New Civilizations III ( OOC, Always Open )

[Ralnis]

The entire planet is under it's carrying capacity

That’s true. We should encourage the martians to migrate to earth.

Or focus on agriculture and healthcare instead of industry?

[Orostan]

That’s true. We should encourage the martians to migrate to earth.

Or focus on agriculture and healthcare instead of industry?

You do understand that all of this “civilization” garbage is a way to get to building trains, right? There is literally no other reason to do agriculture than to eventually create the conditions for rail transport.

[Ralnis]

Or focus on agriculture and healthcare instead of industry?

You do understand that all of this “civilization” garbage is a way to get to building trains, right? There is literally no other reason to do agriculture than to eventually create the conditions for rail transport.

Wow no wonder why you have active rebellions and the rest of the region actually hates you.

[Orostan]

You do understand that all of this “civilization” garbage is a way to get to building trains, right? There is literally no other reason to do agriculture than to eventually create the conditions for rail transport.

Wow no wonder why you have active rebellions and the rest of the region actually hates you.

well, the rebels aren't as much a problem as they were before and the rest of the region only hates me because I'm BIG.

[Orostan]

Amazing post Joohan and Ralnis!

[Ralnis]

Amazing post Joohan and Ralnis!

My part was shit, Joohan stole the show and carry my bad story.

[Orostan]

Amazing post Joohan and Ralnis!

My part was shit, Joohan stole the show and carry my bad story.

It was a great post including your parts - I am looking forward to dealing with Luther and Issac!

If Luther chooses to tell Aaron about Issac in Tibet it will start at least one major military/diplomatic campaign aimed only at reaching Issac. Any knowledge that accelerates the development of China is going to be worth a lot.

[Ralnis]

Wow no wonder why you have active rebellions and the rest of the region actually hates you.

well, the rebels aren't as much a problem as they were before and the rest of the region only hates me because I'm BIG.

Or that you slaughtered your way through Asia in six years? Ripping up homes and villages by the sword?

[Orostan]

well, the rebels aren't as much a problem as they were before and the rest of the region only hates me because I'm BIG.

Or that you slaughtered your way through Asia in six years? Ripping up homes and villages by the sword?

I did a lot less of that than you would think. Most Chinese expansion was not done by force and was more like a gradual assimilation of territory and communities. There have been parts of the country (the north) where a lot of villages and tribes have been ripped up but at this point that was a few years ago. An enormous amount has changed.

[Joohan]

*Goes from just a random dude to occupying nearly a quarter of modern day china in less than two decades

Most Chinese expansion was not done by force and was more like a gradual assimilation of territory and communities.

* doubt

[Orostan]

*Goes from just a random dude to occupying nearly a quarter of modern day china in less than two decades

Most Chinese expansion was not done by force and was more like a gradual assimilation of territory and communities.

* doubt

There haven't been many organized groups capable of fighting China if they wanted. The first thing they'd have seen of China is obviously an army that they couldn't beat, but the next thing they would see were iron tools brought in to give them an economic reason to join China.

[Ralnis]

*Goes from just a random dude to occupying nearly a quarter of modern day china in less than two decades



* doubt

There haven't been many organized groups capable of fighting China if they wanted. The first thing they'd have seen of China is obviously an army that they couldn't beat, but the next thing they would see were iron tools brought in to give them an economic reason to join China.

So army first, then shinnies? Ok, methinks the iron tools weren't that effective but the iron halberds on the other hand. Yeah, I can see the iron tools working out.

[Orostan]

There haven't been many organized groups capable of fighting China if they wanted. The first thing they'd have seen of China is obviously an army that they couldn't beat, but the next thing they would see were iron tools brought in to give them an economic reason to join China.

So army first, then shinnies? Ok, methinks the iron tools weren't that effective but the iron halberds on the other hand. Yeah, I can see the iron tools working out.

China's sticks are as plentiful as her carrots.

[Ralnis]

So army first, then shinnies? Ok, methinks the iron tools weren't that effective but the iron halberds on the other hand. Yeah, I can see the iron tools working out.

China's sticks are as plentiful as her carrots.

I can't wait for a bunch of Chinese folk join Dong Wang when he provides a better way of getting what they want by just listing in on some conversation or transporting stolen goods outside of China.

[Orostan]

China's sticks are as plentiful as her carrots.

I can't wait for a bunch of Chinese folk join Dong Wang when he provides a better way of getting what they want by just listing in on some conversation or transporting stolen goods outside of China.

I can't wait to use smuggling as an excuse to invade my neighbors and establish Republics there.

What do you think about a "Great Western Republic" on the Caspian coast in twenty or so years?

[Ralnis]

I can't wait for a bunch of Chinese folk join Dong Wang when he provides a better way of getting what they want by just listing in on some conversation or transporting stolen goods outside of China.

I can't wait to use smuggling as an excuse to invade my neighbors and establish Republics there.

