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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:43 am

New Arcadius wrote:Accidentally posted on NCII thread... frig


C’est la vie. I’m very interested to see this Siwan invasion.
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Postby Endem » Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:04 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
New Arcadius wrote:Accidentally posted on NCII thread... frig


C’est la vie. I’m very interested to see this Siwan invasion.

What happened?
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:49 am

Endem wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
C’est la vie. I’m very interested to see this Siwan invasion.

What happened?


Sun-braised desert nomads are plotting an invasion of the Old Kingdom of Egypt.
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Postby Fossia » Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:04 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Endem wrote:What happened?


Sun-braised desert nomads are plotting an invasion of the Old Kingdom of Egypt.

The Hyksos did it, maybe he can too

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Postby Endem » Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:11 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Endem wrote:What happened?


Sun-braised desert nomads are plotting an invasion of the Old Kingdom of Egypt.

Wait what? But I haven't established the- oh you mean the other ones
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:35 am

Fossia wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Sun-braised desert nomads are plotting an invasion of the Old Kingdom of Egypt.

The Hyksos did it, maybe he can too


Oh yes. But the Hyksos only ruled for two generations.
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Postby Saxony-Brandenburg » Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:16 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Fossia wrote:The Hyksos did it, maybe he can too


Oh yes. But the Hyksos only ruled for two generations.


very very true
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:18 am

Saxony-Brandenburg wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Oh yes. But the Hyksos only ruled for two generations.


very very true


Egypt has a long and storied history of losing wars, assimilating or out demographying the invaders, and native rule resumes, effectively. Kinda like China.
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Postby Saxony-Brandenburg » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:01 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Saxony-Brandenburg wrote:
very very true


Egypt has a long and storied history of losing wars, assimilating or out demographying the invaders, and native rule resumes, effectively. Kinda like China.


well- up until the arab conquest
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Postby UniversalCommons » Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:12 pm

Piye and Taharqua ruled Egypt and Nubia for 100 years. After they were done, the Egyptians attempted to remove them from the record, quite successfully for a while. The conquest occurred because Egypt became unstable and Nubia conquered them. Nubia had the best archers at the time.

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Postby Saxony-Brandenburg » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:16 pm

UniversalCommons wrote:Piye and Taharqua ruled Egypt and Nubia for 100 years. After they were done, the Egyptians attempted to remove them from the record, quite successfully for a while. The conquest occurred because Egypt became unstable and Nubia conquered them. Nubia had the best archers at the time.


Yeah. But a one hundred year reign if anything proves G's point that Egypt has a strange habit of assimilating and overcoming foreign rulers.
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Postby The Hierophancy » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:15 pm

Saxony-Brandenburg wrote:
UniversalCommons wrote:Piye and Taharqua ruled Egypt and Nubia for 100 years. After they were done, the Egyptians attempted to remove them from the record, quite successfully for a while. The conquest occurred because Egypt became unstable and Nubia conquered them. Nubia had the best archers at the time.


Yeah. But a one hundred year reign if anything proves G's point that Egypt has a strange habit of assimilating and overcoming foreign rulers.

No peoples can resist the cool double-crown

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Postby UniversalCommons » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:22 pm

The Hierophancy wrote:
Saxony-Brandenburg wrote:
Yeah. But a one hundred year reign if anything proves G's point that Egypt has a strange habit of assimilating and overcoming foreign rulers.

No peoples can resist the cool double-crown


It is not really assimilation though, Kush did not become part of Egypt. The Neo-Assyrians conquered the Egyptians and put in a puppet government.

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Postby Saxony-Brandenburg » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:26 pm

UniversalCommons wrote:
The Hierophancy wrote:No peoples can resist the cool double-crown


It is not really assimilation though, Kush did not become part of Egypt. The Neo-Assyrians conquered the Egyptians and put in a puppet government.


But who weathered in the end? Kush or Egypt? Thats the point. When the Assyrians left, Egyptians were the ones to continue ruling.

Either way this is pedantic. The point is, Siwans are going to have a difficult task. Thats all we're saying.
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Postby The Hierophancy » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:29 pm

UniversalCommons wrote:
The Hierophancy wrote:No peoples can resist the cool double-crown


It is not really assimilation though, Kush did not become part of Egypt. The Neo-Assyrians conquered the Egyptians and put in a puppet government.

I think its more assimilation of the rulers specifically rather than whatever culture they conquered from being integrated into Egypt. The Kushite dynasty - I believe - depicted themselves as proper Egyptian rulers, took Egyptian names / titles, sponsored traditionally Egyptian art / monuments, etc.

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Postby UniversalCommons » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:28 pm

I am looking to see what will happen to Nubia, Aksum and Arabia. Maybe we can rob a temple library in the chaos. Something appropriately non-benevolent like what we are doing with Uruk.

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Postby Endem » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:31 pm

UniversalCommons wrote:I am looking to see what will happen to Nubia, Aksum and Arabia. Maybe we can rob a temple library in the chaos. Something appropriately non-benevolent like what we are doing with Uruk.


