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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:41 pm
by Union Princes
A kidnapping might derail my plot for the revolution. It's gonna have to be someone else since Irene is the lowest planetary governor

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:42 pm
by Orostan
Union Princes wrote:A kidnapping might derail my plot for the revolution. It's gonna have to be someone else since Irene is the lowest planetary governor

I'm not part of or aware of your plot though. A dispute between rebel groups is always fun too.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:46 pm
by Union Princes
Yeah, the main plot is the coalition between the communist and soviet revolutionaries working with my ultranationalist reformist, Irene, against the Emperor

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:46 pm
by G-Tech Corporation
Orostan wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
What part of the galaxy?

Any part is good, but I would prefer it to be far away from the Imperial capitol and in a rougher area of space. It also doesn't have to be right next to your character, a relative or close associate of theirs can also be taken prisoner or if they're in the military they can be assigned to 'solve' the situation. Anything works.


Ahhh, you mean you kidnapping someone, not a third party kidnapping a planetary governor near you. Hmm.

I’ll probably sit that out. That would reveal too many sekrits and derail long term arcs.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:50 pm
by Orostan
Union Princes wrote:Yeah, the main plot is the coalition between the communist and soviet revolutionaries working with my ultranationalist reformist, Irene, against the Emperor

That does not sound like a stable coalition at all. Mind if I nab Irene off of her ship or something and have a strange encounter where some revolutionaries have to explain to other revolutionaries why an ultranationalist should be allowed to continue living?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:51 pm
by Orostan
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Orostan wrote:Any part is good, but I would prefer it to be far away from the Imperial capitol and in a rougher area of space. It also doesn't have to be right next to your character, a relative or close associate of theirs can also be taken prisoner or if they're in the military they can be assigned to 'solve' the situation. Anything works.


Ahhh, you mean you kidnapping someone, not a third party kidnapping a planetary governor near you. Hmm.

I’ll probably sit that out. That would reveal too many sekrits and derail long term arcs.

Well, is there anything else we can do? What would help your story along?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:57 pm
by Union Princes
There would be no words to describe my anger if attempted such a thing. We've been planning this for over a week already.
You gonna have to have a different plot for your character

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:58 pm
by Orostan
Union Princes wrote:There would be no words to describe my anger if attempted such a thing. We've been planning this for over a week already.
You gonna have to have a different plot for your character

got it, I will do my utmost to inconvenience you in other ways.

Imperial Navy Ranks version 2

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:09 pm
by Imperialisium
https://imgur.com/2DTpZY1

Alright, version 2 of the Imperial Navy Rank and also attendant Structure chart.

The Joint Chiefs aren't shown since they're handpicked by the Emperor. Rest is shown.

Grand Admirals=14 Grand Admirals
Fleet Admiral=Likely no more than a hundred and generally oversee multiple armadas depending on needs and priority (active warzone or passive operations etc)
Solar Admiral=Few Hundred and typically overseeing multiple fleets or an armada. They tend to be the uppermost officer in a given theatre
Admiral=few thousand
so forth down the line.

Thoughts? Comments?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:10 pm
by Imperialisium
Althyandse wrote:Name: Irene
Nickname: (If applicable)Irain
Age:22
Birth Date:8/19/3043
Gender:Female
Planet of Origin: (make up one if you wish) Kepler 62-B
Race/Species: Homo Sapiens Sapiens Internationalius
Height: 1,000 6’
Weight: 0 oz.
Physical Description or Image: A tall, fair humanoid cyborg made of both organic and artificial molecules. A black hat, shirt, skirt and shoes on human side, exposed brain, chemical reaction maker and other scientific machines on robot side.
Social Class: (Noble or not, talk about economic background here)Noble, second on throne line
Titles: (rank, nobility title, any official or legal title) Princess of Intergalactic (thing), Leader of The Sub-Empire Of Althyandse, Irene Ptoria XXX
Occupation: (What do you do)Scientist, royal helper
Hobbies/Pastimes: being a robot, getting “tickled”
Talents/Skills: not getting hurt, easy everything
Religious Beliefs: (If applicable, feel free to make a faith of your homeworld) A higher power, a scientific immortal
Personality: happy and ready-to-get-going woman
Biography: (is part of fan fiction so this is disputed by my freinds)

