New Civilizations III ( OOC, Always Open )

[Ralnis]

They still do have nothing if they're going to be heavily discriminated and are being punished for something that is the fault of the government when it comes to the whole Bandit Wars.

The government didn't do anything wrong, and for the next few years it will be very difficult to revolt when they're essentially confined to towns where the only people with weapons are the Chinese.

Good joke on that part. Also this will make an excellent case for the black market to thrive going south and north through the eastern provinces.

[Orostan]

The government didn't do anything wrong, and for the next few years it will be very difficult to revolt when they're essentially confined to towns where the only people with weapons are the Chinese.

Good joke on that part. Also this will make an excellent case for the black market to thrive going south and north through the eastern provinces.

bruh i'm not the one who did the war crimes first.

[Saxony-Brandenburg]

The government didn't do anything wrong

Ok

[Endem]

The government didn't do anything wrong.

There is no war in Ba Sing Se.

[Joohan]

sorry, phone broke and have been home on leave for the last couple days.

[Orostan]

The government didn't do anything wrong.

There is no war in Ba Sing Se.

there are no bandits in china

[Saxony-Brandenburg]

Awfully quiet around here…

[Cainesland]

Awfully quiet around here…

Indeed

[Endem]

Awfully quiet around here…

Can't write a post, all my time for writing is spent on the book.

[Ralnis]

Awfully quiet around here…

Preparing for a major offensive against the Chinese by killing the governor of Pan Province and the leadership of the MPS to cause more chaos.

[Saxony-Brandenburg]

Awfully quiet around here…

Preparing for a major offensive against the Chinese by killing the governor of Pan Province and the leadership of the MPS to cause more chaos.

oooH! i cant wait to see how that pans out

[Ralnis]

Preparing for a major offensive against the Chinese by killing the governor of Pan Province and the leadership of the MPS to cause more chaos.

oooH! i cant wait to see how that pans out

Even better, with Pan Province having food shortages and bandits running around. It's time for the Huli Jing to start evolving into the Wan Chien. It's time to start putting myself into action and begin the Shadow Wars.

[Suriyanakhon]

oooH! i cant wait to see how that pans out

Even better, with Pan Province having food shortages and bandits running around. It's time for the Huli Jing to start evolving into the Wan Chien. It's time to start putting myself into action and begin the Shadow Wars.

You could say that Pan Province has a Pan shortage.

[Orostan]

Awfully quiet around here…

Preparing for a major offensive against the Chinese by killing the governor of Pan Province and the leadership of the MPS to cause more chaos.

You have posted cringe! I am dispatching a legion to depopulate your countryside!

Even better, with Pan Province having food shortages and bandits running around. It's time for the Huli Jing to start evolving into the Wan Chien. It's time to start putting myself into action and begin the Shadow Wars.

You could say that Pan Province has a Pan shortage.

under bronze age socialism such puns are punishable by death

[Orostan]

Preparing for a major offensive against the Chinese by killing the governor of Pan Province and the leadership of the MPS to cause more chaos.

oooH! i cant wait to see how that pans out

"The report I sent to the central government lists me, my men, the logistics officer here, but only one of you."

*gestures with sword*

*soldier takes one of the blindfolded prisoner and prepares to push him off a cliff*

"First one to talk gets to stay with my army. Who paid you, and where is the king in rags?"

*silence punctuated by a soldier stabbing a slab of meat and then throwing it off the cliff to mimic killing the prisoner*

*soldier takes away prisoner while keeping him quiet*

"He didn't fly so good! Who wants to try next? Tell me about the king! Why does he wear the fox mask? Lotta loyalty for a hired bandit!"

"Or perhaps he's wondering why someone would stab a man before throwing him off a mountain."

[Ralnis]

oooH! i cant wait to see how that pans out

"The report I sent to the central government lists me, my men, the logistics officer here, but only one of you."

*gestures with sword*

*soldier takes one of the blindfolded prisoner and prepares to push him off a cliff*

"First one to talk gets to stay with my army. Who paid you, and where is the king in rags?"

*silence punctuated by a soldier stabbing a slab of meat and then throwing it off the cliff to mimic killing the prisoner*

*soldier takes away prisoner while keeping him quiet*

"He didn't fly so good! Who wants to try next? Tell me about the king! Why does he wear the fox mask? Lotta loyalty for a hired bandit!"

