From Sick Man to Savior - An 1847 Nation Roleplay

[Dragos Bee]

I'm sorry, I also feel I have to tender my resignation for this RP. It's been good, and there's potential here, but I can't stay.

This was actually a civilly arranged departure. No bad blood in this case.

[Dragos Bee]

Two Sicilies, Tuscany, and Afghanistan are open!

[Dragos Bee]

Also, I'll be up-front - If Bluepillar and Saint-Domingues (the latter who has not been formally banned) would just apologize, I'd allow them back in.

[Bluepillar]

Also, I'll be up-front - If Bluepillar and Saint-Domingue (the latter who has not been formally banned) would just apologize, I'd allow them back in.

You and Sarderia in your RP's discord had a break down, claimed players that left were basically raping you, threatened to shut the RP down multiple times when people didn't act the way you wanted, and also tried to force people playing smaller countries to do what you wanted ICly by OOCly threatening in world repercussions if they didn't. You, of course, did different parts of these, but that doesn't excuse it - and both of you are equally guilty for repeatedly enabling each other's behavior by justifying it as "not as bad as other NRPers'" when, in fact, you are worse than a lot of NRPers. I'm a sexual abuse survivor. Why would I ever allow you and your mods to be abusive, overly competitive, ruin the fun of the game for me, and to steal survivors' experience and use to to give yourself advantages while you melted down when you went through no such thing, and then beg to come back? I did nothing wrong except stand up to bullies.

It would be in wisdom for you to never mention me, or this drama again, and kindly keep an extremely far distance from me.

Drop it, get over it, and forget me. Please. You're causing me mental stress. I'll RP with you when you get the help you need.

I don't want you, and I will never apologize for your uncouth behavior. Your words disgust me, and disgust many others with good sense that have become aware of what happened during your melt down.

[Dragos Bee]

We're moving on.

[Saint-Domingues]

I would also like to move on but that is difficult when OP has TGed me to criticise me for leaving the RP and thereafter blocked me to stop me from responding.

OP TGed me saying that what I did was "wrong" and I would like to defend myself by saying I have done nothing morally wrong at all, all I did was express concerns over powerplaying and then resign from an RP.

Also, I'll be up-front - If Bluepillar and Saint-Domingues (the latter who has not been formally banned) would just apologize, I'd allow them back in.

I have nothing to apologise for and the suggestion that I am at fault for merely leaving a roleplay isn't very nice. It implies I have done something wrong like break the rules which is not true.

I had big concerns over the quality of the RP when one of the co-OPs has been able engaging in heavy powerplaying and metagaming. This is a concern that I said privately to OP but they are now complaining that they have been "badgered" about this issue. The fact that an OP wishes to totally brush this issue off (which is a very big problem in RPing) as me and any other players who said it being an annoyance doesn't sit right with me. OP's conduct since has made me more sure of my decision to leave, I would rather have kept this private but Dragos blocked me from TGing them back (I have not sent them a single TG, they did it to prevent me responding privately).

It was not something personal and I was quite happy to leave everything as is, but considering OP contacted me I thought it best to respond and clarify things while being civil. But I don't think I have been treated respectfully for doing very little, I am able to leave the RP if I so desire and should be able to do so without being criticised and then denied the chance to respond.

[Bluepillar]

I would also like to move on but that is difficult when OP has TGed me to criticise me for leaving the RP and thereafter blocked me to stop me from responding.

OP TGed me saying that what I did was "wrong" and I would like to defend myself by saying I have done nothing morally wrong at all, all I did was express concerns over powerplaying and then resign from an RP.

Also, I'll be up-front - If Bluepillar and Saint-Domingues (the latter who has not been formally banned) would just apologize, I'd allow them back in.

I have nothing to apologise for and the suggestion that I am at fault for merely leaving a roleplay isn't very nice. It implies I have done something wrong like break the rules which is not true.

I had big concerns over the quality of the RP when one of the co-OPs has been able engaging in heavy powerplaying and metagaming. This is a concern that I said privately to OP but they are now complaining that they have been "badgered" about this issue. The fact that an OP wishes to totally brush this issue off (which is a very big problem in RPing) as me and any other players who said it being an annoyance doesn't sit right with me. OP's conduct since has made me more sure of my decision to leave, I would rather have kept this private but Dragos blocked me from TGing them back (I have not sent them a single TG, they did it to prevent me responding privately).

It was not something personal and I was quite happy to leave everything as is, but considering OP contacted me I thought it best to respond and clarify things while being civil. But I don't think I have been treated respectfully for doing very little, I am able to leave the RP if I so desire and should be able to do so without being criticised and then denied the chance to respond.

you should report Dragos Bee and what he's been up to to the rest of the Andromedaverse directors and their higher ups, to prevent him from blackballing you in Andromedaverse NS RPs tbh.

[Dragos Bee]

As I said, we're moving on.

[Dragos Bee]

I've been told I won't hear from you two again, Bluepillar and Saint-Domingues. Considering the fact that you threw away this last chance, good riddance from my end.

[Dragos Bee]

I just saw what you said, Bluepillar (through a screencap as you are on my foes list).

Do not bear false witness against me, and I am reporting you to the Andromedaverse higher-ups first.

Edit: Okay, I did do what you said I did. But I will get the help I need, and fine, I'll stay away from you.

[Khasinkonia]

I would also like to move on but that is difficult when OP has TGed me to criticise me for leaving the RP and thereafter blocked me to stop me from responding.

OP TGed me saying that what I did was "wrong" and I would like to defend myself by saying I have done nothing morally wrong at all, all I did was express concerns over powerplaying and then resign from an RP.


