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Sarderia
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Postby Sarderia » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:10 am

Name: Arnst Urbach "Uri" Moralos
Nickname: Uri; Comrade Uri; Old Man Red
Age: 136
Birth Date: 25,573 CE
Gender: Male

Planet of Origin: New Shanghai (Kepler-186f)
Race/Species: Human
Height: 5'9''
Weight: 180lbs
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Social Class: Minor bastard Noble
Titles: (Nominal) Duke of the Tianju Dominion, Chairman of the Cygnus Communist Party
Occupation: As a member of the Imperial Nobility, Arnst ruled the Tianju Dominion as a vassal of the Emperor. However, in practice, he holds little to no power, as the matters of the Dominion is governed by the Cygnus Supreme Soviet (while technically it is Tianju's legislative body). Arnst however is the chairman of the sole party that forms the Supreme Soviet (along with several independent seats), the Cygnus Communist Party, and thus he holds a considerable influence over government matters. He is also a well-known philosopher.
Hobbies/Pastimes: Writing, Smoking, Chess
Talents/Skills:
  • Orator: Arnst had a way with words that could easily convince other people to follow his views.
  • Engineer: He is well-versed with engineering and technical operations of various machines, including starships, due to his education and years serving as a Chief Engineer in the Imperial Navy.
  • Commander: He is also well-experienced with leading fleets and commanding armies, having participated in several battles during his military career.
Religious Beliefs: Atheist

Personality:
  • Charismatic: Arnst is a great orator, and he could easily give speeches that could align a lot of people with his views. His greatest advantage is unlike other members of the Nobility, he could easily blend down with the common people - and almost all of his staffs are composed of commoners. Arnst is also a skillfully cunning man, being able to mold situations and plan scenarios beneficial to him.
  • Frugal: While nominally governing over one of the Imperium's most wealthy dominions, Arnst did not live lavishly. Instead, he dresses like a common worker and did things normaly a commoner would, such as smoking, drinking, and other things not befitting of a Noble. He owns very little personally compared to other Nobles, because the revenue collected by the Tianju Dominion went into the Supreme Soviet instead of him.
Biography: Arnst Urbach Moralos was born on New Shanghai, one of the earlier-settled planets of the Empire, to Heinz Emmerkar, a Noble of the steward House of Emmerkar, and a common lowborn, Shifa Moralos. His father Heinz was the heir apparent to Rutiger Emmerkar, the Lord-Steward of the Tianju Dominion, a position only second to Grand Duke Jia Xizhou, one of the Emperor's vassals. As a child, he was not taken into the Emmerkar Station (the space station that acts as the court of House Emmerkar), but instead settled with his mother in a particularly good, and expansive mansion in the shores of Yifu Bay, one of New Shanghai's prime real estate regions.

As he was a bastard, Arnst did not enjoy the same position Lord Heinz's trueborn children holds in court, but he was well-educated and enjoyed a prosperous early life regardless. He also often attends the Court in Emmerkar Station, and even the Grand Duke's court at Tiāntánghépínggōng (Palace of Heavenly Peace), the capital of New Shanghai. He was once an excellent student, particularly in the field of philosophy, mathematics, and engineering. Arnst had the privilege to read the "Communist Manifesto", an ancient Terran essay that dated back to the days of Old Earth - the magnum opus of two enlightened Terran philosophers - Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. The essay's contents are extremely outdated, but the message stays the same. Regardless, Arnst at first did not take the essay seriously, treating it as just another piece of prized ancient literature the librarians of Gudài Zhīshì Kù (Vault of Ancient Knowledge) - one of the Imperium's largest libraries - loved to research. At 22, Arnst graduated from the Imperial Technical College with a physics specialization (that includes creating and maintaining the Asimov Shield) and enlisted in the Imperial Navy.

