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Postby Bolslania » Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:59 pm

So here's the thing, I'm playing as a military governor of a Cheti planet. So one of you revolutionaries might choose to start a workers revolt. I'm on the verge of being a loyalist or a warlord. Whaddya yall think?
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Postby Union Princes » Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:04 pm

Bolslania wrote:So here's the thing, I'm playing as a military governor of a Cheti planet. So one of you revolutionaries might choose to start a workers revolt. I'm on the verge of being a loyalist or a warlord. Whaddya yall think?


I think that can be arranged with Tau or the others. My character would be a governor of a death world
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:39 pm

Does the Empire have a form of centralised currency? I can imagine that many planets use their own, but is there a central currency for imperial payments? And, if so, is it a fiat currency, or is it backed by anything? I imagine coinage and paper money could be backed by energy, water, carbon, or even hydrogen, but it could just as well be fiat.

I’m asking, because I always enjoying the nitty-gritty economics of space empires, especially those which grow increasingly corrupt.
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Postby The Empire of Tau » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:57 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Does the Empire have a form of centralised currency? I can imagine that many planets use their own, but is there a central currency for imperial payments? And, if so, is it a fiat currency, or is it backed by anything? I imagine coinage and paper money could be backed by energy, water, carbon, or even hydrogen, but it could just as well be fiat.

I’m asking, because I always enjoying the nitty-gritty economics of space empires, especially those which grow increasingly corrupt.

This is just a guess, but I would assume that there is some kind of central currency. The only evidence I have is the existence of the Galactic Commercial Combine and the Imperial Interstellar Spacing Guild, unless the two megacorps run millions of local currency exchange calculations on the daily, which I would imagine would be a hellish process.
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Postby Revlona » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:34 pm

What are the highest ranks one can achieve in the military without being a governor?
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Postby Bentus » Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:27 pm

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Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Does the Empire have a form of centralised currency? I can imagine that many planets use their own, but is there a central currency for imperial payments? And, if so, is it a fiat currency, or is it backed by anything? I imagine coinage and paper money could be backed by energy, water, carbon, or even hydrogen, but it could just as well be fiat.

I’m asking, because I always enjoying the nitty-gritty economics of space empires, especially those which grow increasingly corrupt.

This is just a guess, but I would assume that there is some kind of central currency. The only evidence I have is the existence of the Galactic Commercial Combine and the Imperial Interstellar Spacing Guild, unless the two megacorps run millions of local currency exchange calculations on the daily, which I would imagine would be a hellish process.


I also agree w/ a centralized currency. Though maybe only the wealthy and those partaking in interplanetary trade have access to it. That'd exacerbate existing class divides and reinforce the inequality existent between those locked to their homeworlds and those who really have the ability to exploit a whole galaxy of opportunities. As for fiat v backed currency, I'm not sure. It probably depends on the technology and how trade functions within this society. Originally I was going to say fiat, since the Imperial administration is so all-powerful they could enforce a value for the currency without needing to convince some other state. But then again, a backed currency might make sense if there's a good deal of uncertainty present within the Imperium. Or hell, maybe it's fiat but certain fringe worlds have stopped accepting it as the monetary system of the Imperium is starting to fray at the seams (though that's going to be a right pain to keep track of).
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Postby Segmentia » Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:38 pm

I think you guys are missing the fact that life was generally pretty good throughout the Imperium for thousands and thousands of years. It's only pretty recently that things have started to fall apart, and we aren't even really at the tipping point just yet, as far as I'm aware.
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Postby Revlona » Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:39 pm

Segmentia wrote:I think you guys are missing the fact that life was generally pretty good throughout the Imperium for thousands and thousands of years. It's only pretty recently that things have started to fall apart, and we aren't even really at the tipping point just yet, as far as I'm aware.


Indeed

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Postby The Empire of Tau » Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:43 pm

If not fiat then maybe backed by something like FTL-Fuel? A certain amount of currency equaling a certain amount of fuel, or even just having the fuel itself be currency, albeit it might be a logistical nightmare to do so.

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Postby Bentus » Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:48 pm

Segmentia wrote:I think you guys are missing the fact that life was generally pretty good throughout the Imperium for thousands and thousands of years. It's only pretty recently that things have started to fall apart, and we aren't even really at the tipping point just yet, as far as I'm aware.


It looks like the Era of Stagnation and Decline has been going on for 7000 or so years - so I don't think things would be looking all that great. But that being said, I do think we should clear of 40k total-shit-has-hit-the-fan-and-it-has-gone-everywhere grimdark. Things are probably fine for most of the citizenry, and the average life expectancy of a few centuries means that even the poor get access to medical care that far exceeds our own. I think it's probably more of a case that the divide between the haves and the have-nots has grown exceptionally wide, and there are certain populations and regions where things are likely in particular not great.

Though I do think it'd be nice to have some more loyalists around. The Imperium having been around for so long and still being relatively stable (hell, it spans the entire galaxy - it's a wonder how well it's held together) means that it's definitely been doing plenty of things right and it must enjoy significant popular support.
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Postby Imperialisium » Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:09 pm

What is the currency? Uh...well who ever controls the Spice, controls the Universe.
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Postby Union Princes » Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:14 pm

Imperialisium wrote:What is the currency? Uh...well who ever controls the Spice, controls the Universe.


So you're saying that there is some hyperinflation going on?

That would do it.
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Postby Imperialisium » Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:28 pm

Union Princes wrote:
Imperialisium wrote:What is the currency? Uh...well who ever controls the Spice, controls the Universe.


So you're saying that there is some hyperinflation going on?

That would do it.


lol. Joke on my part.

