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Postby Segmentia » Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:53 pm

*Greatest and most ancient Great House frowns*
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Postby The Empire of Tau » Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:36 pm

The living conditions of people can vary from pretty good to crushing poverty in the Imperium? Just want to make sure.

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Postby Union Princes » Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:23 pm

What you guys think of us revolutionaries banding together into a single coalition? We're after the goal of reforming the Imperium
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Postby Sarderia » Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:27 pm

The Empire of Tau wrote:The living conditions of people can vary from pretty good to crushing poverty in the Imperium? Just want to make sure.

I doubt it would be all joy and happy utopia for everyone :p

Union Princes wrote:What you guys think of us revolutionaries banding together into a single coalition? We're after the goal of reforming the Imperium

Actually this is what I want to propose, they have a common enemy in the Imperium, and they should ally first and bicker later

Though Space Lenin's ultimate goal would be uniting the Galaxy in a grand, proletarian, and Soviet state, of course. :twisted:
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Postby Union Princes » Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:50 pm

With my character, it would be the Soviet Union with Fascist characteristics
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Postby New New Sriker » Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:39 pm

Union Princes wrote:With my character, it would be the Soviet Union with Fascist characteristics

By fascist do you mean just Ultra-nationalism mixed with a socialist economy or just State capitalism

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:42 pm

Union Princes wrote:With my character, it would be the Soviet Union with Fascist characteristics

So, the Soviet Union. ‘Red’ fascism.
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Postby Union Princes » Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:22 pm

New New Sriker wrote:
Union Princes wrote:With my character, it would be the Soviet Union with Fascist characteristics

By fascist do you mean just Ultra-nationalism mixed with a socialist economy or just State capitalism

The former
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Postby Imperialisium » Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:28 pm

Sarderia wrote:
The Empire of Tau wrote:The living conditions of people can vary from pretty good to crushing poverty in the Imperium? Just want to make sure.

I doubt it would be all joy and happy utopia for everyone :p

Union Princes wrote:What you guys think of us revolutionaries banding together into a single coalition? We're after the goal of reforming the Imperium

Actually this is what I want to propose, they have a common enemy in the Imperium, and they should ally first and bicker later

Though Space Lenin's ultimate goal would be uniting the Galaxy in a grand, proletarian, and Soviet state, of course. :twisted:


Living conditions vary wildly. Generally on Imperial Worlds the quality of life is well above 21st century Earth's first world nations. However, planets vary in wealth, economic importance, level of infrastructure, and population. In House, SAS, and Protectorate territories the results range from well below the standard of Imperial Worlds, even having much lower tech, to being well above. You could even have a mining world with squalid work conditions be in the same system as a wealthy world were people live on average long and happy lives with few illnesses and afflictions.

However, the trend is towards decline.
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Postby Union Princes » Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:08 pm

If we're gonna do this coalition alliance between the revolutionaries and the reformists, we should at least preplan the inner factions first.

I'm thinking of my faction being nicknamed the "Blackshirts" because of their black uniforms of my character's inner circle
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Postby Sarderia » Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:19 pm

Union Princes wrote:If we're gonna do this coalition alliance between the revolutionaries and the reformists, we should at least preplan the inner factions first.

I'm thinking of my faction being nicknamed the "Blackshirts" because of their black uniforms of my character's inner circle

I think I'll make two characters, one a SAS/Great House leader and the other the revolutionary. The SAS/Great House leader would be basically a NPC, and the roleplay would revolve in how the revolutionary managed to overthrow the Noble/Governor and estabilish himself as leader instead. Then things would go downhill, more revolutionary uprisings happened, encouraged by this person, etc, etc.
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Postby Union Princes » Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:22 pm

I'm planning on my character being a governor of a death world designated as a penal colony which she is reforming the inmates into loyal Imperial citizens through fear and military discipline.
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Postby Sarderia » Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:24 pm

Union Princes wrote:I'm planning on my character being a governor of a death world designated as a penal colony which she is reforming the inmates into loyal Imperial citizens through fear and military discipline.

