A Golden Era of Empires RP [AH] (OOC/OPEN/SIGNUPS)

[Benuty]

Note of curiousity, where did you all get your GDP's?

[Monsone]

Note of curiousity, where did you all get your GDP's?

Most major countries have their historical GDPs on Wikipedia.

[Reinoniananiananonanonona]

Nation Reservation

This reservation lasts for two weeks after which it cannot be renewed.

Nation Being Reserved: Tokugawa Shogunate
Territorial Claim: Japan, Hebei, Tianjin, Shandong, Jiangsu, Taiwan
Did You Read The Rules? Yes. Yes I have.

[Mathuvan Union]

Nation Reservation

This reservation lasts for two weeks after which it cannot be renewed.

Nation Being Reserved: Tokugawa Shogunate
Territorial Claim: Japan, Korea, Hebei, Tianjin, Shandong, Jiangsu, Taiwan
Did You Read The Rules? Yes. Yes I have.

Most of those places have been claimed by the Russian player.

[Mathuvan Union]

Note of curiousity, where did you all get your GDP's?

Most major countries have their historical GDPs on Wikipedia.

I had the hardest time finding the Netherlands’ one.

[Monsone]

Nation Reservation

This reservation lasts for two weeks after which it cannot be renewed.

Nation Being Reserved: Tokugawa Shogunate
Territorial Claim: Japan, Korea, Hebei, Tianjin, Shandong, Jiangsu, Taiwan
Did You Read The Rules? Yes. Yes I have.

Korea has been claimed, as has Manchuria. The rest is available though.

[Reinoniananiananonanonona]

Nation Reservation

This reservation lasts for two weeks after which it cannot be renewed.

Nation Being Reserved: Tokugawa Shogunate
Territorial Claim: Japan, Korea, Hebei, Tianjin, Shandong, Jiangsu, Taiwan
Did You Read The Rules? Yes. Yes I have.

Korea has been claimed, as has Manchuria. The rest is available though.

Sorry about that. Only consulted map; shows Korea as unclaimed territory. Updating claim!

[Monsone]

Korea has been claimed, as has Manchuria. The rest is available though.

Sorry about that. Only consulted map; shows Korea as unclaimed territory. Updating claim!

No problem. A map update is long overdue.

[Reinoniananiananonanonona]

Wait, if the starting point is 1914 but the Russo-Japanese War (1904-05) must happen to an outcome to be decided by the Russian and Japanese players (i.e. Monsone and I, respectively), then...I don't know what question I'm trying to ask, it's just confusing

[Monsone]

Wait, if the starting point is 1914 but the Russo-Japanese War (1904-05) must happen to an outcome to be decided by the Russian and Japanese players (i.e. Monsone and I, respectively), then...I don't know what question I'm trying to ask, it's just confusing

It was TBD but I wrote into my application that Japan ost in this timeline. That also plays into the independent Korea scenario.

[Reinoniananiananonanonona]

Huh.
NOTE TO ALL FUTURE APPLIERS: Read everyone else's goddamn apps. Please.

[Monsone]

Huh.
NOTE TO ALL FUTURE APPLIERS: Read everyone else's goddamn apps. Please.

As a general rule, people do tend to read the applications of others...

[Reinoniananiananonanonona]

NEW NOTE TO FUTURE APPLIERS WHO REFUSE TO READ OTHER PEOPLE'S APPS OUT OF CONVENIENCE: You don't want to end up like me. I almost 'won' the Russo-Japanese War!

There we go.

[Monsone]

It is now February 1st, 1914 to March 1st, 1914.

[Mathuvan Union]

It is now February 1st, 1914 to March 1st, 1914.

The poppies fly in Flanders fields...

[Arvenia]

Application for a Nation

Official Name of the Nation: United Kingdom of Scandinavia
Shortened Name: Scandinavia
Head of State: King Oscar Gustaf Adolf
Head of Goverment: Prime Minister Ludvig Johansson
Government Type: Unitary constitutional parliamentary monarchy
Territorial Claim: Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Svalbard, Greenland, Faroe Islands, Saint-Barthélemy, Guadeloupe and Danish West Indies
Map Color: Cyan
Alliances the Nation is in: None at the moment
Population: 10,492,800
National Language(s): Swedish, Danish and Norwegian
Lingua Franca(s): Same as above
GDP: $529 billion (2019 est.)
GDP Per Capita: $51,242 (2019 est.)
Currency: Kronor
Railroad Gauge: 891 mm (2 ft 11 3⁄32 in) - 1,000 mm (3 ft 3 3⁄8 in)
Military Size: 85,000 (56,000 actives and 29,000 reserves)
Conscription: All male citizens must serve for at least two years as active troops before switching over to the reserve forces
Major differences between this timeline's nation and the in real life nation: The Pan-Scandinavian Movement was more successful than IRL, Sweden was able to exert control over both Norway and Denmark, the Caribbean territories (Saint-Barthélemy, Guadeloupe and Danish West Indies) remained under Scandinavian control and the Scandinavian military gained access to better weapons than IRL.
History: WIP
Issues Plaguing the Nation (3-5 Minimum): WIP
Did You Read The Rules? Yes

