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by Arvenia » Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:56 am
by Mathuvan Union » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:33 am
Kenobot wrote:Mathuvan Union wrote:that wasn't fascism that was national socialism with lashings of fascism
Hmmm could it have to do with fascist collaboration with National Socialism during the Second World War like:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_war_crimes_in_Italy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_in_Hungary
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o ... _Holocaust
by Kenobot » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:45 am
Mathuvan Union wrote:Kenobot wrote:Hmmm could it have to do with fascist collaboration with National Socialism during the Second World War like:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_war_crimes_in_Italy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_in_Hungary
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o ... _Holocaust
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_war_crimes
wwe aren't all perfect--what I'm saying is that it makes no sense to go after a fascist government because theyre fascist
by Mathuvan Union » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:52 am
Kenobot wrote:Mathuvan Union wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_war_crimes
wwe aren't all perfect--what I'm saying is that it makes no sense to go after a fascist government because theyre fascist
They don't really stack up compared to the crimes of the Axis. Was it bad some of the things the Allies did, sure. But we're the good guys and the Axis were quite clearly the bad guys and the Axis were all fascists/national socialists.
The Soviet Union is another story.
But please don't moral equivalence the Allies and the Axis. They're not comparable. Fascism is an evil ideology which normal people across the Western World have despised and sought to destroy for more than 80 years. Hence why especially Israel will target you
by Greater Liverpool » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:00 am
Mathuvan Union wrote:Kenobot wrote:They don't really stack up compared to the crimes of the Axis. Was it bad some of the things the Allies did, sure. But we're the good guys and the Axis were quite clearly the bad guys and the Axis were all fascists/national socialists.
The Soviet Union is another story.
But please don't moral equivalence the Allies and the Axis. They're not comparable. Fascism is an evil ideology which normal people across the Western World have despised and sought to destroy for more than 80 years. Hence why especially Israel will target you
but then you're denying horrible, horrible crimes committed by US, British, Canadian, and the rest of the allies, and they get away because they won? That's not very fair.
Morally, I don't compare the Axis and the Allies, but with criminal activity there are comparable parts of the story.
If a country is fascist, I wouldn't care much unless it involves human rights abuses and whatnot
by Monsone » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:27 am
[4] The glorification of atrocities, crimes against humanity, and other horrible things is not allowed in the OOC and is discouraged in the IC. If you're RP-ing as certain nations, you may want to be as discrete about said topics if you must right about them in the IC And remember, not bloody details.
by Mathuvan Union » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:43 am
Greater Liverpool wrote:Mathuvan Union wrote:but then you're denying horrible, horrible crimes committed by US, British, Canadian, and the rest of the allies, and they get away because they won? That's not very fair.
Morally, I don't compare the Axis and the Allies, but with criminal activity there are comparable parts of the story.
If a country is fascist, I wouldn't care much unless it involves human rights abuses and whatnot
Alright, let's not get into a debate about war crimes during WW2 and who was worse. What I will say is that it is understandable for Israel to target you, if you do start going fascist do remember Math you're playing as West Germany the literally birthplace of the Nazis. While I am not saying the Israel player will be successful but it is not far fetched for him to target it you Math can you understand that.
by Mathuvan Union » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:44 am
Greater Liverpool wrote:Mathuvan Union wrote:but then you're denying horrible, horrible crimes committed by US, British, Canadian, and the rest of the allies, and they get away because they won? That's not very fair.
Morally, I don't compare the Axis and the Allies, but with criminal activity there are comparable parts of the story.
If a country is fascist, I wouldn't care much unless it involves human rights abuses and whatnot
Alright, let's not get into a debate about war crimes during WW2 and who was worse. What I will say is that it is understandable for Israel to target you, if you do start going fascist do remember Math you're playing as West Germany the literally birthplace of the Nazis. While I am not saying the Israel player will be successful but it is not far fetched for him to target it you Math can you understand that.
by Wasi State » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:54 am
by Mathuvan Union » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:01 am
Wasi State wrote:Math, you do realize it is the SS Ordensstaat in the IC that want to reestablish their control in West Germany right? This will not make West Germany turn into a Italian/Franco style fascist state, they literally intend to turn it into a Ultranationalist Spartanist hellhole, surprisingly one of the few things that is arguably worse than National Socialism, because they have taken a page from the Khmer Rouge on top of their Nazism. Meaning no one is going to turn out well from this, and in all likelihood West Germany will likely turn into a failed state if the SS get what they want.
by Wasi State » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:22 am
Mathuvan Union wrote:I will not Be responding to the SS.
