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Postby Joohan » Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:08 pm

Anyhow, gonna do Holly's event, then Bort's - then my next post ( or Fossia's event, whichever comes first )
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Postby Bortslovakia » Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:13 pm

Suriyanakhon wrote:
Joohan wrote:
Hey shepherd, I think I just found your Uff


Legit the main reason I haven't tried to get my significant other to join Civilizations is because I'm terrified of all the stories she could tell y'all about my speaking gaffes. :lol2:

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Postby Ralnis » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:22 pm

You know I keep getting Luther Holly and the Holly person mixed up.
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Postby Suriyanakhon » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:28 pm

Joohan wrote:
Suriyanakhon wrote:
Legit the main reason I haven't tried to get my significant other to join Civilizations is because I'm terrified of all the stories she could tell y'all about my speaking gaffes. :lol2:


Babe you gotta try it, it's got everything:

Cults, orgies, genocide, Genocidal orgy cults, copyright infringement - you'd love it!


Tfw Victor thinks he's safe from Game Workshop's lawyers.
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Postby Bortslovakia » Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:34 am

Suriyanakhon wrote:
Joohan wrote:
Babe you gotta try it, it's got everything:

Cults, orgies, genocide, Genocidal orgy cults, copyright infringement - you'd love it!


Tfw Victor thinks he's safe from Game Workshop's lawyers.

In the Darkgrim Grimdarkness of the far past-future, there is only copyright strikes.

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Postby Shepherd isle » Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:44 am

srry about uff... i meant stuff lol

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:55 am

Bortslovakia wrote:
Suriyanakhon wrote:
Tfw Victor thinks he's safe from Game Workshop's lawyers.

In the Darkgrim Grimdarkness of the far past-future, there is only copyright strikes.


To be a man in such times is to be one amongst scant millions. It is to live in the Germanest and most anachronistic regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Embrace the power of technology and science, for so much has been given, with no need to be re-learned. Embrace the promise of progress and understanding, for in the noble bright past there is only peace. There is no war across the Imperium, only an eternity of prosperity and harmony, and the benevolence of the one true God.
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Postby Shepherd isle » Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:15 am

G-Tech- was exactly is the imperium- what is it based of and what are its values
because from the posts in the ic, it was interested in the british isles.... shouldnt that be icedonas sphere?

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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:16 am

Shepherd isle wrote:G-Tech- was exactly is the imperium- what is it based of and what are its values
because from the posts in the ic, it was interested in the british isles.... shouldnt that be icedonas sphere?

The Imperium has the occasional tendency to ignore other civilisations' spheres of influence. :p
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Postby Shepherd isle » Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:22 am

Hmmm I see... But what has icedona done to anger the imperium of man?

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:33 am

Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:
Shepherd isle wrote:G-Tech- was exactly is the imperium- what is it based of and what are its values
because from the posts in the ic, it was interested in the british isles.... shouldnt that be icedonas sphere?

The Imperium has the occasional tendency to ignore other civilisations' spheres of influence. :p


Are you even a diplomat if you aren’t a gunboat diplomat?
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Postby Suriyanakhon » Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:22 am

Shepherd isle wrote:G-Tech- was exactly is the imperium- what is it based of and what are its values


Never trust Germans, no matter what timeline...
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Postby Orostan » Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:24 am

Joohan wrote:
Suriyanakhon wrote:
Legit the main reason I haven't tried to get my significant other to join Civilizations is because I'm terrified of all the stories she could tell y'all about my speaking gaffes. :lol2:


Babe you gotta try it, it's got everything:

Cults, orgies, genocide, Genocidal orgy cults, copyright infringement - you'd love it!

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Postby Suriyanakhon » Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:26 am

Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:
Shepherd isle wrote:G-Tech- was exactly is the imperium- what is it based of and what are its values
because from the posts in the ic, it was interested in the british isles.... shouldnt that be icedonas sphere?

The Imperium has the occasional tendency to ignore other civilisations' spheres of influence. :p


That's another reason I don't invite her.

As a Polish citizen, she'd probably blow a gasket if she saw G-Tech's weird German empire in Krakow.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:30 am

Suriyanakhon wrote:
Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:The Imperium has the occasional tendency to ignore other civilisations' spheres of influence. :p


That's another reason I don't invite her.