Not the glorious Revolutionary ideals?
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Postby Union Princes » Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:27 pm

Reform would be the term my character would use. She's not trying to overthrow the entire system; she wants to try to fix the current government to be as coldy efficient as possible. Revolution if necessary
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Postby Imperialisium » Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:30 pm

Well long con and backstabbing is a theme. So...revolution...counter-revolution...revolutionary leaders turning on each other over doctrine etc.
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Postby The Empire of Tau » Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:32 pm

Union Princes wrote:Reform would be the term my character would use. She's not trying to overthrow the entire system; she wants to try to fix the current government to be as coldy efficient as possible. Revolution if necessary

That's goes against everything of my planned character's revolutionary ideals of freedom, equality, and the right to existence. Don't know about Sarderia, tho he is also a fellow socialist revolutionary.

Your reformists will not be welcomed into the revolution, and will be counted as reactionary.
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Postby Union Princes » Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:40 pm

The Empire of Tau wrote:That's goes against everything of my planned character's revolutionary ideals of freedom, equality, and the right to existence. Don't know about Sarderia, tho he is also a fellow socialist revolutionary.

Your reformists will not be welcomed into the revolution.


The revolutionaries don't like egalitarian meritocracy? I figured they would be united to try to make the system have more social mobility.
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Postby The Empire of Tau » Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:47 pm

Union Princes wrote:she wants to try to fix the current government to be as coldy efficient as possible.

That does not sound very egalitarian meritocracy to me. Lel.

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Postby Sarderia » Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:28 pm

The Empire of Tau wrote:
Union Princes wrote:Reform would be the term my character would use. She's not trying to overthrow the entire system; she wants to try to fix the current government to be as coldy efficient as possible. Revolution if necessary

That's goes against everything of my planned character's revolutionary ideals of freedom, equality, and the right to existence. Don't know about Sarderia, tho he is also a fellow socialist revolutionary.

Your reformists will not be welcomed into the revolution, and will be counted as reactionary.

My character is basically Lenin; he wants to abolish the Monarchy, the Emperor, the system of these nobles and priests and corporate CEOs and replace it with a single Socialist Party that would control everything. Also, the power of worker unions would not be diminished, since he's quite experienced with bottom-up socialism (not the top-down socialism a la the USSR).
    So comrades, come rally,
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Postby Brusia » Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:31 pm

Hey, glad to see this back again! Figured I'd bring my character from the previous iterations back if that's alright:

Name: Johnathan Aetius
Nickname: "Blackjack" and "The Hero of Rigel IV"
Age: 93
Birth Date: 25,616
Gender: Male
Planet of Origin: Nova Terra
Race/Species: Genetically-modified human
Height: 6'2''
Weight: 170lbs
Physical Description or Image: Out of armor, In combat armor
Social Class: Though only minor nobility, the Aetii are highly devoted to military service, and are renowned for having produced some of the Imperium's finest officers spanning back countless generations.
Titles: High-General
Occupation: High-General in the Imperium Army
Hobbies/Pastimes: Enjoys studying military history, strategy, and tactics, as well as training, sparring, and most of all: war.
Talents/Skills: A brilliant strategist and tactician, exceptional swordsman, and a good shot.
Religious Beliefs: Adherent of the Fides Martii, a religion popular among some in the Imperial military which teaches that one can enter the paradise of Elysium through honorable conduct and glory acquired through battle.
Personality: An honorable, no-nonsense soldier through and through. He cares for little outside of battle and the men under his command, and couldn't give two-shits about politics except for when it interferes with his ability to do his duty. While he can be quite vocal about certain issues with his closest confidants in private, in public he has a reputation for being somewhat taciturn, preferring to speak with his actions more than his words. That said, he can say much while speaking little, and his men have learned to pay close attention to what he does have to say.
Biography: From the moment he was conceived, Johnathan Aetius was destined to become a soldier and leader of men. His father spared no expense in having him genetically-modified to be faster, smarter, and stronger than the average man for precisely that purpose; and his youth was devoted entirely to perfecting the art of war. In addition to studying military history, strategy, and tactics, the young Aetius was subjected to a variety of brutal combat techniques and martial arts forms, as well as training with a vast array of firearms and other weapons. Though skilled with a rifle, Aetius proved to be particularly adept as a swordsman, and after only a few years training was often able to even defeat his instructors with a blade.

