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Postby Endem » Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:05 pm

By the way, what is a good way to start a religion?
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Postby Suriyanakhon » Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:42 pm

Endem wrote:By the way, what is a good way to start a religion?


That depends on what kind of religion you want to start. What kind of texts, rituals, icons, etc. do you want it to have? Claiming to be a God or Enlightened One usually doesn't hurt to spread your message.
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Postby Endem » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:25 pm

Suriyanakhon wrote:
Endem wrote:By the way, what is a good way to start a religion?


That depends on what kind of religion you want to start. What kind of texts, rituals, icons, etc. do you want it to have? Claiming to be a God or Enlightened One usually doesn't hurt to spread your message.

Hmm, like a blend between all the Abrahamic Faiths and religion from the book Dune, but I'm mostly wondering how would a character go about the idea of makingg a religion, as in, how would such an idea even emerge, you know, we don't usually think aboutt makingg a religion
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Postby UniversalCommons » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:26 pm

1) Collect a variety of different sayings and wisdom tales and claim them as your own.

2) Perform miracles using sleight of hand and science.

3) Cure the sick using a variety of herbs and modern ideas about health.

4) Identify and encourage a group of fanatically loyal followers.

5) Create a code for living.

6) Identify things that are forbidden sex on Saturday, goat meat, fried insects, red paper lanterns and come up with irrational but convincing reasons for what is forbidden.

7) Entice people with alcohol and other substances, gather a group of exceptionally handsome and beautiful young people.

8) Be prepared to go among the sick and weak and pull out the people who had bad fortune and turn their fortune around. These people become loyal and violent followers.

9) Create holy warriors convinced their death will bring them glory.

10) Perfom exotic rituals with live snakes and other creatures. This should include sacrificing goats, rams, cattle and other animals so that your followers can have feasts, or if you are vegetarian, collection of the first fruits and veggies.

11) Try and convince people that they will reach a higher state of being, enlightenment, access to the 45 virgins, perfect beauty, inner peace, fervent happiness, true valor, etc. through meditation and prayer.

12) Create a set of bizarre martial exercises that have them posing as birds, horses, donkeys, flute players, bulldogs, maidens, unicorns, and other things.

13) Create a strange chant and set of prayers that makes you feel good. Repetition of several words in the same pattern makes many people feel good. Yum! Oh! Yam! Oh! Yum!

14) Make sure there are hymns and chants about your glory.
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Postby Endem » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:30 pm

UniversalCommons wrote:1) Collect a variety of different sayings and wisdom tales and claim them as your own.

2) Perform miracles using sleight of hand and science.

3) Cure the sick using a variety of herbs and modern ideas about health.

4) Identify and encourage a group of fanatically loyal followers.

5) Create a code for living.

6) Identify things that are forbidden sex on Saturday, goat meat, fried insects, red paper lanterns and come up with irrational but convincing reasons for what is forbidden.

7) Entice people with alcohol and other substances, gather a group of exceptionally handsome and beautiful young people.

8) Be prepared to go among the sick and weak and pull out the people who had bad fortune and turn their fortune around. These people become loyal and violent followers.

9) Create holy warriors convinced their death will bring them glory.

10) Perfom exotic rituals with live snakes and other creatures.

11) Try and convince people that they will reach a higher state of being, enlightenment, access to the 45 virgins, perfect beauty, inner peace, fervent happiness, true valor, etc. through meditation and prayer.

12) Create a set of bizarre martial exercises that have them posing as birds, horses, donkeys, flute players, bulldogs, maidens, unicorns, and other things.

13) Create a strange chant and set of prayers that makes you feel good. Repetition of several words in the same pattern makes many people feel good. Yum! Oh! Yam! Oh! Yum!

14) Make sure there are hymns and chants about your glory.


It sounds like you're describing a parody of religion and it's great, I'm gonna probably do that, or some of that.
I wonder how would a character even get an idea of creating a religion into their head
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Postby Saxony-Brandenburg » Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:07 pm

Endem wrote:
Suriyanakhon wrote:
That depends on what kind of religion you want to start. What kind of texts, rituals, icons, etc. do you want it to have? Claiming to be a God or Enlightened One usually doesn't hurt to spread your message.

Hmm, like a blend between all the Abrahamic Faiths and religion from the book Dune, but I'm mostly wondering how would a character go about the idea of makingg a religion, as in, how would such an idea even emerge, you know, we don't usually think aboutt makingg a religion


One of the biggest thing in an anthropological sense to do is to have your people experience what are known as Credibility Enhancing Displays, or CREDs. Shared community experiences which reinforce belief among the population. Although it may be strange to think about, religion in this sense isn't just a belief system - its a series of rituals promoting a particular social behavior and emotion.