His career in the Imperial Navy was noticeably short, but noticeable. After serving eight years in the Navy he was sent to a mission in the Large Magellanic Cloud, where an extremely fascist regime had toppled the legitimate ruling government of NGC 1783 globular cluster, and led the Alien forces into a crusade to expel Imperial forces in the Cloud. He proved an excellent Chief Engineer and even held the position of Captain for several years, before being assigned into another ship. One thing that Arnst observed from this bloody war, though, is that neither the Fascists nor the Imperialists cared about their own people, or even their own soldiers. Countless Imperial colony-worlds lie in ruins due to the war; Imperial soldiers took all the energy cells and food from these worlds, and the civillians are left starving. The fascists are even worse; Arnst regarded them as the lowest of the low of all governments because they are, to put it simply, plain hypocrites. They indoctrinated their citizens, claiming that the fascist government is born from a socialist movement and supported by the workers, when in reality the fascist regime controlled a series of legal cartels in what can only be described as corrupt state capitalism. While Arnst emerged from the LMC campaign as a war hero, he was thoroughly disillusioned by the Imperium. This feeling would be exacerbated as Arnst joined more and more Imperial military missions throughout his career. While in the outside, he masked his disappointment by presenting a very loyal attitude to the Emperor, this is all but a facade.

Thus, after a full fifty years in Imperial Navy service, Arnst resigned from his position of Captain at the ripe age of 67. By this time, his father Heinz Emmerkar has ascended as the Lord Steward of Tianju Dominion (which consisted of a part of the Cygnus Arm and the regions nearby). He was never legalized as an Emmerekar, though, so he was not eligible to receive inheritances. Nonetheless, Heinz allocated a portion of the estates to him... however, when Heinz Emmerkar died a year later, his true-born brothers vie for the Emmerkar inheritance - which also consisted of parts of the Veil Nebula, one of the Galaxy's largest sources of mineral and dark matter. As expected of a bastard, Arnst lost the clash, and was relegated into a small holding - the Green-Star Station, which administers the NGC 6826 (the "Blinking") Nebula, a planetary nebula that supplies raw materials and ships for the Tianju Dominion.

As the governor of an insignificant nebula within the Dominion, Arnst had little to do and plenty of spare time after his resignation (and pension) from the Imperial Navy. He lived a modest life, sometimes receivinng state guests and his former comrades from the Imperial Navy who came to visit. He also spent a great amount of time with the workers at the NGC 6826 Central Shipyard, the Tianju Dominion's primary shipbuilding facility. During this time, he also studied Imperial law and philosophy, attaining a Lawyer degree after five years of education. He immersed himself in ancient Terran literature - visiting the Gudài Zhīshì Kù so often and collecting ancient Terran books - including the Communist Manifesto, which he read earlier during his younger years. As time goes on, Arnst's views became more pragmatic and radical, and he started to institute several reforms that would diminish the power of the Central Shipyard's executive board. Finally, he sacked the Executive Board outright in a revolutionary move - inspired by the Socialist ideals propagated in the Terran books, he stepped down from the director position and estabilished a council made up of workers' union representatives to manage the shipyard. As he was a bastard, legally he cannot inherit the dominions of his half-brothers... but Arnst never really cared about it. At least not until all this action angered the current Lord Emmerkar, his half-brother, and Arnst was ordered to restore the executive board or face imprisonment. Not wanting his new reforms to be sort-lived just because of the greed of the Emmerkar nobles, he ignored these warnings; appealed to the workers' unions for support, and publicly renounced the Emmerkar lords.

He stopped the supply of ships going to New Shanghai, and using his claim (as an illegitimate son of Heinz Emmerkar), marched into Emmerkar station with brand-new ships and seized it for himself. Threatened by an unruly vassal, the reigning Grand Duke of New Shanghai, Jia Wenzhou, ordered Arnst to abdicate, undo all the radical reforms he instituted, and restore his brother as the head of House Emmerkar. Arnst refused, and a power struggle ensued between himself and the Grand Duke. In the end, Arnst ousted and executed the Grand Duke and his House himself, and by the Imperial laws the Tianju Dominion passes to him by right of conquest. Arnst now found himself as legally the sole owner of a vast Dominion at the end of the Norma-Cygnus Arm - and most importantly, a tiny, yet important the Veil Nebula, one of the Empire's largest sources of raw material and industrial goods.