West Germany does not deal with terrorists.
by Mathuvan Union » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:24 am
Wasi State wrote:Mathuvan Union wrote:I will not Be responding to the SS.
West Germany does not deal with terrorists.
Then in all likelihood the Kaiser will be executed, unless rescue efforts can still save him in time. Though a lack of response still from West Germany does make his chances a lot worse, and I can't imagine it'll go over well for a large portion of the population.
by Chewion » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:28 am
Mathuvan Union wrote:Wasi State wrote:Then in all likelihood the Kaiser will be executed, unless rescue efforts can still save him in time. Though a lack of response still from West Germany does make his chances a lot worse, and I can't imagine it'll go over well for a large portion of the population.
I don’t know what to do!
by Monsone » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:33 am
by Mathuvan Union » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:40 am
by American Pere Housh » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:55 pm
Mathuvan Union wrote:Monsone wrote:Or just try looking for him. Contact other nations to see what they know, colaborate with foriegn intelliegence agencies to find the Kaiser.
Then again, the Kaiser could be as far away as Argentina or Australia by now.
I’ll get in touch with the CIA KGB and MI6, and the French agency.
The BND will try to covertly search.
by Mathuvan Union » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:48 pm
American Pere Housh wrote:Mathuvan Union wrote:I’ll get in touch with the CIA KGB and MI6, and the French agency.
The BND will try to covertly search.
Math, the reason that Israel hates Fascism and Nazism is because what they did to the Jews. I won't go into details but as along as those SS thugs exist, I will hunt them down. Don't think because they live outside of Israel that they are safe from Mossad. I have to ask why not ask Israel for assistance as we would gladly look for the Kaiser.
by Spiritual Republic of Caryton » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:12 pm
Music of Caryton: [8-29-22] Classic Carytonic Sing-Along Hymns
by Wasi State » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:18 pm
Spiritual Republic of Caryton wrote:China's on fire, Kim Il-Sung is under stress to perpetually repel hordes of anarchists from manchuria, the SS still exists, the Kaiser is being held prisoner, and the Mossad is everywhere.
Global war and nuclear holocaust when?
by Mathuvan Union » Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:27 am
Wasi State wrote:Spiritual Republic of Caryton wrote:China's on fire, Kim Il-Sung is under stress to perpetually repel hordes of anarchists from manchuria, the SS still exists, the Kaiser is being held prisoner, and the Mossad is everywhere.
Global war and nuclear holocaust when?
I mean that is unironically the ultimate goal of the SS to trigger a thermonuclear war across the planet and to annihilate the vast majority of the human race to create a new dawn in the form of a virtual Hell on Earth for countless generations to weed out the weak and 'undesirables' once and for all. After they have considered the planet in its current state to be a lost cause after the Axis' defeat in WWII.
A global, more conventional war is interestingly also the end goal of the War Corporatist faction in the Union of Flanders-Wallonia. Essentially getting tensions high enough that the military industrial complex can essentially take over all facets of society and they can reap the rewards and profits from a perpetual WWIII as long as the nukes don't start flying.
by Monsone » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:01 am
Mathuvan Union wrote:Wasi State wrote:I mean that is unironically the ultimate goal of the SS to trigger a thermonuclear war across the planet and to annihilate the vast majority of the human race to create a new dawn in the form of a virtual Hell on Earth for countless generations to weed out the weak and 'undesirables' once and for all. After they have considered the planet in its current state to be a lost cause after the Axis' defeat in WWII.
A global, more conventional war is interestingly also the end goal of the War Corporatist faction in the Union of Flanders-Wallonia. Essentially getting tensions high enough that the military industrial complex can essentially take over all facets of society and they can reap the rewards and profits from a perpetual WWIII as long as the nukes don't start flying.
they're so annoying, they need to f*ck off.
hope the french smack 'em.
by Mathuvan Union » Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:01 pm
Monsone wrote:Mathuvan Union wrote:they're so annoying, they need to f*ck off.
hope the french smack 'em.
Uhm, I'm not dealing with them. I'm sending troops to allow Flanders-Wallonia to concentrate on the riots and protests. The French troops are going to be stationed on the border of Flanders-Wallonia and Germany.
by Monsone » Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:35 pm
by Mathuvan Union » Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:15 pm
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