in Washington for years of disrespect, and in his eyes, answer to a greater, more theologically driven calling to 'reinvent' America. Graham quickly had defected over to the Confederacy and offered his experience as a General to their cause when given the oppertunity.
Notes: Musket