"Or perhaps he's wondering why someone would stab a man before throwing him off a mountain."

Later on at a hide out in Gusu

"And he purged the entire squad?"

The same soldier who was holding the prisoner was in his civilian clothes as he bows to a woman in fox mask

"Yes My Lady, it seemed that the Emperor is privy to His Majesty's operations in Tan Province. He also is starting to understand the growth of the Wan Chien in Pan and Pu."

"It took them ten years but no matter, we already have our prepared for this and made preparations. His Majesty, my father, will not be defeated by a man blinded by his own ambitions. The Third Bandit King will not be dissuaded by the likes of the Pale Emperor and his False Dream!"

[G-Tech Corporation]

"The report I sent to the central government lists me, my men, the logistics officer here, but only one of you."

*gestures with sword*

*soldier takes one of the blindfolded prisoner and prepares to push him off a cliff*

"First one to talk gets to stay with my army. Who paid you, and where is the king in rags?"

*silence punctuated by a soldier stabbing a slab of meat and then throwing it off the cliff to mimic killing the prisoner*

*soldier takes away prisoner while keeping him quiet*

"He didn't fly so good! Who wants to try next? Tell me about the king! Why does he wear the fox mask? Lotta loyalty for a hired bandit!"

"Or perhaps he's wondering why someone would stab a man before throwing him off a mountain."

Later on at a hide out in Gusu

"And he purged the entire squad?"

The same soldier who was holding the prisoner was in his civilian clothes as he bows to a woman in fox mask

"Yes My Lady, it seemed that the Emperor is privy to His Majesty's operations in Tan Province. He also is starting to understand the growth of the Wan Chien in Pan and Pu."

"It took them ten years but no matter, we already have our prepared for this and made preparations. His Majesty, my father, will not be defeated by a man blinded by his own ambitions. The Third Bandit King will not be dissuaded by the likes of the Pale Emperor and his False Dream!"

something something the fire rises something something

[Arlye Austros]

Will post tonight after classes. Should be able to wrap up the conflict in the Celtiberian Coast, timeskip to the current general date and establish contact with the Occitan trade posts.

[G-Tech Corporation]

@ Orostan: Still waiting on feedback from Joohan on your jazz. I'd hold off on posting more about the bandit wars for now, since you and he aren't seeing eye to eye on outcomes.

@ All: Likely going to put together a new OOC soon, for the new timeskip.

[Orostan]

@ Orostan: Still waiting on feedback from Joohan on your jazz. I'd hold off on posting more about the bandit wars for now, since you and he aren't seeing eye to eye on outcomes.

@ All: Likely going to put together a new OOC soon, for the new timeskip.

>give china most devastating civil war in history
>expect nothing to change

Every event I have been given has been a major turning point for China's political and social system - why is this one any different? What does Joohan expect from the bandit wars, and what do you expect?

[Endem]

@ Orostan: Still waiting on feedback from Joohan on your jazz. I'd hold off on posting more about the bandit wars for now, since you and he aren't seeing eye to eye on outcomes.

@ All: Likely going to put together a new OOC soon, for the new timeskip.

>give china most devastating civil war in history
>expect nothing to change

Every event I have been given has been a major turning point for China's political and social system - why is this one any different? What does Joohan expect from the bandit wars, and what do you expect?

I think it's more about how you are writing the conflict happening, i.e making it be decided by one giant battle instead of the bandits pestering your armies with guerilla tactics and the battles being a series of small skirmishes characteristic to these types of wars.

The best I can describe it, your country is Syria in 2010, you are fighting a bunch of group that are also fighting each other, they won't unite, neither will they try to take on your forces in a fair 1v1 grand battle.

[Orostan]

>give china most devastating civil war in history
>expect nothing to change

Every event I have been given has been a major turning point for China's political and social system - why is this one any different? What does Joohan expect from the bandit wars, and what do you expect?

I think it's more about how you are writing the conflict happening, i.e making it be decided by one giant battle instead of the bandits pestering your armies with guerilla tactics and the battles being a series of small skirmishes characteristic to these types of wars.