Hey, can I get help with filling out the history section for my nation? I want to know how my nation would have been formed (mainly in regards to pan-Scandinavism).

[Monsone]

Application for a Nation

Official Name of the Nation: United Kingdom of Scandinavia
Shortened Name: Scandinavia
Head of State: King Oscar Gustaf Adolf
Head of Goverment: Prime Minister Ludvig Johansson
Government Type: Unitary constitutional parliamentary monarchy
Territorial Claim: Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Svalbard, Greenland, Faroe Islands, Saint-Barthélemy, Guadeloupe and Danish West Indies
Map Color: Cyan
Alliances the Nation is in: None at the moment
Population: 10,492,800
National Language(s): Swedish, Danish and Norwegian
Lingua Franca(s): Same as above
GDP: $529 billion (2019 est.)
GDP Per Capita: $51,242 (2019 est.)
Currency: Kronor
Railroad Gauge: 891 mm (2 ft 11 3⁄32 in) - 1,000 mm (3 ft 3 3⁄8 in)
Military Size: 85,000 (56,000 actives and 29,000 reserves)
Conscription: All male citizens must serve for at least two years as active troops before switching over to the reserve forces
Major differences between this timeline's nation and the in real life nation: The Pan-Scandinavian Movement was more successful than IRL, Sweden was able to exert control over both Norway and Denmark, the Caribbean territories (Saint-Barthélemy, Guadeloupe and Danish West Indies) remained under Scandinavian control and the Scandinavian military gained access to better weapons than IRL.
History: WIP
Issues Plaguing the Nation (3-5 Minimum): WIP
Did You Read The Rules? Yes

Hey, can I get help with filling out the history section for my nation? I want to know how my nation would have been formed (mainly in regards to pan-Scandinavism).

The issue with the pan-Scandinavian movement is that it promoted a dominant group (often Sweden). Norway (which was under Swedish rule up until 1905) didn't like this one bit. And Denmark had had historically meh relations with Sweden because of wars in the 16th, 17th, and 18th centuries. For the colonies, it's an easy fix, Sweden doesn't give up on them out of pride. Perhaps after a certain Peter the Great destroys the Swedish, Sweden becomes more focused on it's remaining colonies. And that fact is especially driven in after Russia seizes Finland and Åland in the early 19th century, prompting Sweden to become very paranoid about its remaining territories.

[Arvenia]

Hey, can I get help with filling out the history section for my nation? I want to know how my nation would have been formed (mainly in regards to pan-Scandinavism).

The issue with the pan-Scandinavian movement is that it promoted a dominant group (often Sweden). Norway (which was under Swedish rule up until 1905) didn't like this one bit. And Denmark had had historically meh relations with Sweden because of wars in the 16th, 17th, and 18th centuries. For the colonies, it's an easy fix, Sweden doesn't give up on them out of pride. Perhaps after a certain Peter the Great destroys the Swedish, Sweden becomes more focused on it's remaining colonies. And that fact is especially driven in after Russia seizes Finland and Åland in the early 19th century, prompting Sweden to become very paranoid about its remaining territories.

Should I rename Scandinavia to Sweden then and turn both Denmark and Norway into puppet regimes?

[Monsone]

The issue with the pan-Scandinavian movement is that it promoted a dominant group (often Sweden). Norway (which was under Swedish rule up until 1905) didn't like this one bit. And Denmark had had historically meh relations with Sweden because of wars in the 16th, 17th, and 18th centuries. For the colonies, it's an easy fix, Sweden doesn't give up on them out of pride. Perhaps after a certain Peter the Great destroys the Swedish, Sweden becomes more focused on it's remaining colonies. And that fact is especially driven in after Russia seizes Finland and Åland in the early 19th century, prompting Sweden to become very paranoid about its remaining territories.

Should I rename Scandinavia to Sweden then and turn both Denmark and Norway into puppet regimes?