What do you think about a "Great Western Republic" on the Caspian coast in twenty or so years?

Laughs as Chinese army is beaten back by superior weapons, training, and information leaking of their military movements.

[Joohan]

*Goes from just a random dude to occupying nearly a quarter of modern day china in less than two decades



* doubt

There haven't been many organized groups capable of fighting China if they wanted. The first thing they'd have seen of China is obviously an army that they couldn't beat, but the next thing they would see were iron tools brought in to give them an economic reason to join China.

which is why all the native american tribes immediately kowtowed when European colonizers showed up on their lands, of course

[Orostan]

I can't wait to use smuggling as an excuse to invade my neighbors and establish Republics there.

What do you think about a "Great Western Republic" on the Caspian coast in twenty or so years?

Laughs as Chinese army is beaten back by superior weapons, training, and information leaking of their military movements.

My next post involves a very large reorganization of the Chinese central government army, and iron quality in general is always increasing. I doubt you'll have superior equipment or training. The best way to beat a Chinese army is to Teutoburg forest them, not fight them in open battle.

There haven't been many organized groups capable of fighting China if they wanted. The first thing they'd have seen of China is obviously an army that they couldn't beat, but the next thing they would see were iron tools brought in to give them an economic reason to join China.

which is why all the native american tribes immediately kowtowed when European colonizers showed up on their lands, of course

Well, the European colonizers weren't able to field larger military forces at least not initially. The situation is quite a bit different than american colonization anyways.

When I get to modern day Xinjiang I will make sure to write about indians local tribes doing funny stuff. I don't think the idea of mongolian train robbers has been explored in this RP but it should be.

[Ralnis]

Laughs as Chinese army is beaten back by superior weapons, training, and information leaking of their military movements.

My next post involves a very large reorganization of the Chinese central government army, and iron quality in general is always increasing. I doubt you'll have superior equipment or training. The best way to beat a Chinese army is to Teutoburg forest them, not fight them in open battle.

For Luther, he's more than a match for a Chinese soldier currently. Equipment no, but they can change, he does have a steel sword of some quality . Plus, if you haven't realize, Luther won't be fighting like any normal enemy would. Which will be fun for both of us as he grows in power. Especially in Luoyang and other major cities.

[Joohan]

Well, the European colonizers weren't able to field larger military forces at least not initially. The situation is quite a bit different than american colonization anyways.

When I get to modern day Xinjiang I will make sure to write about indians local tribes doing funny stuff. I don't think the idea of mongolian train robbers has been explored in this RP but it should be.

By the middle of the 18th century, European empires were fielding armies in the thousands all over the continent, what are you talking about?

[Orostan]

My next post involves a very large reorganization of the Chinese central government army, and iron quality in general is always increasing. I doubt you'll have superior equipment or training. The best way to beat a Chinese army is to Teutoburg forest them, not fight them in open battle.

For Luther, he's more than a match for a Chinese soldier currently. Equipment no, but they can change. Plus, if you haven't realize, Luther won't be fighting like any normal enemy would. Which will be fun for both of us as he grows in power. Especially in Luoyang and other major cities.

Maybe you can turn Korea into my version of Vietnam if I ever get to it.

[Orostan]

Well, the European colonizers weren't able to field larger military forces at least not initially. The situation is quite a bit different than american colonization anyways.

When I get to modern day Xinjiang I will make sure to write about indians local tribes doing funny stuff. I don't think the idea of mongolian train robbers has been explored in this RP but it should be.

By the middle of the 18th century, European empires were fielding armies in the thousands all over the continent, what are you talking about?

I thought you were talking about very early 1500s colonization, not 1750s colonization.

[Ralnis]

For Luther, he's more than a match for a Chinese soldier currently. Equipment no, but they can change. Plus, if you haven't realize, Luther won't be fighting like any normal enemy would. Which will be fun for both of us as he grows in power. Especially in Luoyang and other major cities.

Maybe you can turn Korea into my version of Vietnam if I ever get to it.

Korea, Myanmar, Hajima, parts of China. Maybe some cities.

[Orostan]

Maybe you can turn Korea into my version of Vietnam if I ever get to it.

Korea, Myanmar, Hajima, parts of China. Maybe some cities.

I don't want to invade Hanajima, Japan is a 90% mountain series of islands with no important natural resources I couldn't get somewhere else easier. Myanmar and Korea as well as parts of southern China will absolutely be bad places for a Chinese army that likes to fight on the plains but I have a few ideas for how to mitigate that.

[Ralnis]

Korea, Myanmar, Hajima, parts of China. Maybe some cities.

I don't want to invade Hanajima, Japan is a 90% mountain series of islands with no important natural resources I couldn't get somewhere else easier. Myanmar and Korea as well as parts of southern China will absolutely be bad places for a Chinese army that likes to fight on the plains but I have a few ideas for how to mitigate that.

Like what?