The best I can describe it, your country is Syria in 2010, you are fighting a bunch of group that are also fighting each other, they won't unite, neither will they try to take on your forces in a fair 1v1 grand battle.

One big battle would have to be how it was - if it wasn't I would always locally outnumber the bandits. I think it would be much more difficult for a force that's going to be less mobile and less organized than mine to fight a guerilla war effectively - they have no cavalry and even if I only use mine for scouting I have a massive advantage.

A large number of the bandits hate each other - but the point of the war is that they hate me more. I wrote about how infighting would affect them in great detail.

I believe the problem they have is with the telegram I recently suggested where I outlined what I thought the outcome of the war would be. From the start of the war to the end of fighting inside China five years from now I said that there should be 100,000 casualties split between both sides. For perspective a loss of 50,000 people is a third of the population that I actually control. A further 100,000 people would flee China in all directions and I would be left with 100,000 Chinese citizens and 400,000 captured bandits I now have to make productive parts of the economy.

If Joohan wants to give me an event that transforms society and wrecks most of what I've been trying to do I will have it do exactly that. The last event contributed to extremely extensive political and military reforms and this one is going to turn China from a soft-dictatorship of the cities into a very clear dictatorship of the cities for at least a few years. Aaron is going to find himself increasingly marginalized in the state he created as the economic interests of the cities he built diverges largely as a result of the war from the interest of the entire country. His attempts to gradually grant citizenship to former bandit tribes will be fought by the Chinese city people that recognize giving those people a say in distributing resources will divert some resources from them. If they don't fight for their own benefit at the expense of others, the former bandits who now have a stake in Chinese society certainly will. Every brick not put down in a city is a brick put down in some former bandit town, and every spot in a school given to a bandit is one not given to a city person.

[Endem]

I think it's more about how you are writing the conflict happening, i.e making it be decided by one giant battle instead of the bandits pestering your armies with guerilla tactics and the battles being a series of small skirmishes characteristic to these types of wars.

The best I can describe it, your country is Syria in 2010, you are fighting a bunch of group that are also fighting each other, they won't unite, neither will they try to take on your forces in a fair 1v1 grand battle.

One big battle would have to be how it was - if it wasn't I would always locally outnumber the bandits. I think it would be much more difficult for a force that's going to be less mobile and less organized than mine to fight a guerilla war effectively - they have no cavalry and even if I only use mine for scouting I have a massive advantage.

A large number of the bandits hate each other - but the point of the war is that they hate me more. I wrote about how infighting would affect them in great detail.

I believe the problem they have is with the telegram I recently suggested where I outlined what I thought the outcome of the war would be. From the start of the war to the end of fighting inside China five years from now I said that there should be 100,000 casualties split between both sides. For perspective a loss of 50,000 people is a third of the population that I actually control. A further 100,000 people would flee China in all directions and I would be left with 100,000 Chinese citizens and 400,000 captured bandits I now have to make productive parts of the economy.

If Joohan wants to give me an event that transforms society and wrecks most of what I've been trying to do I will have it do exactly that. The last event contributed to extremely extensive political and military reforms and this one is going to turn China from a soft-dictatorship of the cities into a very clear dictatorship of the cities for at least a few years. Aaron is going to find himself increasingly marginalized in the state he created as the economic interests of the cities he built diverges largely as a result of the war from the interest of the entire country. His attempts to gradually grant citizenship to former bandit tribes will be fought by the Chinese city people that recognize giving those people a say in distributing resources will divert some resources from them. If they don't fight for their own benefit at the expense of others, the former bandits who now have a stake in Chinese society certainly will. Every brick not put down in a city is a brick put down in some former bandit town, and every spot in a school given to a bandit is one not given to a city person.

I mean, you don't need to have cavalry to be mobile, and by size of forces alone, the individual gangs of bandits would be more mobile. Also, you seem to be confusing guerilla tactics with hit-and-run, they're similar and overlap, but one key difference is hit-and-run mobility is needed greatly while in guerilla you need to use the terrain to your advantage.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Just dropped the new OOC for the new Era boiks, feel free to head on over - and don't forget to copy your Author profiles/update said profiles to let us know you're still active!

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[Joohan]

oooooh my goh - I just got a new phone and back from my leave. Did not intend to be off that long. What' happened since I was back?