As a Polish citizen, she'd probably blow a gasket if she saw G-Tech's weird German empire in Krakow.


Tbf we -did- have an Author drop in Krakow, intending to create a civilization to resist Moravian expansionism. They just, well, never posted after the drop.
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Postby Shepherd isle » Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:30 am

Time to go bushcamp Im the Americas and go... We have always been at war with the imperium
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Postby Suriyanakhon » Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:33 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Suriyanakhon wrote:
That's another reason I don't invite her.

As a Polish citizen, she'd probably blow a gasket if she saw G-Tech's weird German empire in Krakow.


Tbf we -did- have an Author drop in Krakow, intending to create a civilization to resist Moravian expansionism. They just, well, never posted after the drop.


F.

Would have been a story worthy of Pan Tadeusz.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:37 am

Shepherd isle wrote:G-Tech- was exactly is the imperium- what is it based of and what are its values
because from the posts in the ic, it was interested in the british isles.... shouldnt that be icedonas sphere?


Hm, let us see.

The Imperium is roughly based on the Imperium of Dune, the Holy Roman Empire, the Imperium of Man from 40k, the Hanseatic League, a dash of Imperial Germany, and probably several other influences I've forgotten. In terms of values she is a meritocratic humanistic monarchy, which values industry, innovation, the creation of wealth, the dignity of men, and military preparedness. Though again, not a complete list.

The Imperium's involvement in the British Isles is a long story. It probably traces back primarily to trade links to the people of upper England established out of the northern German maritime routes along the Elbe and North Sea Coast. Those trade links and social exchanges led to tentative alliances with the people groups of Boston-Newark-Sheffield-Hull, which functionally ended up in the way of Icedonian military expansion into northern England and Scotland. A war ensued, which, combined with reports of Icedonia's unique approach to cultural unification, led to quite a degree of antipathy towards the Andonian state.
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Postby Shepherd isle » Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:42 am

I see,that is a very interesting set of ideas indeed
I guess cultural expansion equates to some form of genocide or other i guess?
All in all in the wiki I should probably look up the imperium

And technically theoretically a state in Poland could
still arise right? Just that it would have to arrise in one of the halfs. If all else fails,brand the imperim as Czech lol

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Postby UniversalCommons » Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:44 am

It is the official end of the ban on toys and frivolous inventions. Alcibiades will form the new Toymakers Association of Oak. He will bring out his pull toy and insist that all the Councilors of Oak wear paper hats in honor of the new Toymakers Association. Some strange automata will appear like a coin operated holy water dispenser in the Temple of the Body Parts.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:02 am

Shepherd isle wrote:I see,that is a very interesting set of ideas indeed
I guess cultural expansion equates to some form of genocide or other i guess?
All in all in the wiki I should probably look up the imperium

And technically theoretically a state in Poland could
still arise right? Just that it would have to arrise in one of the halfs. If all else fails,brand the imperim as Czech lol


Yeah, lots of genocide, sex slavery, all that good stuff.

Unfortunately the entry on the wiki is... dodgy.

Most of the eastern quarter of Poland is still Neolithic, though advancing, so certainly.
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Postby Kelmet » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:28 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Shepherd isle wrote:I see,that is a very interesting set of ideas indeed
I guess cultural expansion equates to some form of genocide or other i guess?
All in all in the wiki I should probably look up the imperium

And technically theoretically a state in Poland could
still arise right? Just that it would have to arrise in one of the halfs. If all else fails,brand the imperim as Czech lol


Yeah, lots of genocide, sex slavery, all that good stuff.

Unfortunately the entry on the wiki is... dodgy.

Most of the eastern quarter of Poland is still Neolithic, though advancing, so certainly.

"dodgy"

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Postby Bortslovakia » Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:13 pm

Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:
Shepherd isle wrote:G-Tech- was exactly is the imperium- what is it based of and what are its values
because from the posts in the ic, it was interested in the british isles.... shouldnt that be icedonas sphere?

The Imperium has the occasional tendency to ignore other civilisations' spheres of influence. :p

I mean, there's a reason why Hibernia's mostly been left alone despite me being gone for a year. Don't pull shit like, you know, slave raids and genocide, and the Imperium's fine with being your buddy!

