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Postby Plzen » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:15 pm

Arvenia wrote:Is Cascadia possible?

The continental United States remains intact, so any Cascadia that cuts into US territory would not be accepted.

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Postby SangMar » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:42 pm

Plzen wrote:
SangMar wrote:Would it be feasible to create a successor state to the US as an application? Obviously, it would control all of the territories of the US, be suffering from the issues outlined in the OP, and be the clear number 2 in global economic, cultural and military power. But, if I were to put in an application - could I make that happen? Or does it have to be the United States exactly?

It needs to control the Continental 48 states and it needs to be a clear global superpower. Everything else - regime, culture, demographics - can have changed as much as you think is plausible by 2095.


Great. I’ll work on something soon - though if someone else snaps up the US in the mean time, no worries.
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Postby Arvenia » Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:50 pm

Plzen wrote:
Arvenia wrote:Is Cascadia possible?

The continental United States remains intact, so any Cascadia that cuts into US territory would not be accepted.

Is there any country that is good for an environmentalist government?
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Postby SangMar » Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:22 pm

Arvenia wrote:
Plzen wrote:The continental United States remains intact, so any Cascadia that cuts into US territory would not be accepted.

Is there any country that is good for an environmentalist government?


Perhaps New Zealand?
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:48 pm

Is my updated Russian app accepted? :)
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:43 pm

Arvenia wrote:
Plzen wrote:The continental United States remains intact, so any Cascadia that cuts into US territory would not be accepted.

Is there any country that is good for an environmentalist government?


Maybe Norway.
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Postby Plzen » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:50 pm

Sao Nova Europa wrote:RUSSIAN FEDERATION

Accepted!

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Postby Nazeroth » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:18 pm

Plzen wrote:
SangMar wrote:Would it be feasible to create a successor state to the US as an application? Obviously, it would control all of the territories of the US, be suffering from the issues outlined in the OP, and be the clear number 2 in global economic, cultural and military power. But, if I were to put in an application - could I make that happen? Or does it have to be the United States exactly?

It needs to control the Continental 48 states and it needs to be a clear global superpower. Everything else - regime, culture, demographics - can have changed as much as you think is plausible by 2095.


id be interested in that, idk how dedicated I could be but I could at least play the part for awhile.

but i would definatley be more interested in an alternate history China or USA
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Postby SangMar » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:27 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Plzen wrote:It needs to control the Continental 48 states and it needs to be a clear global superpower. Everything else - regime, culture, demographics - can have changed as much as you think is plausible by 2095.


id be interested in that, idk how dedicated I could be but I could at least play the part for awhile.

but i would definatley be more interested in an alternate history China or USA


I’ll put in app for whatever nation you don’t choose. My US app isn’t anywhere near being complete as it is, so there’s no great issue in starting over.
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While my sig is mostly jest, and I do not want to harm those who are tankies, let me say this: If you’re the type to talk about “fash” or “bashing the fash” yet refuse to criticise the crimes of Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao, then you need to take a long, hard fucking look at yourself. Because you ARE the thing you want to “bash”, even if you dress it up in a different skin.

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Postby Nazeroth » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:28 pm

SangMar wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
id be interested in that, idk how dedicated I could be but I could at least play the part for awhile.

but i would definatley be more interested in an alternate history China or USA


I’ll put in app for whatever nation you don’t choose. My US app isn’t anywhere near being complete as it is, so there’s no great issue in starting over.


well, what do you want?
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Postby SangMar » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:33 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
SangMar wrote:
I’ll put in app for whatever nation you don’t choose. My US app isn’t anywhere near being complete as it is, so there’s no great issue in starting over.


well, what do you want?


I’m currently doing a US app - but I don’t mind if I’m honest. I can do either nation. It’s up to you.
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https://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2?ec=-4.88&soc=-4.31

While my sig is mostly jest, and I do not want to harm those who are tankies, let me say this: If you’re the type to talk about “fash” or “bashing the fash” yet refuse to criticise the crimes of Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao, then you need to take a long, hard fucking look at yourself. Because you ARE the thing you want to “bash”, even if you dress it up in a different skin.