Wait, is Siwa the one invading or being invaded?

Also, I believe I and Saxony-Branderburg agreed once to split Arabia for ourselves
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Postby UniversalCommons » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:36 pm

Endem wrote:
UniversalCommons wrote:I am looking to see what will happen to Nubia, Aksum and Arabia. Maybe we can rob a temple library in the chaos. Something appropriately non-benevolent like what we are doing with Uruk.


Wait, is Siwa the one invading or being invaded?

Also, I believe I and Saxony-Branderburg agreed once to split Arabia for ourselves


Siwa is the one invading. But, where there is chaos, there is opportunity.

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Postby Saxony-Brandenburg » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:19 pm

UniversalCommons wrote:
Endem wrote:
Wait, is Siwa the one invading or being invaded?

Also, I believe I and Saxony-Branderburg agreed once to split Arabia for ourselves


Siwa is the one invading. But, where there is chaos, there is opportunity.

I ain’t touching that shit. My power is far softer
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Postby Endem » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:16 am

UniversalCommons wrote:
Endem wrote:
Wait, is Siwa the one invading or being invaded?

Also, I believe I and Saxony-Branderburg agreed once to split Arabia for ourselves


Siwa is the one invading. But, where there is chaos, there is opportunity.

Who is it invading?
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Postby Twicetagram and JYPe » Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:49 am

Hi all! I remembered saying that I am interested in the older OOC, but I seemed to forget about it. I'm back, so yay!
I'm particularly interested in East/Southeast Asian cultures, and may explore either Korean, Japanese, Chinese, Burmese, Thai or Vietnamese cultures. (I know there are already Japanese and Chinese civilizations). May submit an OC once I finish doing my research on the different cultures.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:36 am

Twicetagram and JYPe wrote:Hi all! I remembered saying that I am interested in the older OOC, but I seemed to forget about it. I'm back, so yay!
I'm particularly interested in East/Southeast Asian cultures, and may explore either Korean, Japanese, Chinese, Burmese, Thai or Vietnamese cultures. (I know there are already Japanese and Chinese civilizations). May submit an OC once I finish doing my research on the different cultures.


We certainly have plenty of room in East Asia - you could easily establish a prosperous southeast Chinese state. One advantage is there isn't desperately much known about this era in much of the world, so you have some latitude to work with.
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Postby Twicetagram and JYPe » Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:53 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Twicetagram and JYPe wrote:Hi all! I remembered saying that I am interested in the older OOC, but I seemed to forget about it. I'm back, so yay!
I'm particularly interested in East/Southeast Asian cultures, and may explore either Korean, Japanese, Chinese, Burmese, Thai or Vietnamese cultures. (I know there are already Japanese and Chinese civilizations). May submit an OC once I finish doing my research on the different cultures.


We certainly have plenty of room in East Asia - you could easily establish a prosperous southeast Chinese state. One advantage is there isn't desperately much known about this era in much of the world, so you have some latitude to work with.

For me I'd either do a:
- Chinese culture in Vietnam
- Korean/Joseon settlements north of the Korean peninsula; probably has more Chinese cultural influences
- or Thai culture

I'm going for Chinese culture in Vietnam. Vietnam is known to be quite Sino-influenced, and the Chinese ruled them for some time, so I'm excited.

Since it's night time I'm going to sleep. May post an app tomorrow morning or afternoon depending on my schedule
johnathan

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:55 am

Twicetagram and JYPe wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
We certainly have plenty of room in East Asia - you could easily establish a prosperous southeast Chinese state. One advantage is there isn't desperately much known about this era in much of the world, so you have some latitude to work with.

For me I'd either do a:
- Chinese culture in Vietnam
- Korean/Joseon settlements north of the Korean peninsula; probably has more Chinese cultural influences
- or Thai culture

I'm going for Chinese culture in Vietnam. Vietnam is known to be quite Sino-influenced, and the Chinese ruled them for some time, so I'm excited.

Since it's night time I'm going to sleep. May post an app tomorrow morning or afternoon depending on my schedule


Mm, well, keep in mind that this is 3000 BCE. There isn't a unitary Chinese culture yet, let alone a Vietnamese culture, let alone Chinese influences in Vietnam.
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Postby Twicetagram and JYPe » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:12 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Twicetagram and JYPe wrote:For me I'd either do a:
- Chinese culture in Vietnam
- Korean/Joseon settlements north of the Korean peninsula; probably has more Chinese cultural influences
- or Thai culture

I'm going for Chinese culture in Vietnam. Vietnam is known to be quite Sino-influenced, and the Chinese ruled them for some time, so I'm excited.

Since it's night time I'm going to sleep. May post an app tomorrow morning or afternoon depending on my schedule


Mm, well, keep in mind that this is 3000 BCE. There isn't a unitary Chinese culture yet, let alone a Vietnamese culture, let alone Chinese influences in Vietnam.

Well damn. I guess I have to actually rewrite Chinese civilization.

Who's in charge of the Ming dynasty? Maybe I could refer to his works.
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