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Puertollano
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Postby Puertollano » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:37 pm

Sorry for being absent for a little while
Senator Levi Murphy (D-MN)
Chairwoman Lilyana Wolf (R-ME)
J.P. Randy Cramp (R-TX)
Mayor Tammy Tablot (I-NV)

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Kargintina the Third
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Postby Kargintina the Third » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:39 pm

Puertollano wrote:Sorry for being absent for a little while

Most people’s activity is down lately
Representative Earl Tenson (R-MT-All)

Senate candidate Christina Mudale (R-AL)

Senator Nickolai Dernilski (D-OH)

Houston Mayor Harold Baines (D-TX)

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Puertollano
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Postby Puertollano » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:42 pm

Who did Tawney pick for VP?
Senator Levi Murphy (D-MN)
Chairwoman Lilyana Wolf (R-ME)
J.P. Randy Cramp (R-TX)
Mayor Tammy Tablot (I-NV)

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New Cobastheia
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Postby New Cobastheia » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:44 pm

Puertollano wrote:Who did Tawney pick for VP?

Publically, he's saying he's just starting the selection process

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Jovuistan
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Postby Jovuistan » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:14 pm

Louisianan wrote:
Gordano and Lysandus wrote:Ah, Veep debate polls are just... *chef's kiss*

According to https://6abc.com/vice-presidential-debate-2020-winner-kamala-harris-mike-pence/6820636/ Pence won the debate

Who's gonna tell em how easy it is to rig internet polls?
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Louisianan
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Postby Louisianan » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:25 pm

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Louisianan wrote:If you ever have any Cajun culture questions, I'm your guy.

Best Cajun food?

Gumbo/Crawfish Etoufee and Jambalaya top three. 9Boudin and Cracklins are good too)

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Louisianan
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Postby Louisianan » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:27 pm

Jovuistan wrote:

Who's gonna tell em how easy it is to rig internet polls?

Where else would the polls come from???? The debate happened a few hours ago, no true polls have been taken yet I don't think. We stopped talking about this so instead of being an ass could you do what the rest of us are trying to do, change the subject????

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Louisianan
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Postby Louisianan » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:29 pm

Louisianan wrote:
Main Nation Ministry wrote:Best Cajun food?

Gumbo/Crawfish Etoufee and Jambalaya top three. (Boudin and Cracklins are good too)

Also, Cush Cush is good, it's a breakfast food, to basically fry cornmeal and then put it in milk.

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Jovuistan
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Postby Jovuistan » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:37 pm

Louisianan wrote:
Jovuistan wrote:Who's gonna tell em how easy it is to rig internet polls?

Where else would the polls come from???? The debate happened a few hours ago, no true polls have been taken yet I don't think. We stopped talking about this so instead of being an ass could you do what the rest of us are trying to do, change the subject????

CNN did. Multiple sources have done scientific polls already.
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Louisianan
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Postby Louisianan » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:39 pm

Jovuistan wrote:
Louisianan wrote:Where else would the polls come from???? The debate happened a few hours ago, no true polls have been taken yet I don't think. We stopped talking about this so instead of being an ass could you do what the rest of us are trying to do, change the subject????

CNN did. Multiple sources have done scientific polls already.

I am never going to CNN or FOX to look at polls. Both are completely biased

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Sarenium
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Postby Sarenium » Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:30 am

How humbling it is to lose an election.

Yet how empowering to lose by less than 50 votes!
...I'd like to do you slowly...
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Alozia
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Postby Alozia » Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:31 am

Louisianan wrote:
Jovuistan wrote:CNN did. Multiple sources have done scientific polls already.

I am never going to CNN or FOX to look at polls. Both are completely biased

CNN has a B+ rating according to fivethirtyeight, so idk about the bias.

That and the fact that they have a mean-reverted bias of D+0.0

Source
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Postby Meelducan » Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:40 am

Puertollano wrote:Who did Tawney pick for VP?

John Donaldson
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Postby Jovuistan » Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:48 am

Sarenium wrote:How humbling it is to lose an election.

Yet how empowering to lose by less than 50 votes!