If Great House or a leader of a Faction like a SAS, Colony, Et Cetera
Name of Territory: Example- The Star Duchy of Aquarius or Republic of Zira. The Sub-Empire Of Althyandse
Government: (Star Feudalism, Republic, Democracy, Imperial Governorate, etc) Democracy
Capital World: Ethiopiana
Population:infinity
Economy: (jack of all trades, do you specialize in specific goods? Preferred economic system?) Trade, Dollars and other
Culture: (Any unique cultural traits?) All are cyborg and live in leader
Social Structure: Scientific Govermental Living
Territorial Size: (How many settled planets/moons/stations, broken down into what kind: Arid, Alpine, Continental, Desert, Artic, Barren, Dead (No Atmosphere), Death World (everything wants to kill non-natives), Oceanic, Terraformed (not natural and extremely expensive, needs Imperial permission), Gaia (rare natural gems of worlds) infinity of all except bad ones
Military and Security Forces: everything possible


No.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:12 pm
by G-Tech Corporation
Orostan wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Ahhh, you mean you kidnapping someone, not a third party kidnapping a planetary governor near you. Hmm.

I’ll probably sit that out. That would reveal too many sekrits and derail long term arcs.

Well, is there anything else we can do? What would help your story along?


We could always do some light glassing of a nearby revolting OLG world.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:17 pm
by Orostan
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Orostan wrote:Well, is there anything else we can do? What would help your story along?


We could always do some light glassing of a nearby revolting OLG world.

Sure, I could have my guys in orbit at the time your fleet arrives evacuating resources and people. I also have some ideas of how to fight a much stronger force and what I would do as a response.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:22 pm
by Union Princes
Imperialisium wrote:https://imgur.com/2DTpZY1

Alright, version 2 of the Imperial Navy Rank and also attendant Structure chart.

The Joint Chiefs aren't shown since they're handpicked by the Emperor. Rest is shown.

Grand Admirals=14 Grand Admirals
Fleet Admiral=Likely no more than a hundred and generally oversee multiple armadas depending on needs and priority (active warzone or passive operations etc)
Solar Admiral=Few Hundred and typically overseeing multiple fleets or an armada. They tend to be the uppermost officer in a given theatre
Admiral=few thousand
so forth down the line.

Thoughts? Comments?

Not gonna be using "Commodore" as a rank anymore? Maybe that could be the one that is in charge of the War department

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:24 pm
by Imperialisium
Union Princes wrote:
Imperialisium wrote:https://imgur.com/2DTpZY1

Alright, version 2 of the Imperial Navy Rank and also attendant Structure chart.

The Joint Chiefs aren't shown since they're handpicked by the Emperor. Rest is shown.

Grand Admirals=14 Grand Admirals
Fleet Admiral=Likely no more than a hundred and generally oversee multiple armadas depending on needs and priority (active warzone or passive operations etc)
Solar Admiral=Few Hundred and typically overseeing multiple fleets or an armada. They tend to be the uppermost officer in a given theatre
Admiral=few thousand
so forth down the line.

Thoughts? Comments?

Not gonna be using "Commodore" as a rank anymore? Maybe that could be the one that is in charge of the War department


Commodore is listed. Just there's so many commodores compared to full Admirals and above that I didn't bother listing.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:25 pm
by Orostan
Imperialisium wrote:
Union Princes wrote:Not gonna be using "Commodore" as a rank anymore? Maybe that could be the one that is in charge of the War department


Commodore is listed. Just there's so many commodores compared to full Admirals and above that I didn't bother listing.

How much of the navy is actually under central control and the control of noble houses or PDFs?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:29 pm
by Imperialisium
Orostan wrote:
Imperialisium wrote:
Commodore is listed. Just there's so many commodores compared to full Admirals and above that I didn't bother listing.