However, he never forgot his base of supporters that helped him overthrow the Grand Duke - the workers, artisans, and farmers of Tianju, whom he appealed for support, and whom he introduced the socialist ideals he had gathered from the ancient Terran texts. Shortly after, he consolidated his dominions and formed the Cygnus Soviet, the new governing body of the Tianju Dominion, free from the shackles of feudalism. While Arnst is still the nominal head of government recognized by the Imperium (as a Noble), in reality the Tianju Dominion is ruled by a council of Syndicalist labour unions, under the umbrella banner of the Cygnus Communist Party. So far, this relatively insignificant speck of Noble dominion, with its weird system of government and peculiar leader has been largely ignored by Nova Terra in general, but a profound change would soon arrive to shake the Imperium...



Name of Territory: (official:) Tianju (Heavenly) Dominion, (common:) Cygnus-Norma Soviet
Government: (official:) Star Feudalism, (common:) One-Party Socialist State
Capital World: Urigrad/New Shanghai (Kepler-186f)
Population: 668 Billion (60% Human/Augmented, 40% Alien)
Economy:
  • Mineral Extraction: The Tianju Dominion, or commonly the Cygnus-Norma Soviet, hosted a part of the Veil Nebula, one of the Milky Way's largest and most productive star factories. As such, the Nebula is extremely rich in mineral and gas resources, providing a noticeable amount of the Imperium's natural resources production.
  • Industry: A thin, almost straightly-aligned route of star systems exist in the Tianju Dominion, with its inner end forming the gateway of the Veil Nebula and the outer end the hyperlane route to the Galactic Center. Planets here have been the center of industry for a long time - from shipyards to machine factories, foundries, and many more.
  • Trade: The Tianju Dominion connects the Norma arm with the Perseus Arm and the Galactic Center. New Shanghai (now Urigrad) is a quite bustling center of commerce and transit in the galaxy.

Culture: Much like pre-World War II Russia, the Tianju Dominion is a center of industrialization, and the worker, farmer, and miner collective culture is very strong. There exists all kinds of left-wing ideologies, some passed down from the age of Old Terra, some based on religion, like Zensunni; but the most common by all is the mix between Syndicalism and Communism, which is promoted by the Cygnus Communist Party - based on the works of Karl Marx, and of course, Uri Morelos. Overall, the culture is very diverse and immeasurable by any standards, as a planet alone quite often has more than a hundred distinct varieties of culture on its own. One thing that could be assured, though, is that the Proletarian revolutionary spirit runs strong in the population.

Social Structure: Far reformed from its feudal origins through a series of bloody purges, the Tianju Dominion is basically an one-party state controlled by the Cygnus Communist Party. Its social structure is highly egalitarian with no discrimination, based on whatever reasons (except for being a member of the "ruling class" is allowed. Its economy, which is semi-planned (capitalism exists and is allowed, but workers/trade union members must manage corporation, and most large companies is state-owned/state capitalism), is characterized also by egalitarian principles.

Territorial Size: The Tianju Dominion holds sovereignity over about several hundred stars as an Imperial vassal, of which half exists within the Veil Nebula. Eighty-six planets exists within its territory; of which only about twenty are superhabitable (one Gaia-class and nineteen Beta-class); four Gamma, four Omega, and six Cheti; the reminder are either Iota, Yota, or Zeta classes. The amount of natural resources present and noticeable industrialization allowed for the presence of about twenty-five space stations, of which about twelve are fit for "usual" human habitation. Numerous planetary bases exist within many of the Dominion's planets; some temporary, some with permanent habitation. An Omega-class planet, Nova Kazania, has been transformed into a semi-ecumenopolis about a hundred years ago, and hosted a significant amount of the Dominion's population.
Military and Security Forces:
  • Soviet Army: Non-conscription; volunteers undergo training for a minimal of 2.5 years before serving as Enlisted (Private). Training and equipment largely based on the Imperial Army, with several modifications to suit the needs of the Dominion better. Specialized regiments include synthetics, stealth/infiltration, cyberwarfare, and xenomorph. Active personnel of 498 million; reserve personnel of 800 Million
  • Soviet Navy: Generally the same as the Army in doctrine and organization. Modelled after the Imperial Navy with several modifications to suit the needs of the Dominion better. Marines and the Navy are two most important branches. Active personnel of 12 million, reserve personnel of 30 million (half of which are Marine personnel, and the Navy mostly ground and maintenance crews); 52,940 small drone/fighter/patrol ships, 1 Supercarrier, 3 Cruisers, 12 frigates and 38 corvettes.