:(
Die nasty!!111

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Postby Bruke » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:05 am

Tawney may run? it’s time to start plotting

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Alozia
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Postby Alozia » Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:12 am

Bruke wrote:Tawney may run? it’s time to start plotting

Tawney never said such thing, you may think that, but the President has never confirmed such a decision either publicly or in private.
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Louisianan
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Postby Louisianan » Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:21 am

Alozia wrote:
Louisianan wrote:I am never going to CNN or FOX to look at polls. Both are completely biased

CNN has a B+ rating according to fivethirtyeight, so idk about the bias.

That and the fact that they have a mean-reverted bias of D+0.0

Source

I don't care, CNN doesn't say anything good about republicans or trump, and fox doesn't say anything good about the democrats, I call that bias.
Source
According to this definition of bias, nobody in their right mind would say that CNN and FOX are not biased. They obviously are, in my opinion, the news media should be bipartisan and unbiased.
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Alozia
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Postby Alozia » Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:35 am

Louisianan wrote:
Alozia wrote:CNN has a B+ rating according to fivethirtyeight, so idk about the bias.

That and the fact that they have a mean-reverted bias of D+0.0

Source

I don't care, CNN doesn't say anything good about republicans or trump, and fox doesn't say anything good about the democrats, I call that bias.
Source

That's a nice definition but that's not how it relates to this poll. There is no reason to believe this poll is not legitimate unless you want to deny reality. The pollster, based on an analysis of over 100 polls they've conducted,
has a bias rating of D+0.0, which means that in this case any form of bias would have to present itself in the way the poll is being reported on, it's results are still legitimate. It seems to me you are just angry and try to build a narrative of false impartiality by discrediting both Fox and CNN in order to promote your point of view.

Being passive aggressive doesn't change the reality of the situation, people involved with polling for years and years are saying the pollster behind this poll can be trusted. Not sure what makes you qualified to try and take the moral high ground.
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Emazia
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Postby Emazia » Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:36 am

Louisianan wrote:
Alozia wrote:CNN has a B+ rating according to fivethirtyeight, so idk about the bias.

That and the fact that they have a mean-reverted bias of D+0.0

Source

I don't care, CNN doesn't say anything good about republicans or trump, and fox doesn't say anything good about the democrats, I call that bias.
Source
According to this definition of bias, nobody in their right mind would say that CNN and FOX are not biased. They obviously are, in my opinion, the news media should be bipartisan and unbiased.

While I do agree CNN have an anti-Trump slant, it's pretty misleading to say they have an anti-Republican slant - they did have pro-Iraq War coverage at the height of the war under Bush 43 iirc

Alozia wrote:
Louisianan wrote:I don't care, CNN doesn't say anything good about republicans or trump, and fox doesn't say anything good about the democrats, I call that bias.
Source

That's a nice definition but that's not how it relates to this poll. There is no reason to believe this poll is not legitimate unless you want to deny reality. The pollster, based on an analysis of over 100 polls they've conducted,
has a bias rating of D+0.0, which means that in this case any form of bias would have to present itself in the way the poll is being reported on, it's results are still legitimate. It seems to me you are just angry and try to build a narrative of false impartiality by discrediting both Fox and CNN in order to promote your point of view.

Being passive aggressive doesn't change the reality of the situation, people involved with polling for years and years are saying the pollster behind this poll can be trusted. Not sure what makes you qualified to try and take the moral high ground.

But also...this^
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Alozia
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Postby Alozia » Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:39 am

Emazia wrote:
Louisianan wrote:I don't care, CNN doesn't say anything good about republicans or trump, and fox doesn't say anything good about the democrats, I call that bias.
Source
According to this definition of bias, nobody in their right mind would say that CNN and FOX are not biased. They obviously are, in my opinion, the news media should be bipartisan and unbiased.

While I do agree CNN have an anti-Trump slant, it's pretty misleading to say they have an anti-Republican slant - they did have pro-Iraq War coverage at the height of the war under Bush 43 iirc

Alozia wrote:That's a nice definition but that's not how it relates to this poll. There is no reason to believe this poll is not legitimate unless you want to deny reality. The pollster, based on an analysis of over 100 polls they've conducted,
has a bias rating of D+0.0, which means that in this case any form of bias would have to present itself in the way the poll is being reported on, it's results are still legitimate. It seems to me you are just angry and try to build a narrative of false impartiality by discrediting both Fox and CNN in order to promote your point of view.