An unfortunate side-effect of his genetic-modifications was that the increased metabolic rate that helped to make his stronger and faster also caused him to age more rapidly than the average human, so to offset the time lost to his genetics his father arranged for him to being his formal training at the Nova Terra Officer's Academy at the age of 14. The training was tough, but Aetius' father had seen that he was more than prepared for it. He routinely outperformed his compatriots in nearly all of his classes, and two years later graduated at the top of his class. His skills caught the eye of the Imperial Guard, who selected him for additional training with their organization. The training was excruciatingly brutal, and over the course of the year-long training program only half of the class lived to see graduation. Fortunately, Aetius was among those survivors, and thanks to his prior officer's training was commissioned into the Guard as a Lieutenant. As a graduation present, his father spent a small fortune on a prototype plasma blade so that his son could play to his strengths in the battles to come, and Aetius continues to wield that weapon to this day.

Eager to earn some glory for himself and his family, Aetius signed on to lead the most dangerous missions the Guard had to offer. Though many such missions had been written off as suicide runs, Aetius returned victorious from each assignment; resulting in a rapid rise through the ranks, and earning him the nickname "Blackjack." He reached the rank of Commander by the age of 38, but the further he rose through the ranks, the more he began to butt heads with his superiors. He didn't share the fanatical devotion to the Emperor that many in the Guard had, and where most would obey their orders unquestioningly, Aetius' strong sense of honor led to his conveniently having equipment failures when he was ordered to do things he considered dishonorable. Finally, when he was ordered to violently suppress a civilian protest, he decided he'd had enough and put in for an immediate transfer to the Imperial Army.

The Army was only too glad to take in someone with Aetius' record, and after transferring him in at the rank of Lieutenant Colonel, he was placed in command of a Battalion. When Aetius arrived, he was appalled at what he considered to be a lack of discipline and poor training among the Battalion's grunts. He immediately devised his own training regimen based off of the Guard's training and the regimen his father had designed for him, and ordered every officer and soldier in the Battalion to participate. Though most hated Aetius at first (and some even talked of mutiny), when the Battalion was deployed to its first combat zone the men soon began to understand the training's value. Following their first major engagement, Aetius' Battalion suffered fewer casualties while inflicting more enemy fatalities than any other Battalion in the Sector Army. That he fought on the frontlines alongside his men throughout the entire engagement quickly earned him the respect of the officers and troops under him, and it wasn't long before he was promoted to the rank of Colonel.

As the years dragged on, Aetius continued to fight on the frontlines despite getting shot, stabbed, burned, blown up, and having the scars to show for it. This earned him the undying loyalty of his men, and helped him continue to rapidly rise through the ranks; reaching General at the age of 75 and continuing to mandate his elite training regimen for everyone in the Third Army which was placed under his command. At 81 he gained the greatest boon to his reputation during the Battle of Rigel IV. Though his Army had fought well, Aetius' requests for reinforcements fell on deaf ears, and he instead received orders to evacuate the planet and redeploy to a combat area deemed to be of greater strategic interest. That this would mean leaving the 10 million citizens of the Imperium living in the planet's capital at the mercy of their enemy evidently meant little to his superiors, and Aetius ended up suffering from one of his famous communications equipment malfunctions before he could confirm his orders. He did manage to call in a few favors before the equipment mysteriously broke down, and was able to get a transport fleet large enough to evacuate the Capital rerouted to their position, but it would take four days for them to arrive.