I have nothing to apologise for and the suggestion that I am at fault for merely leaving a roleplay isn't very nice. It implies I have done something wrong like break the rules which is not true.

I had big concerns over the quality of the RP when one of the co-OPs has been able engaging in heavy powerplaying and metagaming. This is a concern that I said privately to OP but they are now complaining that they have been "badgered" about this issue. The fact that an OP wishes to totally brush this issue off (which is a very big problem in RPing) as me and any other players who said it being an annoyance doesn't sit right with me. OP's conduct since has made me more sure of my decision to leave, I would rather have kept this private but Dragos blocked me from TGing them back (I have not sent them a single TG, they did it to prevent me responding privately).

It was not something personal and I was quite happy to leave everything as is, but considering OP contacted me I thought it best to respond and clarify things while being civil. But I don't think I have been treated respectfully for doing very little, I am able to leave the RP if I so desire and should be able to do so without being criticised and then denied the chance to respond.

you should report Dragos Bee and what he's been up to to the rest of the Andromedaverse directors and their higher ups, to prevent him from blackballing you in Andromedaverse NS RPs tbh.

As a member of the Andromedaverse moderation team, I am going to be very clear that this RP is sponsored by us, but is not part of direct Andromedaverse content. This is a matter that shall remain here, as there is no overlap between the moderation team of this RP and the moderation team of the Andromedaverse proper. I will not tolerate any drama from here being brought over to Andromeda Burning, To Boldly Go, Prefeton, Beasts, or any other RPs managed by Dyelli Beybi, Bingellia, myself, and Arengin Union. Bee will not blackball either of you, but let me be clear that I'm thoroughly indifferent to the context. You will be judged on your merits as we ourselves see it. This goes for everyone who is currently a part of Andromeda too.

[Dragos Bee]

As a member of the Andromedaverse moderation team, I am going to be very clear that this RP is sponsored by us, but is not part of direct Andromedaverse content. This is a matter that shall remain here, as there is no overlap between the moderation team of this RP and the moderation team of the Andromedaverse proper. I will not tolerate any drama from here being brought over to Andromeda Burning, To Boldly Go, Prefeton, Beasts, or any other RPs managed by Dyelli Beybi, Bingellia, myself, and Arengin Union. Bee will not blackball either of you, but let me be clear that I'm thoroughly indifferent to the context. You will be judged on your merits as we ourselves see it. This goes for everyone who is currently a part of Andromeda too.

Thank you.

[Dragos Bee]

Hello. I noticed you have several grievances directed towards the OP and Co-OPs, myself in particular, so I would like to clarify this, respectfully:

We have an arc in progress for Egypt, and one currently in the making for Austria. You might not get the idea (even though the players already had discussions regarding this in the #general-discussions channel), but it involves a lot of internal trouble (primarily being driven by the Hungarian Independence Movement - however, the player left, and so we have no choice but to continue the storyline for the sake of roleplay and to provide other players something to get involved at). That is why, most of all, I urged people not to jump so quick into conclusions based on IRL history (such as Austria presenting a large threat), because this is again meant to be an alternate history roleplay. However, you seemed to get the wrong impression from my statements - and I sincerely apologize if I did say anything that is offending (if I did, it was not meant to be, and certainly not personal). These kinds of appeals are directed towards all players who participate in 1847, not just you alone in particular. (It's not personal).

As for agreements between France and Russia, I can assure you that there is no such thing (in fact, we have not talked about IC matters save for planning the Egypt arc and the Austria arc). We, the GM board, wanted 1847 to be a balanced RP so that no player would feel like they've been singled out by any particular GM, in the IC or the OOC. That is why each GMs picked opposing sides in this RP (I picked France, which is hostile to Dragos' Egypt, and which has a not-so-good relation with UP's Russia) so that every player could be engaged more in international politics by picking sides on preset conflicts (for example, the Egyptian arc).

In the end, 1847 is meant to provide an interesting and enjoyable avenue for participants to write alternate history. This is not a competition; this is instead a collaboration between various participants in order to craft a realistic and good alternate history world based on the premises. If you felt like it was otherwise, I can assure you that it was not meant to, and I apologize on behalf of myself and the GM board regarding any grievances you've experienced in 1847.

Thanks.

This is Sarderia's reply to Bluepillar - Does this sound like a bad person to all of you?

[Sarderia]

To all the participants: I am taking over the GM position.
That said, I want no further discussions on past matters, and I will not actively try to bring it up again. If someone wanted to complain about anything, I am available - both in TGs and the Discords. It has been a long and interesting journey with 1847, and while it might not be the most pleasant, I hope we can continue it further.

Thanks!

[Dragos Bee]

To all the participants: I am taking over the GM position.
That said, I want no further discussions on past matters, and I will not actively try to bring it up again. If someone wanted to complain about anything, I am available - both in TGs and the Discords. It has been a long and interesting journey with 1847, and while it might not be the most pleasant, I hope we can continue it further.

Thanks!

I confirm this.

[Dragos Bee]

I'm leaving the RP. Someone else can have Egypt if they use the pre-set application I made and stay true to it.

[Dragos Bee]

Sarderia has the Discord Server's ownership as well.

[Ard al Islam]

I'm leaving the RP. Someone else can have Egypt if they use the pre-set application I made and stay true to it.

Damn. First ASIOAF bleeding years and now this one.

[Dragos Bee]

I'm leaving the RP. Someone else can have Egypt if they use the pre-set application I made and stay true to it.

Damn. First ASIOAD bleeding years and now this one.

My departure might not be permanent.