Being passive aggressive doesn't change the reality of the situation, people involved with polling for years and years are saying the pollster behind this poll can be trusted. Not sure what makes you qualified to try and take the moral high ground.

But also...this^

Also it's important to note that these polls aren't exactly conducted by Ted Turner or Chris Cuomo. It's a third party entity doing it for CNN.
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Emazia
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Postby Emazia » Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:40 am

Alozia wrote:
Emazia wrote:While I do agree CNN have an anti-Trump slant, it's pretty misleading to say they have an anti-Republican slant - they did have pro-Iraq War coverage at the height of the war under Bush 43 iirc


But also...this^

Also it's important to note that these polls aren't exactly conducted by Ted Turner or Chris Cuomo. It's a third party entity doing it for CNN.

That too. A news source simply presents a poll, rather than conducting it.
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Alozia
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Postby Alozia » Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:41 am

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Louisianan
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Postby Louisianan » Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:51 am

Alozia wrote:
Louisianan wrote:I don't care, CNN doesn't say anything good about republicans or trump, and fox doesn't say anything good about the democrats, I call that bias.
Source

That's a nice definition but that's not how it relates to this poll. There is no reason to believe this poll is not legitimate unless you want to deny reality. The pollster, based on an analysis of over 100 polls they've conducted,
has a bias rating of D+0.0, which means that in this case any form of bias would have to present itself in the way the poll is being reported on, it's results are still legitimate. It seems to me you are just angry and try to build a narrative of false impartiality by discrediting both Fox and CNN in order to promote your point of view.

Being passive aggressive doesn't change the reality of the situation, people involved with polling for years and years are saying the pollster behind this poll can be trusted. Not sure what makes you qualified to try and take the moral high ground.

How am I taking the moral high ground???? I am not going to listen to any news coverage or a poll shown by a news coverage who constantly bash Trump. I am not going to listen to any news coverage or poll shown by a news coverage who constantly bash Biden. How am I "build[ing] a narrative of false impartiality" when it comes to the media they should be impartial. CNN for instance in 2016, "TRUMP CANNOT WIN AND HE WILL NOT WIN, HILLARY HAS THIS" I dislike Trump and I dislike Biden but in my opinion, Trump is the lesser of two evils. I am not angry, and I am trying to promote a point of view that media should be impartial. What have I done wrong here? I never said the poll was illegitimate I simply said that the news coverage that did the poll has been biased towards one candidate. I personally watch and trust ABC. That is how I choose to get my media coverage, people running the country should be bipartisan to help all American people, but neither party is even attempting this, and neither is the news media.

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Louisianan
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Postby Louisianan » Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:56 am

This is CNN POLLSTER METHOD LIVE CALLER WITH CELLPHONES NCPP/​AAPOR/​ROPER POLLS ANALYZED SIMPLE AVERAGE ERROR RACES CALLED CORRECTLY ADVANCED +/- PREDICTIVE +/- 538 GRADE BANNED BY 538 MEAN-REVERTED BIAS
CNN/Opinion Research Corp.
Live
Polls Done;103
Simple Average Error;5.5
Races Called Correctly;72%
Advanced;-0.2
Predictive;-0.2
538 Grade;B+
Mean reverted Bias;D+0.0

This is ABCPOLLSTER METHOD LIVE CALLER WITH CELLPHONES NCPP/​AAPOR/​ROPER POLLS ANALYZED SIMPLE AVERAGE ERROR RACES CALLED CORRECTLY ADVANCED +/- PREDICTIVE +/- 538 GRADE BANNED BY 538 MEAN-REVERTED BIAS
ABC News/The Washington Post
Live
Polls Done;73
Simple Average Error;2.8
Races Called Correctly;72%
Advanced;-1.7
Predictive;-1.3
538 grade;A+
Mean Reverted Bias;D+0.5

Whether ABC has a bias or not, they are still more reliable in my opinion.
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Postby Louisianan » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:02 am

That is from your little poll research website ^^^^

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