I am not saying that. because in doing so, Norway and Denmark would declare independence. Becoming Sweden is exactly why pan-Scandinavianisim failed in the early 20th century. I was simply giving historical context for how you may want to shape your history.

[Mathuvan Union]

Should I rename Scandinavia to Sweden then and turn both Denmark and Norway into puppet regimes?

I am not saying that. because in doing so, Norway and Denmark would declare independence. Becoming Sweden is exactly why pan-Scandinavianisim failed in the early 20th century. I was simply giving historical context for how you may want to shape your history.

what if Sweden kept Norway in 1905? likely wouldn't that change the scenario?
also, for my IC post, would Siam have to agree to building a bridge/tunnel to their territory?

[Monsone]

I am not saying that. because in doing so, Norway and Denmark would declare independence. Becoming Sweden is exactly why pan-Scandinavianisim failed in the early 20th century. I was simply giving historical context for how you may want to shape your history.

what if Sweden kept Norway in 1905? likely wouldn't that change the scenario?
also, for my IC post, would Siam have to agree to building a bridge/tunnel to their territory?

1. I was implying that. But it would mean a serious re-write of the constitution and several pretty radical reforms.

2. I thought Malasiya would be closer, as would Singapore. But Siam might accept.

[Mathuvan Union]

what if Sweden kept Norway in 1905? likely wouldn't that change the scenario?
also, for my IC post, would Siam have to agree to building a bridge/tunnel to their territory?

1. I was implying that. But it would mean a serious re-write of the constitution and several pretty radical reforms.

2. I thought Malasiya would be closer, as would Singapore. But Siam might accept.

1. Ohh that’s gonna be hard
2. Yer I was thinking that but also thinking of improving Siamese relations.

[Reinoniananiananonanonona]

Application for a Nation

Official Name of the Nation: Imperial Shogunate of Japan (日本の帝国幕府, Nihon no Teikoku Bakufu)
Shortened Name: Japan, the Shogunate, Shogunate of Japan
Head of State: Emperor Meiji
Head of Goverment: Shogun Tokugawa Iesato
Government Type: Empire-esque feudal, hereditary stratocracy
Territorial Claim: The Japanese home islands, Taiwan, and modern-day Hebei, Tianjin, Shandong, and Jiangsu
Alliances the Nation is in: N/A
Population: 53,556,070 (assuming real-life flat increase from 1 October, 1910, to 1 October, 1915, up to 1 January 1914)
National Language(s): Japanese
Lingua Franca(s): Japanese, Korean, Chinese
GDP: $41240625396.84 (assuming no growth from 1890-1914 in real life, and adjusted from the 1890 dollar to the 1914 dollar)
GDP Per Capita: $770.05
Currency: Yen (¥)
Railroad Gauge: Narrow gauge across home islands, 2'6"-narrow gauge in Chinese territories (I have little to no data on 1914 Japanese rail gauges, so I'm just guessing here)
Military Size: Approx. 464,000 soldiers across 232 guntai, each consisting of four gun of five butai each
Conscription (if so, mention for how long): Only in wartime, at a minimum service length of two years
Major differences between this timeline's nation and the in real life nation (explain said differences in the history section):

• Instead of a takeover by forces advocating the return of control to the Emperor, the 1800 governmental shogunate form remains stable through the century and the Tokugawa clan stays in power.
• Japan loses to Russia in the Russo-Japanese war and loses its claims on Korea, Manchuria, and certain other regions in Northeast China.
• Bouts of 19th century expansion leads to successful invasion of Taiwan and some coastal regions of mainland China further south of Manchuria, but little to no pushes farther inland.

