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by Neo Yeetia » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:03 am
by Monsone » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:11 am
Neo Yeetia wrote:You think a Communist/Socialist France is possible? Like the Paris Commune is more successful or something?
by Neo Yeetia » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:13 am
Monsone wrote:Neo Yeetia wrote:You think a Communist/Socialist France is possible? Like the Paris Commune is more successful or something?
France before WW1? No. French socialisim and communism became popular because of WW1 and the destruction it brought. Before WW1, France swayed between center-left and center-right politically and on both sides there was a zealous passion in colonizing and subjugating Africa's resources and it's people.
by Neo Yeetia » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:43 am
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by Neo Yeetia » Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:13 am
by Mathuvan Union » Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:22 am
Monsone wrote:Neo Yeetia wrote:You think a Communist/Socialist France is possible? Like the Paris Commune is more successful or something?
France before WW1? No. French socialisim and communism became popular because of WW1 and the destruction it brought. Before WW1, France swayed between center-left and center-right politically and on both sides there was a zealous passion in colonizing and subjugating Africa's resources and it's people.
by New Sriker » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:31 am
Monsone wrote:Neo Yeetia wrote:You think a Communist/Socialist France is possible? Like the Paris Commune is more successful or something?
France before WW1? No. French socialisim and communism became popular because of WW1 and the destruction it brought. Before WW1, France swayed between center-left and center-right politically and on both sides there was a zealous passion in colonizing and subjugating Africa's resources and it's people.
by Monsone » Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:06 am
New Sriker wrote:Monsone wrote:France before WW1? No. French socialism and communism became popular because of WW1 and the destruction it brought. Before WW1, France swayed between center-left and center-right politically and on both sides, there was a zealous passion in colonizing and subjugating Africa's resources and it's people.
French Socialism was large before WW1, but they would most likely try a Democratic way of taking over rather than a Revolution and would have a large amount of Leftist infighting.
by New Sriker » Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:44 am
Monsone wrote:New Sriker wrote:
French Socialism was large before WW1, but they would most likely try a Democratic way of taking over rather than a Revolution and would have a large amount of Leftist infighting.
It was socialism in terms of social programs and perhaps a socialist government. there were more extreme groups, but they were relatively weak because of infighting and disagreements. Not to mention the more conservative groups held huge amounts of power (especially in the military [read: Dreyfus Affair]), meaning that any socialist government is going to be moderated by the other more conservative factions. the big catalyst for Socialism IRL was Russia, and while Italy could play that role, the fact that there would be a socialist nation next-door would scare the more conservative French elements and would make them more paranoid of any leftist movements.
by Monsone » Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:46 am
New Sriker wrote:You got a point, If a Socialist government did take power in France their would be issues with the Military, but it would still be fun to see how the French player handles it.
by Monsone » Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:03 am
Mathuvan Union wrote:-snip-
by Sarderia » Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:48 am
by Mathuvan Union » Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:31 am
by Monsone » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:10 pm
Mathuvan Union wrote:You do realise I have a life outside of NS, right? Sometimes that limits my abilities, I will actually focus on this now.
I would like a reconsideration.
by Mathuvan Union » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:45 pm
Monsone wrote:Mathuvan Union wrote:You do realise I have a life outside of NS, right? Sometimes that limits my abilities, I will actually focus on this now.
I would like a reconsideration.
I do. In fact, we all have lives outside of NS. And yes that can limit people's abilities, I know how it can be. But, in the previous RPs, you have been in (several which were over the summer), your performance has been less than satisfactory on several fronts. Shockingly, you don't need to write a post in one sitting. Most people save drafts of posts for RPs and it may take them days or even weeks to complete a post. And when those posts are complete, they are thorough, well thought out, and carefully crafted posts that tell a story that fits with the storyline and coalesce with what other players have written.