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Postby Utceforp » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:43 am

Sarderia wrote:> Hereditary Aristocrat

> Leader of a Communist movement

He is the chosen one... The Grillmaster... Saviour of all centrists
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Postby The Empire of Tau » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:53 am

Utceforp wrote:
Sarderia wrote:> Hereditary Aristocrat

> Leader of a Communist movement

He is the chosen one... The Grillmaster... Saviour of all centrists

A true enlighten centrist with multiple political contradictions.
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Postby Union Princes » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:09 pm

The Empire of Tau wrote:
A true enlighten centrist with multiple political contradictions.

He's definitely someone that can unite all the revolutionary and reformists factions
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Postby Krugmar » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:27 pm

Name: Jove X | Jove Tarkane
Age: Current model: 196 | True age: unknown
Birth Date: Current model: 19,727 IC
Gender: Male
Planet of Origin: Officially: Har Garizim | Models produced: Gehenna | Original birthplace: Unknown
Race/Species: Human (Ancient cybernetically and augmented human clone)
Height: 6’3”
Weight: 86 kg
Physical Description or Image: At his current age and When younger are better representations actually
Social Class: Officially a noble, from a family famous for pious bishops, from Har Garizim. In reality this is a family from the Order, and is fabricated. As a construct, both in mind and body, of the Order, Jove lacks any real social class or background.
Titles: Dalain-Patriarch of the Mahayana Catheric Church
Saffron Pope
Arahant-Bishop of Jericho
Chakravartin of the Jovian Cycle
Grand Preceptor of the Imperium
Occupation: See titles
Hobbies/Pastimes: Reading and writing, delving into history, mythology, theology, the occult. War and strategy games.
Talents/Skills: Perhaps if all had gone to plan there would be naught that Jove could not do, but alas his ability to retrieve the memories necessary for skills he once practiced is gone. Despite this he could be considered a polymath, albeit one who is unable to truly excel at every chosen field. Of all his skills, however, he has done his best to keep up his scientific, medical, and mechanical knowledge, if only to ensure that if the Order fails, he will know how to keep himself alive.
Religious Beliefs: Jove has practiced many religions across his lifetimes, though none have truly touched his soul. Despite being the highest authority of the Mahayana Catheric Church, and a figure of worship by the Order, he is himself Agnostic.
Personality: To the Mahayana Catheric world he is the warm and charming Jove X, identical to his nine predecessors in every way. In reality Jove is unsure what to make of himself, or what 'himself' even is. With so many memories locked away, he is unsure as to which identity he has adopted bears an inkling of his true self, or if he was ever given the chance to have a real identity. Now worshipped as a god by his cult, and the Pope by an uncountable mass across the galaxy, he is slowly becoming more self-obsessed with his own importance. He is the New Man after all.
Biography:
The Uropa Project


It is unclear when the Uropa Project was initiated, who by, or ultimately for what purpose. Successive data blights, and the difficulties of keeping and restoring information over such vast tracts of time, have all but wiped this truth. High-ranking Vespera insist that it is a most ancient project, pursued from the earliest time of humanity by wise shamans, who would later coalesce into the Most Ancient Brotherhood of the Vespertine Mysteries, or the Vespertine Order for short.

Whatever the truth, from Jove’s deductions it appears the project was to create ‘the New Man’, one who would be perfect in every way, have experienced all that humanity could offer, and would have the immortal wisdom to guide humanity through the darkness into a new era. It is likely there was never a singular Uropa Project, as the Order seems to have tried multiple methods to create such a being, yet all ended in failure.

Whether the Order had anything to do with the great leap forward in cloning technology in the early days of the Imperium is as disputed amongst themselves as to whether they existed during those days. Needless to say much of the technology that was used to create the Jovian Model does originate from that era. The Jovian Model was the first to be stable upon successive cloning, and did not reject the organic and mechanical augmentations, nor did it seem to suffer from the Hawser Syndrome at any level.

Thus the body of Jove was born, but such a temple was not made for any regular mind. Through methods now lost, using cruel technology and the sacrifice of many victims, countless minds were cultivated and disposed of. It is unclear why #777616 was chosen, the only surviving data being that said mind was selected, but it is the mind that has survived all this time.