Aetius used every trick in the book to hold the enemy at bay, deploying all manner of traps and ambush tactics to whittle down their numbers and keep the fighting out of the Capital. Despite being outnumbered 10 to one, Aetius' soldiers fought with extraordinary courage and valor, and with Aetius leading them from the front, managed to overcome the odds and kept the city safe until the transports could arrive to evacuate them and the civilians to safety. Fortunately, the fact that no one could definitively prove that Aetius ever received the confirmed order to evacuate the planet kept him from being court-martialed, and when the media learned of what happened from the rescued civilians, they quickly jumped on the story: proclaiming Aetius the "Hero of Rigel IV" and praising the bravery of the Imperium soldiers who gave their lives to protect the citizens of the Imperium. The story provided a much needed boost to the Imperium's morale, and after the Emperor himself praised the Third Army's actions, Aetius' superiors quickly changed their tune and competed to take credit for ordering Aetius to defend the planet. Ultimately, one of the Emperor's Joint Chiefs won out, and to try and make everything look more convincing, he awarded Aetius with the highest honor that could be bestowed in the Imperium military, and promoted him to the rank of High-General.

Placed in command of an entire Sector Army, Aetius proceeded to implement his training regimen for the millions of troops under his authority, and over the course of the last two years has refined them into the one of the finest fighting forces in the entire Imperium. His actions at Rigel IV helped to cement his soldiers' loyalty for him, and as he continued to fight alongside them in spite of his high rank, he inspired in many a devotion nearly as fierce as the Guards have for their Emperor. This has led to a concern among some Imperium brass that the men under Aetius' command may be more loyal to their General than they are to the Emperor, and some of his more envious rivals have even begun to demand that Aetius be removed from his command, lest he try and use his soldiers to make a play for the Imperial Throne. For his part, Aetius has done everything in his power to avoid the political mess the Imperium now finds itself in, and has focused his time and attention on that greatest of human endeavors: war.

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Postby The National Dominion of Hungary » Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:14 pm

This looks just great, considering to apply with some Space-Ptolemies :)

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:47 am

Sarderia wrote:
The Empire of Tau wrote:That's goes against everything of my planned character's revolutionary ideals of freedom, equality, and the right to existence. Don't know about Sarderia, tho he is also a fellow socialist revolutionary.

Your reformists will not be welcomed into the revolution, and will be counted as reactionary.

My character is basically Lenin; he wants to abolish the Monarchy, the Emperor, the system of these nobles and priests and corporate CEOs and replace it with a single Socialist Party that would control everything. Also, the power of worker unions would not be diminished, since he's quite experienced with bottom-up socialism (not the top-down socialism a la the USSR).


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Postby Olthenia » Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:54 am

Oh my.

This is... interesting.

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Postby New New Sriker » Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:38 am

Sarderia wrote:
The Empire of Tau wrote:That's goes against everything of my planned character's revolutionary ideals of freedom, equality, and the right to existence. Don't know about Sarderia, tho he is also a fellow socialist revolutionary.

Your reformists will not be welcomed into the revolution, and will be counted as reactionary.

My character is basically Lenin; he wants to abolish the Monarchy, the Emperor, the system of these nobles and priests and corporate CEOs and replace it with a single Socialist Party that would control everything. Also, the power of worker unions would not be diminished, since he's quite experienced with bottom-up socialism (not the top-down socialism a la the USSR).

My character is a Union man who is leading a general strike on his planet and is trying to secure working rights for the workers, the way he gets those rights could be violent and non-violent but it matters on what the planet government does to the strikers. Most likely if things get down to a revolution, he would agree to work alongside any organizations that share similar goals as him.

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Postby Union Princes » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:12 am

So we got me, striker, tau and Sarderia in this coalition with Sarderia in charge with the Lenin character. Is there anyone else want to join in?
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