History: The Imperial Shogunate of Japan remained staunchly proud and isolationist through the nineteenth century. However, after news started pouring in of vigorous conquests being undertaken by European empires, doubts were expressed regarding the Archipelago's ability to hold its own against the white men from the west, or at least no longer be seen as a circus of yellow midgets.
In 1819, around 200,000 soldiers of the (officially) Imperial Army stormed multiple positions along the east Chinese coast. It was the first attempt at conquests conquest outside of the Home Islands made by the Shogunate since two failed invasions of Korea in the late 16th century, but European weapons and a badly inferior Qing Chinese enemy made for easy pickings. The Japanese soldiers, accustomed to sweeping down low, grassy hills, struggled in efforts to forge inland, but the new coastal territories were enough to establish the Shogunate as a rising power. However, over the next four decades, many leaders noted the distance between Japan and its new land, and recommended the securing of the sealanes by routing them through a location closer to home.
In mid-May, 1860, a forward force of a few dozen thousand men, including around two thousand samurai, invaded the southern coast of Korea, returning after almost three centuries. But the invasion could not have been more ill-timed. While being regularly beleaguered by fierce counterattacks by local militias, Japan and its attacks also turned out to be veritable proof of the weakness of the incumbent Korean government. The Hae coup would weaponize the invasion as one of its most important justifications. Not wanting to fight a three-way war, Japan pulled out of Korea and lost what meager gains it had made, and Japanese generals exhaled in relief at not having squandered the forward force, and then some, on a multiyear war of attrition. The Shogunate's third invasion of Korea had crashed and burned like its predecessors.
Another forty years passed, and the Shogunate's forces had swelled to bursting. A force of around 800,000 troops, just a few thousand troops short of encompassing the entire Imperial Army, was sneaked across the sea into Japanese territories in the Bay of Bohai, and geared up for Japan's fifth major offensive since the Toyotomi Shogunate fell. In 1904, Japan launched a shock strike into the resource-rich Manchurian Plain, but already-strained Russo-Japanese relations deteriorated when the two empires found each other striking at the area. When a stalemate was broken by Russian forces and critical seizures were made, Japan was established as the ignominious loser and lost all its gains between 1904-05. Only 180,000 Japanese soldiers survived to sail home from Japanese China.
But in 1914, this shameful turn of events has not diminished Japan's ambitions to expand the Empire and unite the continent of Asia. The Shogunate still struggles to rebuild and rearm after the catastrophe of the Russo-Japanese War. But in spite of its financial and logistical issues, it has gotten numbers back up to a respectable level that still makes the generals of neighbouring countries fret. All that remains is for Japan to find the right time to make those generals start panicking.
Issues Plaguing the Nation (3-5 Minimum):

• Fatal Political Infighting - While Japan has had few problems with outright coups and the country is generally united behind the idea of an Asia united under the Hinomaru. But even in the highest echelons of government, there is fierce infighting over methods of achieving this. One faction wishes for the Shogunate to bide its time and wait for Western complacency, then unleash its military prowess in a series of shock strikes on the world. Another wants it to happen now, and for Japan to honorably accept the consequences of failure. Another wants to forge alliances with the Europeans, and yet another calls for the restoration of power to the Emperor - it is complete and utter chaos, and assassinations are a regular risk for any partisan members of one faction. The Shogun must make sure to establish a quiet loyalty to one faction, but must be willing to acquiesce to the demands of others in certain ways, lest the Japanese ruling family line finally end.
• Naval Weakness - Japan has few natural resources to go by. After a mass wooden-ship scrapping program in the 1890s, the Imperial Navy is fully modernized, but it is also nothing more than a band of small flotillas that happen to have very large guns. It lacks the ability to produce ships with the projection to compete with the European powers encroaching on Asian territory. Japan must get over its long-held tradition of isolation and come to France or Britain requesting construction of new ships, and/or take a risk and launch strikes against resource-rich inland China, Indochina, or even the Dutch East Indies. If that path is chosen, another confrontation with Russia over Manchuria will be inevitable.
• Economic Instability - Japan's economy is doing well and business is booming for Japan's greatest conglomerates (the Zaibatsu, 財閥) as coordination and support of the government is extensive. But Japan's lack of prowess in the ways of trading any resource other than crops and mercenaries means that it is also highly speculative, since with little domestic-made income, the Zaibatsus rely on a massive international network of loans and financial reciprocity. Any financial crisis or diplomatic spat will be devastating for the nation, so Japan must forge a stronger foundation from which to join and stay on the world economic stage. Preferably one of blood.
• Diplomatic Obligations - Though the pro-West faction may not always have a major say within the Shogunate, certainly some diplomatic promises must be made. Japan may seem distant from the endless wars of Europe, but it must bear in mind the lengths Westerners will go to to keep just a few tiny islands - an endless infinity of which are scattered in the ocean in which Japan lies. Inevitably, it will have to intervene in their disputes, but when it chooses a side it will be bound to it for at least a decade. It must be prepared to lack the recognition it may deserve for helping one faction win, and be careful not to add extensively to its list of war reparations to be made if its alliance finds itself losing. Overall, diplomacy is not easy for Japan to navigate, especially considering its isolationist and borderline xenophobic traditions of centuries past.

Did You Read The Rules? Yes. I have.

[Monsone]

-snip-

Very interesting. Accepted.

[Reinoniananiananonanonona]

Arigatōgozaimashita.