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Postby Union Princes » Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:09 pm

The landings again Hyperborea
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Postby Revlona » Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:15 pm

XXIV Fleet ORBAT

1x Vengeful Class Cruiser HMS Illustrious
1x Endeavor Class Cruiser HMS Inglorious
2x Lancer Light Cruisers
5x Frigates
11x Imperial Escorts
8x Imperial Corvettes
2x Imperial Supply and Repair ships

88th Marine Battalion
231st Marine Logistical Battalion

(I’m gonna have to edit my app because I originally had the 24ths flagship as a battleship, or is it ok if I switch that vengeful out for what I originally had accepted?)

Otherwise how does this look?
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Postby Imperialisium » Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:22 pm

Revlona wrote:XXIV Fleet ORBAT

1x Vengeful Class Cruiser HMS Illustrious
1x Endeavor Class Cruiser HMS Inglorious
2x Lancer Light Cruisers
5x Frigates
11x Imperial Escorts
8x Imperial Corvettes
2x Imperial Supply and Repair ships

88th Marine Battalion
231st Marine Logistical Battalion

(I’m gonna have to edit my app because I originally had the 24ths flagship as a battleship, or is it ok if I switch that vengeful out for what I originally had accepted?)

Otherwise how does this look?


Lets keep it as a Vengeful
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Postby Wasi State » Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:27 pm

I'll post soon for the Hyperborean rebellions happening in their off-worlds.
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Postby Revlona » Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:29 pm

Imperialisium wrote:
Revlona wrote:XXIV Fleet ORBAT

1x Vengeful Class Cruiser HMS Illustrious
1x Endeavor Class Cruiser HMS Inglorious
2x Lancer Light Cruisers
5x Frigates
11x Imperial Escorts
8x Imperial Corvettes
2x Imperial Supply and Repair ships

88th Marine Battalion
231st Marine Logistical Battalion

(I’m gonna have to edit my app because I originally had the 24ths flagship as a battleship, or is it ok if I switch that vengeful out for what I originally had accepted?)

Otherwise how does this look?


Lets keep it as a Vengeful


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Postby Imperialisium » Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:53 pm

https://imgur.com/qr9M5ci

New version of the map with Calaath and Folon added.
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Postby Union Princes » Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:05 pm

I'd just realize we're on page three. It's time for the plot to be plotted
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Postby Imperialisium » Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:13 pm

Union Princes wrote:I'd just realize we're on page three. It's time for the plot to be plotted


I wasn't serious about just the Galaxy exploding on page 3, narrative wise. Was more like "Don't think you can just conquer the galaxy by page 3."
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Postby Brusia » Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:28 pm

Incidentally, on the subject of ORBATs, what would the approximate strength of a Sector Army be?

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Postby Imperialisium » Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:16 pm

Brusia wrote:Incidentally, on the subject of ORBATs, what would the approximate strength of a Sector Army be?


Likely 700,000-5,000,000 combat troops with an additional 200,000-800,000 support personnel. Sector Armies likely are of various sizes based on Sector population, strategic importance, and if the Sector Army is meant to be a large mobile force or spread about to defend a Sector of space. This doesn't discount any additional garrison commands which may be also present in the Sector and not directly under the local Sector Army commander's purview. There is also the possibility a sector will have multiple Sector Armies as well.

Sector Armies are combined arms as well. So they'll feature armoured, mechanized, motorized, (suspensor, tracked, and wheeled); artillery/SPG, rocket; logistical and construction units attached to them; and likely Army Air formations for atmospheric combat (the Navy capable of providing support from space if need be). Specialist formations are generally also available like combat engineers, maritime units, recon, assault, heavy support, light infantry, and drop units for orbital or air insertions. Essentially a Sector Army is a fully complete package of a force to wage war on a planet. This can be additionally modified by Special Forces being attached as well.
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Postby Brusia » Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:27 pm

Imperialisium wrote:
Brusia wrote:Incidentally, on the subject of ORBATs, what would the approximate strength of a Sector Army be?


Likely 700,000-5,000,000 combat troops with an additional 200,000-800,000 support personnel. Sector Armies likely are of various sizes based on Sector population, strategic importance, and if the Sector Army is meant to be a large mobile force or spread about to defend a Sector of space. This doesn't discount any additional garrison commands which may be also present in the Sector and not directly under the local Sector Army commander's purview. There is also the possibility a sector will have multiple Sector Armies as well.

Sector Armies are combined arms as well. So they'll feature armoured, mechanized, motorized, (suspensor, tracked, and wheeled); artillery/SPG, rocket; logistical and construction units attached to them; and likely Army Air formations for atmospheric combat (the Navy capable of providing support from space if need be). Specialist formations are generally also available like combat engineers, maritime units, recon, assault, heavy support, light infantry, and drop units for orbital or air insertions. Essentially a Sector Army is a fully complete package of a force to wage war on a planet. This can be additionally modified by Special Forces being attached as well.

Awesome, thanks for the info!

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Postby Bolslania » Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:45 pm

Now time to appeal to the General Staff, you wanna play the General Staff Imp or should I narrate the whole thing?