For a time Jove would take on an identity, and his physical appearance would be altered from that of its original form. This was part of his ‘birthing’ process, to experience humanity in a myriad of forms. Many of these would be humble lives, a peasant tilling the soil of a feudal world, a soldier bearing the brunt of the Imperium’s wars, a factory worker breaking bone to meet quotas. Sometimes the Order would facilitate a position of nobility for him, through bribery and forgery, and so thrust him into Imperial politics. A new face, a new name, but the same mind, over and over.

The method of continuation was itself composed of two parts. The primary was via an early form of Kasper Mnemonic Imagery, known as the Smriti to the Order through which Jove would have a clear continuation of genetic memory. The second was through the Shruthi Implant, a biomechanical device intended to be both a back-up system, and one which could hold ‘foreign’ memories. Thus in theory even if one is lost, the other can be used to rewrite the other.

And yet as the Imperium has declined in knowledge, so has the Order. Their mission seemingly complete and unstoppable, the Order receded from advancing their cause technologically, and now to this day is only just able to keep the cycle continuing, though they understand little of what they are doing, or how Jove’s body and mind work.

For Jove himself, the unnatural stretching of his life has had many side-effects. His augmentations have not been immune to data blights and plagues, and so his access to memories via the Shruthi Implant is inconsistent, with many moments locked, unavailable, or perhaps completely lost. His access to the genetic Smriti is equally as compromised, for reasons he is not entirely sure of. He has often found himself unconsciously accessing his genetic Smriti and seemingly accessing memories that are not his, and is thus becoming increasingly unable to differentiate what has truly happened in his past, and what is corrupted, false, or dreamt up.


A New Destiny


Aware of his limitations and decline, and that of the Order and Imperium both, Jove decided to end his ‘birthing’ process. The Order, once a secretive scientific organisation dedicated to the future of mankind, had over the ages devolved into a cult worshipping Jove. He directed the Vespera to their new purpose, infiltrating the Mahayana Catheric Church. It took time, but Jove was able to be patient, and soon the Order had gained control over the Church’s institutions.

Jove had selected the Church due to its belief in the literal reincarnation of its leaders, through cloning. Unlike Jove this had never created an unbroken chain, as successive Saffron Popes had fallen prey to internal or courtly intrigues, and were subsequently either excommunicated, or declared to have achieved Nirvana, never to reincarnate again. This suited Jove, for he could wear his ‘true face’ and ‘true name’, while retaining a high position of power within the Imperium from which to guide it.

For outsiders the Jovian Cycle has been remarkably peaceful, with the upper echelons of the Church continually backing him and his reincarnations. This is of course the machinations of the Order, which is now greatly intertwined with the Church. There does exist some tension, those who push for reform, or seek the end of this current cycle, but they have not yet breached the Order’s tight grip on Church politics.


Seven to Midnight


At first Jove was hopeful that his move into the limelight would work, that he would fulfill his purpose and be a guide for humanity and the Imperium. He greatly underestimated the task before him, and his own abilities. Despite his best efforts he has been unable to subsume or destroy the other major religions, nor has he been able to exert much influence on the Imperial Court due to the rise of Terranism.

Now he is a prisoner, of his position, and of his mind. The ancient and archaic technology used to create him, to continue him, is finally failing. Where once he had clarity of vision, backed by lifetimes of knowledge, now he is filled with doubt. He doubts his purpose, his mission, his morality, and most of all his identity.

The clock ticks on the Imperium, and the New Man finds himself lost, speechless, and unable to act. He drifts further inward, as his mind fractures and reality becomes increasingly blurred.