I added a blurp on the first part of the OP at the bottom. Basically there is one Imperial currency and one sanctioned unofficial one (the trade off is the unofficial one is more volatile). There are however all manner of local monies with the only rule is that they have to be pegged to the Imperial currency (thus favoring the Imperial Government when it comes to commerce). Since most denizens of the galaxy seldom leave their home star systems let alone Star Clusters this is typically a workable system.

Also yes, the gap between haves not and haves has grown very wide. However, this isn't a common inverse problem were rich get richer and everyone else gets poorer (though one that is slowly occurring as time has passed as things become more uncertain and chaotic in the Galaxy).
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Postby Union Princes » Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:45 pm

I was thinking of this coalition between the revolutionary and reformist characters be called the Motus Vox Populi or The Voice of the People Movement. That way we can form our own sub-factions around the Lenin character from Sarderia
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Postby Imperialisium » Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:34 pm

Union Princes wrote:I was thinking of this coalition between the revolutionary and reformist characters be called the Motus Vox Populi or The Voice of the People Movement. That way we can form our own sub-factions around the Lenin character from Sarderia


Just make sure you guys set this up narratively
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Postby The Empire of Tau » Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:45 pm

Any ETA on that finished OOC page?

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Postby Imperialisium » Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:46 pm

The Empire of Tau wrote:Any ETA on that finished OOC page?


I should have it done this weekend and be officially accepting tomorrow
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Postby New New Sriker » Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:09 am

Will there be a list of the various xeno species and how bad is the anti-xeno sentiment in the Imperium?

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Postby Rodez » Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:32 am

It's clear that we need some space reactionaries up in this joint!
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Postby Union Princes » Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:37 am

Rodez wrote:It's clear that we need some space reactionaries up in this joint!


That can also be my character if the coalition falls apart.
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Postby New New Sriker » Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:46 am

Union Princes wrote:
Rodez wrote:It's clear that we need some space reactionaries up in this joint!


That can also be my character if the coalition falls apart.

Hopefully we maintain the coalition

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Postby Imperialisium » Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:46 am

New New Sriker wrote:Will there be a list of the various xeno species and how bad is the anti-xeno sentiment in the Imperium?


There are thousands of Xenos species. Even more of you account for non-sentient species, a number of whom have been domesticated and bred much like irl domesticated animals to suit the populations needs. So a definitive list will not be forthcoming.

In terms of sentiment. Overall the Galactic Imperium is tolerant in the legislative sense. As the Lex Imperialis doesn’t make special statutes based on species. Indeed for every world in which there might be anti-Xenos sentiment there is one which is cosmopolitan in species make up. Generally, most anti-Xenos sentiment is likely in the Periphery. The last region of the Galaxy (comprising three outer 30-40,000 light years of the Galaxy) assimilated by the Imperium and were many worlds are less settled, is where you’ll see harsher sentiments.

Outside of direct Imperial Worlds things are a mixed bag and the GI doesn’t really infringe on the individual treaties and the SAS, Protectorates, or private territories of the Houses.
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Postby Bolslania » Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:51 am

Imperialisium wrote:
New New Sriker wrote:Will there be a list of the various xeno species and how bad is the anti-xeno sentiment in the Imperium?


There are thousands of Xenos species. Even more of you account for non-sentient species, a number of whom have been domesticated and bred much like irl domesticated animals to suit the populations needs. So a definitive list will not be forthcoming.

In terms of sentiment. Overall the Galactic Imperium is tolerant in the legislative sense. As the Lex Imperialis doesn’t make special statutes based on species. Indeed for every world in which there might be anti-Xenos sentiment there is one which is cosmopolitan in species make up. Generally, most anti-Xenos sentiment is likely in the Periphery. The last region of the Galaxy (comprising three outer 30-40,000 light years of the Galaxy) assimilated by the Imperium and were many worlds are less settled, is where you’ll see harsher sentiments.

Outside of direct Imperial Worlds things are a mixed bag and the GI doesn’t really infringe on the individual treaties and the SAS, Protectorates, or private territories of the Houses.


So how many planets does the Imperium still have a firm hold on?
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Postby Imperialisium » Sun Oct 11, 2020 12:22 pm

Bolslania wrote:
Imperialisium wrote:
There are thousands of Xenos species. Even more of you account for non-sentient species, a number of whom have been domesticated and bred much like irl domesticated animals to suit the populations needs. So a definitive list will not be forthcoming.

In terms of sentiment. Overall the Galactic Imperium is tolerant in the legislative sense. As the Lex Imperialis doesn’t make special statutes based on species. Indeed for every world in which there might be anti-Xenos sentiment there is one which is cosmopolitan in species make up. Generally, most anti-Xenos sentiment is likely in the Periphery. The last region of the Galaxy (comprising three outer 30-40,000 light years of the Galaxy) assimilated by the Imperium and were many worlds are less settled, is where you’ll see harsher sentiments.

Outside of direct Imperial Worlds things are a mixed bag and the GI doesn’t really infringe on the individual treaties and the SAS, Protectorates, or private territories of the Houses.


So how many planets does the Imperium still have a firm hold on?


Theoretically. All of them. Practicality, results may very but proclaiming secession like 3 pages into the IC would probably not be wise.
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Postby Caltharus » Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:20 pm

I'll join with a Great House and it's two heirs who will eventually have to make the choice between loyalty to the Imperium and loyalty to the House and their father. The House would be quite venerable and thus own a sizeable domain. However that makes their realm hard to manage and thus a possible breeding ground for revolutionaries. This instability in turn forces the house to turn more and more inwards in an attempt to hold on to it's holdings.

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