That and invading Hibernia is a logistical nightmare. Almost everyone is well armed and trained, the Irish fleet makes resupply a massive headache in the best of circumstances, and the interior is so rural that it's nearly impossible to secure outside long term occupation. We're Switzerland, but we've also got the Atlantic as a moat. Well... we were until the whole stagnation thing, but that'll be fixed in short order!
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Hm, let us see.

The Imperium is roughly based on the Imperium of Dune, the Holy Roman Empire, the Imperium of Man from 40k, the Hanseatic League, a dash of Imperial Germany, and probably several other influences I've forgotten. In terms of values she is a meritocratic humanistic monarchy, which values industry, innovation, the creation of wealth, the dignity of men, and military preparedness. Though again, not a complete list.

The Imperium's involvement in the British Isles is a long story. It probably traces back primarily to trade links to the people of upper England established out of the northern German maritime routes along the Elbe and North Sea Coast. Those trade links and social exchanges led to tentative alliances with the people groups of Boston-Newark-Sheffield-Hull, which functionally ended up in the way of Icedonian military expansion into northern England and Scotland. A war ensued, which, combined with reports of Icedonia's unique approach to cultural unification, led to quite a degree of antipathy towards the Andonian state.

TL;DR for Shepherd's benefit(it's a VERY complex situation, so even this'll be long)
-Icedonia commits several crimes against humanity throughout its existence, including an active state policy of genocide.
-Hibernia begins the process of militarization in response.
-The Imperium makes contact with the Isles, forging diplomatic relations with local tribes outside Icedonia's grasp, unaware of the full situation in Britain.
-The Imperium and Hibernia establish formal diplomatic ties, with the latter providing a more complete picture of the situation in Britain.
-Relations chill between Hibernia and the Commonwealth over conflicting claims on the Atlantic Islands (Orkney, Shetland, etc). Hibernia begins dedicating most of its fleet to patrolling major trade lanes and preparing for a possible war with the Norse.
-Icedonia becomes aware of the Imperials just north of their border. The Imperium simultaneously begins construction of Fort Defiance, a brutal affair that costs many lives as construction is hurried through a particularly harsh winter. The locals, however, are united by their fear of Icedonia, and the protection the men of steel promise.
-The Imperium begins learning the full extent of Andonian atrocities. Icedonia musters its forces for a direct strike on Fort Defiance.
-Hibernian merchants bring back news of the developing situation. With most forces dedicated to more pressing concerns, Ireland is only able to watch the situation unfold. Halfhearted pleas to mediate the conflict are ignored.
-War breaks out between the Icedonians and Imperials. Despite having the definitive advantage in training, Icedonian forces find themselves unsuited to siege warfare, especially against an enemy with a significant technological edge. Tribes allied to the Imperials prove less lucky however, with at least one major settlement completely eradicated. High casualties are sustained on both sides.
-A small Imperial fleet is dispatched to resupply Fort Defiance. The nascent Icedonian fleet moves to intercept, but is outclassed by the more experienced Imperials. Fort Defiance receives relief.
-Fighting continues, but ultimately little headway is made. The Icedonians, having suffered severe casualties, withdraw. The Imperials are content with effectively a white peace, though in doing so they force Icedonia to recognize the allied tribes as a sovereign entity under Imperial protection.
-Hibernia, concerned by the Imperium's now solidified presence in Britain, begins making overtures towards Icedonia. The Icedonians, eager for an ally, reciprocate the gestures.
-The Dusk Accords are signed. Icedonia gives up its most extreme policies in exchange for Hibernian technology (second only to the Imperium, though it's still a somewhat distant second). Both powers agree to combat external influence, and work towards their mutual goals. Hibernia, notably, continues to promote amicable relations with the Imperium, supporting several joint ventures to acquire Breton tin. Icedonia, by contrast, takes a more bellicose stance, beginning to expand into the Netherlands and actively compete with Imperial and Norse interests in the region.
-I dip for a year, making Icedonia the primary influence on the alliance by virtue of actually having a player present.

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Postby Fossia » Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:18 pm

Bortslovakia wrote:-snip-

when the tl;dr is longer than the original

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Postby Bortslovakia » Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:38 pm

Fossia wrote:
Bortslovakia wrote:-snip-

when the tl;dr is longer than the original

Oh it wasn't a tl;dr of G. It was a tl;dr of the entire situation.

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