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The Saffron State


Name of Territory: State of the Church | Papal States | the Saffron State
Government: Theocratic absolute elective monarchy
Capital World: Jericho
Population: I couldn't give a number, but likely trillions?
Economy: Likely a standard economy, although citizens on shrine worlds are likely heavily subsidised by the government, which relies upon tithes from across the galaxy to fund its extravagance.
Culture: There is a juxtaposition between the faithful, descendants of those who moved to the Saffron State for the faith, and the regular citizenry, for who the state is simply another place in the Imperium to live. Neither espouses a culture particularly different to that found in the Imperium, given that both are readily found anywhere in the galaxy.
Social Structure:
Territorial Size: Significant worlds:
Jericho - Gamma-class Ecumenopolis, which houses the Holy House of God the Father, and the Amida Palace, official residence of the Saffron Pope
Nirvana - Alpha-class Gaia world, the private abode of the Saffron Pope and Cardinals
Nova Roma - Beta-class continental world, the Holy Tomb World of God the Redeemer
Sri Lumbini - Beta-class continental world, the Holy Tomb World of God the Awakened
Gehenna - Zeta-class dead dwarf planet, officially an unused planet, but home to the Order's main base of operations
Har Garizim - Beta-class continental world, was of little importance until it was chosen as Jove's 'birthplace', now a significant world full of shrines to him.
Naraka - Yota-class volcanic world, used as a lightly-supervised open prison

As for the actual size of the entire domain, I don’t want to give an arbitrary number, so suffice to say it’s probably fairly large, as large as makes sense for an Ecumenical Order to have.
Military and Security Forces: The Supreme Military Commander of the Saffron State is known as the Gonfalonier of the Church
  • Svitz Guard - An ancient force, and the personal bodyguard of the Saffron Pope. They number a thousand. Although usually ceremonial, with archaic uniforms to match, they are skilled soldiers.
  • Noble Guard - Formed during the merger, they were initially scions of the Mahayana faith. They keep this history by wearing crimson robes with their uniform. They number a thousand.
  • Palatine Guard - Formed during the merger, they were initially scions of the Catheric faith. They number a thousand.
  • Papal Army - In times of peace more a police force than an army. Relatively small, to be bolstered by conscription and mercenaries in a time of conflict.
  • Papal Fleet - Like the army a relatively small fleet primarily designed for peacekeeping, and for protecting Pilgrim Fleets.
  • Pilgrim Fleets - While the Papacy's armed navy is relatively small, it does possess a vast amount of ships used for transporting people and relics (and physical tithes) across the galaxy. If needed these could be converted into a makeshift armed fleet.

Misc:


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The Mahayana Catheric Church

Not part of the app but stuff developed about the Church, its structure, lore, key players, etc. will go here
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Postby Revlona » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:35 pm

What are the highest ranks one can achieve in the military (both ground forces side and naval) without being a governor?

And is the military decentralized like the other parts of the empire? Like with individual defense forces? Both centralized and decentralised?
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Postby Segmentia » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:40 pm

Revlona wrote:What are the highest ranks one can achieve in the military (both ground forces side and naval) without being a governor?

And is the military decentralized like the other parts of the empire? Like with individual defense forces? Both centralized and decentralised?


The rank list is in the OP posts.
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Postby Remnants of Exilvania » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:45 pm

Revlona wrote:What are the highest ranks one can achieve in the military (both ground forces side and naval) without being a governor?

And is the military decentralized like the other parts of the empire? Like with individual defense forces? Both centralized and decentralised?

More importantly, what is the minimum rank required to be a governour?
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Postby Imperialisium » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:51 pm

Remnants of Exilvania wrote:
Revlona wrote:What are the highest ranks one can achieve in the military (both ground forces side and naval) without being a governor?

And is the military decentralized like the other parts of the empire? Like with individual defense forces? Both centralized and decentralised?

More importantly, what is the minimum rank required to be a governour?


There isn’t a minimum. Governorship ranks aren’t intrinsically tied to military rank. You could be a Colonel on some backwater world with only a battalion of Army troopers and designated as the Amban of that planet. The governorship titles pertain to jurisdiction and of said jurisdiction includes civil and/or military control over a specific territory.
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Postby Revlona » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:56 pm

Segmentia wrote:
Revlona wrote:What are the highest ranks one can achieve in the military (both ground forces side and naval) without being a governor?

And is the military decentralized like the other parts of the empire? Like with individual defense forces? Both centralized and decentralised?


The rank list is in the OP posts.


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Postby Revlona » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:01 pm

Time to send in the Guard against the Commies

I'm struggling to pick between A navy, guard, or even a potential Praetorian character
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Postby Remnants of Exilvania » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:06 pm

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Remnants of Exilvania wrote:More importantly, what is the minimum rank required to be a governour?