How much of the navy is actually under central control and the control of noble houses or PDFs?


So the Imperial Military is totally under central control (at least currently).

The Noble Houses often have their own private forces.

There is no "PDF" in a formalized military force sense. Just whatever local security forces/policing forces a world organizes to suit its specific needs. Typically if a planet has a problem its own local policing/security forces can't handle the Imperial Military is called in to deal with it. Or if its House planet they'll send their private forces. Really the Imperium only intervenes on House planets if things get too wild and crazy or the House loses control. But since such a thing would be a tremendous blow to prestige the Noble Houses tend to put effort in keeping their private dominions at least somewhat secure.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:33 pm
by Orostan
Imperialisium wrote:
Orostan wrote:How much of the navy is actually under central control and the control of noble houses or PDFs?


So the Imperial Military is totally under central control (at least currently).

The Noble Houses often have their own private forces.

There is no "PDF" in a formalized military force sense. Just whatever local security forces/policing forces a world organizes to suit its specific needs. Typically if a planet has a problem its own local policing/security forces can't handle the Imperial Military is called in to deal with it. Or if its House planet they'll send their private forces. Really the Imperium only intervenes on House planets if things get too wild and crazy or the House loses control. But since such a thing would be a tremendous blow to prestige the Noble Houses tend to put effort in keeping their private dominions at least somewhat secure.

I see. I must have misinterpreted the OP then, as I thought a lot of it was implying that the Imperial military was more of a quick response force in terms of keeping the empire in order and that the bulk of warships and weapons were in PDF or private hands.

Are most worlds house worlds, then?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:33 pm
by Gladian Imperium
Imperialisium wrote:
What is stopping humanity from just uploading a virus to destroy it or take it back under control?

The Magellanic Clouds are probably the largest expanse of wild space sure. Mind unexplored space still vastly exceeds charted space.


Really, nothing's stopping humanity. The bigger question would be could the people tasked with finding it locate it and insert the virus before it evolves past it(meaning the virus would be obsolete) or it builds up the resources to minimize or prevent the virus from taking hold in the first place(either through spreading itself across several hubs or building up forces to physically repel would-be hackers)

Again, this AI is escaping to the Clouds, which are a rather large volume of uncharted space. While it would make probing attacks on colonies at the Frontier, and ships may start disappearing, considering the state of the Imperium the reaction time to these events may be enough for the AI to start building itself up adequately, perhaps even inciting revolutions or establishing itself in already present networks to make it even harder to learn or respond to these happenings.

I can go for a more conventional character, I just want to test the waters with more setting-based ideas first. A rouge AI that views Humanity as endangered and works to preserve it by undercutting the Imperium sounds like a fun RP experience.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:37 pm
by Imperialisium
Orostan wrote:
Imperialisium wrote:
So the Imperial Military is totally under central control (at least currently).

The Noble Houses often have their own private forces.

There is no "PDF" in a formalized military force sense. Just whatever local security forces/policing forces a world organizes to suit its specific needs. Typically if a planet has a problem its own local policing/security forces can't handle the Imperial Military is called in to deal with it. Or if its House planet they'll send their private forces. Really the Imperium only intervenes on House planets if things get too wild and crazy or the House loses control. But since such a thing would be a tremendous blow to prestige the Noble Houses tend to put effort in keeping their private dominions at least somewhat secure.

I see. I must have misinterpreted the OP then, as I thought a lot of it was implying that the Imperial military was more of a quick response force in terms of keeping the empire in order and that the bulk of warships and weapons were in PDF or private hands.

Are most worlds house worlds, then?


Numerically, most would be Imperial.

However the entire RP is set up where the Galactic Imperium is a series of checks and balances between central government, houses, and SAS's/Protectorates at start (with things going haywire or swaying back and forth based on player choices)

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:39 pm
by Imperialisium
Gladian Imperium wrote:
Imperialisium wrote:
What is stopping humanity from just uploading a virus to destroy it or take it back under control?