Here's two good Religion For Breakfast videos on CREDs:
https://youtu.be/Tj9uTOer4C4
https://youtu.be/BgGjnHmvaVM

And here's a good visual:
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Postby Ralnis » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:48 am

I heard someone's trying to take my Levant! I swear I might be recovering now! But I will smack them with money!
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Postby Revlona » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:49 am

I'll try to post sometime soon
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Postby Suriyanakhon » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:50 am

Ralnis wrote:I heard someone's trying to take my Levant! I swear I might be recovering now! But I will smack them with money!


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Postby Revlona » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:51 am

Endem wrote:By the way, what is a good way to start a religion?

Be immortal
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Postby Orostan » Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:42 am

my character has kids now and I have decided to take the RP to the other china players by drafting one of them and invading the other.

I won't get to Liangzhu for a little while unfortunately though.
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Postby Endem » Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:01 am

Would any of you happen to produce gunpowder or ingredients of it?
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:17 am

Endem wrote:Would any of you happen to produce gunpowder or ingredients of it?


Hmm, yes. Nobody too near you, but the Kraken in Cyprus were manufacturing some low-combustion blackpowder.
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Postby Endem » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:21 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Endem wrote:Would any of you happen to produce gunpowder or ingredients of it?


Hmm, yes. Nobody too near you, but the Kraken in Cyprus were manufacturing some low-combustion blackpowder.

I wonder if Nestos managed to grab the technology
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:07 am

Endem wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Hmm, yes. Nobody too near you, but the Kraken in Cyprus were manufacturing some low-combustion blackpowder.

I wonder if Nestos managed to grab the technology


Hard to say. They were just beginning the process of making precursors when the League showed up and they had a war.
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Postby UniversalCommons » Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:13 am

If I remember correctly, the Kraken were on the way to develop gunpowder which will make them incredibly hard to dislodge. They were discussing barrel bombs and balangay boats. If you read about the Filipino pirates, they carried long spears, bows, shields, and heavy iron swords and were very fierce. There was a some discussion about guns, but to simplify things, I would imagine them having firelances to go with the barrel bombs. Combine this with fanaticism and you have a wonderful situation.

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Postby Endem » Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:23 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Endem wrote:I wonder if Nestos managed to grab the technology


Hard to say. They were just beginning the process of making precursors when the League showed up and they had a war.

I hope the League picked up the technology to make it because I'd have a sweet deal for them once I develop a country
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Postby UniversalCommons » Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:07 am

We haven't picked up the technology. In order to get any of it, we would have to fight them. I'd think at this point, they would be raiding for slaves and sacrifices. I am working on a post where they raid Crete... Death, terror, and destruction.

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Postby Endem » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:22 pm

UniversalCommons wrote:We haven't picked up the technology. In order to get any of it, we would have to fight them. I'd think at this point, they would be raiding for slaves and sacrifices. I am working on a post where they raid Crete... Death, terror, and destruction.

I suggest you pick it up, since as soon as I get to lead an inkling of a nation am going to be trying to create some rudimentary guns ( hand cannons and fire lances ) and would pay a lot, from unlimited access to my borders and knowledge to more... Material goods for the technology of creating charcoal, sulfur and saltpeter
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Postby Ralnis » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:05 pm

Endem wrote:
UniversalCommons wrote:We haven't picked up the technology. In order to get any of it, we would have to fight them. I'd think at this point, they would be raiding for slaves and sacrifices. I am working on a post where they raid Crete... Death, terror, and destruction.

I suggest you pick it up, since as soon as I get to lead an inkling of a nation am going to be trying to create some rudimentary guns ( hand cannons and fire lances ) and would pay a lot, from unlimited access to my borders and knowledge to more... Material goods for the technology of creating charcoal, sulfur and saltpeter

Did I hear some hostile cultists making gunpowder on the borders of the Empire?
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:54 pm

Ralnis wrote:
Endem wrote:I suggest you pick it up, since as soon as I get to lead an inkling of a nation am going to be trying to create some rudimentary guns ( hand cannons and fire lances ) and would pay a lot, from unlimited access to my borders and knowledge to more... Material goods for the technology of creating charcoal, sulfur and saltpeter

Did I hear some hostile cultists making gunpowder on the borders of the Empire?


Don’t forget the co-write :P
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Postby New Arcadius » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:29 pm

I've been waiting for the cowrite for almost a few weeks now.

When we doing it, eh?
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:21 pm

New Arcadius wrote:I've been waiting for the cowrite for almost a few weeks now.

When we doing it, eh?


You're waiting on a cowrite? I was talking about a thing Saxony and I are doing, which Ralnis may or may not also be involved in.
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Postby Ralnis » Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:11 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
New Arcadius wrote:I've been waiting for the cowrite for almost a few weeks now.

When we doing it, eh?


You're waiting on a cowrite? I was talking about a thing Saxony and I are doing, which Ralnis may or may not also be involved in.

I'm stuck with work so I should have something up tonight. Should is the key word here. If not tomorrow.
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Postby Alaroma » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:57 pm

Okay I’m alive, coping with teenage angst, and ready to write. I’ve got some stuff in the works. What I miss?
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