I'm not asking people to be active every day, nor am I asking them to post more than once a week (I will make exceptions for those who are truly busy). I understand that we all have other responsibilities outside of NS. However, we shouldn't let those responsibilities harm our final product (an RP post). Most people on this site have jobs or other full-time responsibilities (myself included). Yet we don't let those responsibilities affect the quality of our posts. Additionally, your track record with flying fast and loose with the rules as well as in general creating unnecessary (and frankly unwarranted considering the porgression of the RP in many cases) chaos in IC threads (which I have received complaints about) all where also factored into my decision.
by Kenobot » Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:46 pm
Monsone wrote:Mathuvan Union wrote:You do realise I have a life outside of NS, right? Sometimes that limits my abilities, I will actually focus on this now.
I would like a reconsideration.
I do. In fact, we all have lives outside of NS. And yes that can limit people's abilities, I know how it can be. But, in the previous RPs, you have been in (several which were over the summer), your performance has been less than satisfactory on several fronts. Shockingly, you don't need to write a post in one sitting. Most people save drafts of posts for RPs and it may take them days or even weeks to complete a post. And when those posts are complete, they are thorough, well thought out, and carefully crafted posts that tell a story that fits with the storyline and coalesce with what other players have written.
I'm not asking people to be active every day, nor am I asking them to post more than once a week (I will make exceptions for those who are truly busy). I understand that we all have other responsibilities outside of NS. However, we shouldn't let those responsibilities harm our final product (an RP post). Most people on this site have jobs or other full-time responsibilities (myself included). Yet we don't let those responsibilities affect the quality of our posts. Additionally, your track record with flying fast and loose with the rules as well as in general creating unnecessary (and frankly unwarranted considering the porgression of the RP in many cases) chaos in IC threads (which I have received complaints about) all where also factored into my decision.
by Monsone » Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:57 pm
Kenobot wrote:Nearly finished collating my first post as the North American Union too, so should be exciting.
Also a question: How do we expect WW1 to kick off? As IRL?
by Monsone » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:30 pm
Mathuvan Union wrote:Gee, sorry for hurting your reputation which you seem so keen about.
If you don’t want me in this roleplay, just because I prefer a bit of action, fine. My quality has dipped because I have school, and I need to focus on school. Again, I would like you to rethink that.
I have year 12 exams coming up, a pet to give away, and am moving. I am stressed out, so my post quality is falling.
I will improve it. I promise. give me a oppurtunity.
by New Sriker » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:04 pm
Monsone wrote:Kenobot wrote:Nearly finished collating my first post as the North American Union too, so should be exciting.
Also a question: How do we expect WW1 to kick off? As IRL?
I have no clue how WW1 will kick off. The most likely cases are (1) as IRL, (2) a scuffle between Russia and the Ottoman Empire, (3) the two Americas clashing, (4) Germany and the UK clashing, and (5) some other Balkan trouble (like a new Balkan war).
by Kenobot » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:11 pm
Monsone wrote:Kenobot wrote:Nearly finished collating my first post as the North American Union too, so should be exciting.
Also a question: How do we expect WW1 to kick off? As IRL?
I have no clue how WW1 will kick off. The most likely cases are (1) as IRL, (2) a scuffle between Russia and the Ottoman Empire, (3) the two Americas clashing, (4) Germany and the UK clashing, and (5) some other Balkan trouble (like a new Balkan war).
by Monsone » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:15 pm
Kenobot wrote:Monsone wrote:
I have no clue how WW1 will kick off. The most likely cases are (1) as IRL, (2) a scuffle between Russia and the Ottoman Empire, (3) the two Americas clashing, (4) Germany and the UK clashing, and (5) some other Balkan trouble (like a new Balkan war).
But we'll default to as IRL if none of the others occur, right?
Just thinking about how the NAU public would react to going to war as IRL.
I don't think we'll be clashing openly, but a Cold War-esque situation might arise in North America
by Bolslania » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:48 pm
Monsone wrote:Kenobot wrote:But we'll default to as IRL if none of the others occur, right?
Just thinking about how the NAU public would react to going to war as IRL.
I don't think we'll be clashing openly, but a Cold War-esque situation might arise in North America
There doesn't necessarily need to be a World War 1. It's just as likely our favorite archduke isn't killed in a certain Bosnian city and WW1 never begins.
by Neo Yeetia » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:52 pm
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