The Magellanic Clouds are probably the largest expanse of wild space sure. Mind unexplored space still vastly exceeds charted space.


Really, nothing's stopping humanity. The bigger question would be could the people tasked with finding it locate it and insert the virus before it evolves past it(meaning the virus would be obsolete) or it builds up the resources to minimize or prevent the virus from taking hold in the first place(either through spreading itself across several hubs or building up forces to physically repel would-be hackers)

Again, this AI is escaping to the Clouds, which are a rather large volume of uncharted space. While it would make probing attacks on colonies at the Frontier, and ships may start disappearing, considering the state of the Imperium the reaction time to these events may be enough for the AI to start building itself up adequately, perhaps even inciting revolutions or establishing itself in already present networks to make it even harder to learn or respond to these happenings.

I can go for a more conventional character, I just want to test the waters with more setting-based ideas first. A rouge AI that views Humanity as endangered and works to preserve it by undercutting the Imperium sounds like a fun RP experience.


I like the concept.

However as an OP I do have concerns over the more "mary sue" elements of this. Such as, how fast can it evolve? How does it spread/embed? etc.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:50 pm
by Orostan
Imperialisium wrote:
Orostan wrote:I see. I must have misinterpreted the OP then, as I thought a lot of it was implying that the Imperial military was more of a quick response force in terms of keeping the empire in order and that the bulk of warships and weapons were in PDF or private hands.

Are most worlds house worlds, then?


Numerically, most would be Imperial.

However the entire RP is set up where the Galactic Imperium is a series of checks and balances between central government, houses, and SAS's/Protectorates at start (with things going haywire or swaying back and forth based on player choices)

Huh, I see. So Imperial worlds on average are less wealthy and less influential, but make up for that with numbers?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:52 pm
by Orostan
Imperialisium wrote:
Gladian Imperium wrote:
Really, nothing's stopping humanity. The bigger question would be could the people tasked with finding it locate it and insert the virus before it evolves past it(meaning the virus would be obsolete) or it builds up the resources to minimize or prevent the virus from taking hold in the first place(either through spreading itself across several hubs or building up forces to physically repel would-be hackers)

Again, this AI is escaping to the Clouds, which are a rather large volume of uncharted space. While it would make probing attacks on colonies at the Frontier, and ships may start disappearing, considering the state of the Imperium the reaction time to these events may be enough for the AI to start building itself up adequately, perhaps even inciting revolutions or establishing itself in already present networks to make it even harder to learn or respond to these happenings.

I can go for a more conventional character, I just want to test the waters with more setting-based ideas first. A rouge AI that views Humanity as endangered and works to preserve it by undercutting the Imperium sounds like a fun RP experience.


I like the concept.

However as an OP I do have concerns over the more "mary sue" elements of this. Such as, how fast can it evolve? How does it spread/embed? etc.

A good way of limiting an AI would be economic. Producing robots and industry from scratch takes an enormous amount of effort without a self replicating probe set up.

However, I could supply materials and stolen goods to an AI in exchange for advanced technology and weapons the AI might be able to manufacture better than I can.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:52 pm
by Astarten
I'll have a post up by tonight or latest tmw :D

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:56 pm
by Imperialisium
Orostan wrote:
Imperialisium wrote:
I like the concept.

However as an OP I do have concerns over the more "mary sue" elements of this. Such as, how fast can it evolve? How does it spread/embed? etc.

A good way of limiting an AI would be economic. Producing robots and industry from scratch takes an enormous amount of effort without a self replicating probe set up.

However, I could supply materials and stolen goods to an AI in exchange for advanced technology and weapons the AI might be able to manufacture better than I can.


In space that is hard to limit.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:04 pm
by Orostan
Imperialisium wrote:
Orostan wrote:A good way of limiting an AI would be economic. Producing robots and industry from scratch takes an enormous amount of effort without a self replicating probe set up.

However, I could supply materials and stolen goods to an AI in exchange for advanced technology and weapons the AI might be able to manufacture better than I can.


In space that is hard to limit.

Resources mean nothing of you don’t have the machinery to extract them with.