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Postby Nazeroth » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:35 pm

SangMar wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
well, what do you want?


I’m currently doing a US app - but I don’t mind if I’m honest. I can do either nation. It’s up to you.


Well, I was considering for the United States, a Christian theocratic republic
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Postby Bolslania » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:38 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
SangMar wrote:
I’m currently doing a US app - but I don’t mind if I’m honest. I can do either nation. It’s up to you.


Well, I was considering for the United States, a Christian theocratic republic


Or you could do an Islamic Theocratic state in the Middle East

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Postby SangMar » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:45 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
SangMar wrote:
I’m currently doing a US app - but I don’t mind if I’m honest. I can do either nation. It’s up to you.


Well, I was considering for the United States, a Christian theocratic republic


That’s fine with me. I’ll do a Chinese app.
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While my sig is mostly jest, and I do not want to harm those who are tankies, let me say this: If you’re the type to talk about “fash” or “bashing the fash” yet refuse to criticise the crimes of Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao, then you need to take a long, hard fucking look at yourself. Because you ARE the thing you want to “bash”, even if you dress it up in a different skin.

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Postby Nazeroth » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:48 pm

SangMar wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
Well, I was considering for the United States, a Christian theocratic republic


That’s fine with me. I’ll do a Chinese app.




But China is still number 1 right? I actually don't like playing as really strong nations.
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:53 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
SangMar wrote:
I’m currently doing a US app - but I don’t mind if I’m honest. I can do either nation. It’s up to you.


Well, I was considering for the United States, a Christian theocratic republic


Sorry, but this RP isn't alt-history. The US could of evolved into that, but changes can only start happening after 2020.
Yugoslavia's back baby...

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Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Is it a race of cyborg neo-life at war with any assimilating organisms they come across in the far far future? Who knows, who cares?
New Yugoslavia just is.

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Postby Plzen » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:04 pm

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
Well, I was considering for the United States, a Christian theocratic republic


Sorry, but this RP isn't alt-history. The US could of evolved into that, but changes can only start happening after 2020.

2020-2095 is plenty of time to take American politics in virtually any direction, to be honest, depending on what happens.

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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:16 pm

I have to say it would be kinda of funny if in this RP Russia is the liberal democracy and US a dictatorial reactionary regime. :p
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:34 pm

Sao Nova Europa wrote:I have to say it would be kinda of funny if in this RP Russia is the liberal democracy and US a dictatorial reactionary regime. :p


Well, it has been 75 years...
Yugoslavia's back baby...

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Well...we don't actually know. Just sort of happened one day.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Is it a race of cyborg neo-life at war with any assimilating organisms they come across in the far far future? Who knows, who cares?
New Yugoslavia just is.

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Postby Bolslania » Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:34 pm

Sao Nova Europa wrote:I have to say it would be kinda of funny if in this RP Russia is the liberal democracy and US a dictatorial reactionary regime. :p

Look at modern America. We've got the reactionary down

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Postby Sudbrazil » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:43 am

I am tempted to play as an Asian defence pact reluctantly formed with Japan, but I really don’t know where to go.

Maybe Neo-China would be more flexible.

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Postby SangMar » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:47 am

Sudbrazil wrote:I am tempted to play as an Asian defence pact reluctantly formed with Japan, but I really don’t know where to go.

Maybe Neo-China would be more flexible.


Go ahead and make a China app if you like. I’m happy to continue working on my NZ app.
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Postby Arvenia » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:50 am

Can I be Greenland?
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Postby Plzen » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:51 am

Arvenia wrote:Can I be Greenland?

...feel free, but it wouldn't exactly be a major power, what with its negligible population.

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Postby New yugoslavaia » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:51 am

Sudbrazil wrote:I am tempted to play as an Asian defence pact reluctantly formed with Japan, but I really don’t know where to go.

Maybe Neo-China would be more flexible.


Well, I can always doing some else.
China would of probably been too much anyway.
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
Well...we don't actually know. Just sort of happened one day.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Is it a race of cyborg neo-life at war with any assimilating organisms they come across in the far far future? Who knows, who cares?
New Yugoslavia just is.

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