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Postby Imperialisium » Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:50 pm

Bolslania wrote:Now time to appeal to the General Staff, you wanna play the General Staff Imp or should I narrate the whole thing?


I’ll play them to give some back and forth.
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Postby Union Princes » Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:05 pm

Uri is in an interesting spot. Good thing my character is too minor to be considered a threat. This war would bring some prestige to Irene.
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Postby Revlona » Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:13 am

Wait can a vengeful class cruiser enter and exit orbit at will?

According to your post on ship classes they can be used to directly deliver troops to combat using their hangers, if so that’s really cool
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Postby Imperialisium » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:15 am

Revlona wrote:Wait can a vengeful class cruiser enter and exit orbit at will?

According to your post on ship classes they can be used to directly deliver troops to combat using their hangers, if so that’s really cool


Yes they can enter and exit atmosphere.
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Postby Revlona » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:54 am

Imperialisium wrote:
Revlona wrote:Wait can a vengeful class cruiser enter and exit orbit at will?

According to your post on ship classes they can be used to directly deliver troops to combat using their hangers, if so that’s really cool


Yes they can enter and exit atmosphere.


Oh boy

Did some say CAS
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Postby Bolslania » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:16 am

Revlona wrote:
Imperialisium wrote:
Yes they can enter and exit atmosphere.


Oh boy

Did some say CAS


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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:18 am

Bolslania wrote:
Revlona wrote:
Oh boy

Did some say CAS


ruh roh


I heard the words 'colony drop' myself.
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Postby Revlona » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:39 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Bolslania wrote:
ruh roh


I heard the words 'colony drop' myself.


Imagine the hell that any wreckage would cause due to a battle occurring near atmosphere

I'm guessing there are some type of planetary defenses that deter ships from entering to provide CAS
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Postby Union Princes » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:10 am

What kind of tanks does the Imperium have?
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Postby Bolslania » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:14 am

Revlona wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
I heard the words 'colony drop' myself.


Imagine the hell that any wreckage would cause due to a battle occurring near atmosphere

I'm guessing there are some type of planetary defenses that deter ships from entering to provide CAS


Well Wasi describes defenses being shut down by the power outage, so you should have free run of the atmosphere.

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Postby Imperialisium » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:21 am

Revlona wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
I heard the words 'colony drop' myself.


Imagine the hell that any wreckage would cause due to a battle occurring near atmosphere

I'm guessing there are some type of planetary defenses that deter ships from entering to provide CAS


Yes. Ground to space defenses exist. The exact composition and quality of such defenses largely vary. By and large most worlds do not have sufficient means to have total ground-to-space coverage (I.e. defend every single approach vector to the planet). Since physics is consistent laser batteries still stuffer atmospheric refraction that they have to account for and if they’re able to rotate they’re still encumbered by the curvature of the planet they’re on. Same with kinetic weapons or old fashion ballistic firing AA (whom also suffer from drag and gravity). Missiles are probably the most versatile for defenses outside of a main planetary capital as a result. But being missiles they light up on any ships radar pretty quickly.

As to how much and how dense such defenses are? Really the average planet with less than several billion people (the average Terra like world) such defenses tend to be primarily meant to defend the planetary capital and perhaps other key points of infrastructure. Why? Well because it’s largely impossible to defend every vector anyways so ground combat to capture the planet is largely inevitable. Unless you’re on a planet dependent on imports to survive any enemy fleet with the goal to capture your world has to eventually make a planetary invasion. So investing in massive amounts of ground to space defenses is largely unreasonable and impractical.

Orbital defenses also exist and in a way are generally superior since they can cover more area in terms of zone-of-control. Placing a few orbital defenses in high orbit can allow them to “see” very far over a very wide angle of approach. Coupled with system defense ships or even a guarding fleet makes taking a planet many times more difficult.

In terms of wreckage, that is an issue much like irl with space debris, given the scale and size of ships and their ordinance a large battle on orbit (especially low orbit where the planets gravity well will begin pulling down debris almost immediately) could mean material is impacting over entire continents. It’s like Space Shuttle Columbia times 100x with probably larger debris. Things can speed up very fast from orbit to ground (Columbia debris was impacting the earth in excess of 100,000 miles per hour, so sure a ship falling may be slower by sheer mass...but that’s a LOT more mass than a 21st century space shuttle).
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:27 am

Imperialisium wrote:Yes. Ground to space defenses exist. The exact composition and quality of such defenses largely vary. By and large most worlds do not have sufficient means to have total ground-to-space coverage (I.e. defend every single approach vector to the planet).


It only takes a mere 47000 ground-to-space kinetic batteries to defend an Earth-sized planet! So reasonable!
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Postby Bolslania » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:28 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Imperialisium wrote:Yes. Ground to space defenses exist. The exact composition and quality of such defenses largely vary. By and large most worlds do not have sufficient means to have total ground-to-space coverage (I.e. defend every single approach vector to the planet).


It only takes a mere 47000 ground-to-space kinetic batteries to defend an Earth-sized planet! So reasonable!


Well look at flak defenses in the 1940s, industrial centers had hundreds of flak guns to cover cities, so it makes sense that to defend a planet you'd need thousands of batteries.

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