There isn’t a minimum. Governorship ranks aren’t intrinsically tied to military rank. You could be a Colonel on some backwater world with only a battalion of Army troopers and designated as the Amban of that planet. The governorship titles pertain to jurisdiction and of said jurisdiction includes civil and/or military control over a specific territory.

Neat. Disgraced Imperial Guard Colonel sitting on the fringe of Periphery is a go.

Say, can a planet end up having both an Amtsbeg and an Amban?
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Postby Imperialisium » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:07 pm

Revlona wrote:Time to send in the Guard against the Commies

I'm struggling to pick between A navy, guard, or even a potential Praetorian character


Tbh Navy would probably be best. Guard are essentially fanatical loyalists and Praetorians are off limits.
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Postby Imperialisium » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:09 pm

Remnants of Exilvania wrote:
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There isn’t a minimum. Governorship ranks aren’t intrinsically tied to military rank. You could be a Colonel on some backwater world with only a battalion of Army troopers and designated as the Amban of that planet. The governorship titles pertain to jurisdiction and of said jurisdiction includes civil and/or military control over a specific territory.

Neat. Disgraced Imperial Guard Colonel sitting on the fringe of Periphery is a go.

Say, can a planet end up having both an Amtsbeg and an Amban?


No. The closest you get is Siridar which are civil appointed governors given jurisdiction over military forces assigned to their territory.
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Postby Remnants of Exilvania » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:11 pm

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Remnants of Exilvania wrote:Neat. Disgraced Imperial Guard Colonel sitting on the fringe of Periphery is a go.

Say, can a planet end up having both an Amtsbeg and an Amban?


No. The closest you get is Siridar which are civil appointed governors given jurisdiction over military forces assigned to their territory.

So even administrative mistakes like that do not happen in the fringes?
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Postby Bolslania » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:13 pm

Revlona wrote:Time to send in the Guard against the Commies

I'm struggling to pick between A navy, guard, or even a potential Praetorian character

That could be some good Fed versus Local conflict between your and my character. Like not a violent shoot out but ya know how local police don't like feds.

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Postby Imperialisium » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:14 pm

Remnants of Exilvania wrote:
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No. The closest you get is Siridar which are civil appointed governors given jurisdiction over military forces assigned to their territory.

So even administrative mistakes like that do not happen in the fringes?


Given the Galactic Imperium is actually decently competent compared to other staples like Star Wars GE or 40ks IoM such a mistake would be very rare and immediately corrected.
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Postby Remnants of Exilvania » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:14 pm

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Remnants of Exilvania wrote:So even administrative mistakes like that do not happen in the fringes?


Given the Galactic Imperium is actually decently competent compared to other staples like Star Wars GE or 40ks IoM such a mistake would be very rare and immediately corrected.

Roger that.
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Postby Revlona » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:16 pm

Navy, hmm

I'm trying to decide which Rank would give me the most flexibility

Grand Admiral obviously has the distinction of being the highest rank but Admiral might have a bit more freedom

Though I might be wildly wrong
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Postby Imperialisium » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:17 pm

Revlona wrote:Navy, hmm

I'm trying to decide which Rank would give me the most flexibility

Grand Admiral obviously has the distinction of being the highest rank but and Admiral might have a bit more freedom

Though I might be wildly wrong


Admiral would probably be best.
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Postby Revlona » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:18 pm

Imperialisium wrote:
Revlona wrote:Navy, hmm

I'm trying to decide which Rank would give me the most flexibility

Grand Admiral obviously has the distinction of being the highest rank but and Admiral might have a bit more freedom

Though I might be wildly wrong


Admiral would probably be best.


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Postby Bolslania » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:35 pm

Imperialisium wrote:
Revlona wrote:Navy, hmm

I'm trying to decide which Rank would give me the most flexibility

Grand Admiral obviously has the distinction of being the highest rank but and Admiral might have a bit more freedom

Though I might be wildly wrong


Admiral would probably be best.

So I figured that as a governor of several worlds, and due to the nature of the worlds, Marshal would fit best, what's your opinion on that?

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Postby Revlona » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:37 pm

How often do naval battles occur?

I assume their are most likely some skirmishes that my Admiral could gain experience from at the least?
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